The German Christmas Market may not now happen in Galway

dolphin city

because the organisers want a Beer Keller which is in essence an open air bar serving hot port, and mulled wine, which is all part and parcel of the christmas markets in European cities.

they probably don't understand that once alcohol is involved the locals tend to go crazy drinking, bringing their own buckfast, causing trouble and probably smashing the place to bits. We are definitely NOT like our European counterparts when it comes to sipping wine, or sipping mulled wine while walking round a market.

a wino's haven.

yeehaw

You are an awful dose.

paulusdu

There has been a German Market up in Dublin for the last few years, nothing has been smashed, apart from the odd dropped mug of mulled wine. There has been no trouble, they open earlyish and close early too. I have never once seen a bit of trouble there.
Galway will be no different.
It would be great to have one in Galway, i'd definatly bring my kids into it.

Dunjohn

dolphin city wrote: »

a wino's haven.

That'll leave Eyre Square free for the rest of us then.

magentas

the title said the market may not go ahead now...I was expecting a news story or some link suggesting as much...is this just your wish opinion and it is in actual fact still going ahead?

Morlar

The Mulled wine & beer tent at Belfast city hall christmas market is also trouble free in my experience.

dolphin city

magentas wrote: »

the title said the market may not go ahead now...I was expecting a news story or some link suggesting as much...is this just your wish opinion and it is in actual fact still going ahead?

its nothing to do with me - it was in the Independent yesterday - y'know the free Galway newspaper that comes directly to your house. I was just passing on the message for those who don't receive/too lazy to read the Indo. :D:D

dolphin city

here it is

http://www.galwayindependent.com/local-news/local-news/stalled/

sorry if I am not allowed to do this.

Robbo

For you Fritz, the festive season is over?

Xiney

Wasn't there open air beer at the Volvo Ocean race? I don't recall any problems during that... in fact, quite the opposite... everyone was in such a good mood and everyone was a lot more polite than I'd ever seen them, it made me proud of Galway.

Since they'll probably be charging at least a tenner per mug of mulled wine (Refills being a bit cheaper and a mug return to get some money back if you don't want the souvenir - They charge a bit less on the continent which is what I'm basing this on) I doubt anyone is gonna get sloshed on it. Unless they bring a naggin of something themselves... and they could do that anytime.

ScumLord

dolphin city wrote: »

they probably don't understand that once alcohol is involved the locals tend to go crazy drinking, bringing their own buckfast, causing trouble and probably smashing the place to bits. We are definitely NOT like our European counterparts when it comes to sipping wine, or sipping mulled wine while walking round a market.

I think this is ridiculous, fair enough when we go out for a pint it can turn into 15 pints but we don't break down into alcoholic messes every time we're within 10 feet of alcohol. Mulled wine is rotten, you only drink it at Christmas to warm up. If the guards did their job, which would involve just standing or patrolling that area to deter scumbags.

dolphin city

Xiney wrote: »

Wasn't there open air beer at the Volvo Ocean race? I don't recall any problems during that... in fact, quite the opposite... everyone was in such a good mood and everyone was a lot more polite than I'd ever seen them, it made me proud of Galway.

Since they'll probably be charging at least a tenner per mug of mulled wine (Refills being a bit cheaper and a mug return to get some money back if you don't want the souvenir - They charge a bit less on the continent which is what I'm basing this on) I doubt anyone is gonna get sloshed on it. Unless they bring a naggin of something themselves... and they could do that anytime.

they won't be giving out mugs - (if it goes ahead). It will be plastic all the way.

Xiney

dolphin city wrote: »

they won't be giving out mugs - (if it goes ahead). It will be plastic all the way.

Well then I'm not going.

I was only going to go to get a mug.

ScumLord

Xiney wrote: »

Well then I'm not going.

I was only going to go to get a mug.

You could go and call people mugs instead, that's fun too.

magentas

dolphin city wrote: »

its nothing to do with me - it was in the Independent yesterday - y'know the free Galway newspaper that comes directly to your house. I was just passing on the message for those who don't receive/too lazy to read the Indo. :D:D

so you think I'm too lazy to read the paper but I'll come on-line and ask for a link to read it?
Doesn't make sense really does it?
There was no source so I thought it was your opinion because it sounded so negative:p

So it's the guards that are trying to throw a spanner in the works
Jesus they make us sound like completely uncivilized muck-savages!

dreenman

Why do we want to have one of these awful, commercial, plastic German markets anyway? They are all the same - full of cinammon smelling tat and large sausages. Nothing to do with Christmas.

