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GERD (acid Reflux)

  • 10-10-2010 2:59pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 160 ✭✭


    Not sure if this can be posted here if not maybe the mods can move it to the right section.

    Over the last few months I get a tightness in my throat after eating and want to burp but cant but I can force air up from my stomach that makes a noise in my chest/neck kinda like a burp that helps the pressure a bit. I also wake up mornings with sore throat.

    Anyway went to my gp and he first though I had maybe cut my throat eating something hard so gave me antibiotics to heal incase of infection but was no good. Went back Friday and i got stuff for acid reflux that seemed to work straight away. During my times with these problems I gave up dairy and tea/coffee. This morning I had porridge tea and toast and it came back with a bang.

    Does anyone else here suffer with GERD and do you find dairy making it worse?


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭fend


    Some carbs can really bring it on. Then again, it could be the coffee.

    It really varies from person to person and I'm sorry to say, a majority of the time, it's trial and error. Make a note of the food/drinks that trigger it and do your best to avoid them. What prescription did you GP give you for the acid reflux? Losec and Nexium are great little tablet and I really swear on the Nexium, although some GP's may only prescribe this for more severe cases.

    Like I said, trial and error is your only option. Also, try to avoid drinking anything to concintrated as that can be a major trigger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 160 ✭✭OneForTheTeam


    Hey thanks for the reply, Im on nexazole but still waking with sore throats and having pressure in throat after eating and nose feeling blocked up. I now think Im allergic to dairy. As the tablets dont seem to be working too well.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    I don't have GERD but I had a peptic ulcer years ago and I found that porridge made me very acidic. Coffee is another trigger for acid production. I was on Losec and it was marvellous.
    One of the best things you can do for GERD is to raise the top of your bed to stop the acid coming up at night. Raising your pillows won't do, you need a brick under each leg at the top of the bed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭rosco p coltrane


    I had this years ago. Sometimes it feels like there is something caught in your throat, or something growing in your throat !!

    I got rid of mine by removing all the acid producing foods from my diet.

    All you are going to do is balance the acidity levels in your body.

    Acid producing foods:

    Peppers, red, yellow, green.
    Tomatoes
    Cabbage
    White onions subsitute with red onions

    Coffee
    Spirits
    Wine

    Dairy
    Youghurts will pass

    Google for acid producing foods. You'll find some fruits also to be added to this list.

    But remember, you're only avoiding these foods for a short period of time in order to reduce the amount of acid in your system, and to be aware that your probably consuming too many acidic foods in your diet.

    Once you've been told that it's acid reflux by your doc, you now know what you have to do. Medicines may help initially, but you have to change what you are putting inside yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭dunsandin


    Suffered badly with this for years, then I bought some apple cider vinegar in tescos and mixed a teaspoon into a small glass of water, drank it, and it is no longer an issue. I took it on the advice of a friend, and it was the best tip anybody ever gave me. I used to be really, desperatly ill with acid indigestion. I had ulcers, reflux, the whole thing, At first I took the vinegar daily, now I take it about once every two months. It is such a simple cure, but it is beyond brilliant. Try it once, its a revelation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭mossfort


    dunsandin wrote: »
    Suffered badly with this for years, then I bought some apple cider vinegar in tescos and mixed a teaspoon into a small glass of water, drank it, and it is no longer an issue. I took it on the advice of a friend, and it was the best tip anybody ever gave me. I used to be really, desperatly ill with acid indigestion. I had ulcers, reflux, the whole thing, At first I took the vinegar daily, now I take it about once every two months. It is such a simple cure, but it is beyond brilliant. Try it once, its a revelation.

    i suffer from gerd with a hiatus hernia for a few years .
    i,ve tried the cider vinegar in the past but its hard to stomach the stuff. i was also concerned with if it was doing more harm than good.
    one for the team have you spoken to your gp about getting a gastroscopy done to see what might be wrong .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 160 ✭✭OneForTheTeam


    Thanks for the replys guys

    dunsandin wrote: »
    Suffered badly with this for years, then I bought some apple cider vinegar in tescos and mixed a teaspoon into a small glass of water, drank it, and it is no longer an issue. I took it on the advice of a friend, and it was the best tip anybody ever gave me. I used to be really, desperatly ill with acid indigestion. I had ulcers, reflux, the whole thing, At first I took the vinegar daily, now I take it about once every two months. It is such a simple cure, but it is beyond brilliant. Try it once, its a revelation.

