North Korea fire on South Korea

Sykk

North Korean and South Korean military units exchanged fire near their border Friday, the South Korean Yonhap news agency reported.

The exchange happened after North Korean forces fired two shots at a South Korean military guard post near the border in Hwacheon, South Korea, about 73 miles (118 km) northeast of Seoul, Yonhap reported, citing an official at the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The South Korean troops fired back, Yonhap said.[Original post] North Korea has fired toward a South Korean military unit near the border, the South Korean Yonhap news agency reported Friday.

CNN.com will bring you the latest updates as they become available.

Source

I will update this as it's updated on CNN.


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They were doing so well with negotiations. Guess the North will go back into their military shell for another 3 years then?

ItsAWindUp

It's the end of the world as we know it!

petes

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

It's the end of the world as we know it!

Shut up Stipe.

youcancallmeal

If there was a conventional war between the two countries North Korea would probably steamroll the South because of their insane fanaticism. The international community/UN would never let it get that far though.

MGMTea

EVERYONE JUST CALM THE **** DOWN !





i got this

bleg

I bet this sort of thing happens every other week. Slow news day.

The_Minister

North Korea has enough artillery pointed at South Korea's capital to wipe it out at any time.

Over 18,000 units AFAIR.

If things were that bad, a million people would be dead.

phill106

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

It's the end of the world as we know it!

And i feel fine.



Seriously, load up the presses with tins of spam, ww3 is coming!

cherryghost

The_Minister wrote: »

North Korea has enough artillery pointed at South Korea's capital to wipe it out at any time.

Over 18,000 units AFAIR.

If things were that bad, a million people would be dead.

South Korea has the USA.

Sykk

The_Minister wrote: »

North Korea has enough artillery pointed at South Korea's capital to wipe it out at any time.

Over 18,000 units AFAIR.

If things were that bad, a million people would be dead.

Doubt it'd be any use... The zone is well protected with anti nuclear systems, not to mention the American Air Force Korea alone has 8,815 personnel there which could probably intercept any launch. That's discluding the South too which have a savage defense force.

Those North Koreans are ****ing insane though so God knows what would happen..

johngalway

I'd consider the sinking of the Cheonan a lot more serious than tit for tat pops at border posts. Business as usual I'd expect.

super_furry

Sykk wrote: »

I will update this as it's updated on CNN.

Thank god for that.

youcancallmeal

Sure the North Koreans killed an American soldier with an axe in 1976 and the Yanks did nothing about it!

Mr Benevolent

Kaboom?

PeterIanStaker

Yaaay nuclear war!!

It'll take our minds off Anglo/NAMA etc.

AnonoBoy

I hope this doesn't kick off too early - there's a gig I want to go to tonight.

flyton5

cherryghost wrote: »

South Korea has the USA.

Oh dear. The USA has enough problems recruiting people for their current military campaigns. They even got rid of the Dont Ask, Dont Tell policy. I cant imagine they'd have too many people signing up to fight against a nuclear power. Especially not the gheys...

Scuid Mhór

youcancallme>al wrote: »

Sure the North Koreans killed an American soldier with an axe in 1976 and the Yanks did nothing about it!

good to know that if we go by wikipedia, there's only been one fatal axe incident throughout history!

Seaneh

youcancallme>al wrote: »

If there was a conventional war between the two countries North Korea would probably steamroll the South because of their insane fanaticism.

Whit that? their 30 year old military tech? Badly trained troops, lack of basic supplies and over all backwardness? The south would not only hold it's borders indefinitely, if they wanted they could be at the chinese border within a fortnight.

Saadyst

Two lads fire some shots at some other lads and people are coming out with the nuclear talk already.

They sank a submarine recently - if that didn't get the nukes out, what's a couple of lads messing around going to get them?

The_Minister

Sykk wrote: »

Doubt it'd be any use... The zone is well protected with anti nuclear systems, not to mention the American Air Force Korea alone has 8,815 personnel there which could probably intercept any launch. That's discluding the South too which have a savage defense force.

Those North Koreans are ****ing insane though so God knows what would happen..

How would anti-nuclear devices protect against c18,000 artillery shells?

