the "British Isles"

Cú Giobach

would anyone feel like myself that every time I here the exression the "British Isles" it makes me cringe, I like quite a "few" Irish people find this name a bit of a misnomer and an insult, The island is not part of Britian and hasnt been since the last iceage.
Britian is an Island to the east of ireland and how can we be part of the british Islands, the British and Gaelic tribes were very distinct and appart from the ivasion of the british lot we are not british and will never be.
Is it not time to change this name?? To reflect the reality of a situation.??

mike65

Ya know what, this has never been discussed here before. Thankyou for bringing it to our attention.

gurramok

Never heard of 'British Isles' before, must be somewhere in Britain?

Biggins

mike65 wrote: »

Ya know what, this has never been discussed here before. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.

Your so right. :pac:

Excuse me for a minute, I'm off to go bang me head on the desk again.

The Waltzing Consumer

I think the term agreed on is "these islands"

My name is URL

It's only a name.. like how Monster Island is really a peninsula.

The Isle of Man lies in the Irish Sea but that doesn't mean that we have any claim over it

Sharkey 10

dosent really bother me, its not about what were called but what we are

FreudianSlippers

It doesn't really bother me tbh. The British Isles are just a name for a geographical area comprised of six thousand islands and 2 States.

Einhard

I imaging the good people of New Ireland in the South Pacific are having the same type of discussion about their moniker as we type...

Down with Irish Imperialism!!

Latchy

Geografically speaking , Ireland is considered part of the ' The British Isles ' . Why would it bother anybody ? It's not like people looking at the world atlas will go '' oh dear , I do think they have got that bit wrong there hmmm '' ?

gurramok

OisinT wrote: »

It doesn't really bother me tbh. The British Isles are just a name for a geographical area comprised of six thousand islands and 2 States.

What 2 states?

OPENROAD

How many times has this been done??

goose2005

Cú Giobach wrote: »

the British and Gaelic tribes were very distinct

No, they weren't. The earliest Celtic settlers of Britain and Ireland were the Pritani, which is where "Britain" comes from.

Sharkey 10

OisinT wrote: »

It doesn't really bother me tbh. The British Isles are just a name for a geographical area comprised of six thousand islands and 2 States.

Really , wow that alot i guess a good portion are around scotland

Where did you get that figure?

FreudianSlippers

gurramok wrote: »

What 2 states?

1) The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
2) Ireland.

robinph

What about those poor Swiss who have to put up with being told they are part of Europe?

FreudianSlippers

Sharkey 10 wrote: »

Really , wow that alot i guess a good portion are around scotland

Where did you get that figure?

One of those random things I remembered from school, but I double checked on Wikipedia for accuracy

Killer Pigeon

Cú Giobach wrote: »

would anyone feel like myself that every time I here the exression the "British Isles" it makes me cringe, I like quite a "few" Irish people find this name a bit of a misnomer and an insult, The island is not part of Britian and hasnt been since the last iceage.
Britian is an Island to the east of ireland and how can we be part of the british Islands, the British and Gaelic tribes were very distinct and appart from the ivasion of the british lot we are not british and will never be.
Is it not time to change this name?? To reflect the reality of a situation.??

Don't you mean the 'North Atlantic Archipelago'?

gurramok

OisinT wrote: »

1) The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
2) Ireland.

No its not. Ireland is not part of the British Isles, what gave you that idea?

steddyeddy

goose2005 wrote: »

No, they weren't. The earliest Celtic settlers of Britain and Ireland were the Pritani, which is where "Britain" comes from.

Id have to dispute that they were the earlest settlers

Töpher

Why is it that we can no longer think of the British Isles, without the word paedoph in front of them?

FreudianSlippers

gurramok wrote: »

No its not. Ireland is not part of the British Isles, what gave you that idea?

Go back to school

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1346048/British-Isles

Saila

robinph wrote: »

What about those poor Swiss who have to put up with being told they are part of Europe?

but they are!

robinph

Here are a few maps to help you out:

http://www.google.co.uk/images?q=british+isles+map&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=ckTMTJ-uFpCRjAeDl6XWBw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CDEQsAQwAA&biw=1025&bih=771

Einhard

robinph wrote: »

What about those poor Swiss who have to put up with being told they are part of Europe?

Eh, I think it would as a bit of surprise to them to find that they're not part of Europe!!

gurramok

OisinT wrote: »

Go back to school

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1346048/British-Isles

And he quotes the Britannica. One could not make this up!:D

FreudianSlippers

Personally I think they should be called by the old name: Pretanic Isles

But there are many that prefer Northwest European Archipelago and academic geographers often call them Anglo-Celtic Isles

Cú Giobach

mike65 wrote: »

Ya know what, this has never been discussed here before. Thankyou for bringing it to our attention.

yea since i havent have to time to read every thred in this forum due to the finite life of the universe and due to the numbers of new people joining on a regulsr basis sometimes things can be repeatet for thoses of us relative newbies.