    I got that last Wednesday got the one with mother in it. I have been taking it twice daily. How long did it take it to work for you?
    mossfort wrote: »
    i suffer from gerd with a hiatus hernia for a few years .
    i,ve tried the cider vinegar in the past but its hard to stomach the stuff. i was also concerned with if it was doing more harm than good.
    one for the team have you spoken to your gp about getting a gastroscopy done to see what might be wrong .


    I found if i hold my nose while drinking cider vinegar its not as bad.



    I also seem to be doing damage to my throat at night I must be trying to clear it in my sleep and hurting it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭dunsandin


    I had no ill effects from Apple cider vinegar at all. When I was suffering from ulcers et al, my GP told me I would have to start on medication and remain on it for life. I thought to myself"feck that", and took the vinegar. It worked. Yes, it tastes sh1te, but get over it, because it works. When you no longer need to take the vinegar, you will know, because your body will literally reject it and it will come out of your nose and be totally unswallowable. Stop taking it then. Why the pharma crowd sell any ant- acids is beyond me, because this is natures antacid, and could do more good for more people if it was wider known. Tell a friend, please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,458 ✭✭✭CathyMoran


    If you have acid reflux it is advisable to have it checked out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 160 ✭✭OneForTheTeam


    dunsandin wrote: »
    I had no ill effects from Apple cider vinegar at all. When I was suffering from ulcers et al, my GP told me I would have to start on medication and remain on it for life. I thought to myself"feck that", and took the vinegar. It worked. Yes, it tastes sh1te, but get over it, because it works. When you no longer need to take the vinegar, you will know, because your body will literally reject it and it will come out of your nose and be totally unswallowable. Stop taking it then. Why the pharma crowd sell any ant- acids is beyond me, because this is natures antacid, and could do more good for more people if it was wider known. Tell a friend, please.

    How long did it take the vinegar to work for you? I have been taking 2 desert spoons in warm water twice a day.
    CathyMoran wrote: »
    If you have acid reflux it is advisable to have it checked out.

    Got a swab done of my throat should get the results this week.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    I also seem to be doing damage to my throat at night I must be trying to clear it in my sleep and hurting it.

    Acid will make your throat feel very sore. Raising the top end of your bed will stop the acid coming up as far.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 160 ✭✭OneForTheTeam


    Anyway got the throat swab back and it was negative for acid. Sure unsure what to do now must go back and visit my gp but he will only send me off to and ENT doc and prob be waiting weeks as only have a medical card.

    I have been on anti acid now for 10days 1 of Nexazole 40mg a day and im taking apple cider vinger twice a day, i do feel a bit better not as bad but still not great.

    Still have the feeling of something in my throat and nose kinda blocked up, stomach doesnt feel great either and chest. Im not over weight or anything and dont get sick much.

    What tests can be done for acid reflux just because a swab of my throat came back neg i still think I have it. How long did it take the tablets for ye to work?