Why dont we let our local traders/ craftsmen / farmers markets etc have use of Eyre square for a couple of weeks.

dolphin city

magentas wrote: »

so you think I'm too lazy to read the paper but I'll come on-line and ask for a link to read it?
Doesn't make sense really does it?
There was no source so I thought it was your opinion because it sounded so negative:p

So it's the guards that are trying to throw a spanner in the works
Jesus they make us sound like completely uncivilized muck-savages!

well if you are ever in town early on a sunday morning you would be inclined to agree with them.

so I'm negative am I - or am I just stating a fact - I remember one mug that started dissing "negative" people, telling them they should go off and commit suicide...........turned out they were only telling the truth after all. Can you name that mug?? :rolleyes:

Xiney

dreenman wrote: »

Why do we want to have one of these awful, commercial, plastic German markets anyway? They are all the same - full of cinammon smelling tat and large sausages. Nothing to do with Christmas.

Why dont we let out local traders/ craftsmen / farmers markets etc have use of Eyre square for a couple of weeks.

But I like large sausages

c_man

The German Christmas Market may not now happen in Galway

Good.

There's all sorts of arguments against it, but I for one will be glad if Eyre Square is kept for the people. I love nothing more than my Christmas morning walk, seeing the place all empty.

Wasn't looking forward to being faced with a barbed wire fence with guard towers opening fire on attempted tresspassers.

dreenman

Xiney wrote: »

But I like large sausages

My size doesnt matter argument has never really rung true.

There was a guy that used to sell Large Sauages from a van around the Ballyvaughan, Bellharbour, Kinvara area I'm sure he would be up for an IRISH Christmas Market in Eyre square .... Actually come to think of it he was German!

snubbleste

Size does matter, you tend to get more pork for your dollar
but galway is not germany so the market idea is a bit too much imho

dolphin city

dreenman wrote: »

Why do we want to have one of these awful, commercial, plastic German markets anyway? They are all the same - full of cinammon smelling tat and large sausages. Nothing to do with Christmas.

Why dont we let our local traders/ craftsmen / farmers markets etc have use of Eyre square for a couple of weeks.

oh, I thought they would be selling wooden stuff, and big sausages, not plastic stuff and big sausages.

they won't let the local traders have access to eyre square because people would say "thats not new" and they wouldn't be inclined to go there. A bit like their brainwave of "if we call the quay street area the latin quarter, people will fall for this sh*t and they will flock to the place and spend all their hard earned money" (snigger).

The local traders are just too........................local !!

they think we are all FOOLS.

dolphin city

snubbleste wrote: »

Size does matter, you tend to get more pork for your dollar
but galway is not germany so the market idea is a bit too much imho

and the dollar is not our currencey either.

snubbleste

dollar is just a generic term for fiat currency, fundamentally worthless paper that has been assigned an agreed value

snubbleste

There used to be lots of market traders in eyre square up until recent years, when the Council either banned them or made it prohibitive to trade

dolphin city

snubbleste wrote: »

dollar is just a generic term for fiat currency, fundamentally worthless paper that has been assigned an agreed value

i thought fiat was car? Is it a german car? will they be selling them at the german market in eyre square - will you have to pay in dollars?? so many questions.

magentas

dolphin city wrote: »

well if you are ever in town early on a sunday morning you would be inclined to agree with them.

so I'm negative am I - or am I just stating a fact - I remember one mug that started dissing "negative" people, telling them they should go off and commit suicide...........turned out they were only telling the truth after all. Can you name that mug?? :rolleyes:

huh? you've lost me

anyways cheers for the link

flugel

Bloody cops afraid of a little extra work. Not that it'd be my cup of tea but it would be a great boost to the city and a disgrace if it doesn't go ahead.

dolphin city

magentas wrote: »

huh? you've lost me

anyways cheers for the link

ah magentas - just as I thought - if you don't know what I am talking about then maybe you either don't bother with current affairs are you ARE too lazy to pick up a paper - even the dogs on the street know the answer. :D

MazG

c_man wrote: »

Good.

There's all sorts of arguments against it, but I for one will be glad if Eyre Square is kept for the people. I love nothing more than my Christmas morning walk, seeing the place all empty.

Wasn't looking forward to being faced with a barbed wire fence with guard towers opening fire on attempted tresspassers.

Well when I lived in Manchester, the Christmas markets had all packed up and left by the 22nd or so of Dec, so your Christmas morning walk need not be hindered.

