Amazing Muslim Power Shown In Paris - Vid

digme · 07-10-2010 2:19pm #1

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I thought I'd highlight a point made in another thread to show you why there is anti Muslim sentiment in different EU countries.Multiculturalism doesn't work,multi-racialism does.

seamus · 07-10-2010 2:20pm

Content please.

Nodin · 07-10-2010 2:22pm

OP, Why are you posting bollocksology from a known bigots network? The lolz...?

Sykk · 07-10-2010 2:24pm

Wow, that truly is scary. Can you imagine if streets full of Catholics started saying the hail mary in Pakistan? There'd be fcucking war

smokedeels · 07-10-2010 2:24pm

I was hoping for video evidence of a Muslim "super power", I'm disappointed.

_feedback_ · 07-10-2010 2:24pm

digme a big hole and throw the thread in it.

fontanalis · 07-10-2010 2:26pm

What's the video off?

strobe · 07-10-2010 2:27pm

seamus wrote: »

Content please.

A bunch of Muslims in Paris organised a big "lets get together and pray in front of shop fronts and in the street" protest deally.

EDIT: Scratch that. Sorry. Wasn't a protest. No sound on this computer. Some guy just went around Paris with a video camera recording Muslims praying in the street.

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2010/August/Islamization-of-Paris-a-Warning-to-the-West/

"is camera shows that Muslims "are blocking the streets with barriers. They are praying on the ground. And the inhabitants of this district cannot leave their homes, nor go into their homes during those prayers."

The Muslims taking over those streets do not have any authorization. They do not go to the police headquarters, so it's completely illegal," he says.

The Muslims in the street have been granted unofficial rights that no Christian group is likely to get under France's Laicite', or secularism law.

"It says people have the right to share any belief they want, any religion," Lepante explained. "But they have to practice at home or in the mosque, synagogues, churches and so on."

Some say Muslims must pray in the street because they need a larger mosque. But Lepante has observed cars coming from other parts of Paris, and he believes it is a weekly display of growing Muslim power.

"They are coming there to show that they can take over some French streets to show that they can conquer a part of the French territory," he said.

Seems like some bloke trying to sh1t stir.

Nodin · 07-10-2010 2:28pm

Sykk wrote: »

Wow, that truly is scary. Can you imagine if streets full of Catholics started saying the hail mary in Pakistan? There'd be fcucking war

I wouldn't be taking that video at face value.
Its from here - http://www.cbn.com/

Its run by Pat Robertson, who is something of a nut and a right wing hawk.

reprazant · 07-10-2010 2:29pm

Sykk wrote: »

Wow, that truly is scary. Can you imagine if streets full of Catholics started saying the hail mary in Pakistan? There'd be fcucking war

Would you prefer if Europe was like Pakistan?

Would you prefer to live in an intolerant, backward, brutal country like that?

Sykk · 07-10-2010 2:30pm

reprazant wrote: »

Would you prefer if Europe was like Pakistan?

Would you prefer to live in an intolerant, backward, brutal country like that?

I don't think you understood my post. Read it again.

ascanbe · 07-10-2010 2:31pm

What's amazing about it? It's just a bunch of Muslim's praying on the street.
The cameraman, by the way, seems to be walking around the same area over and over again in an attempt to give the impression that there are numerous streets blocked off.
Basically, this seems like some kind of religion based protest; there have been many examples of this kind of thing in Ireland.
How does this herald the imminent 'Islamisation' of France, as this preposterous report suggests?

Donkey Oaty · 07-10-2010 2:31pm

Illegal street protests? They sound like true Frenchmen.

Allez Allah!

fontanalis · 07-10-2010 2:33pm

Sykk wrote: »

I don't think you understood my post. Read it again.

I did, what's your point? Do you want to have the same standards of pakistan.
I mightn't like a bunch of people having an imaginary friend fest, but the whole point of having a lot of freedoms is you're not meant to like them all.

Nodin · 07-10-2010 2:34pm

Its a bit odd to pray in the street for any number of reasons. However, as this video comes from the same fecker who came out with this crap
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Robertson_controversies
we may never know.

