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gf kissed another guy

  • 10-11-2010 4:17pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Just found out from my gf of over 2 years that she kissed another guy last night, a friend of hers (and as of now, an ex-friend of mine) she sees regularly.

    I didn't get many details, but she says it was both their faults, that she couldn't defend her actions at all, that the whole thing is a blur, that there was no alcohol involved and she doesn't know why she did it.

    She wasn't overtly apologetic, but did seem very upset and ashamed, and she has told me immediately.

    There's no chance of her having a relationship with this guy and it's all extremely random.

    I feel like crap and am shocked and confused. My mind keeps swinging between "break up with her" and "it was just a kiss".

    My gut instinct is to meet up with her and have a proper conversation about what actually happened, try to get to the bottom of why she did it and then take some space to think about it. We didn't have any major relationship problems prior to this.

    I'm wondering if this is a good idea, and how long should I wait before actually meeting up with her? I was thinking tomorrow, is this too soon?

    Thanks...


Comments

  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Whats with the waiting to meet up with her? There are no rules or games you have to play here. If you want to sort it out, then meet her and sort it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Oryx wrote: »
    Whats with the waiting to meet up with her? There are no rules or games you have to play here. If you want to sort it out, then meet her and sort it out.
    Thanks, that was my instinct, but I had this nagging feeling that I should wait for a few days to let the dust settle/evaluate my feelings/figure out exactly what I wanted to ask/say to her.

    But you know what, you're probably right, the sooner I talk to her the sooner we can begin to rebuild, or part our separate ways...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I think the fact that a) she told you straight away and b) it was just a kiss and not anything sexual and c) drunken behaviour speaks volumes. I would be inclined to give her a second chance - we've all done stupid things while drunk. Heck, I once kissed a gay (male) friend when I was drunk and on holidays, it was stupid and I immediately regretted it and felt awful because I was absolutely 100% madly in love with my boyfriend at the time. I can't explain why it happened - it was just drunkenness.

    If she'd slept with him, it'd be a different story. Or if there had been an inkling that she had feeling for him... or if they'd been flirty. If your relationship is otherwise going well, it'd be sad to throw it away over a pointless kiss.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I'd be on it as soon as. Strike while the iron is hot as it were. try not to lose the rag. Sit her down and ask her for her "reasons". Have you had a rough patch recently? Arguments you reckoned were done and dusted? They may not be from her point of view. Can you come back from this as a couple? IMH yes, if the real reason for why comes out and she's honest about it and is willing to work on the relationship. If not...

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    ....I'm wondering if this is a good idea, and how long should I wait before actually meeting up with her? I was thinking tomorrow, is this too soon?...

    there is no set time to when to meet someone up to discuss things in these situations. Its all up to you.

    My two cents?
    Just be careful. After 2 years kissing someone and that someone being a male friend she always sees? ... red flag for me. Something like this just doesnt happen. There would have to of been flirting leading up to this. And if she is friends with him for any amount of time - bigger red flag.
    Dr Hook's famous song "..when your in love with a beautiful woman, you watch her friends" - very true. But they also left out the bit of "you watch her"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thanks guys.

    One detail I've left out - the guy is a housemate of hers (along with another person)... They wouldn't have really been friends until a little before she moved into the house, and she's only been living there about a month... They were watching a movie together when it happened.

    I can't help but feel that our relationship isn't going to work if she continues to live there...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Don't know how you could trust her after that. Obviously I don't know her but the typical human response would be to give you a watered down version of the actual events.

    Yeah single friends can kiss each other in the heat of the moment but when a two year relationship is at stake it doesn't happen unless there's some feeling there.

    Think of what's ahead, do you really want to have to have to mount a surveillance operation on her interactions with all her male friends?

    Cut her loose before you let your emotions blur the gravity of the incident.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    She wasn't overtly apologetic, but did seem very upset and ashamed, and she has told me immediately.

    OP i think this would be the nail in the coffin for me. If it was just a stupid mistake she'd be begging for your forgiveness, "not being overtly apologetic" is not the action of a woman who regrets what she has done, yes she may be upset and ashamed that she has cheated but it doesn't sound like she's actually sorry the kiss happened.

    Add in the fact that she's been living with this guy for a month and i think its game over OP
    As has been said this has obviously been brewing for a while, you don't just kiss someone you've been living with for a month on a whim.
    I can't help but feel that our relationship isn't going to work if she continues to live there...
    No OP i don't think your relationship can work when she clearly has strong feelings for someone else, i know that sounds harsh, but you deserve better than to be second best.


