Arthur Morgan will not contest next election.

moonshadow

The Sinn Féin TD for Louth, Arthur Morgan, has announced that he will not be seeking re-election at the next general election.

Deputy Morgan said last night he was stepping out of politics because he had left a family business to run for the Dáil, and now wanted to go back into business.

First elected to the Dáil in 2002 Deputy Morgan retained his seat in the 2007 general election.

He is currently Sinn Féin's Spokesperson on Finance, Enterprise and Trade.



Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/sfs-morgan-to-bow-out-of-politics-481187.html#ixzz14sfX8AQy

calex71

Going back to fishing eh? No loss.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

I think his reasons are a bit fishy (pun not intended). That said, I'll be glad to see the back of him. He muscled in on everything and took the limelight any chance he got- even if not deserved.

No loss indeed.

Judgement Day

Will Ye No Come Back Again to the Nature & Bird Watching Forum?

10green bottles

Reuben Bitter Repression wrote: »

I think his reasons are a bit fishy (pun not intended). That said, I'll be glad to see the back of him. He muscled in on everything and took the limelight any chance he got- even if not deserved.

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Where/when or how did he muscle in,and on what?

In a poorly represented constituency he is well above his peers.
I for one dont want my local TD to be so fecked up in goverment rhetoric that he avoids any conact with the people that elected him, or one that sits back on his Ceann Choraile positiion so much that he is off he radar in Louth and will prob never have to face the electorate in Louth ever again.

Morgan is a voice,he"s for the common person, and whoever takes over from him has a very high mark to reach to match his abilities.

bigneacy

FROM AH THIS MORNING

realies wrote:

Sinn Féin President, Gerry Adams, is expected to announce today that he wants to be the party's candidate in the Louth constituency for the next General Election.

Mr Adams is expected to confirm his plans at a republican commemoration event in Co Louth this afternoon.

During the week Sinn Féin's sitting TD in the Louth constituency, 56-year-old Arthur Morgan, announced that he would be stepping down at the next election to concentrate on his family business.
62-year-old Mr Adams, Sinn Féin's best-known figure, is a member of Northern Ireland's Assembly and an MP at Westminster where Sinn Féin has an abstentionist policy.
Securing the party nomination in Louth is expected be a formality.
Once that is done Mr Adams is likely to resign his West Belfast Assembly seat to concentrate on the Louth contest in the next Dáil election.
The constituency's other TDs are Seamus Kirk and Dermot Ahern of Fianna Fail and Fine Gael's Fergus O Dowd.
In the last two elections Mr Morgan got the fourth and final seat with around 15% of the first preference vote

What do you think his chances are of holding that seat for sinn fein,and will it make any difference to them in there support down here.

What do ye think of that?

Mr Magnolia

I hope whoever takes his seat has a better Dail attendance. Figures published earlier this year showed he'd attended only around 33% of the sittings, one of the poorest showings in the country.

geespot

to busy doing real work than to be sitting in the dail scratching his ar5e real put in an effort and is probably resigning because they closed hospital

Mr Magnolia

If his vote and his presence in the Dail was a waste of his time what was the point in running?

silkworm53

Will Gerry get red paint thrown over him?

Mr Magnolia

silkworm53, I've already deleted one of your posts in this thread. Either contribute in a sensible fashion or don't post at all.

Wolfe Tone

I think Gerry could be an excellent TD. Bar any damning revelations he will get my vote.

shindig-jp

Donegal will be taken by Sinn Fein for obvious reasons , Morgan did not have the clout in Louth ..so it was General Gerry who sent him on a sabbatical , jumping into Morgans place and using a pincer movement to try capture another county in his bid to redraw the Ulster Border .

The Battle of the Boyne is on again , A Labour candidate must be found to take Dundalk as there is no voice for business in the town itself , Drogheda stand firm and get an Independent on the side of Labour to clobber any Fin-gals in Co Dublin . The rest of you award yourselves a medal if you can get tickets to the P.Ks Frontline on Mondays

Wolfe Tone

shindig-jp wrote: »

Donegal will be taken by Sinn Fein for obvious reasons , Morgan did not have the clout in Louth ..so it was General Gerry who sent him on a sabbatical , jumping into Morgans place and using a pincer movement to try capture another county in his bid to redraw the Ulster Border .

