Foie Gras

thebigbiffo

As I sat at home last night with a slice of toast and not a sliver of cheese in the fridge to go with it i thought to myself: 'jaysus biffo, a lovely spread of foie gras paté on this now would go down like a 5 dollar hooker'...

then i got a pang of guilt for even thinking it...

that wouldnt matter a jot though - i'd still eat it if its in front of me because the stuff is fantastic.

i dont know much about the actual controversy surrounding the stuff or how cruel it actually is (i mean, most meat products involve the animal not being treated the best) - but people of AH, do YOU eat foie gras with a side helping of guilt?

pickarooney

I eat it with a nice glass of Sauternes.

AnonoBoy

I only eat foie gras when I'm wearing my baby seal slippers.

MickShamrock

I don't like Foie Gras, so I don't eat it.

enda1

Fois Gras is amazing!

No guilt with me.

mikom

thebigbiffo wrote: »

As I sat at home last night with a slice of toast and not a sliver of cheese in the fridge to go with it i thought to myself: 'jaysus biffo, a lovely spread of foie gras paté on this now would go down like a 5 dollar hooker'...

then i got a pang of guilt for even thinking it...

that wouldnt matter a jot though - i'd still eat it if its in front of me because the stuff is fantastic.

i dont know much about the actual controversy surrounding the stuff or how cruel it actually is (i mean, most meat products involve the animal not being treated the best) - but people of AH, do YOU eat foie gras with a side helping of guilt?

Quick, duck, the animal rights crowd are approaching.

Do hookers really work for so little???

Einhard

Feck it, eat the foie gras. Then eat the 5 dollar hooker.

thebigbiffo

Jake1 wrote: »

Do hookers really work for so little???

yes...search 'crack whore' in google...try avoid images

flyton5

Aren't they force fed and generally mistreated?


As for Foie Gras...dont know anything about it...

Gummy Panda

Never had it.

Describe its taste

jimi_t2

Force-feeding geese foie gras; now THAT'S opulence

harr

love it,i do get it in harvey nics when i am up that way its a hard thing to source down the country:). no guilt for me.

jester77

thebigbiffo wrote: »

As I sat at home last night with a slice of toast and not a sliver of cheese in the fridge to go with it i thought to myself: 'jaysus biffo, a lovely spread of foie gras paté on this now would go down like a 5 dollar hooker'...

then i got a pang of guilt for even thinking it...

that wouldnt matter a jot though - i'd still eat it if its in front of me because the stuff is fantastic.

i dont know much about the actual controversy surrounding the stuff or how cruel it actually is (i mean, most meat products involve the animal not being treated the best) - but people of AH, do YOU eat foie gras with a side helping of guilt?

I'd have guilt too if I was only paying a hooker 5 dollars!

AnonoBoy

mikom wrote: »

Quick, duck, the animal rights crowd are approaching.

Your goose is cooked if they catch you!

thebigbiffo

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Never had it.

Describe its taste

it's a really deep flavour, very rich. i've only ever had the paté so think normal goose liver paté except much more flavoursome.

basically the problem is the ducks or geese used to make it are forcibly fattened through force feeding (or whats called gavage)...

when i first heard about it i thought it was pretty sick, i pictured ducks penned and trussed up all day with a tube down their throat...in most cases though, each individual duck is fed once or twice a day by hand through insertion of the tube. essentially - the amount of food is built up gradually over a few weeks before slaughter to enlarge the liver to the max.

not particluarly appetizing - but god damn tasty!

The_Minister

I don't eat it.

I'm not big into animal rights, but it always struck me as gratuitously cruel.

FoxT

I dont eat hookers, regardless of their cost.

I will eat foie gras occasionally, and it is an enjoyable & guilt free experience.

Shenshen

thebigbiffo wrote: »

As I sat at home last night with a slice of toast and not a sliver of cheese in the fridge to go with it i thought to myself: 'jaysus biffo, a lovely spread of foie gras paté on this now would go down like a 5 dollar hooker'...

then i got a pang of guilt for even thinking it...

that wouldnt matter a jot though - i'd still eat it if its in front of me because the stuff is fantastic.

i dont know much about the actual controversy surrounding the stuff or how cruel it actually is (i mean, most meat products involve the animal not being treated the best) - but people of AH, do YOU eat foie gras with a side helping of guilt?

I found the side helpings of guilt too heavy to digest, so I've stopped eating meat.

thebigbiffo

Shenshen wrote: »

I found the side helpings of guilt too heavy to digest, so I've stopped eating meat.

altogther? like, even a burger has too much guilt for ya?

Shenshen

thebigbiffo wrote: »

altogther? like, even a burger has too much guilt for ya?

Pretty much, yes. It's called being vegetarian.

Kintarō Hattori

I had to Google what the hell it was so needless to say I've never eaten it.

thebigbiffo

Shenshen wrote: »

Pretty much, yes. It's called being vegetarian.

right smart arse, i was wondering whether your post was entirely serious...

and do ya not think 'pretty much, yes' is a fairly vague reponse...you either eat meat or ya dont

Pinturicchio

I've never had it but I would.

