Should We Upgrade are Military And weapons?

RobitTV

Lads do you think Its time to Upgrade our weapons and Our military force? (Well defence force)

Biggins

Are you for real? What the hell for? To fight off the cold?

R0ot

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starbelgrade

Another classic RobitTV thread.

flyton5

No. It'll cost too much. Slap yourself in the face for even thinking that...


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Kasabian

Only the Navy, them fecking Spanish are stealing our fish.

hangedhitman

i think we should upgrade the whole army buy proper fighters attack and transport aircraft for the air corps get proper tanks for the army

maxxie

For what! Why even have a defense force! Waste of money! Do **** all here and **** all on tour..

Gran Hermano

RobitTV wrote: »

Lads do you think Its time to Upgrade our weapons and Our military force? (Well defence force)

Absolutley, we can not have foreigners invading and pludering our national debt.

Seriously, who would want this place?

rossie1977

our navy should be upgraded yes, we have over 1,000 miles of coastline and a few rusty ships to defend against smuggling, illegal fishing in our waters and search/rescue operations

Conor108

Here we go.........

Kasabian

Schools and hospitals first.

Duggy747

All of your potato are belong to us.

JohnathanM

Biggins wrote: »

Are you for real? What the hell for? To fight off the cold?

As it stands now, we couldn't fight off an army of marauding hamsters and for any real threat will have to beg other countries for help. Neutrality's worth nothing if you can't fight for it. Ask the Swiss.

I personally think that one of the biggest mistakes this country made was refusing military bases under the auspices of NATO. That would have generated a stunning amount of industry in its support, and kept a few people at home instead of them having to leave for work elsewhere. Militarisation leads to lucrative business, generally, and it should be encouraged.

Gary4279

maxxie wrote: »

For what! Why even have a defense force! Waste of money! Do **** all here and **** all on tour..

Stupid post, in times of political upheaval every county needs a defence force to ward of invasion. A deterant more so.

Also, the army do more, such as cash in transits, protect presedents ect...

Should only upgrade the navy for fish stock protection and to catch drug smugglers.

starbelgrade

Ireland's already full of weapons.

curlzy

No, I think we should use that money to get a giant saw and go down and detach Ireland from the earth and then get a load of tugboats and drag Ireland to the Caribbean.

DERICKOO

no yes definitely no, you want to know why? we make money as is from UN deployment, we are a small country, we already kicked out the British no I have nought against the UK some of my best friends are British and you have at least 500-800 ex special forces in Eire now with Irish citizenship.
we have been neutral and last time we signed the Lisbon treaty well that's history now.

weird question???

Son Of A Vidic

Kasabian wrote: »

Only the Navy, them fecking Spanish are stealing our fish.

I reckon all the fish have been cleaned out by now.

chughes

I wonder how many supercarriers we could get for the navy with the money being pumped down the Anglo Irish Bank toilet ?

Probably a whole fleet.

maxwell smart

You know what we need? A few Trident subs, that will sort out the Spanish fishermen. I think we could get them cheap off the Brits with the correct offer. We should send over a crack team of negotiators for the government. (Cowen and Coughlan perhaps?):D

questionmark?

No major upgrade needed for the defence forces just make sure funds are there to keep getting upgrades as they are needed.

However the navy needs a huge investment. We dont have enough boats to protect our coast against drug smuggling and those Spanish other nations stealing our fish.

RayM

RobitTV wrote: »

Lads do you think Its time to Upgrade our weapons and Our military force? (Well defence force)

No. Our you serious?

OPENROAD

And here is me thinking the country is broke

rossie1977

chughes wrote: »

I wonder how many supercarriers we could get for the navy with the money being pumped down the Anglo Irish Bank toilet ?

Probably a whole fleet.

a nuclear powered aircraft carrier will set you back about $6 billion so yeah we could have a fleet of em

RobitTV

Kasabian wrote: »

Only the Navy, them fecking Spanish are stealing our fish.

Lets have a look at a British Trident Nuclear missile Submarine. Buy a few of them from the UK And THEN Lets see the spanish Try and rob our fish.
picture here

maxxie

Gary4279 wrote: »

Stupid post, in times of political upheaval every county needs a defence force to ward of invasion. A deterant more so.

Also, the army do more, such as cash in transits, protect presedents ect...

Should only upgrade the navy for fish stock protection and to catch drug smugglers.

We would rely on outside help for anything more than carrying out cash in transits!
We sold our souls to europe so their army is now yours! While were at it lets scrap the air corps! Its embarrasing watching them fly their spitfires!

Sticky_Fingers

RobitTV wrote: »

Lets have a look at a British Trident Nuclear missile Submarine. Lets see the spanish rob Our fish then.
picture here

Here's a much better picture of the what owning such an awesome machine would mean for the country

http://www.trainfortopdollar.com/trainfortopdollar/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/joker-burning-money-in-tdk.jpg

The Aussie

what the Free Clothing Association is running out of hard men shirts :eek:

Ross_Mahon

I think we have better things to be spending money on

questionmark?

