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The end of Seán Óg

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Great player. Great man off the pitch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 759 ✭✭✭mrgaa1


    he was a great player - and best to go when still nearly at the top of your game. He had no choice - the manager wasn't selecting him for the panel. And I suppose he had to go anyway as all his talk about players needing to get paid was starting to irritate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,426 ✭✭✭Roar


    Great player. Great man off the pitch.

    complete and utter gentleman who had time for everyone. A great cork servant. And who can forget this speech?



    Legend.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I realise that Sean Og is 33 and all but Oct is not even over yet...bit early to be dropping him? i mean Tony Browne is still handy enough or Ken McGrath. just throwing the argument out there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Gerard.C


    RTE are saying he didnt retire, he was dropped

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2010/1018/ohailpins.html


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    He was dropped, the following statement was issued on Sean Og's behalf to all the news outlets
    Statement issued on behalf of Seán Óg Ó hAilpín

    Monday October 18


    "I met with the Cork hurling manager, Denis Walsh, on Saturday last (16th September) where he informed me that I was not in his plans for the Cork Hurling Panel. I would love to continue to play for Cork, but I must respect the manager’s decision in this regard.

    "I will however keep playing with my club Na Piarsaigh.

    "I would like to thank all the players who I played with over my fourteen year career. I have always taken immense pride in wearing the Cork jersey and representing the county I love. I wish the Cork team the best of luck in their future endeavours.

    "I would like to thank all of the Cork supporters and GAA supporters around the country for their phenomenal support throughout my career.

    "I do not wish to make any further comment on this matter.

    "Corcaigh abú."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    I wonder what the full story is? If Sean Óg was willing to be a squad member and not be pretty much guaranteed a starting place it's hard to see the value in telling a player of his quaility in October, long before even team trials for the next season begins, that you're dropping him - more Cork strife?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Shame he is leaving altogether, one of my favourite hurlers but he hasn't quite been up to his once very high standards for a few years (one amongst many tbf). It would have been ideal had he stayed on for a couple of years and stayed on the bench, coming on as an sub for the last twenty and offering experience to the young lads like Egan.

    Anyway, I'll look forward to watching him for Na Piarsigh for a few years yet. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,778 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    Perhaps the Cork lads should strike until he's allowed back on the panel.... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Three All Ireland medals in his pocket, plenty of other medals plus numerous honours including being named hurler of the year and an all star (and off the top of my head i think he has a couple of Munster senior football medals too).

    He owes Cork hurling nothing. And from the few times I met him he is an absolute gentleman.

    There have been cries for the Cork senior hurling panel to be rebuilt from the ground up. I suppose we cant have it both ways - as much as I'd like to see him continue. Himself and Brian Corcoran were my GAA heros when I was growing up.

    Thanks for the memories Sean Og and I'm sure we haven't seen the last of you in GAA circles. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭deisedude


    Can't believe they didn't keep him on the panel at least. Maybe he wasn't at his best the last year or two but there isn't too many in Cork better than him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭hurling_lad


    While it's sad to see the back of a player who has given the service to Cork hurling (and football) that Seán Óg has, it is definitely time for the Cork management to bring new blood into the half-back line - the longer major surgery is delayed, the longer it will be before we're able to challenge KK and Tipp again.

    An awesome hurler and athlete - as per previous poster, thanks for the memories Seán Óg.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 34,013 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Hurling at the highest level has been a little bit too fast for him I fear this year. An absolute legend of a player. I would like to see him tog out with the footballers if his services are no longer required. He is certainly capable of playing intercounty football for a few more years. Hard to think of him not on the hurling squad though.
    Na Piarsaigh will of course be glad of the news. He's the kind of player that will be playing club hurling into his forties - at least. Legend of a hurler and a gentlemen to boot!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭Mountainlad


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    He's the kind of player that will be playing club hurling into his forties - at least. Legend of a hurler and a gentlemen to boot!!

    Will he though. He seemed to have awful difficulty with his hamstrings this year. Seems to muscular if ya get me, like Dan. Its compromised his pace. Anyway, if he needs playing they don't need him. There is too much negativity about Cork hurling at the minute, and until that is sorted ye're going nowhere. Like ye'e u21s were good this year but nobody had faith in them. People pretending they were cat and Cork has not future, sure they only lost to Tipp after extra time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭Fentdog84


    It seems a bit of a cruel fashion to end one of the lynchpins of Cork hurlings' career. Although Cork were shocking in the all ireland semi V's Kilkenny,and its probably time to bring in younger blood, you'd think that his experience and leadership would be of value in the squad for a few more years..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    Him, John Gardiner and Ronan Curren were the holy trinity of a half-back line IMO. The backbone of a fantastic Cork team which, from 03-06 were the best in the country by a long way.