My name is URL

I've tried it and liked it but I wouldn't buy it. It's no nicer than duck liver paté and not really worth the extra cost, imo

sensibleken

mikom wrote: »

Quick, duck, the animal rights crowd are approaching.

Hello!

Finallly someone other than a waiter is scared of us

Silcocky

I love it....its pure indulgence but there is always a part of me that winces at the thought of it.
I do often apologise when I'm in company at the dinner table if others are offended, but go ahead and enjoy it none-the-less; same with steak - if others don't like theirs medium rare, thats grand, look at yer own dinner!

poochierockz

Einhard wrote: »

Feck it, eat the foie gras. Then eat the 5 dollar hooker.

or eat the foie gras on the 5 dollar hooker! .... shouldnt it be 5 euro hooker? 5 dollars would be cheaper though..

D1976

Force fed ducks with diseased over sized livers, mmmm sounds tasty :eek:

mikom

D1976 wrote: »

Force fed ducks with diseased over sized livers, mmmm sounds tasty :eek:

Looks like the average bordsie in front of their PC.

kraggy

Roger Moore, on behalf of PETA, explains what's involved in the making of foie gras.

I have no liking for Peta, and in fact, despise them in many ways, but there's no denying that what happens in the following video is standard. It is well documented.

Warning: The video is not for the sensitive. However, such videos need to be watched in my opinion, for it is the fact that we like to hide ourselves away from cruelty, that it continues to occur in every corner of the world to this day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32815SIgq1A

enda1

My name is URL wrote: »

I've tried it and liked it but I wouldn't buy it. It's no nicer than duck liver paté and not really worth the extra cost, imo

Its entirely different to a normal duck liver pate.
The fat content is enormous!

Have you had it "entier"? Meaning whole, like the whole liver not pate style?
Its ridiculously divine.

enda1

kraggy wrote: »

Roger Moore, on behalf of PETA, explains what's involved in the making of foie gras.

I have no liking for Peta, and in fact, despise them in many ways, but there's no denying that what happens in the following video is standard. It is well documented.

Fast forward to 2:00 of this video to see the pipe actually being shoved all the way down the birds's stomachs. And that's besides the fact that many geese, ducks etc never see the light of day.

Warning: The video is not for the sensitive. However, such videos need to be watched in my opinion, for it is the fact that we like to hide ourselves away from cruelty, that it continues to occur in every corner of the world to this day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32815SIgq1A

Ah boo hoo.

I don't find the practice cruel. Why try to put human emotions on stupid birds?

kraggy

enda1 wrote: »

Ah boo hoo.

I don't find the practice cruel. Why try to put human emotions on stupid birds?

Because they feel pain like you and I. How can you be cold to that? Or are you simply denying that they feel pain?

My name is URL

enda1 wrote: »

Its entirely different to a normal duck liver pate.
The fat content is enormous!

Have you had it "entier"? Meaning whole, like the whole liver not pate style?
Its ridiculously divine.

No, I've not tried it whole, not sure if I'd like the texture of it. I've only ever seen the pate version as a starter in restaurants.

enda1

kraggy wrote: »

Because they feel pain like you and I. How can you be cold to that? Or are you simply denying that they feel pain?

What do you mean by pain? My printer gives an error if the paper is forced in wrong. Would that be cruel too?

Pain as humans "feel" it is a complex combination between emotion and physical response. I don't believe it is equivalent to that felt by a dumb bird.

kraggy

enda1 wrote: »

What do you mean by pain? My printer gives an error if the paper is forced in wrong. Would that be cruel too?

Pain as humans "feel" it is a complex combination between emotion and physical response. I don't believe it is equivalent to that felt by a dumb bird.

That's one of the most ridiculous comparisons I've seen in a long time.

You're comparing an error message with the pain experienced by a bird? I can only presume you're trolling.

Animals feel pain and express this feeling through screaming and squealing like humans.

It's not debatable. It's fact.

Did you watch the whole video or just part of it?

enda1

kraggy wrote: »

That's one of the most ridiculous comparisons I've seen in a long time.

You're comparing an error message with the pain experienced by a bird? I can only presume you're trolling.

Animals feel pain and express this feeling through screaming and squealing like humans.

It's not debatable. It's fact.

Did you watch the whole video or just part of it?

And my printer expresses its discomfort with an error message. Would you prefer if it squawked.

What's your point?

kraggy

enda1 wrote: »

And my printer expresses its discomfort with an error message. Would you prefer if it squawked.

What's your point?

If you can't see my point, then you need to read my posts again, and your own.

You said "Pain as humans "feel" it is a complex combination between emotion and physical response. I don't believe it is equivalent to that felt by a dumb bird."

You don't believe that they're equivalent? How so? I say they are.