The Aussie wrote: »

what the Free Clothing Association is running out of hard men shirts :eek:

Get with the times and think of a something new. It's being called the RDF since about 05/06.

arybvtcw0eolkf

maxxie wrote: »

For what! Why even have a defense force! Waste of money! Do **** all here and **** all on tour..

Seriously, wtf protects you and have protected you from the worse internal security threat in Europe since WWII?.

Who patrols your shores in the fight against drug inportation? and during out recent 'troubles' patrolled the shores against arm's shipments?.

Who defuses the now daily pipe bombs?.. I wish the army press office released the true figures for these incidents.

We do f'all oversea's?.. Get fvcking real.. do some research on the humanitarian work we've done everywhere we went. Or when we brought Charles Taylor (Liberia / blood diamonds) to trial, and ran the hospice in Bidoa (somalia) almost singled handedly. Search for our record on the Tibnine orphange in Lebanon.

We do all this, and a lot more whilst our government spends the least amount of money on defence than any other European nation..

Oh, almost forgot - aid to the civil powers.. You haven't a damned clue on your sh*t talking about.

Cheap Thrills!

Anderson Tasty Tarp wrote: »

Who patrols your shores in the fight against drug inportation?

I dunno :cool: but if I ever get my hands on 'em ......WHY I OUGHTTAA!!!!

The Aussie

questionmark? wrote: »

RDF since about 05/06.

what the poms are back, the ROYAL DEFENCE FORCE, im going to bed, they might be gone come morning.

Seaneh

In reply to the OP.

No, we shouldn't, we have no need to.
We are EU members and we are neutral, who the **** is going to try and invade us? Cope the feck on, we can't even afford to keep hospitals open why the feck would we need to upgrade our military? who's going to invade us, Iceland?!

Biggins

RobitTV, in answer to your question...

Certainly certain areas need upgrading, both in admin and weaponry/tech' but presently I'd say the boys and girls of our forces, our foot soldiers as such are trying to do the best that they can with the tools they have to hand.

* Would I like to see things upgraded? Definitely yes.
* Is it possible at present to do such a thing wide scale? No.
* Can very certain areas be upgraded even given the present economic mess? Yes but its doubtful even if the money is there for that.

ReacherCreature

RobitTV wrote: »

Lets have a look at a British Trident Nuclear missile Submarine. Buy a few of them from the UK And THEN Lets see the spanish Try and rob our fish.
picture here

Just when I thought you wanted a serious argument you come up with that drivel.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Seaneh wrote: »

In reply to the OP.

No, we shouldn't, we have no need to.
We are EU members and we are neutral, who the **** is going to try and invade us? Cope the feck on, we can't even afford to keep hospitals open why the feck would we need to upgrade our military? who's going to invade us, Iceland?!

This is old crap, and ignorant.

Our threats have never been external. The threat to our state has always been an internal security threat.

Our navy has never had to be strong to deter invaders, its had to be vigil to prevent arm's shipments to those who's ultimate aim was to over throw the legitimate free state government.

It wasn't just by the grace of God that Ireland didn't rip itself asunder Yugoslav style buddy.

And they say ignorance is a bliss - ffs :rolleyes:

Seaneh

Anderson Tasty Tarp wrote: »

This is old crap, and ignorant.

Our threats have never been external. The threat to our state has always been an internal security threat.

Our navy has never had to be strong to deter invaders, its had to be vigil to prevent arm's shipments to those who's ultimate aim was to over throw the legitimate free state government.

It wasn't just by the grace of God that Ireland didn't rip itself asunder Yugoslav style buddy.

And they say ignorance is a bliss - ffs :rolleyes:

I didn't say disolve the military, but it doesn;t need upgrading right now. The Army certainly don't, not to do they job they do. As for the navy, yes they are under funded and need new ships but there is no way in hell we can afford them right now, so why even entertain the idea? Get off your high horse for half a minute, do you really think we either need to or can afford to upgrade out military tech outside of the naval fleet right now? I'd be almost certain you don't.

deise go deo

The Aussie wrote: »

what the Free Clothing Association is running out of hard men shirts :eek:

The FCA is dead and gone, We have the RDF now, An organisation more professional in its outlook but still crippled by the same disinterest shown to it by the government.

Yes it is our military, If not then whos?:rolleyes:

Some people seem to think being Neutral* means you don't need a military, If anything it means you need one more than ever, Being neutral means nothing if you cant defend it.


*we are not neutral btw;)

dunsandin

Gary4279 wrote: »

Stupid post, in times of political upheaval every county needs a defence force to ward of invasion. A deterant more so.