I have no idea what you are on about here. Morgans seat was very secure, he drew a huge number of transfers, and he could have expected to make significant gains. Morgan intends to take a step back and focus on his family business. No one would begrudge him doing that, after all he spent the guts of a decade as a political prisoner, taking part in the various protests. However, he is simply stepping down as a TD, he is not retiring, or even leaving SF, he will still be very much active. So, you are wrong, he very much "did have the clout" in fact it is very telling that the only man who could replace him was Gerry Adams.

shindig-jp

Okay then ,,,,, I'll change my opinion to a light hearted view of Morgans stepping down and his replacement .

TommyT

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

I think Gerry could be an excellent TD. Bar any damning revelations he will get my vote.

10green bottles

TommyT wrote: »

Aww the little people have started early!!

Get Gerry the poll topper before he takes Dermy down,the wee man from the rock that voted in hospital closures and the bank bail out.

And the annonomymous man from Knockbridge, An Ceann Choraile ,who participated with him in voting for every policy that will leave us all poor,you poor and your children and your childrens children poor.

And the Fine Gael man from the South county who said F*** all and only re-acted when the stable door was firmly shut.

I for one will welcome Gerrys input, because the ones with the big grand policies sold this country to banks and they cant even look themselves in the eye to say hello these days!:mad:

TommyT

10green bottles wrote: »

I for one will welcome Gerrys input, because the ones with the big grand policies sold this country to banks and they cant even look themselves in the eye to say hello these days!:mad:

FFS Gerry cant admit that he was ever in the IRA.

Wolfe Tone

Hmm, the posters might actually be funny if the photo-shopping was not so poor and more imagination was used. As it is they are simply petty...

indiewindy

take a look at the cover of the agus this week;)

geespot

voting for gerry gives the people of louth the chance to look at the bigger picture instead of just voting for some local gob****e whos going to do naff all

geespot

so tommyt its fair to judge you by what your brother has done that makes sense everybody knows gerry was in the ira so what every party in ireland came out of the ira at some time or other

MonkeyTennis

Id rather vote for Jim Corr.

Actually that gives me and idea!


mmmmm

MonkeyTennis

geespot wrote: »

voting for gerry gives the people of louth the chance to look at the bigger picture instead of just voting for some local gob****e whos going to do naff all

cool. we get to vote for some NON local gob****e. Thats refreshing right there.

10green bottles

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

cool. we get to vote for some NON local gob****e. Thats refreshing right there.

Blackrock,Knockbridge and Drogheda locals have hardly "refreshed" us,in fact they have beaten us down and rode us to debt

10green bottles

indiewindy wrote: »

take a look at the cover of the agus this week;)

The AGUS is gerrys favourite read,go raibh maith agat :rolleyes:
Its also one of his favourite words.
:-D

qwertplaywert

geespot wrote: »

everybody knows gerry was in the ira so what every party in ireland came out of the ira at some time or other

I think alot of peoples difficulty with this(including mine) is the facts its been as close to confirmed as you can get that he has been a member of the IRA, and also a member of their army council, yet he refuses to admit this for some reason[even though the likes of Martin McGuiness have no problem admiting their past]. Also he is a parachute candidate. He has no business running in Louth.

10green bottles

qwertplaywert wrote: »

I]. Also he is a parachute candidate. He has no business running in Louth.

He is an Irish passport holder and therfore he can, like you(if you hold one), run in any constituency he wants.
Do you reckon this is the first time someone has been "parachuted" in to a constituency??
Like FFS you go on as if it was all new just because you dont give two flying flukes for the man.

Wolfe Tone

He is as Irish as the rest of us. He is doing this for the right reasons. He has a GUARANTEED(well 99%) seat in the assembly and in Westminster. He aint doing this for money, expenses or anything like that.