    Will visit my gp again 2mro:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭dunsandin


    If the cider vinegar does not work very fast(almost immediate), it won't work, you may be better off using peppermint oil capsules. Get the slow release ones. You may have a more ibs related problem as opposed to acid. Peppermint tea will also help. Avoid eating highly processed biscuits like digestives, rich tea etc, and avoid milk. Coffee will also not help, so maybe cut it out for a bit. Chocolat/bars and Ice-cream are another no-no if you suffer from stomach issues. I also see an awful lot of teenagers with dreadful acne who would benefit greatly from eliminating those and taking a very small amount of cider vinegar - it really improves skin condition. A very important point is to brush your teeth immediatly after taking the vinegar, as it is not good to allow it to sit in your mouth(hard on teeth). Just re-read the op, and porridge is massively hard on a lot of peoples stomachs, you are either porridge tolerant, or should avoid oats like the plague. Oat allergies in young children and babies have led to a lot of very very ill kids.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 160 ✭✭OneForTheTeam


    dunsandin wrote: »
    If the cider vinegar does not work very fast(almost immediate), it won't work, you may be better off using peppermint oil capsules. Get the slow release ones. You may have a more ibs related problem as opposed to acid. Peppermint tea will also help. Avoid eating highly processed biscuits like digestives, rich tea etc, and avoid milk. Coffee will also not help, so maybe cut it out for a bit. Chocolat/bars and Ice-cream are another no-no if you suffer from stomach issues. I also see an awful lot of teenagers with dreadful acne who would benefit greatly from eliminating those and taking a very small amount of cider vinegar - it really improves skin condition. A very important point is to brush your teeth immediatly after taking the vinegar, as it is not good to allow it to sit in your mouth(hard on teeth). Just re-read the op, and porridge is massively hard on a lot of peoples stomachs, you are either porridge tolerant, or should avoid oats like the plague. Oat allergies in young children and babies have led to a lot of very very ill kids.

    Hi thanks for your reply, weird thing is i have been having porridge all my life 365 days a year so weird it could affect me now. Im booked in to see the doc tomorrow so im going to asked to be sent to a ENT and maybe get some xrays done and stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,458 ✭✭✭CathyMoran


    OP - has your doctor referred you to a gastrenterologist - it is better to be safe than sorry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 160 ✭✭OneForTheTeam


    CathyMoran wrote: »
    OP - has your doctor referred you to a gastrenterologist - it is better to be safe than sorry.

    No but i will say it to him tomorrow thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭Kayly


    dunsandin wrote: »
    Suffered badly with this for years, then I bought some apple cider vinegar in tescos and mixed a teaspoon into a small glass of water, drank it, and it is no longer an issue. I took it on the advice of a friend, and it was the best tip anybody ever gave me. I used to be really, desperatly ill with acid indigestion. I had ulcers, reflux, the whole thing, At first I took the vinegar daily, now I take it about once every two months. It is such a simple cure, but it is beyond brilliant. Try it once, its a revelation.

    I have taken the cider vinegar in water recently too..having been on zantac for years on and off. The improvement was almost immediate...I went from that swollen-neck feeling with awful acid reflux to almost no symptoms, within 2 days. Im taking 2 teaspoons in a glass of water twice a day and no tabs and throat feels better than it has in months.:) Am a bit worried about effect of vinegar on my teeth tho..is it better to wash em imediately after taking it or a while later, as Ive read somewhere else? Anyone know the answer to this?:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Rickey01


    Acid reflux commonly occurs when the lower esophageal sphincter doesn't close properly and stomach contents leak back into the esophagus. The main symptoms are the burning sensation in your chest or throat. Often acid reflux is worse after eating and can be worse when lying down. Medications are commonly used in acid reflux treatment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    I'm almost certain I have GERD, I'm off to the GP tomorrow. Constantly clearing my throat, heartburn, nausea etc - not very pleasant. Have been taking Gaviscon for the last few weeks, it's helped a lot. Think it's time for a change of diet too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭MASTER...of the bra


    Kayly wrote: »
    I have taken the cider vinegar in water recently too..having been on zantac for years on and off. The improvement was almost immediate...I went from that swollen-neck feeling with awful acid reflux to almost no symptoms, within 2 days. Im taking 2 teaspoons in a glass of water twice a day and no tabs and throat feels better than it has in months.:) Am a bit worried about effect of vinegar on my teeth tho..is it better to wash em imediately after taking it or a while later, as Ive read somewhere else? Anyone know the answer to this?:confused:
    Drink a bit of water after taking the vinegar and then wait for your own saliva to bring your mouths ph balance back to normal (15mins) and then brush or try and just swallow using a straw.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 bonnie_