You don't need nukes to flatten a city - convential weapons can do a great job on their own.

mikom

Not this slit shit again.

Professey Chin

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

good to know that if we go by wikipedia, there's only been one fatal axe incident throughout history!

They killed the 1st guy with a Karate chop?:eek:

Sea Sharp

Ah sure it'll be grand.
There's no oil in North Korea and they have zero relevence in the world economy.
There'll only be a war if the North start it, and even then they'll just get obliterated back to the stone age.

Sykk

The_Minister wrote: »

How would anti-nuclear devices protect against c18,000 artillery shells?

You don't need nukes to flatten a city - convential weapons can do a great job on their own.

Didn't read your post properly. 18,000... :eek:

ejmaztec

It was probably a starving North Korean border guard having a bit of craic firing two shots across the border, and having a bit of a laugh when three shots came back.

Biggins

bleg wrote: »

I bet this sort of thing happens every other week. Slow news day.

They are always reportedly taking pot shots at each other.
One mad bunch of lunatics up north there is.

topper75

It's dog eat dog out there, and more besides.

Seaneh

The_Minister wrote: »

North Korea has enough artillery pointed at South Korea's capital to wipe it out at any time.

Over 18,000 units AFAIR.

If things were that bad, a million people would be dead.

The closes point of N. Korea to Seoul is 35km (+2km of DMZ), I would find it very hard to believe that the north has anywhere near 18,000 guns with that sort of range in the entire country, never mind within range of Seoul. Unless you mean they has 18,000 missiles trained on Seoul, which again, I doubt.

Capt'n Midnight

Technically speaking the war is still on since there wasn't a peace treaty or somesuch.

People on both sides regularly get killed in boarder incidents. If you are only hearing about it now then it's just the spin doctors setting the agenda for some reason, or a slow news day .


Tricks used in the past were to move the boarder markers back a bit so patrols from the other side could be fired upon. Lots of twitchy trigger fingers on both sides.

Biggins

I coud be wrong but I think the border between the two countries is the one of the worst/most landmined in the world.

Yakult

When I read the title first I got the impressing that some pesky north korean lit a nice cozy fire on south Korea's land. Obviously I was wrong.

We should just nuke them along with the middle east. That would shut them up, just like the japs.

gonedrinking

R_H_C_P wrote: »

When I read the title first I got the impressing that some pesky north korean lit a nice cozy fire on south Korea's land. Obviously I was wrong.

We should just nuke them along with the middle east. That would shut them up, just like the japs.

I really wish someone would nuke em, I'm so sick of hearing about their little stunts every week or so. Its really pathetic, the phrase "small country dreaming" comes to mind. I really don't understand why they get such media attention.

wes

I wish we could deport all the people who want to nuke other people to an island, where they can engage in fist fights to decide who is king of there own private hell!!!

ScumLord

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I hope this doesn't kick off too early - there's a gig I want to go to tonight.

In Korea? I'd give it a miss.

RMD

wes wrote: »

I wish we could deport all the people who want to nuke other people to an island, where they can engage in fist fights to decide who is king of there own private hell!!!

Or just nuke them themselves for promoting the use of such weapons. Ye sure, let's obliterate a country within seconds, kill millions of people and turn 100,000s km2 into atomic wasteland.

Just for the lulz of course.

gonedrinking

sure why not, gotta nuke something

Killer Pigeon

Sykk wrote: »

North Korean and South Korean military units exchanged fire near their border Friday, the South Korean Yonhap news agency reported.

The exchange happened after North Korean forces fired two shots at a South Korean military guard post near the border in Hwacheon, South Korea, about 73 miles (118 km) northeast of Seoul, Yonhap reported, citing an official at the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The South Korean troops fired back, Yonhap said.[Original post] North Korea has fired toward a South Korean military unit near the border, the South Korean Yonhap news agency reported Friday.

CNN.com will bring you the latest updates as they become available.

Source

I will update this as it's updated on CNN.


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They were doing so well with negotiations. Guess the North will go back into their military shell for another 3 years then?

Hasn't this happened before over the last 30 years?