TommyT

geespot wrote: »

so tommyt its fair to judge you by what your brother has done that makes sense everybody knows gerry was in the ira so what every party in ireland came out of the ira at some time or other

We Judge Gerry by his own actions. He knew that his brother had been accused of being a paedophile long before it ever became public knowledge, but still allowed him to remain in the party and to keep his job as a "community worker" both in Dundalk and Belfast. Liam also remained an active party member during this time.

geespot

loads of people have been accused of loads of things that doesnt make them right. with regard to the parachuting in of gerry adams (strange choice of words everybody in this country is complaining about the style of politics in this country where in all about favaours and slaps on the back and keeping the county sweet while letting the country go to fcuk instead of doing what is right for the country and letting that filter down to countyif for no other reason than he risked his life for his country which is more than can be said for any of the other likely canditates

TommyT

He risked his life for his country?

indiewindy

geespot wrote: »

loads of people have been accused of loads of things that doesnt make them right. with regard to the parachuting in of gerry adams (strange choice of words everybody in this country is complaining about the style of politics in this country where in all about favaours and slaps on the back and keeping the county sweet while letting the country go to fcuk instead of doing what is right for the country and letting that filter down to countyif for no other reason than he risked his life for his country which is more than can be said for any of the other likely canditates

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geespot

see in the local rag that pases for a newspaper mark the tw4t dearey called gerry adams a celebrity candidate considering that gerry has devoted his life to irish politics it sounds strange coming from a publican

TommyT

geespot wrote: »

considering that gerry has devoted his life to irish politics it sounds strange coming from a publican

Since when did Stormont have anything to do with Irish politics? Gerry had his only taste of Irish politics during the run up to the last general election, when he was shown up for the idiot that he is on a live TV debate. He is out of his depth when he leaves the Falls Rd. He cant blame everything on "themmuns" down here. If Sinn Fein are to have a future in Irish politics they need a new leadership, not a relic of a bygone era. In my opinion he is trying to head of a challenge to his leadership by Pearse Doherty, who should walk home in the upcoming by election.
<snip>

10green bottles

TommyT wrote: »

In my opinion he is trying to head of a challenge to his leadership by Pearse Doherty, who should walk home in the upcoming by election.

:rolleyes: your opinion is about is about as far of the radar as it could be!! Make something else up,i like a chuckle in the morning:D

Mr Magnolia

Folks, please don't post unsubstantiated, libelous material here.

Wolfe Tone

TommyT wrote: »

Since when did Stormont have anything to do with Irish politics? Gerry had his only taste of Irish politics during the run up to the last general election, when he was shown up for the idiot that he is on a live TV debate. He is out of his depth when he leaves the Falls Rd. He cant blame everything on "themmuns" down here. If Sinn Fein are to have a future in Irish politics they need a new leadership, not a relic of a bygone era. In my opinion he is trying to head of a challenge to his leadership by Pearse Doherty, who should walk home in the upcoming by election.
<snip>

Where did you pull that theory from? Best put it back, cause it is a load of rubbish. So, according to you, he is trying to save his leadership by leaving his own rock solid constituency, leaving his seats and by actually leaving the 6 counties where SF is the biggest party on the go. Is that right?

geespot

at least we know what the t stands for just missing the wat at the end of it how about you at least learning your geography if your not interested in history both stormont and the falls road are in ireland and what happens there is irish politics as for the stupid remark about a body on cooley beach just shows how ridiculous everything you post is every village needs an idiot iam sure theres a village somewhere in co down missing you

Mr Magnolia

Personal abuse will not be tolerated on the forum

TommyT

Stormont and the Falls Rd are in Ireland? They must have moved overnight. Wether we like it or not, Belfast, like the rest of Northern Ireland is an integral part of the UK. It has been for longer than any of us have been alive and will remain part of the UK long after any of us are around. Ireland no longer has a constitutional claim to the North and the union is now stronger thanks to the 1998 GFA. No amount of spin from Sinn Fein can change that. The only thing Sinn Fein have delivered to the people of the six counties is British Rule.
Now lets have a look at Sinn Fein in the south. They are seen as a "northern" party. Their leadership is dominated by ex IRA leaders, or those that can admit that they were in the IRA. They are political outcasts in the 26 counties and in my opinion are losing their best TD in Arthur Morgan. They have failed miserably in the last few elections and even lost their Euro MP. Adams is seen as out of touch in the south and indeed a liability by many within his own party.
If Gerry fails to win a seat in the upcoming election it is the end of his leadership. Anyone can win a seat in West Belfast with the backing of Sinn Fein, but in the real world it may not be that easy. What has Gerry got to offer the people of Louth? How is he going to create employment, what is he going to do for the economy. We have enough people selling dodgy diesel and imported cigarettes thank you very much. What can he offer the farmers of Louth?
If Sinn Fein are to have a future in Irish politics they need some new faces at the top. Their leadership is stale. The once O.C. of the IRA is now an elected member of the house of commons and deputy first minister of Northern Ireland. Other ex IRA members are now also happily administering British rule in the north. If they havent sold out then they have most certainly been bought out.