    As an aside :
    There's no chance of her having a relationship with this guy and it's all extremely random
    Why exactly is there no chance of a relationship with him? Has he got a girlfriend? It may be less random than you think OP, its one thing for one person to cheat, but for both of them to cheat would suggest there are actually stronger feelings between them than you think....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭I am a friend


    Hmmmmm... I would suspect, if you were to let this one go that you would be setting yourself up for trouble down the line. She doesnt know how it happened - come on.... She is not apologising. She lives with him..... Ask her but then will you be able to believe her or him? Is she going to continue to live there and would you be happy with that. I think, given that it is so close to home, it must have been somewhat premediatated...... Dunno but its not good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭greengiant09


    Thanks guys.

    One detail I've left out - the guy is a housemate of hers (along with another person)... They wouldn't have really been friends until a little before she moved into the house, and she's only been living there about a month... They were watching a movie together when it happened.

    I can't help but feel that our relationship isn't going to work if she continues to live there...

    you're dead right there...there's no way on earth you will have any peace of mind while they are living in the same house. the fact that she doesn't seem that remorseful is alarming too. when you weigh it all up, it doesn't look like she's worth a 2nd chance unless she's willing to do some serious grovelling and move out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭trebor28


    girlgirl1 wrote: »
    I think the fact that a) she told you straight away and b) it was just a kiss and not anything sexual and c) drunken behaviour speaks volumes. I would be inclined to give her a second chance - we've all done stupid things while drunk. Heck, I once kissed a gay (male) friend when I was drunk and on holidays, it was stupid and I immediately regretted it and felt awful because I was absolutely 100% madly in love with my boyfriend at the time. I can't explain why it happened - it was just drunkenness.

    If she'd slept with him, it'd be a different story. Or if there had been an inkling that she had feeling for him... or if they'd been flirty. If your relationship is otherwise going well, it'd be sad to throw it away over a pointless kiss.

    the op said there was no drink involved so your argument is nul and void.


    op,
    as others have said, and you said yourself, she wasnt over apologetic.
    she also said it was both their faults, how was it his fault as such??
    does he have a girlfriend? he didnt cheat on you.
    she hadnt drink taken so she was 100% sober, it was all her fault.

    what i would say to you to do is to break it off with her.
    that was you'll find out for certain how sorry she is and if she really wants you she will be eager to get back together with you.

    as it stands you havent had it out with her face to face so she has had a lot of time to go over things in her head.
    i would be worried about this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭S23


    Some good advice in here so I won't rehash most of it.

    What struck me was

    a) she wasn't overly apologetic
    and
    b) it happed within a month of her starting to share a house with this lad

    So it didn't take long for this 'accident' to happen and she wasn't that apologetic about it.

    How you're meant to trust her is hard enough to start with but the fact they will continue to live together means you'll be driven to distraction most of the time. It's only human too.

    You need to have a serious and to the point discussion with her a.s.a.p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭THEZAPPA


    trebor28 wrote: »
    the op said there was no drink involved so your argument is nul and void.


    op,
    as others have said, and you said yourself, she wasnt over apologetic.
    she also said it was both their faults, how was it his fault as such??
    does he have a girlfriend? he didnt cheat on you.
    she hadnt drink taken so she was 100% sober, it was all her fault.

    what i would say to you to do is to break it off with her.
    that was you'll find out for certain how sorry she is and if she really wants you she will be eager to get back together with you.

    as it stands you havent had it out with her face to face so she has had a lot of time to go over things in her head.
    i would be worried about this.


    I agree with this. No drink was involved so she was completely aware of her actions and same with him. Meaning there is no excuse for it.

    Obviously there is attraction between them op and if I was you I would talk to her soon but take time to think about whether you want to continue the relationship and feel comfortable and trust her. Just because she may move out may not mean they will stop talking etc.

    Be wary op.

    Hope all works out for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭Darlughda


    Unfortunately, so many people are gutless swines when it comes to breaking up. OH GOSH, I snogged my housemate sober. What does this mean, I wonder??

    Cue, your goodself having to force the issue...is she wanting to break up??

    Sneaky, snakey behaviour forcing your hand. Sorry OP, she is wanting out of your relationship together and she doesnt have the guts and balls to be honest and direct about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Why exactly is there no chance of a relationship with him? Has he got a girlfriend? It may be less random than you think OP, its one thing for one person to cheat, but for both of them to cheat would suggest there are actually stronger feelings between them than you think....
    Well the thing is, he's very likely gay... I know he's had a gf in the past, but he frequently kisses and goes home with guys on nights out these days...