Maybe the Mosque was being done up.....

fontanalis · 07-10-2010 2:36pm

Using Pat Robertson to back up a point (unless you're mocking him) should guarantee that person no credibility in future arguements.

orourkeda · 07-10-2010 2:41pm

Nodin wrote: »

OP, Why are you posting bollocksology from a known bigots network? The lolz...?

Are you posting this because it's bollocksology or because you just don't want to hear it.

orourkeda · 07-10-2010 2:43pm

Sykk wrote: »

Wow, that truly is scary. Can you imagine if streets full of Catholics started saying the hail mary in Pakistan? There'd be fcucking war

They are asking western society to provide them with freedoms that they are completely unwilling to grant to western citizens in a muslim country in return.

Political correctness has a lot to answer for.

fontanalis · 07-10-2010 2:43pm

orourkeda wrote: »

Are you posting this because it's bollocksology or because you just don't want to hear it.

??

orourkeda · 07-10-2010 2:45pm

fontanalis wrote: »

??

I thought it was a simple enough question.

fontanalis · 07-10-2010 2:45pm

orourkeda wrote: »

They are asking western society to provide them with freedoms that they are completely unwilling to grant to western citizens in a muslim country in return.

Political correctness has a lot to answer for.

So you think people of a different religion shouldn't be allowed to pray in public? Is that not political correctness (spits) on your behalf?

fontanalis · 07-10-2010 2:46pm

orourkeda wrote: »

I thought it was a simple enough question.

No it wasn't? Relying on Pat Robertson to report on religous extremism is nonsense. Nodin was making a simple point.

Donkey Oaty · 07-10-2010 2:46pm

Nodin wrote: »

Its a bit odd to pray in the street for any number of reasons

In Europe, yes, but I've seen scenes almost identical to the ones in the video in Morocco.

irishconvert · 07-10-2010 2:51pm

What a load of bollocks that so called "news report" is. It is just Muslims praying on the street because there is not enough room in the Mosque for friday prayer. Friday prayer lasts 5 minutes and all Muslims must pray together at the same time. If they help the Muslims get a bigger mosque, problem solved.

orourkeda · 07-10-2010 2:54pm

fontanalis wrote: »

So you think people of a different religion shouldn't be allowed to pray in public? Is that not political correctness (spits) on your behalf?

I never said that. So please stop trying to put words into my mouth.

My position is that I have no problem with freedom of religious expression. My problem is if it's done in a manner which a) is illegal b) impacts upon people who dont practice this religion (albeit only blocking off a road)

orourkeda · 07-10-2010 2:55pm

irishconvert wrote: »

What a load of bollocks that so called "news report" is. It is just Muslims praying on the street because there is not enough room in the Mosque for friday prayer. Friday prayer lasts 5 minutes and all Muslims must pray together at the same time. If they help the Muslims get a bigger mosque, problem solved.

If a group of non muslims gathered in public in a muslim country to publicly express their faith would they be treated in this manner.

reprazant · 07-10-2010 2:56pm

orourkeda wrote: »

They are asking western society to provide them with freedoms that they are completely unwilling to grant to western citizens in a muslim country in return.

Political correctness has a lot to answer for.

So you would prefer to live in an intolerant, backward country where there is a different hierarchy of rights based on ones religion?

orourkeda · 07-10-2010 3:01pm

reprazant wrote: »

So you would prefer to live in an intolerant, backward country where there is a different hierarchy of rights based on ones religion?

Perhaps I misheard or took it up the wrong way but wasn't it said that this was illegal in France.

They can do all the praying they like. It wouldnt bother me particularly but religion shouldnt be above the law. It seems relatively innocent but it is still against the law.

irishconvert · 07-10-2010 3:01pm

orourkeda wrote: »

If a group of non muslims gathered in public in a muslim country to publicly express their faith would they be treated in this manner.