What I don't understand about the Garda objection is that it sounds like they've done no research on what happens in other cities where Christmas Markets take place. For example, the markets I've been to in Belfast and Manchester were set up so that there were only X amounts of entrances and exits and at each one, there were stewards making sure that people did not leave the market area with their drinks. From what I've read in the Galway Independant, it seems that the Guards are imagining that it will be a giant bushing session in Eyre Square.

markesmith

snubbleste wrote: »

Size does matter, you tend to get more pork for your dollar
but galway is not germany so the market idea is a bit too much imho

Aw come on...Lidl, Aldi...and we've got enough US businesses around as well.

Having seen the Xmas markets in Prague and Vienna, I think it's a nice touch. Doesn't matter that we're not Germanic people. There are a lot of German people in Galway, and they had a large hand in setting up the original Galway market.

dolphin city

markesmith wrote: »

Aw come on...Lidl, Aldi...and we've got enough US businesses around as well.

Having seen the Xmas markets in Prague and Vienna, I think it's a nice touch. Doesn't matter that we're not Germanic people. There are a lot of German people in Galway, and they had a large hand in setting up the original Galway market.

what do you mean - they had a large part in setting up the original Galway market?

kelly1939

"the locals" don't go crazy all the time.

magentas

dolphin city wrote: »

ah magentas - just as I thought - if you don't know what I am talking about then maybe you either don't bother with current affairs are you ARE too lazy to pick up a paper - even the dogs on the street know the answer. :D

I don't know what you're on about
maybe you could try speaking english instead of speaking in riddles and trying to make yourself sound intelligent

I'm talking about the christmas market here. Is it related to that?

If not please clarify

Or does anybody else "get it"?

Xiney

dolphin city wrote: »

they won't let the local traders have access to eyre square because people would say "thats not new" and they wouldn't be inclined to go there.

Well in fairness, if it was just the same crowd selling awful rainbow knitted hats and cheap trinkets imported from indonesia etc. then I wouldn't be inclined to go either.

But I think the local food stalls (cheese and preserves sellers, the bakeries, etc) should be allowed.

PopeBuckfastXVI

magentas wrote: »

I don't know what you're on about
maybe you could try speaking english instead of speaking in riddles and trying to make yourself sound intelligent

I'm talking about the christmas market here. Is it related to that?

If not please clarify

Or does anybody else "get it"?

He's talking about Bertie Ahern wondering aloud if cribbers, moaners and naysayers about the property bubble shouldn't just off themselves to save themselves from their crippling property depression.

Nothing to do with Christmas markets...

dolphin city

magentas wrote: »

I don't know what you're on about
maybe you could try speaking english instead of speaking in riddles and trying to make yourself sound intelligent

I'm talking about the christmas market here. Is it related to that?

If not please clarify

Or does anybody else "get it"?

i don't see any riddles in my posts.

dolphin city

magentas wrote: »

so you think I'm too lazy to read the paper but I'll come on-line and ask for a link to read it?
Doesn't make sense really does it?
There was no source so I thought it was your opinion because it sounded so negative:p

So it's the guards that are trying to throw a spanner in the works
Jesus they make us sound like completely uncivilized muck-savages!

popebuckfast "gets it"

it was you that brought up the negativity vibe magentas and remarking about me saying that people might be too lazy to read the paper. Just wanted to know if you kept up with current affairs and just missed this story, or do you not keep up with whats going on at all - no need to reply tho - you've already answered my question. :D

now back to the Christmas markets.

magentas

oh right, you were talking about mugs and suicide which translates to bertie and property.
See I was just talking about the market and asking for a possible link which you eventually supplied and I thanked you for.

Don't know why you went so off topic with something so irrelevant
You might try to stay on topic and if you want to blow on about politics or property take it to relevant forums

good man

inisboffin

Not to be alcohol-type-ist, but didn't I read somewhere that the beer Keller would have port, mulled wine, and 17 different types of beer?
Now a hot toddy is lovely to sip and shop with (if you know who to ask at the regular Market, you could get sorted in the past ) but the beer thing may be overkill. A lot of people
in a small space with beer and kids? I am torn on it tbh.

@ Xiney, odd though it may seem, a lot of the little import stalls selling oddities (some rubbish, some not) are the only place you used to be able to get such stuff, before the bigger chains moved in. People liked (and some still do) buying odd hats for their Dad in the Market, along with their cheese, veg, etc. It was kind of a tradition in itself. Sometimes you would get wonderful jewellery and fabric from traders too, stuff you couldn't get elsewhere in a regular shop, even in Ireland. As I have gotten older, I way more appreciate the value of local crafts etc, but see that some people still love the kitch stuff like glass bangles from India.

