Rolls, baguettes, cuisine de france etc

Live at Three

I used to work in a job where I got into the habit of eating a deli counter roll every single day..I didn't get bored with them cause I had different toppings every day, had some great combinations going.

I know that those white rolls get very bad press but can people tell me exactly what is unhealthy about eating a white roll every day, would it be better to switch to wraps? I tried the grainy type rolls but it was like eating a piece of carpet...way too heavy, chewy and filling.

Ideally I would bring in a healthy packed lunch with me but is it possible to get a healthier option just from the local shop's deli counter?

rubadub

Live at Three wrote: »

it possible to get a healthier option just from the local shop's deli counter?

In the centra I go to the deli counter has trays you fill yourself. I just cram them full of ham & chicken breast and a bit of cheese. No bread at all, it works out very cheap since they expect people to fill up with salad & stuff, so my tray might weigh 500g and cost €3.50-€4.50.

I use iceberg lettuce leaves instead of wraps, I can keep a head of lettuce in the fridge in work.

Those rolls have shocking amount of calories.

billyhead

Just count it into your overall Macros. I eat about 1.5 rolls a day myself but I am trying to bulk up

silverharp

OP , just to add, what do you eat the rest of the day? if its cornflakes for breakfast and you come home to ready meals or lots of startchy foods then you'd be overdosing on carbs.

Live at Three

silverharp wrote: »

OP , just to add, what do you eat the rest of the day? if its cornflakes for breakfast and you come home to ready meals or lots of startchy foods then you'd be overdosing on carbs.

Yeah some sort of non sugary breakfast cereal plus a 'normal' dinner when I get home; spuds/rice/pasta with meat and veg. What happens when you overdose on carbs?

Dixie Chick

Live at Three wrote: »

Yeah some sort of non sugary breakfast cereal plus a 'normal' dinner when I get home; spuds/rice/pasta with meat and veg. What happens when you overdose on carbs?

You get HUGE!!:D

Bottle_of_Smoke

Live at Three wrote: »

I know that those white rolls get very bad press but can people tell me exactly what is unhealthy about eating a white roll every day

Like virtually all food it is not entirely unhealthy in itself. Íf you're not fat it's not a problem at all in my opinion.

Reason they make people fat is they are high calorie and high glycaemic index. IE break down into sugars very quickly so after eating there's a load of sugar in your bloodstream and your body converts it into fat.

There is some ideas that high-glycaemic index foods may be a factor in cancer. Here's one study -

Dietary glycemic index and glycemic load and risk of pancreatic cancer: a case-control study.
Rossi M, Lipworth L, Polesel J, Negri E, Bosetti C, Talamini R, McLaughlin JK, La Vecchia C.

Istituto di Ricerche Farmacologiche Mario Negri, Milan, Italy.

Abstract
PURPOSE: Carbohydrates and dietary glycemic index (GI) influence the secretion of insulin and insulin-related growth factors and may play a role in the development of diabetes and obesity, both of which have been related to pancreatic cancer risk.

METHODS: We examined the association between dietary GI and glycemic load (GL) and pancreatic cancer by conducting a hospital-based case-control study in Italy in 1991-2008 of 326 cases of pancreatic cancer and 652 control patients. Dietary data were obtained with the use of a validated food-frequency questionnaire. Odds ratios (ORs) and corresponding 95% confidence intervals (95% CIs) were computed with the use of multiple logistic regression.

RESULTS: GI was positively associated with pancreatic cancer, with ORs of 1.56 (95% CI, 1.06-2.30) and 1.78 (95% CI, 1.20-2.62) for the second and third tertiles, respectively, compared with the lowest. No significant association was observed between GL and pancreatic cancer. Consumption of sugar, candy, honey, and jam was positively associated with pancreatic cancer, whereas consumption of fruit was inversely associated.

CONCLUSIONS: In conclusion, the positive association with high GI, in the absence of an association with dietary GL, fruit, or total carbohydrates, likely reflects the positive association between sweets or refined carbohydrates and pancreatic cancer in this study population.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20470973

And coronary heart disease:

Dietary glycemic load and index and risk of coronary heart disease in a large italian cohort: the EPICOR study.
Sieri S, Krogh V, Berrino F, Evangelista A, Agnoli C, Brighenti F, Pellegrini N, Palli D, Masala G, Sacerdote C, Veglia F, Tumino R, Frasca G, Grioni S, Pala V, Mattiello A, Chiodini P, Panico S.

Nutritional Epidemiology Unit, Fondazione IRCCS (Istituto di Ricovero e Cura a Carattere Scientifico) Istituto Nazionale Tumori, Milan, Italy.

Abstract
BACKGROUND: Dietary glycemic load (GL) and glycemic index (GI) in relation to cardiovascular disease have been investigated in a few prospective studies with inconsistent results, particularly in men. The present EPICOR study investigated the association of GI and GL with coronary heart disease (CHD) in a large and heterogeneous cohort of Italian men and women originally recruited to the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition study.

METHODS: We studied 47 749 volunteers (15 171 men and 32 578 women) who completed a dietary questionnaire. Multivariate Cox proportional hazards modeling estimated adjusted relative risks (RRs) of CHD and 95% confidence intervals (CIs).

RESULTS: During a median of 7.9 years of follow-up, 463 CHD cases (158 women and 305 men) were identified. Women in the highest carbohydrate intake quartile had a significantly greater risk of CHD than did those in the lowest quartile (RR, 2.00; 95% CI, 1.16-3.43), with no association found in men (P = .04 for interaction). Increasing carbohydrate intake from high-GI foods was also significantly associated with greater risk of CHD in women (RR, 1.68; 95% CI, 1.02-2.75), whereas increasing the intake of low-GI carbohydrates was not. Women in the highest GL quartile had a significantly greater risk of CHD than did those in the lowest quartile (RR, 2.24; 95% CI, 1.26-3.98), with no significant association in men (P = .03 for interaction).

CONCLUSION: In this Italian cohort, high dietary GL and carbohydrate intake from high-GI foods increase the overall risk of CHD in women but not men.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20386010

I personally think, if you're not fat, enjoy your white rolls. Maybe in light of research like the above it is worth going brown a bit more often - you get used to it quite quickly and the white bread tastes extra awesome if its an occasional treat IME.

lee_baby_simms

Edit - what bottle of smoke says...

Live at Three wrote: »

Yeah some sort of non sugary breakfast cereal plus a 'normal' dinner when I get home; spuds/rice/pasta with meat and veg. What happens when you overdose on carbs?

Well theres different types of carbs. If you eat high GI (glycemic index) carbs they'll raise blood sugar levels rapidly in your system which in turn leads to lots of insulin spikes that occur as your body tries to deal and disperse sugars.

The problem is that not only is the excess sugar stored as fat but too much insulin usually leads to eventual low blood sugar levels which in turn causes sugar cravings completing the vicious cycle. High GI carbs also lock fat cells in the body making it almost impossible to burn fat.

Shredded Wheat is a high GI food. In fact it causes the same kind of insulin spike as the same amount of coca cola.

Humans simply aren't designed to eat lots of wheat and grains. Starches and sugars make people fat not saturated fats. Conventional wisdom on this matter is bogus and theres a ton of evidence out there to support that.

senordingdong

The lettuce wrap is a great idea imo.

Will try it but I usually pack my sambos full of gear so I may need a new approach!