    Hi all, I have been suffering with acid reflux for the last few months which has caused a few very painful bouts of Esophagitis.
    My GP referred me for a Breath test which can detect a bacteria which sometimes lives in the stomach called Helicobacter pylori which causes excess acid and often leads to ulcers.
    The test came back positive and I'm now on a 2 week course of antibiotics which should get rid of it for good (I hope!). It is definitely worth discussing with your GP as it is not always food choices that cause acid reflux.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,689 ✭✭✭Vain


    Hi guys what alcohol can you drink when you have acid reflux, im only 22 and after getting this so its a pain, I heard guinness wasnt as bad as others?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭S.R.F.C.


    Vain wrote: »
    Hi guys what alcohol can you drink when you have acid reflux, im only 22 and after getting this so its a pain, I heard guinness wasnt as bad as others?

    Jesus i'd love to know an answer to this as well, i'm not even 22 but thinking about just giving up on the drink, or else maybe just very rarely. I've had an endoscopy and all that malarky and now im on Romep for life really it seems, going to really try sort out the diet and see what affect that has

    If anyone has any general diet/home remedy recommendations they'd be much appreciated, going to give the ACV/eating apples a go, i've seen cinnamon mentioned before as well so might try that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭hdowney


    i have had GERD and Hiatus Hernia for yrs. someone tell me what this cider vinegar thing is pls?

    i have tried several type of tablets. nexium made me violently ill. i am on lanzoprazole at the mo. works most of the time. sometimes i have to take two. sometimes even two doesn't work.

    sometimes i can drink. sometimes i can't.

    bread/fat/milk etc is a nono (also have IBS)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭rosco p coltrane


    Hi there,

    Listen, first things first, if your getting acid reflux, ulcers blah, blah, blah, its your body telling you that its not happy with what your putting into it. This does not mean that you have to cut out certain foods forever, it just means that you have to change what your putting into it.

    On the alcohol front, i had acid reflux a few years back, whiskey and basically all spirits are a no no, and come to think of it beer (including guinness) should not be taken either. Give yourself a rest, give your body a rest. I'm not a big fan of drugs (prescriptive) at all, (most doctors i've met aren't big fans of holistic/natural methods of healing, but prefer ramming drugs down your neck) and usually try whatever's natural, mainly foods.

    Give this a read : http://www.getridofthings.com/get-rid-of-acid-reflux.htm

    On the apple cider vinegar front: go in to a health food shop and buy "Aspall Organic Apple Cyder Vinegar", it'll cost you about 3 or 4 euros, take a teaspoon of it in a glass of water, its a great tonic for the body. If you want the benefits of it, google benefits of apple cider vinegar, there is just too many to mention.

    But the first thing you should do is consume less acidic foods, tomatoes, peppers, spicy foods, alcohol, smokes, - your body is just telling you - it needs a break.

    Hope some of this helps.

    Be good,

    R. P. C.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭S.R.F.C.


    On that link you stuck up, it mentions getting exercise after eating, i've read conflicting reports on this, maybe as it seems with many things associated with GERD it's very much individual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭ilovelamp2000


    I was diagnosed with GERD in Jan 2010, but Ive pretty much managed to get rid of it. I was taking 80mg Omeprazole daily at the beginning, but now I take the odd 20mg usually after a heavy night on the beer.

    As part of my training routine I occasionally go on no carb diet for about 3 weeks to lean out and lose a bit of weight. It seems to have cured my GERD as well but i don't really know how it managed it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭S.R.F.C.


    I was diagnosed with GERD in Jan 2010, but Ive pretty much managed to get rid of it. I was taking 80mg Omeprazole daily at the beginning, but now I take the odd 20mg usually after a heavy night on the beer.

