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Condom Usage with foreskin

  • 30-10-2010 5:13pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Hey everyone I have tried to have sex a good few times now but I rarely manage to keep my penis inside the girl as it slips out and because I have a condom on I can't feel anything. To be honest I might think I am inside her when in fact I'm not!!

    I am thinking of buying thin condoms but my question is this:

    I have foreskin and I always just put the condom straight over my penis however I read online that when you have foreskin you are meant to pull it over the head then put the condom on!! Is this why I feel nothing? Because my head is not exposed??

    Can anyone who has foreskin or even girls who have been with guys who have foreskin tell me if they pull back the foreskin before putting on a condom? I'm sick of having crap sex due to not being able to feel a thing!! :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Wait until your penis is fully erect, then gently pull back your foreskin. Place the condom 'nipple' side up on top of your penis, pinch the nipple (of the condom) and unroll it down the shaft of the penis. You can also get extra thin condoms, though those may break or tear more easily, and also condoms lubricated with a special lube to increase sensetivity.

    HTH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I was in a similar boat OP with a girl I was with earlier this year. There were some other things going on but I distinctly remember the time we went to have sex. The condom went on but like you, once I was inside her, I couldn't actually feel anything. Nothing at all. I don't mean to be crude, but I couldn't feel anything "around" it and couldn't feel any stimulation. And of course, if you can't feel anything, you lose the erection.

    I have a foreskin too and I think perhaps the condom was put on over the top of it. I didn't know either that you're supposed to pull the foreskin back and then put the condom on. That's news to me anyway.

    One other thing that probably didn't help were the type of condoms I was using. I was using Durex Performa condoms which apparently help you last longer. I didn't really know too much about them, but it seems they have some sort of gel or something inside them which I think numbs the end of your penis and probably reduces sensitivity a bit, probably to help you last longer as such. I don't know if this was an issue for me but I suspect it wasn't helping. I know some other people on boards have posted about having issues with the Performa condoms and not feeling anything. Perhaps you are using those type too?

    Since then I've bought Durex Featherlite which are extra thin and apparently help you to feel more. I also have Durex ExtraSafe and I think they are thicker so perhaps are not going to help. Unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to try either of them out yet so I can't say whether they are of any help.

    But it's good to know about the foreskin thing, I had no idea about that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    I have foreskin and I always just put the condom straight over my penis however I read online that when you have foreskin you are meant to pull it over the head then put the condom on!! Is this why I feel nothing? Because my head is not exposed??

    Do you mean you put the foreskin over your bell-end? Not sure how you could even do that tbh. You should pull it the other way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭Johnny Favourite


    Lads.... Pull your foreskin back and then put on the johnny.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Can anyone who has foreskin or even girls who have been with guys who have foreskin tell me if they pull back the foreskin before putting on a condom? I'm sick of having crap sex due to not being able to feel a thing!! :(
    What has been already said. Of course you retract your foreskin before putting on the condom, otherwise like you report you'll feel nothing. Even without a condom if you didnt pull back the foreskin you'd feel nothing.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Lenmeister


    Don't forget that it also depends on the woman, if her skin/muscles down there are not tight, as the saying goes, it can be like throwing a sausage up o connel st.

    Try to put lube over the head and also on the inside of the condom. That will allow your foreskin to move alot more so you have more feeling. But the main thing is to make sure your foreskin is behind the head and not pulled up over it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 327 ✭✭St._Andalou


    You should pull the foreskin back before you put on a condom.

    Does your foreskin retract fully when erect? If not it's a medical condition and you should visit a doctor. There a number of things you could try. Stretching exercises, steroid cream is known to help, or the most extreme, circumcision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Does your foreskin retract fully when erect? If not it's a medical condition and you should visit a doctor.
    Just to clarify this - this is not an automatic response. It should be possible to retract your foreskin fully away from the "bell end" when erect. However, it does not necessarily have to happen automatically. There is nothing wrong with you if you have to do it manually. :)

    I know that's what St. Andalou meant, but the wording was ambiguous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 327 ✭✭St._Andalou


    seamus wrote: »
    Just to clarify this - this is not an automatic response. It should be possible to retract your foreskin fully away from the "bell end" when erect. However, it does not necessarily have to happen automatically. There is nothing wrong with you if you have to do it manually. :)

    I know that's what St. Andalou meant, but the wording was ambiguous.

