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[WP7] Sprout SMS
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15-11-2010 8:44pm#1
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Sprout SMS has gone BETA!!
After a period of intensive testing it will be submitted to the market place!
Artwork is currently being looked at and also some final teaks
Some displayed features did not make the cut as they took away from the current fluidity.
Jolly good! Will be keeping an eye on the marketplace. We need more Irish apps on there!
As for the artwork / graphics, can I suggest a 2d basic metro-style icon rather than a 3d or colour picture of, say, a sprout? Just to keep everything consistent with metro (for example)
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Yay Feeback!
This is the best part!
1. There perhaps should be a recent contacts list (only the last 2 or 3) in the white space underneath the message box?
This is a great idea. I have been trying to work out what to put here. I will check out the feesablity of this over the next few weeks and see if I can add it in without taking away from the ui.
2. If you start typing a message, but then let the phone screen turn off, the incomplete message disappears when you return / unlock
I wasn't aware of this but I think I know how to fix it. Ill work this into the next update as now that I am aware of it, it is annoying.
3. If you write a message and hit the send button without first selecting a contact, then the app seems to go ahead and send the text message anyway... but to who? Quelle mystere! From a usability aspect, hitting the send button without first selecting a contact should bring you straight to the contacts screen, and then automatically send the message once the contact is selected. The contacts button in the main menu should remain as a way of adding one or more contacts, but without the action of sending the message immediately once a contact has been sent
This is currently fixed in the local revision of the code and will be ready for submission on Tuesday. As for the message. Technically it has sent as O2 accepts the message (hence no fail) but after a few days of it pending they refund the spent message. As multiple contacts, it wont be in the next version but it is being worked on. Timing is an issue here as I am not allowed to hog the phones thread too long. Its top priority though.
4. I feel there should be an option somewhere to allow you to manually type in a phone number, without first creating a contact
I actually wanted this to be available day one. The honest answer as to why it hasn't been implemented is I am having trouble working out how the control should look. From a UI perspective if there is an editable text box there it could confuse the users as to where to select for contacts. I have a few mock ups in the works and I should have this feature fully implemented in line with multiple contacts. In the mean time I might look at enabling the textbox for editing in the next release.
All in all fantastic feedback and I am glad you are happy so far. I am working on a maintenance release for Tuesday to fix some of the issues found as well as increase the amount of chars that can be sent (From 160 to 1000). I will be adding this feedback to the issue list on codeplex over the next few days so others are aware of what is being done. Thanks again for your points!
If you find anything else strange or if you notice slowdowns or even have more suggestions I would be delighted if you post them here.
PS: Do you like the logo?
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4. I feel there should be an option somewhere to allow you to manually type in a phone number, without first creating a contact
I actually wanted this to be available day one. The honest answer as to why it hasn't been implemented is I am having trouble working out how the control should look. From a UI perspective if there is an editable text box there it could confuse the users as to where to select for contacts. I have a few mock ups in the works and I should have this feature fully implemented in line with multiple contacts. In the mean time I might look at enabling the textbox for editing in the next release.
Great to hear there are updates on the way. The problem with many many apps on the Marketplace now are that they are just dumped there and never looked at again. No updates, nada.
For the above issue of manually entering a number, because this is something that would use fairly rarely (eg when first trying the app, you want to send a text to yourself to see if it works!) maybe it could be an entry under the app bar (alongside Support and Settings) such as "Enter number manually"?
As for the idea of having recently used contacts in the white space below the text box, perhaps a better approach would be a Recent Contacts button that pops up a short list of the last 5 contacts used? This button wouldn't take up as much space and could perhaps even be located above the text box.PS: Do you like the logo?
I like the logo, but my initial impression was "that reminds me of something", and that was confirmed for me when my wife glanced at the icon on the start screen last night and asked if that was a vagina. Anyone else seeing this or is it just us??0 -
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Also guys if you could take the time to write up a review on the market place, I would be delighted. There seems to be review enimia on the marketplace as a whole so If you could take 2 mins to do this you would be helping the overall standing of the apps there. Cheers 0
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Aside from the button down the end that I need to remove. What do you think of the UI refresh?