Also, the army do more, such as cash in transits, protect presedents ect...

Should only upgrade the navy for fish stock protection and to catch drug smugglers.

Hahhahhahhahahahahahahahahha- our DF could not ward off Andorra if the Andorrans were not allowed to hit in the face. I have family in the AC and the Armeeee, and going by what they tell me, unless the Vikings invade, armed with swords and spears, we are fecked. And it could be touch and go with the Vikings. Our services are more like a well paid synchronised marching service with strictly ceremonial rating, a bit like a €12 samurai sword.

Darksaga87

Laser guns.

we need 'em.

dunsandin

Anderson Tasty Tarp wrote: »

Seriously, wtf protects you and have protected you from the worse internal security threat in Europe since WWII?.

Who patrols your shores in the fight against drug inportation? and during out recent 'troubles' patrolled the shores against arm's shipments?.

Who defuses the now daily pipe bombs?.. I wish the army press office released the true figures for these incidents.

We do f'all oversea's?.. Get fvcking real.. do some research on the humanitarian work we've done everywhere we went. Or when we brought Charles Taylor (Liberia / blood diamonds) to trial, and ran the hospice in Bidoa (somalia) almost singled handedly. Search for our record on the Tibnine orphange in Lebanon.

We do all this, and a lot more whilst our government spends the least amount of money on defence than any other European nation..

Oh, almost forgot - aid to the civil powers.. You haven't a damned clue on your sh*t talking about.

Absolute sh1te. Of the highest order. Gardai and S.B.Almost no-one. Bangers as Bombs. Driving around in shiny jeeps and going on the p1ss.-just to cover your points, and before you say I'm talking out of me hole, family have served in every European armed conflict of the last 100 years-totally warlord genes, more soldiers in the brood than gengis khan. My feckin name means soldier, and the irish defence forces are up there with the Irish Ski team. Father soldier, grandfathers both professional soldiers, passed selection for sandhurst myself, wifes family D.F, son in law A.C. Ultimate respect for anybody willing to put themselves in harms way, but we could not resist against , well, anybody. I reckon I could have ye all myself if it came to it.:D

PeterIanStaker

The defence budget is about 0.5% of GDP.

Its miniscule compared to the money-furnace that is the HSE, and it delivers excellent service at home and abroad, as Makikomi pointed out, and also comes in under budget which is something few if any other depts can boast.

These threads are senseless whining, usually populated by crusties, 'Ra heads who havent a clue, and Cruiser/Myersian fantasists who think the Glorious Empire should take over the Curragh or something.

Also to answer the question, I think the equipment (Mowags etc) won't need upgrading for a while.

Royal Irish

Send them all to Afghanistan and they could guard the cash in transit vans in Kabul.

dunsandin

Anyone noticed just how efficent they are at the whole cash in transit business? And they are. And I know the inside story of just how efficient they are, and its seriously impressive. Talk about having your priorities right. this whole feckin country is geared to serving the banks.

Darksaga87

dunsandin wrote: »

Absolute sh1te. Of the highest order. Gardai and S.B.Almost no-one. Bangers as Bombs. Driving around in shiny jeeps and going on the p1ss.-just to cover your points, and before you say I'm talking out of me hole, family have served in every European armed conflict of the last 100 years-totally warlord genes, more soldiers in the brood than gengis khan. My feckin name means soldier, and the irish defence forces are up there with the Irish Ski team. Father soldier, grandfathers both professional soldiers, passed selection for sandhurst myself, wifes family D.F, son in law A.C. Ultimate respect for anybody willing to put themselves in harms way, but we could not resist against , well, anybody. I reckon I could have ye all myself if it came to it.:D

And what have you done with your life so far? Besides moan and ****e on the net.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Royal Irish wrote: »

Send them all to Afghanistan and they could guard the cash in transit vans in Kabul.

The reason why we escort CIT is that the same murderers of Det.Gda.McCabe are still out there - they haven't gone away you know!.

dunsandin

Darksaga87 wrote: »

And what have you done with your life so far? Besides moan and ****e on the net.

I have 2 beautiful kids, a lovely wife, and I pay more out in wages in a day than you earn in a month.

dunsandin

Anderson Tasty Tarp wrote: »

The reason why we escort CIT is that the same murderers of Det.Gda.McCabe are still out there - they haven't gone away you know!.

No, the reason we escort cash in transit is because the banks pay over the odds for the service, and it pays the grunts wages, and don't even bother to tell me I'm wrong.

Scuid Mhór

RobitTV wrote: »

Lads do you think Its time to Upgrade our weapons and Our military force? (Well defence force)

i see you've also had access to the top secret international espionage plans too, robittv. i'm sure you were as shocked as me to find out that ireland is a 'highly desirable' place to conquer. if it were me in charge, i'd be trying to stay as far away as i could.