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Why do TV3 broadcast in 4:3?

  • 21-10-2010 5:12pm
    #1
    The Sparrow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭


    As the title says, why do TV3 and 3e broadcast so much in 4:3 instead of widescreen like every other channel? It is really irritating and I can't think of any good reason for it. Any time I've watched any of their homegrown programmes it is in 4:3 and Napoli v Liverpool is also in 4:3 at the moment on 3e.


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  • #2
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    It's not exactly 4:3. It is just that TV3 can't be arsed to sort out the auto switching for the aspect ratio. For the match tonight it was a 16:9 picture in a 4:3 frame. It is disgraceful that they have left it go on this long.


  • #3
    JDxtra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    TV3 are technically incompetent. If they have their own engineers, they clearly don't even watch the channels.


  • #4
    Pat Gleeson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Pat Gleeson


    TV 3 didn't even have the decency to reply to an email I posted about 3e's permanent 4:3 aspect ratio. Presumably because they don't have a clue what auto aspect ratio switching is.:(


  • #5
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    All Analogue transmission are 16:9 ratio but broadcast in a 4:3 aspect holder??? Sorry thats a bad discription.

    3e and TG4 are always 4:3 on UPC is this the case on Sky?


  • #6
    JDxtra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Elmo wrote: »
    3e and TG4 are always 4:3 on UPC is this the case on Sky?
    3e - yes.
    TG4 - no.


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  • #7
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Just turned on 3e's subtitling Jeremy Kyle show during FYI????


  • #8
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    The way TV3 and 3e are doing things is that they're broadcasting in anamorphic widescreen but not setting the WSS flag to 16:9 for widescreen programming. Therefore the TV or box assumes it's receiving a 4:3 signal so passes the picture through as is. If it was flagged as 16:9 the receiver would either letterbox it, crop it or stretch it out, depending on what TV type is configured.


  • #9
    joolsthedog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 ✭joolsthedog


    Fully agree with this sentiment, cheapskate & two bit operation are the words that describe them best. They should never be given any support considering how they jumped the gun on Brian Lenihan's illness - unforgiveable


  • #10
    Propellerhead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 394 ✭✭Propellerhead


    The Sparrow wrote: »
    As the title says, why do TV3 and 3e broadcast so much in 4:3 instead of widescreen like every other channel? It is really irritating and I can't think of any good reason for it. Any time I've watched any of their homegrown programmes it is in 4:3 and Napoli v Liverpool is also in 4:3 at the moment on 3e.

    TV3 employees must have their Sky boxes at home set to 4:3 and watch everything in Stretchyvision on their 50" plasma sets :D

    That's the only explanation that I can think of why their broadcasting standards are so technically inept


  • #11
    Elmo
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    It seems to me that TV3's in-house shows are in 4:3 while the rest are in 16:9. Am I wrong? Also notice that Dr. Phil is in 4:3 on RTÉ One. Must stop watching daytime TV :mad:


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  • #12
    Rick_
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    Dr Phil is cheap daytime filler for RTÉ ONE, I doubt they'll want to spend the money obtaining a 16:9 version considering the minute ratings it's probably getting.


  • #13
    Elmo
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    Paddy C wrote: »
    Dr Phil is cheap daytime filler for RTÉ ONE, I doubt they'll want to spend the money obtaining a 16:9 version considering the minute ratings it's probably getting.

    Well I find him inspiring :rolleyes:

    Are you suggesting that TV3 in-house productions are purely cheap daytime fillers so that TV3 can meet their daily requirements?:D


  • #14
    mcwhirter
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    TV3 going 16:9 next week allegedly


  • #15
    Rick_
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    Elmo wrote: »
    Well I find him inspiring :rolleyes:

    Are you suggesting that TV3 in-house productions are purely cheap daytime fillers so that TV3 can meet their daily requirements?:D
    I never suggested such a thing.... ;)
    mcwhirter wrote: »
    TV3 going 16:9 next week allegedly
    I'll believe it when I see it. Where did you hear that anyway?