    True. Apologies for ambiguous wording.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    Wibbs wrote: »
    What has been already said. Of course you retract your foreskin before putting on the condom, otherwise like you report you'll feel nothing. Even without a condom if you didnt pull back the foreskin you'd feel nothing.

    Wibbs, to be fair, I think it's not correct to say "of course pull your foreskin back before putting on the condom".

    I don't, because it doesn't suit me. And I've talked to any lad I know about this before and it was about 60:40 in favour of those who DON'T pull their skin back.

    I did try it before out of interest but it just didn't work for me. And my mates said they couldn't imagine doing it. And had never even heard of it.

    Are you talking about pulling it ALL THE WAY BEHIND YOUR BELL END?

    OP, I say try using condomi condoms. They're like wearing nothing. Durex kill my erection. They're just too tight and don't feel nice in general.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    kraggy wrote: »
    Wibbs, to be fair, I think it's not correct to say "of course pull your foreskin back before putting on the condom".

    I don't, because it doesn't suit me. And I've talked to any lad I know about this before and it was about 60:40 in favour of those who DON'T pull their skin back.

    I did try it before out of interest but it just didn't work for me. And my mates said they couldn't imagine doing it. And had never even heard of it.

    Are you talking about pulling it ALL THE WAY BEHIND YOUR BELL END?

    OP, I say try using condomi condoms. They're like wearing nothing. Durex kill my erection. They're just too tight and don't feel nice in general.

    Really?

    But surely if you have had sex without a condom the foreskin will retract naturally as you enter and move back and forth? If you put the condom while the head is covered then it will be unable to retract as it would do if your weren't wearing one??

    I'm confused... thank god the gf is on the pill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    kraggy wrote: »
    Are you talking about pulling it ALL THE WAY BEHIND YOUR BELL END?
    Yes....

    This is something which happens naturally when you're riding bareback (unless you have a lot of additional skin), but needs a bit of assistance before you put a condom on. The foreskin naturally protects the penis when it's not in use, and also protects it during masturbation, but during intercourse the exposed glans heightens sensation for both partners, resulting in quicker and stronger orgasms.

    There's also a suggestion that it plays the part of a suction pump, pumping and scraping any competing sperm out of the vagina before depositing its own. Not such a big deal if you're in a normal relationship :D

    Condom + foreskin = yawnfest. Honestly cannot imagine doing this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I don't, because it doesn't suit me. And I've talked to any lad I know about this before and it was about 60:40 in favour of those who DON'T pull their skin back.

    I did try it before out of interest but it just didn't work for me. And my mates said they couldn't imagine doing it. And had never even heard of it.
    Can anyone who has foreskin or even girls who have been with guys who have foreskin tell me if they pull back the foreskin before putting on a condom?


    Hmm....as a woman who has seen a *ahem* number of penises, I've never ever come across (heh) a guy who didn't pull it back tbh....why on earth would you cover the most sensitive part?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 327 ✭✭St._Andalou


    maple-s wrote: »
    Hmm....as a woman who has seen a *ahem* number of penises, I've never ever come across (heh) a guy who didn't pull it back tbh....why on earth would you cover the most sensitive part?!

    For a lot of guys the foreskin is too tight and it's uncomfortable/painful to retract it fully/partially.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    asdffef wrote: »
    Really?

    But surely if you have had sex without a condom the foreskin will retract naturally as you enter and move back and forth? If you put the condom while the head is covered then it will be unable to retract as it would do if your weren't wearing one??

    I'm confused... thank god the gf is on the pill.