    As part of my training routine I occasionally go on no carb diet for about 3 weeks to lean out and lose a bit of weight. It seems to have cured my GERD as well but i don't really know how it managed it.

    I've heard low carb is good for it all right. Anything else you did to get rid of it? I was having it worse than ever but recently changed my diet to some extent, basically just been a bit more sensible, and have started taking ACV and yeah i'm definitely seeing a big improvement. Don't really fancy taking drugs for the rest of my life!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Rickey01


    Acid reflux treatment may vary from person to person, depending on the severity of the sickness and the individual’s body situation. Acid reflux is a disease that cannot be cured easily it needs lot of care and treatment to be undergone. One should never ignore thinking it is a minor problem he should go to doctor as soon as he feels uneasiness in his stomach and ask for the treatment required to be followed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭rosco p coltrane


    S.R.F.C. wrote: »
    On that link you stuck up, it mentions getting exercise after eating, i've read conflicting reports on this, maybe as it seems with many things associated with GERD it's very much individual.

    I'd worry more about what you're putting inside you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭angelll


    Hope it's ok to bump this thread,i'm 31,female and have been suffering from acid in the throat and ibs for years but now it's getting worse. For the last 3 weeks i've had a lump in my throat,tightness in chest, cough, tonsillitis, palpitations etc and it's all pointing to gerd. I drink too much coffee,eat crap food and smoke so big changes have to be made. Has anyone gone completely cold turkey and been fine or should i eliminate one step at a time? I'm currently on zantac & gaviscon for acid,zirtek for post nasal drip and prednesol steroids (as my chest is tightening a lot and has some sounds so may have aspirated something from the reflux..fun :() Help!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    i have this gerd with about seven yrs now, it cause pain all over the chest, and sometimes the shoulders and joints when it is very bad,
    when the acid is at its worst for me, i take a half teaspoon in water and it helps very fast,
    i also find it is not good to go without food for a long time,
    and also when on long journey i get pain in my right shoulder and arm from sitting there, so to releive it i buy soda water that also helps when travelling.
    also red apples help when one needs a snack when travelling, but green apples aggreviate it,
    i find that sweet food is a big culprit,
    when i was diagnosed about seven yrs ago, it took doctors 4 months to come up with answers, i had to be transported by ambulance as they thought i was having a heart attack, at that time i could not breathe and had the chest pain, but the pain had come down both arms, being worse on the right arm,
    i was put on heart medication, and asprin was one of the tablets, they nearly killed me, it was not bad enough having ulcer but having asprin every day drove it worse,
    so i had to have an angeogram as they could not work out why i was getting worse instead of better,
    that showed i had a perfect heart,
    so they did that test where they stick a probe into the stomach and there the answer was found,
    when blood tests were done, the acid was so high that they had not seen that reading before,
    i was on a host of tablets for a while, and got my health back,
    and today i know i have to keep off the spirits and beer, but i do drink guinness and it is ok, but it is seldom that i drink anyway,
    i loved wine, always had a few glasses at weekends, but now if i have a glass, i am in agony the following day,
    i also find cheese, beef, lamb bring on problems for me, so i have little meat with plenty veg, and i get away with it,, and i loved my steak and roast beef, i lived on it, and also lamb, but now i would have half a steak and just one slice of lamb and wanting more, but know that it would bring on pain and that is enough of a deterrent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭hdowney


    goat2 wrote: »
    i have this gerd with about seven yrs now, it cause pain all over the chest, and sometimes the shoulders and joints when it is very bad,
    when the acid is at its worst for me, i take a half teaspoon in water and it helps very fast,
    i also find it is not good to go without food for a long time,
    and also when on long journey i get pain in my right shoulder and arm from sitting there, so to releive it i buy soda water that also helps when travelling.
    also red apples help when one needs a snack when travelling, but green apples aggreviate it,
    i find that sweet food is a big culprit,
    when i was diagnosed about seven yrs ago, it took doctors 4 months to come up with answers, i had to be transported by ambulance as they thought i was having a heart attack, at that time i could not breathe and had the chest pain, but the pain had come down both arms, being worse on the right arm,
    i was put on heart medication, and asprin was one of the tablets, they nearly killed me, it was not bad enough having ulcer but having asprin every day drove it worse,
    so i had to have an angeogram as they could not work out why i was getting worse instead of better,
    that showed i had a perfect heart,
    so they did that test where they stick a probe into the stomach and there the answer was found,
    when blood tests were done, the acid was so high that they had not seen that reading before,
    i was on a host of tablets for a while, and got my health back,
    and today i know i have to keep off the spirits and beer, but i do drink guinness and it is ok, but it is seldom that i drink anyway,
    i loved wine, always had a few glasses at weekends, but now if i have a glass, i am in agony the following day,
    i also find cheese, beef, lamb bring on problems for me, so i have little meat with plenty veg, and i get away with it,, and i loved my steak and roast beef, i lived on it, and also lamb, but now i would have half a steak and just one slice of lamb and wanting more, but know that it would bring on pain and that is enough of a deterrent.


    Can I ask 'what' you take half a teaspoon of in water?

    Lamb is a complete cnut for me. I LOVE LOVE LOVE lamb, but it hates me. A little bit and a I broke up from it. Dairy is another. I can have a smidge in my tea, a smidge for my cereal and a bit of butter. but if I have even a small amount of say ice-cream, I am dying in next to no time :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    i take the bread soda because it turns the acid alkali, when it is burnign the throat off me, breadsoda is the only answer, it works the fastest when in a rut,
    and you are right about the lamb, of the meats i mentioned, it is the worst for me too,
    i find deflatine handy to have if i have to eat out,
    and eating out is hard also, as we need to know that is included in a dish down to the last herb,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭hdowney


    goat2 wrote: »
    i take the bread soda because it turns the acid alkali, when it is burnign the throat off me, breadsoda is the only answer, it works the fastest when in a rut,
    and you are right about the lamb, of the meats i mentioned, it is the worst for me too,
    i find deflatine handy to have if i have to eat out,
    and eating out is hard also, as we need to know that is included in a dish down to the last herb,

    God yes, eating out is a minefield. Particularly Chinese!!! Pretty much everything in the Chinese is bound to kill :( I must look into bread soda.

    I'm getting another scope Monday week, cos I have been REALLY suffering and they wanna see what's up


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭Kayly


    I suffered daily from acid reflux for years, and tried many of the mentioned remedies and medicines. Last year I went on a healthy diet, lost 2.5 stone and havent had a symptom since. It might not be the answer for everyone, but it worked for me, and I feel better than I have in years. I know thats not as easy as it sounds, but if I can do it, anyone can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    hdowney wrote: »
    God yes, eating out is a minefield. Particularly Chinese!!! Pretty much everything in the Chinese is bound to kill :( I must look into bread soda.

    I'm getting another scope Monday week, cos I have been REALLY suffering and they wanna see what's up
    i can understand your prediciment, but i find that christmas is a very hard time for the likes of us, i love socailising and entertaining at christmas, and then there are those boxes of chocolate and i cannot stop at one, i do ask family to keep them out of my sight, have them when i am not looking, and i always suffer for up to six weeks after,
    yes chinese is a killer, i avoid that, and did love it,
    i have got the feeling that it is the food that take longest to digest that gives the most trouble, like red meat and cheese,
    i also found that cod liver oil which i took for a while to help with joints it just brought the acid on worse, had to scrap that idea,
    as for the person who said losing weight does the job, well this illness just knocked all the weight i had to lose, and it did not do the trick,
    i have a friend who is whip thin, and he suffers from this also, and makes no difference, as he was always thin,
    i beleive that sometimes people mistake this disease with artherites, as it causes pain in joints when acid as at a high level.
    when i was to a doctor lately and complained of the joint pain, they thought i may have artherites, but i upped the ante and started taking deflatine after each meal and bread soda at night, and after about 3 days on that the joints felt perfect, i am on a 20mg losec per day,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    Tried bread soda last year for a while, and whilst it did work I was talking to my dad one day about it and he said, Your grand dad took that 50 years ago before rennies etc. He said it completely ruined his stomach. When I thought about it it made sense when you think about how caustic it is so I stopped taking it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭locum-motion


    dunsandin wrote: »
    ... because this is natures antacid...

