'Back to the Mac' Event October 20th

Kimono-Girl

http://gizmodo.com/5662920/apple-back-to-the-mac-event-october-20th


im really looking forward to the new os...i wonder what it will bring?

you can def see the lion though :pac:

aidan_walsh

Thats a bit unusual to hold a new event so soon after the last, but I suppose its the only way they can talk OS X now since they had an iPhone only WWDC.

DBCyc

I was considering getting a new Macbook Pro to replace my old iMac PPC quite shortly. Should I now hold off until next month to wait for this new OS?

aidan_walsh

DBCyc wrote: »

I was considering getting a new Macbook Pro to replace my old iMac PPC quite shortly. Should I now hold off until next month to wait for this new OS?

It'll just be early information. 10.6 was announced a good 14 months before it was released, and any modern Intel Mac would be supported anyway when it does come out.

Sad Professor

"Back to the Mac" - I like it.

Yeah, 10.7 definitely won't be released at this event. It'll get an early demo at most. The Macbook Air redesign should be announced as well.

I'm not sure if there's anything else we can expect. It's a bit early for MBP updates.

KeithM89_old

OSX 10.7 Lion? Sounds a bit weird.
Id rather a sneek peek at OSXI

aidan_walsh

KeithM89 wrote: »

OSX 10.7 Lion? Sounds a bit weird.
Id rather a sneek peek at OSXIz

Could be worse. OS X Cougar. OS X Tomcat. OS X Puss Puss Puss.

Kimono-Girl

KeithM89 wrote: »

OSX 10.7 Lion? Sounds a bit weird.
Id rather a sneek peek at OSXI

i like the author's idea of OSX simba!

Dorsanty

Well it's about time they focused on their computers again. Hopefully it won't be how they've redesigned OS X to run iOS apps natively followed by 1 hour of how their mobile devices are doing.

I'm also in the market for a new MBP but will wait to see what's on offer here. I personally suspect that they might try to bring touch to 10.7 and refreshes of hardware might mean the beginnings of a touchscreen rollout, giving them 14 months to refresh their entire hardware line prior to release (very do'able).

Either way my '06 MBP has all the same features as a '10 MBP but just slower older variants of the components. However mine is running an SSD so can keep up with most '10 models. So it'll take something special for me to break out the Visa and go 'gimme gimme gimme'.

KeithM89_old

My keynote prediction:
-Date for iOS 4.2
-Overview of sales of Macs and Macbooks
-Preview of OSX Lion
-New iWork, iLife 11 and some all new app

And the 'one more thing' will be the new MacBook Air

Talisman

New refreshes of MacBook, MacBook Pro & MacBook Air?

Sad Professor

Talisman wrote: »

New refreshes of MacBook, MacBook Pro & MacBook Air?

Air, yes, definitely. But the other two were only updated in May. They've both been on 8-10 month refresh cycles the last few years. It's too early imo. February for both.

I hope 10.7 is good, but I'm expecting to be underwhelmed. Apple are so concerned with iOS right now I doubt they've found much time for OS X.

Stainless_Steel

Sad Professor wrote: »

I hope 10.7 is good, but I'm expecting to be underwhelmed. Apple are so concerned with iOS right now I doubt they've found much time for OS X.

What do people think would be good feature additions for 10.7?

Personally I think Front Row needs a major facelift. It's lacking so far behind third party apps (plex, boxee, xbmc etc).

KeithM89_old

I wouldnt mind an updated dock and maybe some enhancements to finder

aidan_walsh

KeithM89 wrote: »

My keynote prediction:
-Date for iOS 4.2

Possibly.

KeithM89 wrote: »

-Overview of sales of Macs and Macbooks
-Preview of OSX Lion

Certainly.

KeithM89 wrote: »

-New iWork, iLife 11 and some all new app
And the 'one more thing' will be the new MacBook Air

I don't think so. This meeting is on campus, and those tend to be close knit information only kinds rather than anything that require the demos, theatrics and crowd pumping that are typical for product launches.

