HIM 2011 Rollcall

shotgunmcos · 13-10-2010 10:35am #1

Since Tunney has banned HIMers from the IM thread :P I decided to kick off a half iron distance thread as I intend to do one in the build up to the biggie and we had a bunch of 'em in the SCR challenge this year. Just need to decide which one now? My club may be heading to Alpe D'Huez which I think would be a bit severe 4 weeks out from an IM. I've a couple of 70.3s shortlisted too (cost putting me off) but this Sperrin HIM up in Tyrone caught my attention as an early season one so thats a contender too.

Anyone else have any in mind or entered one yet? With hoardes heading to Galway, I wonder if Kenmare will be diluted?

Any other early season alternatives?

Name|Event|Estimated Time|Actual Time
Catweazle|Taitung Flowing Lake 113|5:50

shotgunmcos|undecided|8:00
ronanmac|Galway 70.3|6:59

Woddle · 13-10-2010 10:47am

shotgunmcos · 13-10-2010 10:51am

Woddle wrote: »

I'll be running the Barca marathon so won't make any decisions till after that, is that too late to decide?
Hope to improve hugely at swimming over the winter and like mcos price is really putting me off

Not at all. Barca is in March right? You could still enter Kenmare Lost Sheep for Sept. Its the only one I've done but its a super event (albeit under marshalled IMO). There is a link to my original (2009) log on the first page of my current log. At the end of it I have a race review of the Lost Sheep 2009. Fair play to you giving one a go Woddle, you have tons of time over the winter to build the swim fitness

catweazle · 13-10-2010 11:16am

Ha very good Shotgun, i googled it and I come up 2nd on the list for doing it, so I will leave it in for the moment. Taiwan is a bit far to get the pass from the Missus though. I will leave the pass for Ironman Canada some day:rolleyes:

I will deffo be doing one and maybe two all going well, but I dont know what, when or where yet.

Mrs C wants to go to France for holidays this year so either Swinford just before the holidays again or Alpe D'huez:eek: if I am over there. More than likely Galway as well as I would hate to be sat there watching it. Although if I do Alpe D'Huez I will probably leave it at that. Most likely though Swinford and Galway as the cycle in France would kill me

Timewise I am going to be ambitious, if I got my nutrition better and an improvement on the bike I would have been grand for sub 6. So this year I will look to do one of them in under 5.30, its a 47 minute improvement but I am desperate for setting myself easy targets.

That should just give me time to give my arch nemesis Ronanmac a roar on as he starts the half marathon in Galway 6.59...more sandbagging!

ronanmac · 13-10-2010 11:17am

shotgunmcos|undecided|8:00
ronanmac|Galway 70.3|no idea
Woddle|undecided|no idea |

I'm pretty sure that I'm going to sign up to the Galway 70.3, a bit tight on cash at the moment so I'll wait another while before signing up. As for finishing time, I really haven't a notion. Not being able to swim the required distance at the moment, let alone figure out what speed I'd do it in, holds me back from coming up with even a guesstimate. I'll stick a time up later when I start doing some swimming and it becomes more apparent.

Out of curiosity, can anyone equate a HIM to any other event in terms of endurance fitness needed? More, less, the same as a marathon? Also, any idea what percentage slower than your regular half-marathon time you should expect to run the half, after coming off the bike in a HIM?

Yours in ignorance

,
ronanmac!

Woddle · 13-10-2010 11:21am

catweazle wrote: »

Ha very good woddle, i googled it and I come up 2nd on the list for doing it, so I will leave it in for the moment!

Can't take credit, that was mcos

mloc123 · 13-10-2010 11:28am

Izoard · 13-10-2010 12:05pm

shotgunmcos wrote: »

Name|Event|Estimated Time|Actual Time
Catweazle|Taitung Flowing Lake 113|5:50
shotgunmcos|undecided|8:00
ronanmac|Galway 70.3|6:59

I'll probably do Sperrin any ways and if I don't do an IM, add Kenmare as well (if it doesn't clash with the Brittas Oly - obliged to do this...)

shotgunmcos · 13-10-2010 1:20pm

nomadic · 13-10-2010 1:23pm

I sure someone with some experience can give you a better answer but from my very limited experience

ronanmac wrote: »

Out of curiosity, can anyone equate a HIM to any other event in terms of endurance fitness needed? More, less, the same as a marathon?

