Informed Performance Submission Mini Leagues 2- November 27th

Performance Martial Arts

Today was a great day for everyone who braved the weather conditions!! I didn get a chance to see the advanced division as i was reffing the teens but i heard the standard was very high again. Very wel run as always and plenty of good lads floating about. Thanks to Paul Fox for reffing my section!!! Looking forward to the next one of these and all my lads who competed really gained plenty of expirience and will be back for the next one. Im really starting to sense that PMS is gonna stick?? Thanks Barry!!!!


Burke Michael

SDTimeout

That was brilliant. Relax atmosphere and no pressure on lads having to do it for the first time. Annoyed i couldn't do my last two fights after one was stopped only i was advised against competing on my leg again. Still a learning curve and will be looking forward to the next one!

Chris89

Really cool tournament, relaxed atmosphere. I was hoping to get a chance to get beaten by Andre Ramos but the draw didnt go that way.

Maybe for the next one, if youre going with sub only, the rounds could be longer for advanced? A lot of super defensive games today!

Will Heffernan

Chris89 wrote: »

Really cool tournament, relaxed atmosphere. I was hoping to get a chance to get beaten by Andre Ramos but the draw didnt go that way.

Maybe for the next one, if youre going with sub only, the rounds could be longer for advanced? A lot of super defensive games today!

Shut up Chris...I told you before...no one cares what you think.

Nice ear muffs by the way...they looked like they kept your ears really toasty.

Chris89

I actually had an earpiece under them and i was getting secret instructions from royce gracie and jean claude van damme

OMCCABE

Great tournament today guys. Absolutely loved the submission only format. Avoids stalling and riding out a decision. Really exciting matches all the way through.

Thanks

Oisin

OLDMAN1

Chris89 wrote: »

Really cool tournament, relaxed atmosphere. I was hoping to get a chance to get beaten by Andre Ramos but the draw didnt go that way.

Maybe for the next one, if youre going with sub only, the rounds could be longer for advanced? A lot of super defensive games today!

im sure you will get your chance in the future,Andre is a excellent grappler, today was the first time i saw him!!!

da-bres

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

We hope to do this again in 4 times in 2011, starting in March.

Thats so awesome!!:)

Barry.Oglesby

yes, 4!

I also forgot to add Royal Combat Club to that list of supporting clubs. Knew I'd forget someone.

darced

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Will Heffernan

Barry is off judging at BattleZone 1 today so I'd say all the results will be up tomorrow.

SDTimeout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDlXvJV2v2U

moment of the day ?

pablohoney87

Haha. I love it. Fox (if its him) jumps perfectly to make it look like the impact hops him off the ground:D He also looke a little confused as to what to do about it.
As fair as moments of the day I heard a fairly well spoke young blue belt from Ryano lande a gogo. Is that the 1st in irish competition.

SDTimeout

pablohoney87 wrote: »

Haha. I love it. Fox (if its him) jumps perfectly to make it look like the impact hops him off the ground:D He also looke a little confused as to what to do about it.
As fair as moments of the day I heard a fairly well spoke young blue belt from Ryano lande a gogo. Is that the 1st in irish competition.

I heard about the gogo as well, just writing up about it now. Oisin Mc Cabe it was

Barry.Oglesby

Not the first gogoplata in Irish competition, in fact not even close. I've seen at least 8 or 9 personally and I don't go to every comp.

Irish grappling is quite old you know.

lukeyjudo

I'd put money on it being the first (of many) ones of these... :P
http://m.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7769228&id=670528974

OLDMAN1

does anybody have any videos of the advanced section,? i forgot to charge the battary on the camera..

pablohoney87

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

Not the first gogoplata in Irish competition, in fact not even close. I've seen at least 8 or 9 personally and I don't go to every comp.

Irish grappling is quite old you know.

Ah ive been to a fair few myself over the past couple years. Seen my fair share of attempted ones. Never seen one be finished. Seee n them in training plenty of times too though.

MichaelDevlin

I saw some guy taking photos of the fights any of them going online?

Will Heffernan

Yes mate...on the Informed. Performance facebook page you'll find a link to them.

SanoVitae

Just out of interest, what is it about the gogoplata that excites so many BJJ fans?

Is it that it's so difficult to get all the aspects of the move all at once at the required time? It seems to be exalted to a status that no other BJJ tecnique has.

Just curious!

SanoVitae

Just out of interest, what is it about the gogoplata that excites so many BJJ fans?