    I appreciate the sentiment in here. But I think my "wasn't overtly apologetic" has been given a little too much focus. She did seem deeply regretful and was kind of lost for words...

    I'm meeting with her tomorrow, I am willing to give her a second chance given that she assures me that she does still want to be with me, explains exactly what happened, explains to me the reasons why she did it, and is willing to move out.

    I will not be a doormat, but I'm not willing to throw 2 years away without serious consideration.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Tell her you forgive her, but that she has to move out if she wants to salvage the relationship, if she does, she will.

    Then wait for her to househunt, pay deposits, move her stuff, get settled in..

    Then dump her cheating ass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    krudler Mature adults don't play games like that. If you have nothing constructive to add, then please don't post

    dudara


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm wondering if this is a good idea, and how long should I wait before actually meeting up with her? I was thinking tomorrow, is this too soon?

    I would say as long as it takes for you to feel you can discuss it with her without getting overly emotional. If you think you are going to get upset or start shouting or crying then it is too soon. If you think you can discuss it with her calmly then the time is right.

    Obviously this is not easy, you might think you are ready and then it turns out you are not, but all you can do is your best.

    It is important to do your best though as getting overly emotional can make things worse than they are. Or they can make it so that the answers she gives you are not the truth but whatever she thinks you want to hear to make it better. The calmer and more understanding you are, the better the chance she will be both open and honest.

    After getting her answers the best you can do is go away and make a decision for yourself. Do not do it with her as being with her can influence you. You need to consider her answers, consider how you feel about them and make the best decision you can on what to do next. Then you return to her with this thinking done and work on this together as a couple.

    It may help to return here for that part and let us know what was said and how you feel about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I broke up with her.

    As bad as what she did was, she was honest about the fact that she couldn't assure me it wouldn't happen again.

    There are other things at play here. I'm moving away for a job abroad next year and she was freaked out by the prospect.

    I forgave her, but we couldn't stay together.

    Don't feel as bad as I thought I was. I feel almost relieved that the ordeal of having the talk with her is over and that I can get on with my life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    At least you dont feel as bad as you thought op :)

    But there is still a lesson to be learned here. Mainly with you going away. I've seen it happen to others, i've even experienced it myself... when one party is moving away one parter usually steps out of the relationship and from what ive seen... cheats.
    Which is totally wrong. Because rather than end things when they feel "this is coming to an end" to perhaps maintain a friendship, they'll continue dating and do the dirt.


    Good riddance op. Thats all I can say. Remember she could of discussed this before cheating. She was just thinking about herself. You did the right thing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    At least you dont feel as bad as you thought op :)
    I spoke too soon. It comes in waves. Right now I feel like absolute crap and incredibly lonely...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭Zeouterlimits


    I spoke too soon. It comes in waves. Right now I feel like absolute crap and incredibly lonely...
    It was a 2 year relationship. You're going to hurt, even more so considering the circumstances it's only natural.
    Just have to distract yourself as best you can, with friends and new hobbies.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yeah it is a bad idea to expect to feel unmoved and "ok" after this. You will be hurt by it. Even those who get out of the worst relationships imaginable will feel hurt by it. It is letting go of something that at one time you really wanted to see work. In essence it is a failed project, and failed projects always hurt.

    Moving on is the best thing to do and if you are sure this was the right choice for you then never lose sight of the reasons you made that choice, no matter what other emotions will inevitably come to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Here's the thing, right now I don't think it was the right choice any more...

    We were so happy right up until this.

    I didn't talk to her properly about my potential job abroad. The interviews etc. all happened so fast, and she didn't tell me about her feelings in relation to it because she didn't want to worry me during the interviews.

    Right now all I want to do is call her and ask her if we rushed this decision to break up...

    I'm pretty emotional right now though, I guess I'll give it a couple of days before I contact her.

    (I know you're all going to hammer me for even thinking this way, but I can't help it...)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well I still stand by my advice in my first post above, in that you should wait until you are thinking at least mostly with your head and not your heart.

    If you think you are acting on emotion it is too soon. You need to work out with your head and your heart what it is you actually want and then go from there to decide if this is the partner you can have it with. If she is not the right one for you and your expectations of what a relationship will mean to you, then you have your answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭S23


    No one is going to hammer you for thinking what you are thinking OP. It's the easiest thing in the world for us to be practical because we are detached from the situation but you are obviously going to be emotional about this because you are directly involved.