    Hmmm. Vinegar is "natures antacid", is it?
    Bit odd, given that vinegar is an acid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    if i eat anything that contain vinegar, it just burn the stomach and cause real acid reflux,
    i do see on here where people say cider vinegar was good, but i cannot say the same


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    goat2 wrote: »
    if i eat anything that contain vinegar, it just burn the stomach and cause real acid reflux,
    i do see on here where people say cider vinegar was good, but i cannot say the same

    I have recently been diagnosed with barretts osephagus, hiatus hernia, severe acid reflex, ulcers etc...and at age of 34 with 3 children it is REALLY hard. Im on nexazole twice daily and motilium s
    the same but i still have symptoms but it is bad flactulance that demonstrates effect except wen have big meals and then im really poorly (pain/diarrhoea) for @ least a week. Cut out dairy, caffeine, wheat (nearly all except weekend treat of one bottle corrs light) alcohol but interested in apple cider vinegar i thought vinegar acidic so how does it help. Docs/healers/herbalists reckon mine is from stress and can't take that from lifestyle :'(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Viola85


    Hi

    Where in Dublin can I do in private impedance ph-monitoring? How much does it cost? What the doctor gastroenterologist recommend?

    Thanks
    Viola


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭Omega28


    I've also suffered with this for a long time now, so I've complied a list of foods that I feel are safe and foods that make it worse, for me, but everyone is different though.

    Triggers:

    Chocolate (Dark and Milk)
    Heavy Dairy, such as greek yogurt, full fat milk, cream.
    Onions
    Peppers, green, red.
    Spicy Food
    Curry sauces
    Green Apples
    Mash Potato (in large quantities)
    Popcorn
    Fatty/Greasy/Fried Foods

    Foods that help/I eat on a daily basis:

    Porridge (I eat tons of this, have done for years, I make it with water every morning, topped off with berries/flaxseed/stevia/honey)
    Red Apples
    Black Berries, Raspberries
    Bananas
    Rice (Wholegrain)
    Eggs
    Low Low Sliced Cheese
    Fish
    Chicken/Turkey
    Red Meat (not too much)
    Veg
    Digestive/Rich Tea Biscuits are fine for me, for now anyway, I'd have 2 a day.
    Brown Bread, multi-seed bread
    Almonds, Almond butter, I swear by them.
    Manuka Honey
    Brown Pasta
    Stevia instead of sugar

    My Tips:

    1.Drinking lots of water, Peppermint Tea also works wonders too!

    2.Try eating a Red Apple after a big meal, works a dream.

    3.Almonds, these are amazing too and help the pH levels in your stomach.

    4. Chewing Gum, mint flavor, helps digestion, remember digestion starts in the mouth.

    5.* Exercise/Walking, this for me is key, helps digestion so much, combined with some stretching/yoga.

    6. Slow your eating down

    7. Don't leave yourself too hungry

    Personally, this diet has worked for me, it may not work for you. Keep the exercise up and fiber up in your diet, and see if there is any change in your GERD.