Yuo dont have to be involved if you don't want.:D

Sisko

It is a bit of a shame its called such alright. Even if it is a 'geographical' name it implies a British claim to this Island.

Many still bend over and take it though , for fear of someone thinking they were a Ra' head.

The British wouldn't like it if were called the Irish Isles or the West French Irelands.

Agricola

Seriously.

Can we all just stop replying to this thread now. I dont want to be still looking at this thing next weekend. Its been done to death, then resurrected and done again................53 times.

FreudianSlippers

gurramok wrote: »

And he quotes the Britannica. One could not make this up!:D

Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc. is an American company that publishes the oldest English-language encyclopaedia still in print and it is internationally respected. :rolleyes:

OPENROAD

Cú Giobach wrote: »

yea since i havent have to time to read every thred in this forum due to the finitr life of the universe and due to the numbers of new people joining on a regulsr basis sometimes things can be repeatet for thoses of us relative newbies.

Yuo dont have to be involved if you don't want.:D

does get a bit boring when the same topics come up again and again

welcome to AH

gurramok

robinph wrote: »

Here are a few maps to help you out:

http://www.google.co.uk/images?q=british+isles+map&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=ckTMTJ-uFpCRjAeDl6XWBw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CDEQsAQwAA&biw=1025&bih=771

This is funny. Another who quotes a .co.uk domain to support his claims that this is the British Isles.!

del88

It's a geographic term nowadays and not a political accurate description so i wont be losing to much sleep....

robinph

Einhard wrote: »

Eh, I think it would as a bit of surprise to them to find that they're not part of Europe!!

Well that all depends on if you are talking geographically or politically doesn't it?

Which is where the OP's confusion occurs as they are getting a geographical term confused as a political one.

th3 s1aught3r

Cú Giobach wrote: »

The island is not part of Britian and hasnt been since the last iceage.

I think you will find this Island was part of Britain until quite recently

robinph

gurramok wrote: »

This is funny. Another who quotes a .co.uk domain to support his claims that this is the British Isles.!

Here is the .com one:

http://www.google.com/images?q=british+isles+map&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=ckTMTJ-uFpCRjAeDl6XWBw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CDEQsAQwAA&biw=1025&bih=771

and here is the .ie one for you:

http://www.google.ie/images?q=british+isles+map&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=ckTMTJ-uFpCRjAeDl6XWBw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CDEQsAQwAA&biw=1025&bih=771

FreudianSlippers

gurramok wrote: »

This is funny. Another who quotes a .co.uk domain to support his claims that this is the British Isles.!

Wanting it to be not true will not make it not true

gurramok

OisinT wrote: »

Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc. is an American company that publishes the oldest English-language encyclopaedia still in print and it is internationally respected. :rolleyes:

Its all in the name dude. Since when are we British?:eek:

Latchy

Academic ( Anoracks ) Geographers live for these threads

robinph

gurramok wrote: »

Its all in the name dude. Since when are we British?:eek:

Nobody said you were.

FreudianSlippers

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

I think you will find this Island was part of Britain until quite recently

Sigh. I think you mean part of the UK.

The previous poster was correct.

ejmaztec

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

I think the term agreed on is "these islands"

If you were anywhere else on the planet, you'd have to call them "those islands" and hope for the best.

FreudianSlippers

robinph wrote: »

Nobody said you were.

The lady doth protest too much!

gurramok

robinph wrote: »

Nobody said you were.

They did. They said I live in the British Isles. I ain't British.

Whats wrong with saying I live in the Irish Isles. Shamed to be Irish?:eek:

robinph

And here is two helpful maps of Europe for people to play spot the difference with as well:

Europe

Europe

FreudianSlippers

gurramok wrote: »

They did. They said I live in the British Isles. I ain't British.

Whats wrong with saying I live in the Irish Isles. Shamed to be Irish?:eek:

Then just call them the Pretanic Isles.

You can't just start renaming things because you feel like it.

ejmaztec

In before Rebelheart.:D

Cú Giobach

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

I think you will find this Island was part of Britain until quite recently

The last time ihe island was part of the Island of ireland was part of the island of Britian was during the last ice age.

robinph

gurramok wrote: »

They did. They said I live in the British Isles. I ain't British.

Whats wrong with saying I live in the Irish Isles. Shamed to be Irish?:eek:

Yep, they said you live in the British Isles, they did not say that you are therefore British.

Cú Giobach

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

I think you will find this Island was part of Britain until quite recently

When??