Is it that it's so difficult to get all the aspects of the move all at once at the required time? It seems to be exalted to a status that no other BJJ tecnique has.

Just curious!

SDTimeout

The Name.

If it was called " The Thing " it wouldn't be so great!

Unless something called " The Thing " created excitement. Which it probably would....

pablohoney87

SanoVitae wrote: »

Just out of interest, what is it about the gogoplata that excites so many BJJ fans?

Is it that it's so difficult to get all the aspects of the move all at once at the required time? It seems to be exalted to a status that no other BJJ tecnique has.

Just curious!

Its a pretty flashy move with a very low success rate. to do on anyone with a decent skill level it requires either catching them off guard or being very clever with your rubber guard. I find most times a gogo's been pulled off there were 3 other subs available before that appears but still fair balls to ya if you catch someone with it.

EnjoyChoke

SanoVitae wrote: »

Just out of interest, what is it about the gogoplata that excites so many BJJ fans?

Is it that it's so difficult to get all the aspects of the move all at once at the required time? It seems to be exalted to a status that no other BJJ tecnique has.

Just curious!

Flashy low percentage moves don't excite me. Someone who can land one of their signature submissions, time and time again, against an opponent of equal skill level, that excites me.
How many Gogoplatas has Marcelo Garcia landed? Or Roger Gracie, or BJ Penn or Gunnar Nelson?
They've landed loads of rear naked chokes, North south chokes, collar chokes, guillotines, armbars etc. High percentage, perfectly timed and combined submissions. That's exciting.

Sid_Justice

I think the estonian's call these things 'goofy' submissions and don't put a whole lot of weight in them except for the goofiness.

OMCCABE

pablohoney87 wrote: »

Its a pretty flashy move with a very low success rate. to do on anyone with a decent skill level it requires either catching them off guard or being very clever with your rubber guard. I find most times a gogo's been pulled off there were 3 other subs available before that appears but still fair balls to ya if you catch someone with it.

Basically bang on. Was trying to pry open a triangle from rubber guard..he defended well so switched to an armbar but his elbow was too far retracted so instead went for the angle to attempt an omoplate or sweep, he pushed back in hard and his chin slid over the foot. Reached around to grab my foot for the choke but he was looking to the side and it wasn't on the throat. Tried to extend and he slipped his arm out so I had to modify it to get the tap.

Short version..failed on 3 other sub attempts before catching what was available.

Gogo's like many things are low percentage but its a trick up the sleeve. The most impressive thing I've ever seen in BJJ was Roger Gracie's clean sweep all by mounted chokes.

Oisin

SanoVitae

Quick question:

Do total novices in BJJ ever enter this competitions?

I'm taking up BJJ in January. I'm aware that you "roll" from the very beginning so you're immediately competing against people who are better than you.

While I know I'd get my ass handed to me very quickly, I'd be very motivated by the prospect of training for something.

Is this encouraged or frowned upon?

da-bres

SanoVitae wrote: »

Quick question:

Do total novices in BJJ ever enter this competitions?

I'm taking up BJJ in January. I'm aware that you "roll" from the very beginning so you're immediately competing against people who are better than you.

While I know I'd get my ass handed to me very quickly, I'd be very motivated by the prospect of training for something.

Is this encouraged or frowned upon?

First 6 months of BJJ are tough, i felt very helpless! but the nature of the sport makes it very enjoyable:) Once you pick up the fundamentals it gets a lot easier.

Training partners are there to help, ask tons of questions and roll as much as possible:)

If you are training 4 times a week you will pick it up fast, best example I know is Kamil from SBG, trained hard 5 days a week and got to blue belt in 8 months!

Set a goal for the next Dublin open:) thats probably in febuary or march:)

DavidPhelan

SanoVitae wrote: »

Quick question:

Do total novices in BJJ ever enter this competitions?

I'm taking up BJJ in January. I'm aware that you "roll" from the very beginning so you're immediately competing against people who are better than you.

While I know I'd get my ass handed to me very quickly, I'd be very motivated by the prospect of training for something.

Is this encouraged or frowned upon?

I only started training in September, competed in the Irish championships in October and got bronze, then competed in the informed performance comp a few weeks ago and got gold. Basically, competing has helped me improve hugely and it's good for finding out where your weak points are. Already I know that my top game is weak as hell and I instinctively pull guard but this became far more apparent in competition.

Most importantly, comps are fun!!