Not sure how to answer that one. Depends how well you want to do but I suppose it'd be close to a marathon effort overall. You can get around both but doing well requires hard work(so I believe).

ronanmac wrote: »

Also, any idea what percentage slower than your regular half-marathon time you should expect to run the half, after coming off the bike in a HIM?

Yours in ignorance ,
ronanmac!

shotgunmcos · 13-10-2010 1:31pm

nomadic wrote: »

I'm not sure yet but I think Swinford looks good for me again next year. I've glastonbury tickets bought so it better not be earlier next year. Huge time inprovement needed but its the time of year for making lofty goals. 30, 2.30, 1.30 is what I think are the split aims so no time for transitions.

Wow 4:30 is fast!! Although judging from your log last year and meeting you in Budapest, I'd guess you have the capacity. Still bloody fast though!!

shotgunmcos · 13-10-2010 1:38pm

ronanmac wrote: »

Out of curiosity, can anyone equate a HIM to any other event in terms of endurance fitness needed? More, less, the same as a marathon? Also, any idea what percentage slower than your regular half-marathon time you should expect to run the half, after coming off the bike in a HIM?

Yours in ignorance ,
ronanmac!

Hey ronanmac I did the Lost sheep on Hell of the West fitness and a month of hilly bike focus on top.

Ideally for HIM if you can go to approx 130% of each discipline individually you will be in decent shape.

Hard to equate to a Marathon. I though The Lost Sheep was tougher than running DCM, but then I probably didn't push as hard in the DCM.

HIM probably on a par with a full Marathon effort. The run off the bike might not be too far from your Marathon halfway split. All depends on how well you judge the bike on the day too.

nomadic · 13-10-2010 1:41pm

shotgunmcos wrote: »

Wow 4:30 is fast!! Although judging from your log last year and meeting you in Budapest, I'd guess you have the capacity. Still bloody fast though!!

I know yea, quite a lofty goal alright. The 1.30 run being the hardest target to meet I think. Just need to stop eating and start training again now...

Izoard · 13-10-2010 1:42pm

[QUOTE=shotgunmcos;68484712
The tri limits site doesn't have any info on this event, but there is info about Cookstown Half Ironman on 5th June. Anyone done this? Does tr limits really organise 2 HIMs?

How cold was it at Sperrin at the start of May this year? It might be a nice early season IM but as Roth will be sweltering, its not exactly replicating conditions![/QUOTE]

The water for Sperrin was fuppin' Baltic - aside from that the race-day weather was perfect.
It is perfectly timed for a crack at a summer IM and saves you the pain and expense of going off the island for one.

I doubt they'll be organizing 2, as there were only about 50 doing the Half last year.

Information-flow was pretty patchy in advance of the race, but it came together on the day.

Notwitch · 13-10-2010 2:00pm

Date and venue change for Sperrin.

From the trilimits site:

Events 2011

Cookstown Half Ironman

(5th June 2011)

We have made the decision to move the Half Ironman to Eskragh lough in Dungannon due to unforseen circumstances and also moved it back to the first saturday in June!

connundrum · 13-10-2010 2:26pm

shotgunmcos · 13-10-2010 2:30pm

Thanks Notwitch so Sperrin = Cookstown HIM? Pardon my apparent ignorance, can't access the tri limits site

So the event this year was Sperrin HIM on 8th May (the one theat Liam D won) and this has been moved to June 5th and renamed Cookstown HIM?

Notwitch · 13-10-2010 3:12pm

yeah, so it seems. A pity really as the early May date was more suitable - to me anyway! Probably looking at Nice as a full of 5 June looks a bit late.

Then again, a lead in of a HIM on 5th with the Wicklow 200 following on the 12th may be a good thing! I felt undercooked with a 4 week taper last year..but that's a discussion for the IM thread.

Notwitch · 13-10-2010 3:22pm

Just to be clear - the sentence "We have made the decision to move the Half Ironman to Eskragh lough in Dungannon due to unforseen circumstances and also moved it back to the first saturday in June!" is a direct quote from their website.

I have nothing to do with trilimits - other than enjoying last years race.

shotgunmcos · 13-10-2010 4:01pm

I've emailed 'em for more info. I'll post any reponse I get.