  • #16
    Pat Gleeson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Pat Gleeson


    mcwhirter wrote: »
    TV3 going 16:9 next week allegedly

    Did TV3 say that ? Do they know what 16:9 is ? :D


  • #17
    will1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭will1977


    Sorry for hijacking this but does anyone know why Sky sports news channel
    since it has had its revamp doen't fit in the screen anymore. Not just on my tv but have heard loads of people with the same problem ?? Thanks


  • #18
    mcwhirter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭mcwhirter


    will1977 wrote: »
    Sorry for hijacking this but does anyone know why Sky sports news channel
    since it has had its revamp doen't fit in the screen anymore. Not just on my tv but have heard loads of people with the same problem ?? Thanks

    I have noticed that too, it's seems to be since they went HD.


  • #19
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    mcwhirter wrote: »
    I have noticed that too, it's seems to be since they went HD.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056008747


  • #20
    mcwhirter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭mcwhirter


    Elmo wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056008747

    My satellite box is set for 16:9 but ssn picture is too big for screen.


  • #21
    Elmo
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    mcwhirter wrote: »
    My satellite box is set for 16:9 but ssn picture is too big for screen.

    Is your TV 16:9? You will need to post in the other thread, they prob know better.


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  • #22
    johnmcdnl
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    what do you guys even watch on tv3 :confused:


  • #23
    MyKeyG
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    Pat Gleeson wrote: »
    Did TV3 say that ? Do they know what 16:9 is ? :D
    I'm watching TV3 right now and it's 16:9.

    <EDIT>Sorry I just noticed the OP was asking about home grown programming.


  • #24
    Pat Gleeson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Pat Gleeson


    MyKeyG wrote: »
    I'm watching TV3 right now and it's 16:9.

    TV3 have been broadcasting some imports, ads, stings, promos etc. for a few years now, but home produced stuff (IrelandAM, Vincent Browne etc.) is still 4:3 - as for 3e .....


  • #25
    rurs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭rurs


    Also, studio shots (not graphics etc.) have a thin grey vertical bar down the right hand side on DTT...what's that all about???


  • #26
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    3e seems to be broadcasting on Saorview in 16:9 for Jeremy Kyle. :confused:


  • #27
    [Deleted User]
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    Elmo wrote: »
    3e seems to be broadcasting on Saorview in 16:9 for Jeremy Kyle. :confused:

    It seems to be the complete opposite to Sky, the 16:9 flag is permanently set. Family Guy is being flagged as 16:9.


  • #28
    NellyMcD
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    It appears TV3 is now fully 16:9


  • #29
    Pat Gleeson
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    NellyMcD wrote: »
    It appears TV3 is now fully 16:9
    It does indeed -as for 3e .... :D


  • #30
    Rick_
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    4:3 programmes on 3e are flagged as 16:9 so they are streched. Friends earlier this evening was anyway. At least they show the episodes uncut. IT would be nice if programmes were flagged correctly... but then again... this is TV 3 we're talking about.


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  • #31
    mcwhirter
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    Paddy C wrote: »
    4:3 programmes on 3e are flagged as 16:9 so they are streched. Friends earlier this evening was anyway. At least they show the episodes uncut. IT would be nice if programmes were flagged correctly... but then again... this is TV 3 we're talking about.

    If or when 3e go onto DTT after tests , it will be interesting if they sort out the program ratio problem. As they will have 100% coverage and many more people will be watching and complaining about the lazy technical issues, that could be easily sorted out.


  • #32
    Sam Russell
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    mcwhirter wrote: »
    As they will have 100% coverage and many more people will be watching and complaining about the lazy technical issues, that could be easily sorted out.

    You assume they have a technical dept that can sort out thechnical issues.


  • #33
    mcwhirter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭mcwhirter


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    You assume they have a technical dept that can sort out thechnical issues.

    I hope


  • #34
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    mcwhirter wrote: »
    I hope


    I imagine that their technical department is the goons from Ireland AM


  • #35
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Looked at the broadcast of the press confrence to day, the green seemed to by flickering, same feed as RTÉ One ??????


  • #36
    barnicles
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    After watching Vincent Browne, and Ireland AM, it appears that they are now broadcasting homegrown progamming in 16:9, and 14:9 as normal on analog.


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