I could be wrong, but I'd say this will be a lot more like the iPhone OS 2.0 and 3.0 preview meetings (iTunes podcast link, both are still available there)

big_moe

aidan_walsh wrote: »

I don't think so. This meeting is on campus, and those tend to be close knit information only kinds rather than anything that require the demos, theatrics and crowd pumping that are typical for product launches.

they've used the campus events before to launch new products so i wouldnt rule it out. they alu iMacs and unibody macbooks were both done at campus events, IIRC

Sad Professor

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Apple have used their "town hall" auditorium to host quite a few Mac-related product launches in recent years. In addition to the above, I'm fairly certain the Intel Mac Mini was announced there.

Unfortunately it's been a while since a Mac-related announcement could fill one of those large San Francisco halls that Apple use for the iPad/iPhone - and we know the last thing Apple would want is empty seats.

However, aside from a preview of 10.7, a new Air is probably the most we can expect. i3 processors getting added to the 13-inch MBP isn't out of the question either (especially if the new Air gets them) but it seems unlikely imo.

displaced dub

Hey Prof

Hows things?

what you think of the following, thinking of selling my 24" iMac on ebay or somewhere else(can you recomend anywhere else) and then i might go for the 27". What type of money is a 2 year old mint 24" worth?

Personally think OSX is due a serious upgrade now so wont be surprised if they go to 11 or 15 or IOSXI(sounds like sexy when you say it)

Sad Professor

displaced dub wrote: »

what you think of the following, thinking of selling my 24" iMac on ebay or somewhere else(can you recomend anywhere else)

Give Adverts a shot. You might get an idea of price there as well.

and then i might go for the 27". What type of money is a 2 year old mint 24" worth?

Which model is it? Does it have Applecare? It's only two years old so I'd say you'd get a good price for it.

Personally think OSX is due a serious upgrade now so wont be surprised if they go to 11 or 15 or IOSXI(sounds like sexy when you say it)

Not just yet, I don't think. But with a name like Lion, 10.7 may be the last major release of OS X. So any major changes Apple have planned (touch screen, etc) will probably be saved for Mac OS 11.

Btw - I really hope they don't change the Mac OS name. All this "iOS Desktop" talk makes me queasy.

condra

Sad Professor wrote: »

"Back to the Mac" - I like it.

I would have preferred "Return Of The Mac", but hey..

KeithM89_old

Apparently engadget saw a prototype of the new air here.
Doubt it is though - looks like a prototype Macbook pro 13.3

Dman001

Good breakdown of the so-called prototype here:
http://www.9to5mac.com/30835/11-6-inch-macbook-air-wont-replace-13-inch-version-have-glass-trackpad

There's alot of talk of a 11.6" Air, along with an "Instant-on" feature, which would suggest an SSD-only option. no HDD. Im more interested in the "significant price drop" Cnet are claiming it will have.

Talisman

What are the chances of their being two MBA models? The regular one and a lite! The smaller size model would account for a price drop.

Sad Professor

AI are suggesting there will be an 11-inch and 13-inch model.

Talisman

Sad Professor wrote: »

Air, yes, definitely. But the other two were only updated in May. They've both been on 8-10 month refresh cycles the last few years. It's too early imo. February for both.

The MacBook Pro refresh was in April and it was delayed because of Intel production issues. A Q4 (Oct/Nov) refresh will sync with the Intel processor road map release - there has been such a refresh for the past 4/5 years even when the previous refresh happened in May.

The 2011 Q1 processors would be available for a March/April refresh - the new Intel chip set will have a bunch of power saving/green features that Steve Jobs will want to brag about.

Just had a thought about the 11.6" model - what if it is a replacement for MacBook and not the Air? That would allow the Air to exist in the space between the MacBook and MacBook Pro.

11.6" - MacBook
13.3" - MacBook Air
15/17" - MacBook Pro

A mad idea I know but it would certainly shake up the Mac offerings and remove the 13" MacBook or 13" MacBook Pro dilemma for people.

KeithM89_old

Talisman wrote: »

11.6" - MacBook
13.3" - MacBook Air
15/17" - MacBook Pro

A mad idea I know but it would certainly shake up the Mac offerings and remove the 13" MacBook or 13" MacBook Pro dilemma for people.