    It goes back alright, but not all the way behind the bell end. I've tried it and I prefer it with the skin not quite all the way back. The tension on the banjo string is kind of uncomfortable and also, I just found that if I did pull it all the way back, that anytime I would pull out, it would go back to the front end again anyway.
    maple-s wrote: »
    Hmm....as a woman who has seen a *ahem* number of penises, I've never ever come across (heh) a guy who didn't pull it back tbh....why on earth would you cover the most sensitive part?!

    Because of discomfort.

    For you guys who do pull it back all the way, does it stay back for ye or does it ever go back over your bell end again?

    Sorry to be so blunt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    For a lot of guys the foreskin is too tight and it's uncomfortable/painful to retract it fully/partially.

    Ahh yes i understand this, but from the OP it sounds like he can but just chooses not to :)

    Op from a female perspective i would consider it normal practice to pull it back, i would imagine if should feel a lot better with the head exposed, but then what do i know i don't have a penis :)

    No harm in giving it a try and see how it feels :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 327 ✭✭St._Andalou


    kraggy wrote: »
    Because of discomfort.

    For you guys who do pull it back all the way, does it stay back for ye or does it ever go back over your bell end again?

    Sorry to be so blunt.

    It doesn't stay back for me, anyway. There are various possibilities to help if you think it's too much of a problem, like steroid creams or stretching exercises, but you'd have to consult a doctor first.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    kraggy wrote: »
    Wibbs, to be fair, I think it's not correct to say "of course pull your foreskin back before putting on the condom".

    I don't, because it doesn't suit me. And I've talked to any lad I know about this before and it was about 60:40 in favour of those who DON'T pull their skin back.

    I did try it before out of interest but it just didn't work for me. And my mates said they couldn't imagine doing it. And had never even heard of it.

    Are you talking about pulling it ALL THE WAY BEHIND YOUR BELL END?
    Eh yes and for the reasons seamus gave. That's how it's "designed" to work. Why do imagine it's there in the first place? Nature would have fused it to the skin of the glans long ago if that was the case. Now of course people differ and whatever floats your boat is fair enough, but in a properly functioning penis the foreskin retracts to expose the sensitive glans. It should with friction retract of it's own accord(TBH I have no idea how it wouldnt retract in condomless sex, nor how dry it may feel for the woman), but may need help.

    If there's a difficulty in retracting it at all then there's likely something amiss with it's functionality. Not great for hygiene either if you can't retract it(or don't) to wash underneath. More and more I'm beginning to see how guys who opt for circumcision say it makes their sensitivity go up afterwards. It's often because they've not experienced a "normal" one in the first place.

    I can also understand some of the ignorance surrounding this even with google at ones disposal. For a start the only willie we tend to know about to any degree is our own. Secondly the vast majority of willies in porn are circumcised as is the American wont, so we as men see very few examples of "as nature intended" willies.

    Like seamus I couldnt imagine doing it that way, never mind with a condom on top. I'd rather have a cup of tea. :)

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    kraggy wrote: »
    Because of discomfort.
    The discomfort aspect might be a concern. If the banjo is too tight I could understand that alright :eek: BTW that can be fixed with a small operation if you so choose, it does not require a full circumcision if that's your only problem. A mate of mine had this issue(to the point where it was too painful for him to have sex full stop) and 3 doctors he saw were all for the full removal, but he got a fourth opinion, ironically from a woman doctor and got the lesser job done and apparently all is good. Well he has two kids now so... :D
    For you guys who do pull it back all the way, does it stay back for ye or does it ever go back over your bell end again?

    Sorry to be so blunt.
    No dead right to ask. Well for me anyway, yes sometimes it does go forward, even though it's all the way behind the head starting off(either by me retracting it or her ladybits doing it for me). I find it varies with the strength of the erection. If I have a "glasscutter" then it tends to stay were it is, if it goes softer halfway through a session it may roll forward, but doesnt stay there for long. Since we're all different it's gonna vary, so with a guy with a looser foresking it may roll back and forth with every push so to speak.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    Wibbs wrote: »
    so with a guy with a looser foresking it may roll back and forth with every push so to speak.