    Sad to see him go.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Deise Tom


    Sean Óg is named on a Cork Colleges team to play Australia in a challenge on Wednesday evening.

    Cork Third Level Colleges Vs Australia
    - Wednesday, October 20th @ 6pm.
    - Páirc Uí Rinn, Cork.
    - Admission free for all Juveniles. Adults will be asked to give a donation to local Cork GAA charities.
    UCC/CIT will play the Australian International Rules Team in an unofficial test on Wednesday October 20th in Páirc Uí Rinn. The Cork team will contain the cream of young intercounty talent from both Colleges including many who won the GAA Football All-Ireland All Senior Championship recently.
    The UCC/CIT team will be managed by Des Cullinane (Coach to 3 UCC Sigerson Cup winning teams, 2 Higher Education Leagues , 1 Cork County CShip & 1 Munster Club) and Keith Ricken (Coach to Cit Sigerson Cup winning team)
    Among the GAA charities to benefit will be the Alan Kerins Fund which is being supported by a large number of the Cork Senior Hurling Panel.
    If you need juvenile tickets Contact Des Cullinane at ccdelegate.cork@gaa.ie or Kevin OCallaghan Cork County Games Manager.
    This game is a warm up for the Irish Daily Mail International Rules Series between Ireland and Australia which will take place in Limerick on Saturday October 23rd and in Croke Park on Saturday October 30th.Visit www.gaa.ie for all ticket information.
    Cork Third Level Colleges Panel
    1. Ken OHalloran UCC/Cork
    2. Donal Og ODonovan UCC/Cork
    3. Adrian Greaney UCC/Kerry
    4. Mark Collins UCC/Cork
    5. Paul Honohan UCC/Cork
    6. Kevin ODriscoll UCC/Cork
    7. Peter Crowley UCC/Kerry
    8. J.B. Spillane UCC/Kerry
    9. Jamie OSullivan UCC/Cork
    10. Liam Jennings UCC/Cork
    11. John Buckley UCC/Kerry
    12. Daithi Casey UCC/Kerry
    13. Sean Kiely UCC/ Cork
    14. Eoghan Cotter UCC/Cork
    15. Sean Óg OHailpin Cork
    16. Brian Walsh CIT/Cork
    17. Ray Carey CIT /Cork
    18. Stephen ODonoghue CIT/Cork
    19. Aidan Walsh CIT/Cork
    20. Conor ODriscoll CIT/Cork
    21. Paul Flynn CIT/Cork
    22. Sean OHare CIT/ Waterford
    23. Andrew OSullivan CIT/Cork
    24. Paul Kerrigan CIT/Cork
    25. Barry John Walsh CIT/Kerry
    26. Colm ONeill CIT/Cork
    27. James Fitzpatrick CIT/Cork
    28. Ronan Power CIT/Cork
    29. Ciaran Sheehan CIT/Cork
    30. Hugh Curran CIT/Cork



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    What was a joke is that they picked this guy for the international rules series when he wasn't play football. There were loads of proper defenders in other counties who deserved their shot beside him.... we will now have to listen to more aul **** about him... legs are gone for a while so move on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    What was a joke is that they picked this guy for the international rules series when he wasn't play football. There were loads of proper defenders in other counties who deserved their shot beside him.... we will now have to listen to more aul **** about him... legs are gone for a while so move on

    Who gives a ****? That was years ago. And he played inter-county full-back in football for Cork once upon a time so I'm guessing he is better then most of those 'proper' defenders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭shockframe


    Orizio wrote: »
    Who gives a ****? That was years ago. And he played inter-county full-back in football for Cork once upon a time so I'm guessing he is better then most of those 'proper' defenders.

    Sean OG was one of the poorest players that ever played inter county football for cork id say.

    In 1999 he was roasted by Aodhan Macgerailt, James Horan and Graham Geraghty and in 2000 Dara O Cinneide scored 2-5 off him in killarney so I would be wary of giving him a second go at inter county football.