5th June is right at the end of the build period for me and before the 4 week taper block... hmmm As much as I'd love to do the Alpe D'huez is a brute of a race to recover from so another time (+ lots and lots more base and mountain training!)

mitresize5 · 13-10-2010 5:50pm

catweazle · 13-10-2010 5:52pm

tinydave · 13-10-2010 9:54pm

catweazle wrote: »

Name|Event|Est Time|Actual Time
Catweazle|Swinford|5:30
shotgunmcos|undecided|8:00
ronanmac|Galway 70.3|no idea
Woddle|undecided|no idea |
Mloc123|Austria 70.3|Finish|
Izoard|Sperrin|??
nomadic|Swinford|4.30|
connundrum|Galway 70.3|Finish|
Mitresize5|Galway 70.3|6:15|
Tinydave|Galway 70.3|whats the time limit

Gringo78 · 14-10-2010 10:06am

MrCreosote · 14-10-2010 10:25am

shotgunmcos · 14-10-2010 10:53am

MrCreosote wrote: »

Name|Event|Est Time|Actual Time
MrCreosote|Taupo HIM|5:15|

It's not in Ireland, it's not even in 2011, but I'll throw it in anyway. December this year. Would love to do sub 5 but haven't done the training so 5:15-5:30 it'll be hopefully.

Cool! While you are doing that the rest of us will be skating around the place and dreading another turbo... :cool:

nomadic · 14-10-2010 3:01pm

MrCreosote wrote: »

It's not in Ireland, it's not even in 2011, but I'll throw it in anyway. December this year. Would love to do sub 5 but haven't done the training so 5:15-5:30 it'll be hopefully.

Nice one. If I ever do a full IM i reckon it'll either be there or wanaka.

MrCreosote · 14-10-2010 7:54pm

shotgunmcos wrote: »

Cool! While you are doing that the rest of us will be skating around the place and dreading another turbo... :cool:

Ha! I'll consider it payback for my wintertime suffering while you lot were swanning around boutique European locations...

MrCreosote · 14-10-2010 8:07pm

nomadic wrote: »

Nice one. If I ever do a full IM i reckon it'll either be there or wanaka.

The half is pretty much half of the IM course. The swim and run look nice but the bike isn't supposed to be too inspiring.

I've heard great things about Wanaka- if I do go full IM (no plans at the moment!) that would be no 1 on my list too. The lake can be chilly but the scenery for bike and run is magnificent. And it's a small enough place that the whole town is taken over by triathletes for the week. Then again that happens at IMNZ too...

shotgunmcos · 22-10-2010 8:06am

shotgunmcos wrote: »

I've emailed 'em for more info. I'll post any reponse I get.

Hi Micheal, Yea our half iron last year was a great sucess and everyone went home happy with the event and their goody bags, which some said were better than they got at official ironman and ironman Hawaii...next year we are having to move the event to Eskragh lough just outside Dungannon in co Tyrone which promises to be a fast course and good for those chasing a new P.B.....

Online entry is now open at Www.runireland.com and the date is 4th June and the entry fee is £85...same as last year, and if know of anyone who done the event will tell you that not only did they get well fed after the race but also their crews and family didn't go without either..at Trilimits we feel it's not just the athlete you have to look after but all who comes with them as it's a long day for them to..
Hopefully this may intice you to come up and give it a Tri....
P.s with this new event we will be able to offer camping and room hire to cut costs for the athlete...

Keep an eye on the website for updates on the Half Iron

Bob

as I said I would. An option for an early season HIM perhaps. Thinking about it myself.

metal dog · 22-10-2010 10:16am

shotgunmcos wrote: »

as I said I would. An option for an early season HIM perhaps. Thinking about it myself.

thanks for checking that out, it does look good, the guys I know who did their race last year were happy with it. I had been toying with the idea of Galway or Kenmare but might look to do an early one as well, so that I would have something very tangible to aim for early in the year.

(I am lost without mr. fink , gonna have to find some new programme to follow like a zombie

)

shotgunmcos · 22-10-2010 3:26pm

hf4z6sqo7vjngi · 22-10-2010 3:45pm

shotgunmcos · 22-10-2010 4:22pm

El Director · 23-10-2010 6:13pm

mrbungle · 24-10-2010 6:06pm

mloc123 · 24-10-2010 6:30pm

Okay, so to inject some discussion into this thread...

What training are people doing at the moment? My next few weeks are all endurance and skills. Lots and lots of time in zone2 with my main short term goal being reducing cardiac drift and dropping the extra 1.5 stone I put on over the past 2 months.

catweazle · 24-10-2010 7:09pm

Doing very little myself and I can feel the weight piling on

Have started a weights programme for my lunchtime breaks - its mainly focused on my leg and core muscles for the swimming and cycling.