    All I will say to you is this. She still wasn't apologetic when it happend. She still didn't take very long to make this 'mistake' once she'd moved in with this lad. And the final nail in the coffin/exclamation mark that it was time to move on was that she actually said she couldn't promise you it wouldn't happen again.

    I'm sorry but she actually told you she couldn't promise you she wouldn't cheat on you again. That's all you need to know.

    As for your issues (real or imagined with your OH) about moving abroad. If she really cared and wanted to talk about them or address them she would have spoken to you or approached them in another way. Cheating on someone is not a way of showing how much you care about them and are going to miss them if they leave.

    You've done the hard part here OP. Of course your emotions are raw but you just need to hang in there. As it is it really seems like you're starting to make excuses for this girl. She's told you she can't promise to be faithful.

    So you ring her up, give her the excuse of moving away being part of this and then get back together. You'll get the instant gratification of the familiarity being back. But what happens when she cheats on you again like shes suggested she probably will? How good is that going to feel for you? You need to stick to your guns here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cojomo2


    I broke up with her.

    As bad as what she did was, she was honest about the fact that she couldn't assure me it wouldn't happen again.

    There are other things at play here. I'm moving away for a job abroad next year and she was freaked out by the prospect.

    I forgave her, but we couldn't stay together.

    Don't feel as bad as I thought I was. I feel almost relieved that the ordeal of having the talk with her is over and that I can get on with my life.

    As another poser already mentioned, this is the deciding factor..this may not be nice to hear, but the fact she told you that she can't promise you she won't cheat again says to me that she actually wanted you to end it, because she didn't have the guts to..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Thanks guys.

    One detail I've left out - the guy is a housemate of hers (along with another person)... They wouldn't have really been friends until a little before she moved into the house, and she's only been living there about a month... They were watching a movie together when it happened.

    I can't help but feel that our relationship isn't going to work if she continues to live there...

    Whoa whoa whoa.

    That is a huge detail to leave out dude.

    Personally, I'd get rid. You deserve better and I know myself I'd never have peace of mind especially if she lives with the chap.

    It's not worth racking your brains about mate. Seriously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭Hayzooz


    Darlughda wrote: »
    Sorry OP, she is wanting out of your relationship together and she doesnt have the guts and balls to be honest and direct about it.

    Absolutely spot-on.

    You did the right thing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    We expect more civility then that on this forum Hayzooz,
    I suggest you read the charter before you post again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thanks guys.

    One detail I've left out - the guy is a housemate of hers (along with another person)... They wouldn't have really been friends until a little before she moved into the house, and she's only been living there about a month... They were watching a movie together when it happened.

    I can't help but feel that our relationship isn't going to work if she continues to live there...

    And therein lies your problem and her problem. Its over buddy unless she moves out. It she doesn't, then the next time will be more than a kiss and you'll be getting the P45.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Jaxxy


    I'm sorry to hear your relationship ended OP, and of the circumstances surrounding it. What a horrible thing to have to go through.

    I did notice one thing though in your original post and in a follow up post you made on page two.

    Her telling you that she couldn't guarantee this wouldn't happen again is a serious blow, and I don't blame you for finishing things with her. But one thing struck me, and that was your later admission that you might possibly be moving abroad for a job, and that you hadn't really discussed this with her.

    Had it occurred to you that the prospect of you moving away might have made her feel insecure? Had you discussed the implications that a move abroad might have on your relationship? Had you plans to continue seeing her, long distance? Was she happy with this possible new arrangement?

    I'm not excusing her behaviour, not at all, and if things are to work out between you two then she absolutely has to move out and give you a guarantee that this won't happen again. As I said, it doesn't excuse her behaviour, but I can certainly understand why she might have acted in this manner given the new circumstances.

    Best of luck to you and I hope things work out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    OP, breaking up with someone with these circumstances is hard. Believe me mate I've been there but there's no point in kicking yourself around the place about it.

    You did nothing wrong. Even though it was you that ended things it was actually really her that ended the relationship.

    The first few days are tough but this is the time when friends are very very important. Make sure you've got a good circle of friends around you, go out on the lash, talk to new people. Don't sit around and mope about her because let's be honest, she won't be.

    I know that sounds incredibly harsh but when my ex cheated on me I had to think this way. Tough love if you will.

    My first and foremost piece of advice I'd give you though is to cut ALL contact. Facebook, email, phone number. Everything has to go. First step of getting over.