    Which is one of the main reasons I personally don't pull it back. It's not that I can't, it's that it won't stay back, and the few times that it was fully back whilst having sex, I didn't enjoy it any more than when it's covering.

    Differents pokes for different folks I suppose :)


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Plus when it rolls forward you're probably feeling the sensation of your own foreskin against the glans. You're own built in vagina so to speak.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    MrUnreg wrote: »
    I was using Durex Performa condoms which apparently help you last longer. I didn't really know too much about them, but it seems they have some sort of gel or something inside them which I think numbs the end of your penis and probably reduces sensitivity a bit, probably to help you last longer as such.

    :eek:

    I effing hate these things, they do indeed contain an anesthetic, they don't reduce sensitivity "a bit", they ruin all feeling. Christ, one time I used them and ended up back on a flop and didn't even know.

    These abominations should be taken off the market.

    I can't even imagine using one with the foreskin pulled up over the tip.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I had no idea that you were supposed to pull the foreskin back and then put the condom on. When I think about it now, I guess it makes sense but it never really occurred to me. Having said that, my sex experience is extremely limited so I don't have much of a frame of reference.

    I'm guessing though you kind of have to be a bit careful when the foreskin is pulled back? I can pull mine back when erect and I think I'd be able to operate normally but I think anything particularly vigorous may give cause for concern re the banjo string. I don't think it's painfully tight or anything, but I definitely wouldn't want to go nuts for fear of snapping it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    MrUnreg wrote: »
    I'm guessing though you kind of have to be a bit careful when the foreskin is pulled back? I can pull mine back when erect and I think I'd be able to operate normally but I think anything particularly vigorous may give cause for concern re the banjo string. I don't think it's painfully tight or anything, but I definitely wouldn't want to go nuts for fear of snapping it.
    It's stronger than you think it is :)
    Men don't come pre-configured for sex any more than women do. We have our own "bedding-in" period after losing our viriginity where our nether regions get used to the new sensations and strains that we put on them. This is partially why your first sexual experience is as weird and uncomfortable for men as it is for women.

    If it feels under strain, then obviously take it easy, but it will become looser in time :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I'm one of those guys who can't pull my foreskin back atall, last time i had sex it was very uncomfortable, i'm afraid to get into a serious relationship with someone im seeing because of embarassment.
    I'm ****ing myself at the thought of going to a GP but i know i need to do it to sort it out, would people recomend going anywhere other than the gp? and if so is it possible to visit a non-local gp as i know my local one well!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    afraid wrote: »
    I'm one of those guys who can't pull my foreskin back atall, last time i had sex it was very uncomfortable, i'm afraid to get into a serious relationship with someone im seeing because of embarassment.
    I'm ****ing myself at the thought of going to a GP but i know i need to do it to sort it out, would people recomend going anywhere other than the gp? and if so is it possible to visit a non-local gp as i know my local one well!
    Go to a Well Man clinic or a urologist, I would think. You need to go to a doctor in any case.

    There's a strong possibility they will recommend circumcision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Im circumcised and even I concluded you rolled it back :pac: It's a bit like tucking your gloves under your sweater-sleeve, innit?
    I'm one of those guys who can't pull my foreskin back atall, last time i had sex it was very uncomfortable, i'm afraid to get into a serious relationship with someone im seeing because of embarassment.
    I'm ****ing myself at the thought of going to a GP but i know i need to do it to sort it out, would people recomend going anywhere other than the gp? and if so is it possible to visit a non-local gp as i know my local one well!
    Ask your GP to refer you to someone else. I think your relationship with your local will endure discussing an appointment to see a different specialist about your johnson; perhaps a lot more than it would if he had to look at it himself and then you both went off for pints that weekend. But joking aside, that sounds like something you need to get looked at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭BigProblem


    so to cut along story short... is it possible to have sex if ur forekin does not retract? i can get very little movement in my foreskin when soft or erect!

    Thanks for any help


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    pwd wrote: »
    Go to a Well Man clinic or a urologist, I would think. You need to go to a doctor in any case.