If anything, it'd be :
11.6 inch MacBook Air ( No Superdrive)
13.3 inch MacBook with Superdrive
15/17 inch MacBook Pro with Superdrive

Talisman

KeithM89 wrote: »

If anything, it'd be :
11.6 inch MacBook Air ( No Superdrive)
13.3 inch MacBook with Superdrive
15/17 inch MacBook Pro with Superdrive

Not when you take into consideration the pricing of the current models.

13" MacBook : €999
13" MacBook Pro : €1149
13" MacBook Air : €1449
15" MacBook Pro : €1799

It makes no sense for them to produce a new 11" MacBook Air model and try to charge more for it than an existing 13" MacBook model. The 64GB 3G iPad is €799 so the new 11" product will have to be priced between that and the existing 13" products - who is going to pay more than €999 for it when they can have the existing MacBook for that price? An 11" MacBook Air for €899 would to eat into both iPad and MacBook revenue - the only way to make a place for it would be to remove the existing 13" MacBook and MacBook Pro. Then there is no dilemma about spending an extra €200 to get a better piece of hardware.

11" MacBook : €999
13" MacBook Air : €1399
15" MacBook Pro : €1799

Edit: As for the Superdrive, maybe Steve Jobs has decided that the time has come for them to go the way of the Floppy Drive. If you need one it's an optional external peripheral on the lower end models.

Sad Professor

Swapping the 13 inch MBP for a machine with no hard drive, no optical drive, no Ethernet port, no FireWire port, and with inferior battery life and graphics/processor would be crazy. It would only remove the dilemma in so far as people would probably decide not to get a MacBook at all. Enough of them already rule out those two machines because they think 13 inches is too small. How would they feel about an Air?

KeithM89_old

A great looking mockup from cult of mac:



Dont think it will have the black bezel though...

aidan_walsh

Looks like iLife 11 and the MBA are all but announced if supposed discussion board screen caps are to be believed.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/20/apple-com-reveals-ilife-upgrade-reaffirms-macbook-air-refresh/

I may have to go find a tasty looking hat to eat later this evening.

Sad Professor

Rumours suggest they are only putting a low voltage C2D in the new Air, so looks like no need for MBP updates.

I would like an iWork update but that's looking unlikely as well.

Sad Professor

And Apple are doing a live stream again. Hurray!

Oh and it starts at 6pm our time btw.

Sad Professor

Come on, get to the good stuff already.

Kimono-Girl

watching it now

Sad Professor

It was a bad sign when he said we'd be hearing more from the team.

fjon

Noticed an unfamiliar camera icon in the dock. Facetime for Mac perhaps?

Sad Professor

Are you sure it wasn't Aperture?

fjon

Nope, aperture is a circular camera lens, this one looked like the camera in iChat. It's to the right of Safari on the dock in the demo computer.

fjon

Yes.

Sad Professor

Yeah, I just saw it as well. It's the Facetime logo alright. Good catch.

You can see the same logo on the left:

dory

What's happening? Is it still on? I can't see it on that link.

banquo

Stupid VLan in work means I can't watch it live

banquo

Love the new iLife logo.

Hogzy

What the hell, i cant get it live at all. Im at home on a vodafone network, i have been able to see every other event on my Macbook. Im using safari and all i get is: Available Shortly Please check back soon

johnk123

Good spot there guys.... Facetime it is! Hopefully this is good... competing with skype maybe?

Rabble Rabble

19M = 14 iPhones and 5M touches.

Sad Professor

A Mac app store.... *gasp*

Kimono-Girl

facetime for mac wooo...


mac osx meets the ipad sounding good!

no touch screen but the trackpad is cool

app store sounds promising too!

Sad Professor

Never thought I'd say this, but the Mac App Store does look cool.

Launchpad - pointless.

Mission Control - interesting.

johnk123

Sad Professor wrote: »

Never thought I'd say this, but the Mac App Store does look cool.

Launchpad - pointless.

Mission Control - interesting.

It does look impressive. Will definitely make access to apps a lot easier and more efficient with them all in the one place.

90 days wait people...

banquo

One more thing