    Trust me mate, it gets better. Might not seem like it now but in the long run when you look back on this you'll realise that you deserved an awful lot better and shouldn't have to put up with that sort of crap.

    Chin up mate. You'll be alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,193 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    I broke up with her.

    As bad as what she did was, she was honest about the fact that she couldn't assure me it wouldn't happen again.

    There are other things at play here. I'm moving away for a job abroad next year and she was freaked out by the prospect.

    I forgave her, but we couldn't stay together.

    Don't feel as bad as I thought I was. I feel almost relieved that the ordeal of having the talk with her is over and that I can get on with my life.

    Good for you. At the moment I'm with a girl that I love, I turned down a job in another country for more money to stay with her. The relationship is steadily declining and she's no where as affectionate as she use to be. Think I could be going down the same route you're on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    lol, she lied to my face. She fúcked him the very next day after kissing him, and she didn't tell me. Had to find this out from another housemate of hers.

    They're now apparently going out. Facebook statuses changed and everything...

    If I can avoid ever speaking to her again, I will. Although part of me does want to get a last word in...

    Don't think I've ever felt so shít.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Scrambled egg


    Christ OP thats awful. My heart goes out to you.

    But whats done is done now, you now know for definite that you made the right choice. Nobody needs somebody like that in their life. Keep your head together as best you can because its not the end of the world buddy, it may seem that way but you will realize in no time how big a mistake she was. So get out there , live your life and don't look back .

    I do believe a great song for the moment would be cee lo green - **** you :)
    Anyways , good luck pal , your gonna get through this :)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    An unfortunate ending but at least now you know, and at least it happened now and not much later in your relationship when you had invested much much more in her.

    There is no “last word” to get in here. Lead by your example and not your words. Chin up, move on and remember this experience can only make you stronger. Enough misery has been caused here for one day, but you are pure in that you caused none of it. If you lash out now you will no longer be blameless in the spreading of suffering.

    She has chosen her path, let her stick to it, and if it does not work out with that guy and she comes crawling back simply tell her you have no interest in being with a person who can do to someone what she did to you and live with her conscience.

    Take your pain into the next relationship by promising yourself you will never do to another what has been done to you here and the next girl to get her hands on you will be a luckier girl for it and the world that bit better of a place for having such a promise in it.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    An unfortunate ending but at least now you know, and at least it happened now and not much later in your relationship when you had invested much much more in her.
    This in a big way. Really sorry to hear it panned out like this for you. Though in a way this may be easier for you to move on from. If it had just petered out and she had drifted away then you may have been left with more questions and longing. At least this shock, though harder to take shoule make the moving on easier. Relationships fail every day for all sorts of reasons, but no one who claims to like or respect you, never mind love you would be so callous. You hear the "bullet dodged" line a lot, but in this case I'd consider it right on the money. Yer man has defo not pulled a winner here.
    She has chosen her path, let her stick to it, and if it does not work out with that guy and she comes crawling back simply tell her you have no interest in being with a person who can do to someone what she did to you and live with her conscience.
    +1. This can happen commonly enough and can be tempting, but don't fall for it. 9 times outa 10 it's got noting to do with love for you, it's to do with the replacement partner not working out.
    There is no “last word” to get in here. Lead by your example and not your words. Chin up, move on and remember this experience can only make you stronger. Enough misery has been caused here for one day, but you are pure in that you caused none of it. If you lash out now you will no longer be blameless in the spreading of suffering.
    Agreed. IMHO Closure is for doors. You got all the closure you needed when she copped off with another bloke(who it seems was also your mate of sorts).

    I would add this though; relationships end all the time for all sorts of reasons, but like I said in my first post, look back on the last few months of the relationship. Try to see where you may have played a part in it's downfall. I am NOT giving her any sort of get out clause. She acted in a very shabby way and no mistake. What I'm saying is in relationships it's never 100% just on one side. It may only be 1% to her 99% but try and look at that 1%. You can do nothing for her actions or how she lives your life, but you can learn something positive about yourself for future reference. Examples? If you had arguments did you try and sort the actual problem or did you just try to stop the argument kinda thing?

    I've been shafted pretty badly myself once or twice in the past. In circumstances not a million miles away from your current experience and by christ it hurt, but I did learn a lot about myself going through the process. I learned where I had failings and where I didn't put enough in. In each case though, I also thanked my lucky stars they were no longer in my life and so will you.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    I'm sorry to hear that op.
    Stuff like this changes us when it happens. For what its worth I've been there too. At the start of this year.