The_B_Man

Well the North and South never finished the war. My old Sth Korean housemate was telling me they're just "on a break" since 1956 or something.
He also said something along the lines of Nth Korea having more active soldiers, but Sth Korea having better technology/weapons.
I'd believe him as well, since everyone in the South has to do mandatory service over there so obviously he would've been immersed in that sorta talk.

ejmaztec

wes wrote: »

I wish we could deport all the people who want to nuke other people to an island, where they can engage in fist fights to decide who is king of there own private hell!!!

But they're already here, only they're too lazy to leave their keyboards for a punch-up.

OutlawPete

People making gags about something so serious and that could potentially end in hundreds of thousands of deaths.

That's After Hours for you, the forum with no seoul.

mikom

OutlawPete wrote: »

People making gags about something so serious and that could potentially end in hundreds of thousands of deaths.

That's After Hours for you, the forum with no seoul.

I make a Korea out of it.

Jimbob1977

The_B_Man wrote: »

Well the North and South never finished the war. My old Sth Korean housemate was telling me they're just "on a break" since 1956 or something.
He also said something along the lines of Nth Korea having more active soldiers, but Sth Korea having better technology/weapons.
I'd believe him as well, since everyone in the South has to do mandatory service over there so obviously he would've been immersed in that sorta talk.

Like Ross and Rachel in Friends?

Genghiz Cohen

The_B_Man wrote: »

He also said something along the lines of Nth Korea having more active soldiers, but Sth Korea having better technology/weapons.

Sounds like C&C Red Alert 2

Calibos

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Like Ross and Rachel in Friends?

Well I can see the 38th parallel alright

The_Minister

Biggins wrote: »

I coud be wrong but I think the border between the two countries is the one of the worst/most landmined in the world.

It is, but the fields containing landmines are well-marked.

The idea is not to surprise the enemy, but to force him to move into 'kill zones' where he can be butchered.

Even if you don't die, by the time you make your way through, America has time to get it's act together.

mikerowsopht

so wonely, so wonely - Kim Jung Il

Columbia

I'll only be impressed when someone manages to make a pun out of Pyongyang.

OctavarIan

What is this I don't even

mikom

Columbia wrote: »

I'll only be impressed when someone manages to make a pun out of Pyongyang.

"Pyongyang!" Pyongyanged Trent making a noise like a bullet ricocheting. "Pyongyang" to you too said the shopkeeper.

Manic Moran

youcancallme>al wrote: »

Sure the North Koreans killed an American soldier with an axe in 1976 and the Yanks did nothing about it!

No, the response was Operation Paul Bunyan, the most expensive tree-cutting operation in history. The country went to a war alert, squadrons of B-52s were put on hold outside North Korean airspace, and they tried again. 813 personnel were sent into the JSA to cut down the tree, including a half-company of ROKs trained in martial arts.

The tree was successfully eliminated.

The USA has enough problems recruiting people for their current military campaigns.

We do?

http://www.military.com/news/article/services-exceed-2010-recruiting-goals.html

The Pentagon said yesterday that all four branches met or exceeded their fiscal 2010 recruiting goals. The Army, with a goal of 75,500 new Soldiers, brought in 74,577. The Navy recruited 34,180 -- 40 more Sailors than goal. The Marine Corps exceeded its goal by 41 recruits, bringing in 28,041 new Marines. The Air Force took in 28,493 recruits for the year, well above the 28,360 goal it set.

I'm overstrength, I've been told I need to start shedding soldiers. By way of example, I'm only authorised three lieutenants, I've got seven.

The closes point of N. Korea to Seoul is 35km (+2km of DMZ), I would find it very hard to believe that the north has anywhere near 18,000 guns with that sort of range in the entire country, never mind within range of Seoul.

Agreed. The number I've seen is about 200 within range of any part of Seoul. However, it only takes a couple of dozen to start a mass panic within the city.

I coud be wrong but I think the border between the two countries is the one of the worst/most landmined in the world.

It is. Interestingly, it's also one of the best nature preserves in the world. The place isn't so badly mined that deer or whatever can't survive, and with the complete and total absence of human interference, there are a number of endangered species of plant and animal which are thriving there.

NTM