    And this is not a dig at him because he had every right to stand up to the jurassic brigade in pairc ui caoimh and was a fine hurler in his day and even still has a lot to offer.

    madness that he was dropped especially when there is a few sars lads in particular still knocking about.

    I wouldnt be for or against him but you have to take your hat off to him all the same.14 years service for cork and coming back from the car crash to captain a county to an all ireland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    shockframe wrote: »
    Sean OG was one of the poorest players that ever played inter county football for cork id say.

    In 1999 he was roasted by Aodhan Macgerailt, James Horan and Graham Geraghty and in 2000 Dara O Cinneide scored 2-5 off him in killarney so I would be wary of giving him a second go at inter county football.

    And this is not a dig at him because he had every right to stand up to the jurassic brigade in pairc ui caoimh and was a fine hurler in his day and even still has a lot to offer.

    madness that he was dropped especially when there is a few sars lads in particular still knocking about.

    I wouldnt be for or against him but you have to take your hat off to him all the same.14 years service for cork and coming back from the car crash to captain a county to an all ireland.

    We'll see how that goes. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    THFC wrote: »
    Perhaps the Cork lads should strike until he's allowed back on the panel.... ;)


    Maybe the galway players could strike, god knows ye have tried everything else to try and win an all ireland;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    IMO Sean Og should have been given another year in the cork setup.
    I dont think that cork have many replacements that are better than him in his position. He had a poor start this year but finished very well. Maybe if the management wanted to blood new talent they could have kept Sean Og as an impact sub. Just imagine a game hanging in the balance and being able to bring on Sean Og, the team and the crowd would go insane:)

    The problem with cork is not necessarly the old guard but the younger guys. Curran, gardner, donal og, the o conners, tom kenny all had good performances this year. The back line destroyed tipps all stars in pairc ui chaoimh.
    Its the forward line where cork have the big problems, we just cant score. Isakie should not even be on the panel. Cussen should be full forward not on the bench. We need some strong physical forwards.

    Anyway, Sean Og was a great player for cork, a hero and inspiration to many of the kids down here.
    Thanks for all the memories


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    The back line destroyed tipps all stars in pairc ui chaoimh.

    As did the forwards.
    Isakie should not even be on the panel.

    Lucky we have no one of that name of our panel then.
    Cussen should be full forward not on the bench.

    Cussen can't score, can barely run and can't work hard - he is entirely unsuitable to the inter county game.
    We need some strong physical forwards.

    We have Aisake, Cussen, Niall Mac, Mark O'Sullivan etc - we have big forwards coming out the ass. What we need is hurlers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭largepants


    I have to say I always liked Sean Og. And even more so when he presented medals to our local club a few years ago. He was an absolute gent and hang around for photos for over an hour later. Fair play Sean Og.Not meaning to insult the man or anything - this is my attempt at humour. Will he be known as Sean Og O Hasbeen now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 murf 1990


    Great player. Great man off the pitch.
    great player me hole he could hit a ball out of his way was a good handballer on a hurling pictch though sence thats all he could do he left cause helments were brought in a he could no longer get close ups of his infleated head


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 murf 1990


    Daysha wrote: »
    Him, John Gardiner and Ronan Curren were the holy trinity of a half-back line IMO. The backbone of a fantastic Cork team which, from 03-06 were the best in the country by a long way.

    Sad to see him go.
    kilkenny half backline for 4 in row was way better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭MfMan


    shockframe wrote: »
    Sean OG was one of the poorest players that ever played inter county football for cork id say.

    In 1999 he was roasted by Aodhan Macgerailt, James Horan and Graham Geraghty and in 2000 Dara O Cinneide scored 2-5 off him in killarney so I would be wary of giving him a second go at inter county football.

    And this is not a dig at him because he had every right to stand up to the jurassic brigade in pairc ui caoimh and was a fine hurler in his day and even still has a lot to offer.

    madness that he was dropped especially when there is a few sars lads in particular still knocking about.

    I wouldnt be for or against him but you have to take your hat off to him all the same.14 years service for cork and coming back from the car crash to captain a county to an all ireland.