Read some Peter Singer. He's a Princeton professor and one of the most respected philosophers in the world. He says pain and intelligence are mutually exclusive. i.e. you don't have to be intelligent to feel pain:

http://www.animal-rights-library.com/texts-m/singer03.htm

Going by your criteria, it would be more justifiable to carry out laboratory tests on a child with a severe learning difficulty. Afterall, some of them are less intelliengent than, say, a chimp.

thebigbiffo

in fairness though - peta are only gonna show you the worst bits, the ones with the ducks hanging their heads in depression like humans do for the sake of making their subjects appeal more to our emotions.

it's not like it's cruelty for cruelty's sake, it's a tradtional way of preparing a particular type of food - all animals are treated badly to some extent when you're going to kill them for food

Einhard

kraggy wrote: »

Roger Moore, on behalf of PETA, explains what's involved in the making of foie gras.

I have no liking for Peta, and in fact, despise them in many ways, but there's no denying that what happens in the following video is standard. It is well documented.

Warning: The video is not for the sensitive. However, such videos need to be watched in my opinion, for it is the fact that we like to hide ourselves away from cruelty, that it continues to occur in every corner of the world to this day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32815SIgq1A

Ok, I'm gonna stick to the 5 dollar hookers from now on.

Tar.Aldarion

Nope, I'd be disgusted with myself for eating that, aim in life is to do a minimum of harm to animals, even though some will be done.

sensibleken

thebigbiffo wrote: »

it's not like it's cruelty for cruelty's sake, it's a tradtional way of preparing a particular type of food - all animals are treated badly to some extent when you're going to kill them for food

thats why im veggie as opposed to just avoiding the factory farmed stuff.

People either give a shít or they dont. In my experience if a vegie/vegan says something about their diet its 'being preachy', if a meat eater asks a veggie about their diet and they answer, then the veggie is also being preachy.

weird

enda1

kraggy wrote: »

If you can't see my point, then you need to read my posts again, and your own.

You said "Pain as humans "feel" it is a complex combination between emotion and physical response. I don't believe it is equivalent to that felt by a dumb bird."

You don't believe that they're equivalent? How so? I say they are.

Read some Peter Singer. He's a Princeton professor and one of the most respected philosophers in the world. He says pain and intelligence are mutually exclusive. i.e. you don't have to be intelligent to feel pain:

http://www.animal-rights-library.com/texts-m/singer03.htm

Going by your criteria, it would be more justifiable to carry out laboratory tests on a child with a severe learning difficulty. Afterall, some of them are less intelliengent than, say, a chimp.

You chose a vegan philosopher to decide for you a question of neurological response?

Do you go to the mechanic too when you have pains in your chest??

My printer is not intelligent and it feels your concept of "pain" - that of a physical nature.
How can you not understand this analogy??

I think we just have a different definition of pain. Pain for you is a physical thing. For me it is physical and emotional. Without the emotional side there is no cruelty in my opinion (assuming the action is being administered by a person not for the pleasure of the action).

To start debating lab testing of disabled children is another subject entirely - one probably left to the humanities forum. Could be a bad precedent to set for a number of reasons - one being that we are still quite a ways from understanding the full complexity of the concept of intelligence and how its many facets are impaired by various illnesses/retardations.

We do however take living organs from living humans to use in transplantation.

Pookah

I've tried the duck foie gras, with rhubarb and strawberry compote, on brioche, the odd time I've dined at the Pearl Brasserie, in town. It's melt in the mouth gorgeous, and almost makes the suffering worthwhile.

Osgoodisgood

It's only cruel if someone takes my plate away before I'm finished.

Gunsfortoys

kraggy wrote: »

Roger Moore, on behalf of PETA, explains what's involved in the making of foie gras.

I have no liking for Peta, and in fact, despise them in many ways, but there's no denying that what happens in the following video is standard. It is well documented.

Warning: The video is not for the sensitive. However, such videos need to be watched in my opinion, for it is the fact that we like to hide ourselves away from cruelty, that it continues to occur in every corner of the world to this day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32815SIgq1A

Tough to watch.

Never tried it, will never try it now.

Wish I could stop eating meat.

Shenshen

enda1 wrote: »

And my printer expresses its discomfort with an error message. Would you prefer if it squawked.

What's your point?

Unless your printer is amazingly developed, it has neither nerves nor a brain.

Mr Benevolent

Load of bollocks. Animal rights activists cry their hearts out at a dead duck yet walk by badly suffering homeless people without a care in the world. Sheer hypocrisy.

sensibleken

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

Tough to watch.

Never tried it, will never try it now.

Wish I could stop eating meat.

give it a go. its quite an easy diet to maintain, and cheap. there is a vegan vegitarian forum on boards with recipies and stuff

AnonoBoy

Confab wrote: »

Load of bollocks. Animal rights activists cry their hearts out at a dead duck yet walk by badly suffering homeless people without a care in the world. Sheer hypocrisy.

Especially those homeless that they forcefeed in sheds out in Clondalkin.


Nobody else heard about them? No? Just me?