10green bottles

TommyT wrote: »

Stormont and the Falls Rd are in Ireland? They must have moved overnight. Wether we like it or not, Belfast, like the rest of Northern Ireland is an integral part of the UK. It has been for longer than any of us have been alive and will remain part of the UK long after any of us are around. Ireland no longer has a constitutional claim to the North and the union is now stronger thanks to the 1998 GFA. No amount of spin from Sinn Fein can change that. The only thing Sinn Fein have delivered to the people of the six counties is British Rule.
Now lets have a look at Sinn Fein in the south. They are seen as a "northern" party. Their leadership is dominated by ex IRA leaders, or those that can admit that they were in the IRA. They are political outcasts in the 26 counties and in my opinion are losing their best TD in Arthur Morgan. They have failed miserably in the last few elections and even lost their Euro MP. Adams is seen as out of touch in the south and indeed a liability by many within his own party.
If Gerry fails to win a seat in the upcoming election it is the end of his leadership. Anyone can win a seat in West Belfast with the backing of Sinn Fein, but in the real world it may not be that easy. What has Gerry got to offer the people of Louth? How is he going to create employment, what is he going to do for the economy. We have enough people selling dodgy diesel and imported cigarettes thank you very much. What can he offer the farmers of Louth?
If Sinn Fein are to have a future in Irish politics they need some new faces at the top. Their leadership is stale. The once O.C. of the IRA is now an elected member of the house of commons and deputy first minister of Northern Ireland. Other ex IRA members are now also happily administering British rule in the north. If they havent sold out then they have most certainly been bought out.

:rolleyes:
YAWN!!
didnt even read it.

Wolfe Tone

I could have sworn this island was called Ireland!

My name is URL

I like Gerry Adams tbh. Not for his views per se, but for his determination and substance. He's a great speaker and when he speaks he does so from the heart. I'm not sure if I would vote for him though, not with the present situation we have. I do think we need a few vocal idealists in the Dail to counter the monotonous ramblings that have taken over in the last few years, but that need is dwarved by our present need to have a coherent and competent parliament of people with real plas on how to improve our country and not just pipe-dreams which are completely unattainable at this point in time.

TommyT

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

I could have sworn this island was called Ireland!

Part of this Island is under British rule. The problem with Sinn Fein and their supporters is that they chose to ignore the cold hard facts.

geespot

northern ireland is not part of ireland are you completly retarded how can you write that down and read it and not think how stupid it is dont know what your problem is but as everybody else on has said you are starting to bore everybody

Wolfe Tone

TommyT wrote: »

Part of this Island is under British rule. The problem with Sinn Fein and their supporters is that they chose to ignore the cold hard facts.

Dont ignore it, work to end it.

TommyT

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

Dont ignore it, work to end it.

Work to end it? Like Gerry and Co? Dont they get paid by the British government? Dont you find that a little bit strange?

Wolfe Tone

TommyT wrote: »

Work to end it? Like Gerry and Co? Dont they get paid by the British government? Dont you find that a little bit strange?

Money has never motivated SF and co.

Do I find it strange? Yeah, do I lik it? No. But it is a necessary evil imo. SF have compromised greatly in order to leave the gun behind. Sure a few quid is the least the British establishment owes us

10green bottles

They sit in an elected assembly as part of a peace process,do you think they shouldnt draw a salary for doing so or would you rather a return to the dark days of the troubles??
FFS will you stop trolling.

delly

Infraction for geespot for insulting another poster. Folks, this aint the politics forum so unless you can put your points across in a civilised manner then we can happily close the thread and you can debate elsewhere.