I'd love to see a percentage of the Christmas Market be for local produce only - and it may already be in the Sat Market, the rules have changed a lot since I did the stalls with friends there.

dolphin city

magentas wrote: »

oh right, you were talking about mugs and suicide which translates to bertie and property.
See I was just talking about the market and asking for a possible link which you eventually supplied and I thanked you for.

Don't know why you went so off topic with something so irrelevant
You might try to stay on topic and if you want to blow on about politics or property take it to relevant forums

good man

how do you know I am a man? :rolleyes:

dolphin city

magentas wrote: »

oh right, you were talking about mugs and suicide which translates to bertie and property.
See I was just talking about the market and asking for a possible link which you eventually supplied and I thanked you for.

Don't know why you went so off topic with something so irrelevant
You might try to stay on topic and if you want to blow on about politics or property take it to relevant forums

good man

how do you know I am a man? :rolleyes:

swine

Your OP did look like vague speculation, it would have been helpful to link it originally or even reference that it was a story. Especially seeing as it's a Galway Independent 'exclusive'. Not everyone reads each and every Galway city paper.

odnauq

swine wrote: »

Your OP did look like vague speculation, it would have been helpful to link it originally or even reference that it was a story. Especially seeing as it's a Galway Independent 'exclusive'. Not everyone reads each and every Galway city paper.

This same issue had a story claiming the seats in Eyre Square Park are toxic, very toxic!
I want a nice Xmas Market with mulled wine and all the trimmings, yeah!

dolphin city

apologies - I have just read back all the posts on this thread and I do have to admit that my sarcasm has kind of come across as being narky and negative. I am a very sarcastic person (in a funny way) but I think the translations gets lost between the spoken word and the written word - so apologies if I came across as a nark especially to you magenta. :D

skelliser

They want the sell 17 different types of beer as well!!
Sounds like a challenge!!

In all fairness the mulled wine is grand but selling pints is not a good idea. And the locals do go crazy when drink is involved, you need only look at the state of people and the town on the nite of the guiness arthurs day nonsense a few weeks ago.

Im sorry to say that we are a nation of muck-savages when it comes to drinking.

magentas

dolphin city wrote: »

apologies - I have just read back all the posts on this thread and I do have to admit that my sarcasm has kind of come across as being narky and negative. I am a very sarcastic person (in a funny way) but I think the translations gets lost between the spoken word and the written word - so apologies if I came across as a nark especially to you magenta. :D

no worries.
might see you at the market for a plastic cup of mulled wine:D

Around Eyre Square you can get alcohol in:

Richardson's (+off license)
Fibbers
O'Connell's
Garvey's
Foxes
the train station
The Meyrick
Fagans
The Skeff
The Imperial
Dunnes off license
Club K
Cuba + off license
Paddy's

You could probably add another dozen places if you go out 200 meters from the square.

I think the Guards just want an excuse not to have even more crowds, traffic, pickpockets to police than a normal Christmas brings.

One more place to get alcohol won't make a difference.

flugel

Deleted User wrote: »

I think the Guards just want an excuse not to have even more crowds, traffic, pickpockets to police than a normal Christmas brings.

One more place to get alcohol won't make a difference.

+1

Lazy guards is what this is all about

deargas

Did we really need to get an English company to come over and show us in Galway how to setup / run a market? I read this story a few weeks ago and was pretty sickened with the deal clincher by the birdman; 'they have guaranteed to use local services for all the waste disposal' What a coup.

Isn't there a brilliant market community already established in Galway, which could easily be scaled into a full scale Christmas market, run by the people of Galway, for the city of galway, and actually generate much needed revenue for the nearly bankrupt Galway city council? Or is this just toooo outlandish an idea? I suppose so.

dolphin city

deargas wrote: »

Did we really need to get an English company to come over and show us in Galway how to setup / run a market? I read this story a few weeks ago and was pretty sickened with the deal clincher by the birdman; 'they have guaranteed to use local services for all the waste disposal' What a coup.

Isn't there a brilliant market community already established in Galway, which could easily be scaled into a full scale Christmas market, run by the people of Galway, for the city of galway, and actually generate much needed revenue for the nearly bankrupt Galway city council? Or is this just toooo outlandish an idea? I suppose so.

my opinion is that the galway market no matter how great it is and how great an atmosphere there is there, is not a "new " market so they are not interested in developing THAT into a christmas market. They want something "new" so that everybody will rush to it to spend their money because of the fact that it is NEW.

The Galway market is unique and should be the market that is being promoted but they don't want that. They want to fool us into parting with money at the "new" market.