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Who is your teams most underrated player?

  • 10-11-2010 3:53pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭


    You know, the player most fans probably wouldn't know their name but true fans of your team recognize their worth.
    Maybe it's a punter even or special team star even?

    Team: Ravens

    Player: Jarrett Johnson

    I was going to say Todd Heap but realy, he is well known so doesn't realy fit

    Double J is our most underrated player. Truth be told, not having a great season and nursing a shouder injury.
    Very adaptable, plays OLB, has played DE and when the great Ray Lewis retires he may play MLB.
    A great tackler and has 16 sacks in his career.

    What about you?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    when i saw the thread title i was going to say Johnson. Also Koch


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Yeah, I could have said Sam Koch too

    Punt, throw, run, tackle.
    What a punter!

    Why he throws the ball better then Tebow :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭ReacherCreature


    Team: New England Patriots.

    Player: Kevin Faulk.

    The man is criminally underrated. Maybe he's been gaining recognition over the last couple of years but overall he's never spoken about. Run, catch, block, can do it all and on a consistent basis. Such a good workhorse. The Patriots have missed him dearly this season IMO. Always such a good player. Forget your Petersons, Johnsons, Jones-Drews, I'd love to have Faulk on any team!

    Honourable mention: DE Mike Wright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,428 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Team: New England Patriots

    Player: Jerod Mayo, he won the DROY a couple of years back but even after that people didn't rate him hugely for some reason. He gets the respect from New England fans but for a lot of them it seems to be a kind of oh yeah he is great when you remind them about him after they've named five or six players who they think are great and omitted him for some reason.

    Imo he doesn't get nearly enough respect outside of New England either. He has been fantastic this season and the numbers are there to prove it. I just don't get why they are not talking about him for DPOY. I think it proves just how underrated and overlooked he is.

    Up to this year I'd have said Matt Light but he has not been as good this year. I think he is nearing the end of his career.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    DJ Williams, he's got 72 tackles and 4 sacks this year as an MLB already and not a peep about him cause the rest of our D is injury hit/lousy and there are a lot of high quality MLBs in the league

    Also, Kevin Vickerson and Robert Ayers are very effective players on our D, we are noticeably better against the run when one or both of em plays.... both sat out the SF and Oak games and we got ran over... Vickerson played against the Jets and we shut their run game down more or less, both were injured @ Baltimore and Rice killed us, and both played @ TEN when we shut Chris Johnson down...no coincidence


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭kev_s88


    Montell Owens for the Jags. FB who plays every special teams play. the dude is a beast! and hes always got a good trick play up his sleeve for fake punts too ;)

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80b35466/Montell-Owens-Highlight-WK-04-vs-Texans-2008


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Chargers - I have quite a few to select from but I'm going to plump for Antonio Garay our new NT. The guy was drafted in 2003 (by the Browns) but didn't even play 04 and 05. This is the first time he has seen some extended playing time and he has (believe it or not) made us forget all about Jamal Williams who took the money and legged it to Denver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Chargers too and would have to probably say Garay. Playing great stuff this year. Also note for Philips and Siler.

    On ReacherCreature post Faulk is class. So underrated, but highly rated in that organisation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 261 ✭✭TheHeadhunter


    Raiders

    Tyvon Branch Safety #33

    This guy is a beast and a playmaker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,428 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Raiders

    Tyvon Branch Safety #33

    This guy is a beast and a playmaker.
    Welcome back man.:)

    I remember in the 2008 draft and I really wanted Branch as a Patriot. He had all the good qualities that you want in a guy and he was so fast too. I remember telling Chucky at the time that the Raiders had gotten real value picking him up in the 4th round.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭neilster


    have to say for Cowboys this season you awould have to say Kitna

    clutch performer and might get a a QB1 gig next season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭jdivision


    Stefan Logan - Detroit Lions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    Jaquai Parker - Eagles.

    Absolutly immense the difference he makes when on the field.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭bobby wade


    Theresa few but ya gotta give some props to Patrick Mannelly. Rarest of rares that you see him make a mistake


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭Spongey1975


    bobby wade wrote: »
    Theresa few but ya gotta give some props to Patrick Mannelly. Rarest of rares that you see him make a mistake

    The values of a long snapper is rarely considered until you are in the final seconds of a game with an extra point kick to take the game into overtime. Enter Nick Sundberg of the Redskins.


    In fairness the holder should have still got it. Think he got released during the week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,328 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    For the Saints Lance Moore is criminally underrated. Such a vital cog in the offence and leads the team in targets in the red zone. I honestly think he's in the top 20 in the league but hardly ever gets mentioned

    Courtney Roby is also underrted as a kick returner (and general special teams play). Nice to see the Superdome chant for him when down injured last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭Prefab Sprouter


    Raiders

    Tyvon Branch Safety #33

    This guy is a beast and a playmaker.
    I would concur with this. Lamarr Houston would be a close second, guy is turning into a solid player!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭The Munky


    I know he is not under-rated per say but he is a rookie at an integral position and that would be the Steeler rookie center Pouncey.