    We learn from our mistakes and sadly "kissing someone" is often sex. Even within revealing things can still be half-truths. This is what we deal with in our lives. Your not the first guy to have his girlfriend reveal she "kissed" another bloke but in reality she slept with him. Most guys dont find out, or are too stupid to cop on.

    Op, you are going to become alot more hard dealing with people and more wide to things too after this. Dont just chalk it up to just being her. This is an example of what people can do in life. And thats why we have to be on our toes. Even when we are meant to be in a "trusting relationship" ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,423 ✭✭✭tinkerbell


    OP, I'm so sorry to hear of the latest update :( That's really awful :( At least you know the truth now, and to be honest you're better off without her.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    Op, you are going to become alot more hard dealing with people and more wide to things too after this. Dont just chalk it up to just being her. This is an example of what people can do in life. And thats why we have to be on our toes. Even when we are meant to be in a "trusting relationship" ...
    OP while I see where LG is coming from, but please try not to get too much into this way of thinking. It's very understandable to do so after a kick in the stones like this. It can even be a comfort in a weird way. The "all chix are disloyal bitches/all men are pigs" is strangely comforting and LG is right there are a lot of examples you will come across out there. As a guy I've been out with a fair few thundering wagons who entirely thought of themselves. Then again I've been out with more women who were anything but that regardless how the relationship fizzled out. Yes its good not to be a complete sap, but get the balance right. Don't go from one extreme to the other just because of one shabby act. It will do you no good in the long term if you're "on your toes" in this manner. Trust me on this one.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭S23


    What a class act she is. I know Thedayal said we're expected to be civil towards her but it's hard to be when she carries on the way she did!

    What an absolutely terrible way to treat you. She sold the 2 years you had together down the river within a month of moving in with this lad and she hadn't the fu*king guts to be straight with you about it. What a totally gutless, callow individual she is.

    Just don't speak to her again. Forget about the last word. Forget about her as quickly as you can. Forget about him too.

    You're going to feel terrible for a while but you're better off out of it. And, as was said before, if she ends up trying to get back with you or even back in touch with you tell her you want nothing to do with her again.


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    sorry to hear about it OP,

    look at it this way. do you really think that relationship can have much trust in it? they deserve each other

    the best revenge here is your own happiness. by getting the last word in you are only showing her how much she has hurt you. dont give her that pleasure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    OP, it's understandable to be feeling sh*t. Trust me mate, I've been there and done that and was in the exact same position as you.

    As tempting as it is to go off on one, don't give her the satisfaction. You were right to dump her. I know you've come off the worse here but you can really learn from this.

    I know people who have gotten their "revenge" on their ex by going out with somebody for a little while and cheating on some poor girl which is a crap way of doing things, so don't lower yourself to that standard.

    As I said earlier on in the thread, it's important now to have a good group of friends around you. Go out and chat to new people. But do yourself a favour and delete her number because you don't want to be drunk and text her or ring her. Nothing good can come of it. Keep your dignity.

    It's an unfortunate learning curve. Only about a year and a half out of my relationship with my cheating ex did I overcome my trust issues when it came to girls.

    It's understandable to be upset and to try and get closure but you know the answer to that already. Nothing good can come from confronting her over what was a cowardly thing to do.

    Again, I'm sorry to hear this OP and it gets easier in time. Ok, it took me a long time but that was just me though.

    My biggest piece of advice though, which I regret doing for so long is to not allow yourself to get into the mindset that "all women are bitches", because they're not and it's not a healthy way of thinking either.

    The instantaneous reaction would be to think this. Ok, it might make you feel a bit better but please don't think that way. I found it very difficult to get out of that way of thinking for an awfully long time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭brendansmith


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    Op, you are going to become alot more hard dealing with people and more wide to things too after this. Dont just chalk it up to just being her. This is an example of what people can do in life. And thats why we have to be on our toes. Even when we are meant to be in a "trusting relationship" ...


    I agree, it really knocks the naivity out of you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 all4nothingxx


    op im so sorry to hear about your situation.. You seem like such a nice guy and way to good for her.. i can relate to wat ur going through. I was in a relationship for 4 and half years and it ended similar to your situation with him cheating on me.. I got the it was only a kiss and dont know wat came over me to speech but just like u i found out der was more going on.
    It really is the worst thing to go through and i really do feel for you.. I have no doubt u will find someone who deserves you and respects you.. Maybe that new job abroad is the start of something new and better for you!! :D

    Chin up :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 KahunaBurger87


    Dude I found my gf of 3 years ****ing my best friend a week ago, you can get over this.


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