    Keep a food diary, that's key, and start eliminating foods that aggravate your GERD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    the stuffing in chicken and turkey is another food that puts me in agony,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭hdowney


    burnt to a crisp here now at the moment. started very suddenly and i hadn't eaten anything in ages. goodness knows what brought it on but dear god :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    fasting or not eating is very bad with acid problems, acid build up in stomach with no food to absorb it ,
    do people get pain in jaw, also pain out right shoulder blade and out right side of back, that is one of the signs i get, also the joints can get painful if it is let get too bad,
    i find cheese is another no no, or steak and lamb, foods that take longest to digest,
    Chinese food which i also love is also an awful culprit.
    fries, chips,
    i guess the motto with what we have to do is a very healthy diet, which is hard when there are more living with us that dont know what this thing is like,
    they buy all this food which i love but should not eat but i do, and then suffer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭Hello Lady!


    I can totally sympathise - when I was pregnant I had pre eclampsia and the high blood pressure gave me heartburn that would literally take my breath away and feel like I was being ripped in two, through my chest and out through my back. And if you've never had such bad reflux then you can't understand just inward it can be and calling it 'heartburn' or 'indigestion' just doesn't convey the terrible pain of it.

    My poor babies, only 11 weeks old have silent acid reflux since 4 weeks old. It took quite a while for the symptoms to get extreme enough to be certain it was acid reflux, initially it could have been a few things (wind, constipation, type of formula etc) so we had to exclude things till we knew it was reflux. At 6 weeks it was clear it was reflux and by 8 weeks they were put on losec. They have been doing well on that, but I am dreading when teething starts as it increases the acid in saliva so even sucking their soother which helps now will make it worse!

    I am looking into various non-medical solutions and today had them at craniosacral therapy/osteopathy to see if that might help. They both have very tight diaphragm's which, while it doesn't cause reflux, it doesn't help. That and also helping their posture is the plan.

    It has also been recommended that they try some probiotics to help minimise acid production so that they only have enough to digest food and not overproduce acid. Udos choice is the brand that was recommended.

    Just a thought for those of you suffering with reflux.

    Also, some of you probably already know this, but if you are taking rantidine (common brand is Zantac) you shouldn't use Gaviscon or similar within 30 mins of each other. If you are on losec or some other brand omeprazole then drink some orange juice or something acidic just after taking it and avoid anything milky for 30 mins.

    And next time you are dying with it, just spare a thought for my 11 week old girls who are going through what you are and are totally helpless and reliant on adults to try and figure out how they're feeling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Has anybody tried soda water?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Vain wrote: »
    Hi guys what alcohol can you drink when you have acid reflux, im only 22 and after getting this so its a pain, I heard guinness wasnt as bad as others?

    I'm no expert, but the general consensus is that lager is very hard on the stomach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭Dilly.


    goat2 wrote: »
    fasting or not eating is very bad with acid problems, acid build up in stomach with no food to absorb it ,
    do people get pain in jaw, also pain out right shoulder blade and out right side of back, that is one of the signs i get, also the joints can get painful if it is let get too bad,
    i find cheese is another no no, or steak and lamb, foods that take longest to digest,
    Chinese food which i also love is also an awful culprit.
    fries, chips,
    i guess the motto with what we have to do is a very healthy diet, which is hard when there are more living with us that dont know what this thing is like,
    they buy all this food which i love but should not eat but i do, and then suffer

    I'm mid 20's and have had this since I was about 16/17. Was hooked up to a heart monitor as the pain was so bad in my chest, arm an jaw the doctor was concerned it was a heart problem! Thankfully I haven't had the jaw pain recently, it scares me as I don't know anyone else who experiences that!

    My trigger foods are:
    Tomatoes and orange juice (both of which I totally avoid now)
    Alcohol
    Spicy food
    Fizzy drinks
    Too many take away foods etc
    Stuffing...not sure if it's the fat or onion!

    When I am bad with it foods I eat to get back to normal over the next few days would be:
    White rice
    Potatoes
    Milk
    Rice pudding
    White bread
    Bananas
    Plain chicken/chicken in a creamy sauce

    Comparing my list to one of a poster above me just proves the foods that trigger it greatly depend on the individual so it really is a matter of trial and error.

    I take protium 20mg when needed. Some weeks this is daily, sometimes not at all!


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