    He drives hard all day and is another in a long line of HOF centers in Pittsburgh :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭ReacherCreature


    jdivision wrote: »
    Stefan Logan - Detroit Lions

    Criminal move when the Steelers released him. Dangerous returner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,308 ✭✭✭Pyjamarama


    Some ridic comments in this thread lads...

    Lance Moore in the top 20 Wr's? He's a good player but nowhere near that, I wouldn't even say it's a given that he's the second best on his team... he also sees a lot less targets when Bush is in the team.

    Mayo is a superb player but DPOY??? Are you joking... not playing in the same league as guys like Peppers, Woodley and Matthews this season.

    I'd echo the selection of Parker for the eagles, with an honourable mention to Winston Justice who has gone from a laughing stock (due to shocking in game management by Reid) to being probably our most solid performer on the o-line this year (not saying too much tho tbh...).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭FreeOSCAR


    Jets

    Brad Smith.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,328 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Pyjamarama wrote: »

    Lance Moore in the top 20 Wr's? He's a good player but nowhere near that, I wouldn't even say it's a given that he's the second best on his team... he also sees a lot less targets when Bush is in the team.
    See I disagree, hence why i think he's underrated. If everyone thought the same he wouldn't be underrated...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    You really think Lance Moore is a top 20 WR?

    I could name 20, even 30 wide receivers that are better than him off the top of my head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭davetherave


    Zach Bowman
    Israel Idonijie, being on a D-Line with the likes of Harris and Peppers he often gets over looked. He has 41 tackles and 7 sacks to his name.

    Pat Mannelly, like said above, or equally Brad Maynard. In his tenth season season with Chicago, 13th overall. Only 5 blocked/muffed punts and 52,000 yards to his name. Highest from actives and third overall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭bobby wade


    Izzies a good shout-out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,328 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Tom_Brady wrote: »
    You really think Lance Moore is a top 20 WR?

    Yes.

    We differ on our opinin, no big deal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,468 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Bears starting nickelback DJ Moore is another underrated player on the team. 5 INT's, 1 returned for a TD and a sack. He's made some mistakes but he's made a lot of big plays when on the field also.

    His interviews are always fun too.

    Reporter: ''What do you admire most about Tom Brady?''

    DJ: ''His taste in women, definitely.''


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭bobby wade


    Moore has had a very good season


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    I'm sure he has had a good season, but is he really a better WR than the following:

    Brandon Marshall
    Wes Welker
    Deion Branch
    Santonio Holmes
    Anquan Boldin
    Chad Ochocinco
    Terrel Owens
    Mike Wallace
    Hines Ward
    Andre Johnson
    Reggie Wayne
    Kenny Britt
    Brandon Lloyd
    Dwayne Bowe
    Vincent Jackson
    Miles Austin
    Hakeem Nicks
    Steve Smith (NYG)
    Steve Smith (CAR)
    DeSean Jackson
    Jeremy Maclin
    Greg Jennings
    Calvin Johnson
    Sidney Rice
    Percy Harvin
    Roddy White
    Marques Colston
    Larry Fitzgerald
    Randy Moss
    Michael Crabtree

    I think not.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭neilster


    Tom_Brady wrote: »
    I'm sure he has had a good season, but is he really a better WR than the following:

    Brandon Marshall
    Wes Welker
    Deion Branch
    Santonio Holmes
    Anquan Boldin
    Chad Ochocinco
    Terrel Owens
    Mike Wallace
    Hines Ward
    Andre Johnson
    Reggie Wayne
    Kenny Britt
    Brandon Lloyd
    Dwayne Bowe
    Vincent Jackson
    Miles Austin
    Hakeem Nicks
    Steve Smith (NYG)
    Steve Smith (CAR)
    DeSean Jackson
    Jeremy Maclin
    Greg Jennings
    Calvin Johnson
    Sidney Rice
    Percy Harvin
    Roddy White
    Marques Colston
    Larry Fitzgerald
    Randy Moss
    Michael Crabtree

    I think not.

    Oh Tom on Lance Moore you are totally right but you are the Hooded Wise One of posters (Bellichek) as you have to ram the argument down his neck

    also some of these guys performed well in 2009 but this year?

    Randy Moss - nearly more teams than TDs
    Crabtree - suffered from Quarterback travails
    Steve Smith (Carolina) - bad year , QB again
    Miles Austin - disappointing season (800 yrd tho)
    OchoCinco - very disappointing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭bobby wade


    Brandon Lloyd had a good year but he'll most likely go back to type next season


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    neilster wrote: »
    Oh Tom on Lance Moore you are totally right but you are the Hooded Wise One of posters (Bellichek) as you have to ram the argument down his neck

    also some of these guys performed well in 2009 but this year?

    Randy Moss - nearly more teams than TDs
    Crabtree - suffered from Quarterback travails
    Steve Smith (Carolina) - bad year , QB again
    Miles Austin - disappointing season (800 yrd tho)
    OchoCinco - very disappointing

    Well I don't doubt Austin, Crabtree or Smith - they're all very talented receivers and miles ahead of Lance Moore. Ocho is too, although he'd be even better if he focused on football rather than his own celebrity. As for Moss, I believe his best days are well and truly behind him but I'd still choose him ahead of Lance Moore.


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