    There's a strong possibility they will recommend circumcision.

    There are more time consuming but preferable alternatives to losing those thousands of nerve endings in your penis.

    Circumcision is a dying practice and rightly so, I will not bother going into details here but do research it yourself OP, as once you have a piece of you anatomy surgically removed it won't ever grow back, the long arduous foreskin replacement treatments aren't as good as the original thing.

    Avoid this at all costs or at the very least, research it to death and the alternatives to surgery which just take time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Well.. basically i bit the bullet and visited my GP, and explained my problem. He told me to whip it out, and low and behold pulls my foreskin back for me... it was quite sore but i finally saw my penis head, he recomended stretching in the shower which ive been doing for a few days now..
    the foreskin is now retracting normally when flaccid, but there is a tight ring forming that is quite red and what looks liek a black vein running through it??? Anyone else had this before??
    When erect, im finding it a little easier to pull foreskin back but only a quarter way down the head..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Just keep at it.

    When flaccid, it can sometimes be a little dry down there, so pulling it back is a bit like peeling yourself off a leather couch on a hot day and it hurts a little. It's smoother when you're erect because a lubricant is naturally secreted to make it easier.

    Both your experiences indicate that it is a little tight, you should be able to pull it fully over the head when erect. Just keep working at it - I would advise only trying to stretch it back when it's erect. If you pull it fully back and then accidentally get an erection, that will be very sore indeed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭[-0-]


    I have a question about circumscision... for anyone that has had that surgery how was your performance before vs after? I was thinking of getting it done, but I don't want to have issues cuming.. if you get me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    I find unrolling the condom about a centimetre past the nipple, before putting it on, so it's loose at the end feels much better and reduces the chance of breaking. Gives a bit more room to move. Just make sure to squeeze the air out before putting it on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I recently tried this during some "solo" action to experiment. I have to say that I found that I lost my erection if I pulled the foreskin completely back over the head and put the condom on. It was almost as if it was too tight around the base of the head. I also think I enjoy the sensation of the foreskin moving up and down over the glands, whereas when it's fully back, nothing seems to be moving as such.

    For me it seems to be better when it's about half way over the head.

    Anyone else noticed this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭BigProblem


    afraid wrote: »
    Well.. basically i bit the bullet and visited my GP, and explained my problem. He told me to whip it out, and low and behold pulls my foreskin back for me... it was quite sore but i finally saw my penis head, he recomended stretching in the shower which ive been doing for a few days now..
    the foreskin is now retracting normally when flaccid, but there is a tight ring forming that is quite red and what looks liek a black vein running through it??? Anyone else had this before??
    When erect, im finding it a little easier to pull foreskin back but only a quarter way down the head..

    did u visit wellman clinic after?
    if the foreskin was tight before hand how did the doctor pull back the foreskin so easily?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 Kleenex


    Just a bit of help for someone fairly inexperienced with using condoms. While I have had sex a few times with an ex - it was without a condom. I met a girl recently and have struggled to get the condom on as I haven't really used them before.

    I have a foreskin, so when I'm hard my foreskin comes back over the head of my penis to just behind the head, but when I put the condom on and tried to roll it back it kind of gets stuck between the end part of the head of my penis and my foreskin which is bunched up behind the head of the penis.

    Should I pull my foreskin back further so that I can roll the condom over the head of the penis without it getting stuck into the foreskin? If I do that and then let go of my foreksin would my foreskin not roll over the condom on my shaft?

    Sorry for the long post, just need your help. Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    If the condom is particularly tight when you're putting it on to the point that you have difficulty rolling it down, then you may need a larger size condom than the norm. Not a bad complaint to have :)

    It should be snug like a pair of lycra shorts, but not so tight that it feels like a rubber band wrapped around it. Give it a go when you're not in the heat of the moment and see if it's just a matter of technique and lifting the condom over the wad of foreskin, or if it's actually just too tight.

    Also make sure that you're putting it on the right way round - if you can't roll it on at all, then you may be doing this :)


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