Something i was wondering about.

When i was reading the equal pay thread it got me thinking about a few things.

Why do some women want to be liked so much/ are hesitant/ inclined not to be straightforward...

For example during the Celtic tiger a friend of mine was trying to help her rather laid back son get a job he had previously worked in a bank...so she phoned the human resource department of a well know bank, she get talking to a woman who said there are" no vacancies IS THAT ALL RIGHT".... now a man would have said there are no vacancies and that would have been it.

Is to do with the way girls are raise or what.

dory

Just a turn of phrase??

In general, if a guy says something bad to someone he's being funny/a lad/messing.
If a girl says the same thing she's a bitch.

Might be where some of the hesitation comes from.

nice1franko

It's an Irish thing - not a female thing.

Like the way we say sorry for everything.

Malari

I'd assume it's a way of saying "is there anything else I can help you with?" Nothing female about it really?

Nervous Wreck

Politeness tbh. Thread's a bit of a stretch....

pollypocket10

mariaalice wrote: »

When i was reading the equal pay thread it got me thinking about a few things.

Why do some women want to be liked so much/ are hesitant/ inclined not to be straightforward...

For example during the Celtic tiger a friend of mine was trying to help her rather laid back son get a job he had previously worked in a bank...so she phoned the human resource department of a well know bank, she get talking to a woman who said there are" no vacancies IS THAT ALL RIGHT".... now a man would have said there are no vacancies and that would have been it.

Is to do with the way girls are raise or what.

Sorry OT but this is really a pet hate of mine :rolleyes: Mammy ringing up to find out about jobs doesn't do them any favours. I get these type of calls all the time and in general the lazy articles name gets a black mark over it!

Back on topic, I think it's an Irish thing too, I'd always ask if thats ok even though the answer won't make any bit of change

How Strange

Have to agree, why was mammy ringing hr depts on behalf of her son? It certainly wouldn't give a good impression of the son if I were a hr person. I'd be thinking will his mammy be ringing me every time he has a problem.

I don't really get what you're asking in this specific case. In general women are culturally bred to be the nurturer, the carer and therefore the more passive, less aggressive. We seem to want to fit in more with the group. That seems to be our designated place in the pack. I've seen many times what happens when a woman is independent, outspoken, assertive especially in the workplace. In general, and of course there are exceptions, people feel intimidated or threatened and try to put her back in her place so to speak.

Women can be the most vicious towards other women who show leadership qualities and you'll get the usual 'give a woman a bit of power line and she'll be categorised as a b1tch.

Maybe it is more of an Irish thing ..but some women seem to do it a lot... almost apologizing for themselves instead of giving a straight forward polite factual answer...

How Strange

mariaalice wrote: »

Maybe it is more of an Irish thing ..but some women seem to do it a lot... almost apologizing for themselves instead of giving a straight forward polite factual answer...

I'd attribute that to a lack of confidence really and was probably more a problem with older generations. Years ago the men came first in the household/family and women stayed in the background. Also if a family could afford education it was usually the men who were educated while the women had to go out to work from an early age.

I can't see the younger generations of women being as meek and mild as their mothers/grannies.