    Never rated him that highly as a hurler either, nothing against the lad or anything. Requiem for a journeyman by and large methinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭largepants


    murf 1990 wrote: »
    great player me hole he could hit a ball out of his way was a good handballer on a hurling pictch though sence thats all he could do he left cause helments were brought in a he could no longer get close ups of his infleated head

    Good man murf. I wouldn't mind but he spoke very highly of you. He thought you were probably the best hurler on the ditch he ever saw!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    murf 1990 wrote: »
    great player me hole he could hit a ball out of his way was a good handballer on a hurling pictch though sence thats all he could do he left cause helments were brought in a he could no longer get close ups of his infleated head

    I think the langauge barrier is preventing us from understanding you. Sorry!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    A 'journeyman' with three All-Ireland medals... :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    murf 1990 wrote: »
    great player me hole he could hit a ball out of his way was a good handballer on a hurling pictch though sence thats all he could do he left cause helments were brought in a he could no longer get close ups of his infleated head

    ,,,,,,
    here's a few commas, try using them.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    i think some of Sean Ogs criticism is totally uncalled for.

    Whether you liked him on a personal level or not he was quality half back and don't forget he only caught a hurley in his hand for the first time when he was 11. An Amazing guy, the way he adapted to life in Ireland ill give him his credit where due.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    i think some of Sean Ogs criticism is totally uncalled for.

    Whether you liked him on a personal level or not he was quality half back and don't forget he only caught a hurley in his hand for the first time when he was 11. An Amazing guy, the way he adapted to life in Ireland ill give him his credit where due.

    Don't forget the car crash in 2001 after which he was told he'd be lucky to walk again! So to get back playing after that was remarkable!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Stars puzzled at Sean Og exit
    SOME of Seán Óg O hAilpín’s contemporaries during his 14 years as a senior hurler for Cork have spoken of their surprise that he is no longer required by the Rebels boss Denis Walsh

    JJ Delaney described the development as "a big shock" while Ollie Canning and Jamesie O’Connor both claimed that the Na Piarsaigh clubman still had something to offer at the highest level.

    All three hailed O hAilpín’s contribution to the game as a hurler and a leader, with Canning saying that he left some "classic memories" and O’Connor recalling his relief at being switched off the tight-marking wing-back even if it was to move onto Brian Corcoran.

    Delaney has been rated alongside O hAilpín as one of the finest wing-backs of his generation and he led the plaudits as the Rebel legend confirmed that the final chapter of a brilliant career had been written for him.

    "That’s a big shock" said Delaney. "I didn’t see that coming. The way he looks after himself, I though he had another few years left.

    "I’d say it came as a surprise to him too.

    "When you’re playing Cork, Seán Óg was one of the names you looked out for. You know he’s going to be one of their main hurlers you had to get past. Not many lads got the better of him. He’s one of the best hurlers that’s been around for a long time; a clean, honest hurler. I don’t know if he ever got a yellow card, not to mind a red. He kept himself in the best possible shape and was always looking to do his best for the team.

    "We played in the same position and you’d be trying to do half as much as he did and if you did, you’d be okay. He had it down to a fine art."

    Canning is another brilliant defender who won’t be playing next summer although the Portumna great made that decision himself.

    He points to the increasing demands on players as making it difficult to have the sort of longevity that both he and O hAilpín enjoyed.

    "It’s very competitive now at inter-county level and it’s getting harder for some of the older guys to keep going. You can see the age profile is dropping all the time and you can be giving 14 or 15 years away to some guys. But Seán Óg O hAilpín left some classic memories. When Cork were winning All-Irelands, Seán Óg was to the forefront. He was one of their main leaders.

    "He was a great man for the big day, a guy Cork could always depend on. Whether the ball was in the sky, or he was attacking it, it didn’t matter. He had all the skills.

    "What’s more, he is a real gentleman on and off the field; a decent, sound guy. I got to have a chat with him on a few trips we were on with the All Stars and it was a pleasure."

    O’Connor spoke in similar vein, having had first hand experience of going toe-to-toe with O hAilpín.

    "I found him one of the toughest opponents, if not the toughest, that I ever marked" said the former Clare sharpshooter.

    "He was a super athlete and in an era when there were a lot of flamboyant wing-backs going up the field getting points but didn’t necessarily defend, he did a lot of defending. He saw that as his primary duty.

    "I remember a couple of seasons in ‘97 and ‘98 that I was shifted into centre-forward and I would have been quite happy to make that switch, even if it was onto Brian Corcoran. Brian might concentrate on playing away his own game and leave you to your devices a bit more. You wouldn’t lose Seán Óg easily.