New Compose by Dean McDonnell, on Flickr
The To: box is now editible. If you click the button you get contacts. If you click the box you get a blank edit box.0 -
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Aside from the button down the end that I need to remove. What do you think of the UI refresh?
New Compose by Dean McDonnell, on Flickr
The To: box is now editible. If you click the button you get contacts. If you click the box you get a blank edit box.
Looks good. Might there be another button besides the Contacts button for recently used contacts? Could be a little heart icon?
With regards the number of reviews on the Irish WP7 marketplace, there are very few reviews for any app and most seem to be from the same 2 or 3 people. Makes me wonder how many people are actually using WP7 in Ireland so far. Have the "hardcore" or techy group ignored it and are sticking with android instead? Have to say I've found WP7 a fantastic platform so far...0 -
Yeah this has me wondering too. I wont get any anaylitics from MS until late next week . I'm really hoping this platform takes hold. I've kind of bet my career on .Net development. Ah early adoption eh! I am just hoping MS put the fire under this in the same way they did the 360.
Ok the app. Right my honest opinion. I don't like the button there. I have a weird thing about minimalism and it now looks too busy now. I'm going to take it out. I know I forsake an editable textbox but the new design doesn't sit right with me.
In terms of the favourites. There is no problem adding the button but there is a catch... The SDK doesn't allow me to view the names of contacts only the number / email addy. So I can add it but it will just show a list of numbers.
EDIT: maybe I need to stop working on this after a long days work. 0 -
So...
After a few UI iterations, some sleep and a beer I think I have come up with the concept design for sprout that will be available in the next release. Drum roll please...... (Please bear in mind the UI would be much sharper on the phone than this)
NuDesign by Dean McDonnell, on Flickr
What this adds is:
1: An editable textbox
2: Contact chooser in the correct possition
3: 3 Fav contacts (Will change to recent once the api allows it)
4: Theme consistancy.
Honest opinions are always welcome!0 -
So...
After a few UI iterations, some sleep and a beer I think I have come up with the concept design for sprout that will be available in the next release. Drum roll please...... (Please bear in mind the UI would be much sharper on the phone than this)
NuDesign by Dean McDonnell, on Flickr
What this adds is:
1: An editable textbox
2: Contact chooser in the correct possition
3: 3 Fav contacts (Will change to recent once the api allows it)
4: Theme consistancy.
Honest opinions are always welcome!
Honesty: this is quite a departure from the Metro UI; the "bubble" boxes around the contact box and the message box are a big no-no from my point of view, as is the background with the blue gradient...
Essentially, the UI from the current Sprout release, with only the addition of the contacts box at the top and 3 or so configurable fav contacts underneath (no need for the number listing either I'd say) is just perfect!
And as a suggestion, something I've noticed from a couple of other apps that I thought was consistent with metro and visually pleasing was the idea of placing an in-app notification bar at the top of the screen, for example for displaying the status of sending a message in sprout. To see what I mean, try out the "Alien News" reddit app on the marketplace (free trial available). When you logon, you get the status ("logging in", "connected" etc) display in a solid bar along the top with white text (the bar being in the colour of the current theme accent). Seems like this approach might be appropriate for future versions of sprout since the white space under the message text box is going to be used for fav contacts?
Ok sorry for the editorial but I'm all about the metro theme!0 -
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.... Oh and by the way,
I was kidding about the theme
V2 Dark by Dean McDonnell, on Flickr
It's now much more refined, How could I not do metro. Good laugh all the same 0 -
.... Oh and by the way,
I was kidding about the theme
V2 Dark by Dean McDonnell, on Flickr
It's now much more refined, How could I not do metro. Good laugh all the same
Chancer! Yeah that's how it should look!
Good news on the new developments, I didn't realise sprout was self contained in version 1. I was assuming it connected to cabbage servers somewhere. And you're correct, an update to the app everytime O2 change their website (which happens a LOT) would not work. Best to have that stuff processed in the cloud (which is where all the action happens these days.
And I think I mentioned previously, a heart icon for the favourite contacts list would probably be ideal? I've seen metro heart icons in other apps as far as I can recall.
Finally, would love to hear feedback from anybody else on boards, this is a bit two-sided as it is! :rolleyes:
Best of luck with the work on the new updates.0 -
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