Have had a few slow runs keeping heart rate under 150, I will start to increase these from January 1st

Hoping to focus on turbo sessions over the winter so The Wire Season 1 and the Pacific have been downloaded, an ALDI DVD player has been purchased also so now I need a TV for the shed

In the main I will be focusing on Cycling, some strength work, and I am going to start back on the swimming come november 1st (big booze weekend coming up)

Murraythree · 24-10-2010 8:19pm

shotgunmcos · 26-10-2010 12:03pm

mloc123 wrote: »

Okay, so to inject some discussion into this thread...

What training are people doing at the moment? My next few weeks are all endurance and skills. Lots and lots of time in zone2 with my main short term goal being reducing cardiac drift and dropping the extra 1.5 stone I put on over the past 2 months.

Very similar. Everyting except for swimming at Z1-Z2 range. Like you improve the cardiac drift by stubbornly sticking to base training. For example on the turbo I aim to maintain a cadence of 90 so my hr creeps up. At some point I have to drop a gear to maintain the cadence and zone. I'm aiming to push that point out as a sign that my base fitness is growing.

Also, skills. Mostly running and swimming drills. I have one specific swim session that is mostly drills and for running I'll be making use of the skipping rope gathering dust in a room.

I'm not going ot focus on weight other than monitor it. The extensive base training at lower zones especially Z1 will adapt the body for metabolising fat for energy. This will ultimately reduce your body fat.

Oryx · 26-10-2010 2:04pm

catweazle · 26-10-2010 2:26pm

Two of them Oryx in your 1st year :eek:

You really like to jump in at the deep end. I got engaged in Antwerp its a lovely place.

Your schedule is similiar to mine I will be looking at Swinford & more than likely Galway on the same weekends as your races. I am hoping 6 weeks is enough time to race them both

shotgunmcos · 26-10-2010 2:29pm

You just need to read Oryx's training log to understand. She is a tough cookie! A junior hunnymonster methinks

Oryx · 26-10-2010 2:36pm

catweazle wrote: »

Two of them Oryx in your 1st year :eek:

You really like to jump in at the deep end.

Some people just call it stupid.

Your schedule is similiar to mine I will be looking at Swinford & more than likely Galway on the same weekends as your races. I am hoping 6 weeks is enough time to race them both

Hopefully once the fitness is up, 6 weeks will be fine.

My biggest problem is finding the entry fees.

Edit: dunno about the junior anything. Im 40 in January. What better excuse do I need??

levitronix · 26-10-2010 6:20pm

Oryx wrote: »

Name|Event|Est Time|Actual Time
Catweazle|Swinford|5:30|
nomadic|Swinford|4.30|
ronanmac|Galway 70.3|no idea|
connundrum|Galway 70.3|Finish|
Mitresize5|Galway 70.3|6:15|
Tinydave|Galway 70.3|whats the time limit|
El Director|Galway 70.3|4:50|
shotgunmcos|Cookstown HIM|5:00|
Jackyback|Cookstown HIM|5:30
Mloc123|Austria 70.3|Finish|
Gringo78|Kenmare Lost Sheep|4:59|
MrCreosote|Taupo HIM|5:15|
Izoard|undecided|??|
Woddle|undecided|no idea|
mrbungle|Galway 70.3|7:00|
Murraythree|Galway 70.3|5:59|
Oryx|Galway 70.3 and Antwerp HIM |6.00??|
Levitronix|70.3 Mallorca|5:00|

Am bared from full IM next year

Bambaata · 28-10-2010 5:13pm

nomadic · 28-10-2010 6:02pm

Bambaata wrote: »

Name|Event|Est Time|Actual Time

Bambaata|Galway 70.3|Undecided just yet|

go away outta that. This thread is for wildly ambitious targets and I need someone to raise me on my time. I'm beginning to feel the pressure.

Bambaata · 28-10-2010 7:29pm

haha i havent thought about it too much yet. dont worry ill let you know ;-) cant imagine it would be much better than 4:30 though!

NeedsTraining · 28-10-2010 7:59pm

mloc123 · 28-10-2010 8:35pm

Bambaata wrote: »

haha i havent thought about it too much yet. dont worry ill let you know ;-) cant imagine it would be much better than 4:30 though!

Austria off?

edge500 · 28-10-2010 11:24pm

Planning to do Cookstown in June , taget time is under 5 hrs. Also will be going to Galway and aiming for around 4hrs.30 mins . oh , and i forgot to mention , never done a triathlon before!! Cant wait.

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