    "There has been a certain amount of talk in Cork that there was a need to freshen things up but in 2009, Cork’s best players in the championship were the guys that had been around the longest.

    "There had been signs this year that maybe he had lost a yard of pace – it happened to us all. But I still would have seen him as someone that could play a part in the Cork panel and be close to Denis Walsh’s starting 15."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    Something tells me this is going to rumble on for a long time and even if Cork suceed in improving next year it'll be hard for Walsh or anyone else to say they'd be any worse had they Sean Óg - or indeed the other veterns who may well jump ship in the aftermath of this - on the panel.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 34,013 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    murf 1990 wrote: »
    great player me hole he could hit a ball out of his way was a good handballer on a hurling pictch though sence thats all he could do he left cause helments were brought in a he could no longer get close ups of his infleated head

    I was going to comment on your distinct lack of knowledge towards the English language both spelling and grammar.
    I was going to comment on you distinct lack of knowledge towards Seán Óg.
    Apparently quite a few people have beaten me to it.
    Gutted:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    Orizio wrote: »
    Who gives a ****? That was years ago. And he played inter-county full-back in football for Cork once upon a time so I'm guessing he is better then most of those 'proper' defenders.

    It wasn't that long ago and you are incorrect, he was not better than most of those proper defenders, he was just kisser and a couple of ****ty managers couldn't see past this bs.

    Ever hear him talk ...like,like like like like... doh. He was getting skinned for the last year anyway. He is in the papers now complaining like a bitch, get a grip. If the manager thinks you are not up for it move on. If he had any self respect, he would turn to the manager and say, I'd still love to play and give me the winter to get up to speed, besides going to the media like a sulking baby


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    It wasn't that long ago and you are incorrect, he was not better than most of those proper defenders, he was just kisser and a couple of ****ty managers couldn't see past this bs.

    Ever hear him talk ...like,like like like like... doh. He was getting skinned for the last year anyway. He is in the papers now complaining like a bitch, get a grip. If the manager thinks you are not up for it move on. If he had any self respect, he would turn to the manager and say, I'd still love to play and give me the winter to get up to speed, besides going to the media like a sulking baby

    How embarassing this post is. One can only feel pity for you. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    Orizio wrote: »
    How embarassing this post is. One can only feel pity for you. :(

    WTF Why - becase I have an opinion different from you, that does not fit into your line of thinking!!


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    It wasn't that long ago and you are incorrect, he was not better than most of those proper defenders, he was just kisser and a couple of ****ty managers couldn't see past this bs.

    Ever hear him talk ...like,like like like like... doh. He was getting skinned for the last year anyway. He is in the papers now complaining like a bitch, get a grip. If the manager thinks you are not up for it move on. If he had any self respect, he would turn to the manager and say, I'd still love to play and give me the winter to get up to speed, besides going to the media like a sulking baby
    Sean Og O hAilpin has revealed that he was left with no option but to retire after Cork manager Denis Walsh informed him that he wouldn't be part of his plans next year.

    Confirming his retirement from inter-county hurling after 14 years, the 33-year-old Cork legend said on a statement on the GPA's website: "I met with the Cork hurling manager Denis Walsh on Saturday last when he informed me that I was not in his plans for the Cork hurling panel. I would love to continue to play for Cork, but I must respect the manager's decision in this regard.

    i think above proves he wasnt complaining like a bitch and i think i would rather someone who wants to play for the county then one who doesn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    i think above proves he wasnt complaining like a bitch and i think i would rather someone who wants to play for the county then one who doesn't.

    Well why does he have to go public on his retirement and the manager not wanting him - to me that is bitching and to get public support. The manager tells him he is not up to it. He should have walked away and said thats it. Now he has put the managment under intense pressure over his ****e and in the end, if he comes back he will get skinned and he is only there cause he went public.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭deise_boi


    Well why does he have to go public on his retirement and the manager not wanting him....

    He did this to dispel initial reports that he had walked away from the panel, rather than not be selected for the coming year.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 34,013 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Well why does he have to go public on his retirement and the manager not wanting him - to me that is bitching and to get public support. The manager tells him he is not up to it. He should have walked away and said thats it. Now he has put the managment under intense pressure over his ****e and in the end, if he comes back he will get skinned and he is only there cause he went public.

