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    #32
    Morrisseeee
    Registered Users Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭Morrisseeee


    One year from when ?????????????? last year's TDF ??!!
    Could he ride this years Vuelta ??!!
    I think he's getting off lightly, but I guess the 'actual' evidence is missing, a bit like.......what's his face..........Lancelot !! Oh and congrats to Andy..... ahem cough.....and Nicholas (14th).


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    #33
    Junior
    Registered Users Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭Junior


    The Federation will recommend a 1 year Ban UCI will appeal to CAS it will take another 6 months, he'll get 2 years and serve only 6.


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    #34
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,268 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    He won't be able to ride once suspended, even if it is appealed.


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    #35
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,021 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    wayne0308 wrote: »
    Surely he would have been tested throughout the tour and came up clean until this instance?

    Right. So what does that prove? The clenbuterol was introduced into his body suddenly, and in a very small amount.

    There are two explanations for this. One is that he ate some meat. The other is that he transfused some blood.


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    #36
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,268 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Or he had steak from a cow that was blood doping.


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    #37
    Morrisseeee
    Registered Users Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭Morrisseeee


    I don't know the whole story
    Maybe....!! ie. .....like the evidence of plasticisers in his blood, test showed this but unfortunately test wasn't approved at the time.


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    #38
    Junior
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    el tonto wrote: »
    He won't be able to ride once suspended, even if it is appealed.

    I understand that, but by the time the sentence is applied he'll be 18 months down the road from the positive test, and might have only actually 6 months to serve which won't seem like justice done considering how quickly that Radioshack guy got banned.


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    #39
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,268 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    By the sounds of it, it could be applied this week though.


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    #40
    wayne0308
    Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭wayne0308


    Lumen wrote: »
    Right. So what does that prove? The clenbuterol was introduced into his body suddenly, and in a very small amount.

    There are two explanations for this. One is that he ate some meat. The other is that he transfused some blood.

    Ah okay, I was thinking that the clenbuterol would have been used directly to effect weight loss. It didn't occur to me that it would come across from the plastic bag used in a transfusion of blood in a detectable quantity. Sorry about my ignorance, this had probably been covered earlier and in the news a few times but I didn't cop on.

    It's going to be interesting to see what happens. Whats the general proceedure now? Will a full report be released after a ban is implemented, or will the details be kept from the public?


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    #41
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,021 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    wayne0308 wrote: »
    Ah okay, I was thinking that the clenbuterol would have been used directly to effect weight loss. It didn't occur to me that it would come across from the plastic bag used in a transfusion of blood in a detectable quantity.

    Just to be clear:

    - Clenbuterol: drug for fat burning (cows/cyclists/whatever).
    - Plasticizers: additive for making blood bags soft.

    The presence of both, with the test concentrations as reported, strongly indicates blood doping. Or it would if there was a recognized test for plasticizers.

    Unfortunately no one is going to get done for plasticizers since this case has been publicised. They'll probably switch to jam jars instead, until the test for microscopic quantities of raspberry becomes available.


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