    Why did he have to go public? Are you for real? He said it as it happened, no bullshít, just the gods honest truth! But you think he should have made some story up?
    " He has put the management under pressure"? ... I think you'll find they did that by dropping him off the panel. That was their decision... they of course are well aware of any ' pressure' that may or may not come their way as a result of their decision. They will stand by their decision - they have to.


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    Well why does he have to go public on his retirement and the manager not wanting him - to me that is bitching and to get public support. The manager tells him he is not up to it. He should have walked away and said thats it. Now he has put the managment under intense pressure over his ****e and in the end, if he comes back he will get skinned and he is only there cause he went public.


    Try read the article. he stated he respected the managers decision. he was merely pointing out that he was droped and not retired and he didnt complain.

    Who was the first man to express his shock only JJ Delaney who was arguably the best no 7 of his generation. that will show the esteem sean og is held in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    Ya right I am not complaining but I go to the media and sprout it all over!! The only guy who should have any opinions on him is the manager and he thinks he is past it. I would suggest also, the manager knows exactly that he is finished and JJ knows feck all about his current form.

    The best team in ireland over the last few years is Kilkenny and cody drops his players like hot cakes if they are not delivering. You don't normally hear any of these guys in the media with the exception of one, who has an ego like this lad!!

    I would think he will be on the sunday game next year going Jayus like Jaysus like - maybe all this hype is to get him in there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭deise_boi


    ...The only guy who should have any opinions on him is the manager and he thinks he is past it...

    The best team in ireland over the last few years is Kilkenny and cody drops his players like hot cakes if they are not delivering...


    People are entitled to have their own opinions on him, including yourself, which you have expressed in above posts.

    How exactly has he not been delivering? If I recall correctly, he was injured against Waterford in Munster this year and had a pretty good game against Kilkenny, all things considered. If you're talking about Walsh getting rid of people who weren't delivering this year, the forward six should be the first port of call.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭Dorcha


    Autoslaven – I think the problem most people would have with your initial post is that it seemed to show a hatred for Sean Og. You could have made your points without offensive remarks. What did he ever do to you personally?

    I certainly didn’t agree with the path chosen by Sean Og and the other strikers, and, more than most, he continually put his foot in it during the dispute. But as a Cork hurler and a man, I have nothing but admiration for him. I am surprised that Denis Walsh has dropped him, especially when you consider the fact that Fraggy and Jerry have been kept on for the new year (according to newspaper reports). However Denis Walsh has not made any statement about his plans for the New Year, and no doubt, all will be revealed in due course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    I see Aisake has thrown in the towel now too.

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2010/1115/ohailpina.html

    So he quits because a) he was (rightly) substituted in a game, and b) his brother retired.

    Bizarre. He played more than he deserved last year, and it doesn't take a genius to understand why he was substituted in the Kilkenny game. It doesn't look like Walsh told him he wouldn't get his game (unlike Sean Og) but now he doesn't want to play because Sean Og wasn't told the same?

    Cork won't miss him since having at least some technical ability on the ball is needed at inter-county level, but talk about throwing your toys out of the pram.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Daysha wrote: »
    I see Aisake has thrown in the towel now too.

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2010/1115/ohailpina.html

    So he quits because a) he was (rightly) substituted in a game, and b) his brother retired.

    Bizarre. He played more than he deserved last year, and it doesn't take a genius to understand why he was substituted in the Kilkenny game. It doesn't look like Walsh told him he wouldn't get his game (unlike Sean Og) but now he doesn't want to play because Sean Og wasn't told the same?

    Cork won't miss him since having at least some technical ability on the ball is needed at inter-county level, but talk about throwing your toys out of the pram.

    a) one thing to be taken off, another thing to be taken off with no explanation - and especially since there was no ball going into him that day. I'd take Aisake over Cussen any day, and there were other Cork forwards that should have been substituted before him that day, that were playing worse than him - Cian McCarthy was one. And the midfield and half backs did the whole full forward line no favours - remember there being a huge amount of long range wides during that game. Did you forget the Tipp game (1-1) got the penalty and created other chances, and I'm sure he got a goal in the Waterford game as well, better return that a lot of the Cork forwards!

    b) I wouldn't go back into a situation where I would get hurt again, and I don't blame him for not going back - since he has the chance to go back to Australia and play professionally, he should go and best of luck to him. I don't think its throwing the toys out of the pram, he had two choices, play for Cork or play professionally, he made his choice


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