But that is not what happened. The Muslims didn't gather in public to express their faith, their mosque was completely full and they had no option but to pray on the road. Hey, the same happens in South Circular Road mosque, except they have a yard to pray in. Go down any Friday about 1pm and you will see lots of Muslims praying in the yard, clearly visible fromt he street. Now if the muslim population was to dramitically rise I predict they would also pray on the footpath. But it would be because they have no other alternative.

orourkeda · 07-10-2010 3:09pm

irishconvert wrote: »

But that is not what happened. The Muslims didn't gather in public to express their faith, their mosque was completely full and they had no option but to pray on the road. Hey, the same happens in South Circular Road mosque, except they have a yard to pray in. Go down any Friday about 1pm and you will see lots of Muslims praying in the yard, clearly visible fromt he street. Now if the muslim population was to dramitically rise I predict they would also pray on the footpath. But it would be because they have no other alternative.

I understand that. I don't have any problem with people not having the room. It also says in this video (10 seconds in) that this is all illegal in Paris.

If it wasnt illegal would there be any problem with people praying in public? Now I'm not well up on what the laws concerning freedom of religious expression on the south circular road but what would the position be if it was illegal.

ascanbe · 07-10-2010 3:10pm

orourkeda wrote: »

They are asking western society to provide them with freedoms that they are completely unwilling to grant to western citizens in a muslim country in return.

Political correctness has a lot to answer for.

No. You're suggesting that we go against our culture/beliefs regarding freedom of religion and follow the example of these muslim countries, because you despise the culture/beliefs of these muslim countries and how they conduct themselves.

It's jumbled-up thinking.

Stinicker · 07-10-2010 3:13pm

orourkeda wrote: »

I understand that. I don't have any problem with people not having the room. It also says in this video (10 seconds in) that this is all illegal in Paris.

If it wasnt illegal would there be any problem with people praying in public? Now I'm not well up on what the laws concerning freedom of religious expression on the south circular road but what would the position be if it was illegal.

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0808/race-card-demotivational-poster-1220047846.jpg

irishconvert · 07-10-2010 3:13pm

orourkeda wrote: »

I understand that. I don't have any problem with people not having the room. It also says in this video (10 seconds in) that this is all illegal in Paris.

If it wasnt illegal would there be any problem with people praying in public? Now I'm not well up on what the laws concerning freedom of religious expression on the south circular road but what would the position be if it was illegal.

Who made that video? Can you not hear the scaremongering running right throughout it. I don't have time to look into who made the video but I would be very secptical of their motives.

orourkeda · 07-10-2010 3:18pm

ascanbe wrote: »

No. You're suggesting that we go against our culture/beliefs regarding freedom of religion and follow the example of these muslim countries, because you despise the culture/beliefs of these muslim countries and how they conduct themselves.
It's jumbled-up thinking.

I never mentioned whether or not I despised these countries or not. To jump to this conclusion is a little premature and short sighted. I asked the question whether or not they would be so tolerant with non muslims who broke the law in their country while expressing their religious beliefs.

Again, the way in which the muslims in this report expressed their beliefs was against French law. It has nothing to do with whether you think I hate muslim countries or not.

orourkeda · 07-10-2010 3:20pm

irishconvert wrote: »

Who made that video? Can you not hear the scaremongering running right throughout it. I don't have time to look into who made the video but I would be very secptical of their motives.

The christian broadcasting network I believe. I dont know that much about them so I can't comment.

Why are you sceptical of their motives?

ascanbe · 07-10-2010 3:20pm

Stinicker wrote: »

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0808/race-card-demotivational-poster-1220047846.jpg

Yeah. Those damn blacks have been lording it over America for centuries now.
Poor white-man can't catch a break. :rolleyes:

irishconvert · 07-10-2010 3:22pm

orourkeda wrote: »

The christian broadcasting network I believe. I dont know that much about them so I can't comment.

Why are you sceptical of their motives?

Have you listened to the reporter in the video? Do you think there is any scaremongering going on or is there a realistic chance of Sharia Law in Paris. I mean, for crying out loud, that is not a remote possibility, why are they trying to make people nervous about it?

ascanbe · 07-10-2010 3:23pm

orourkeda wrote: »

I never mentioned whether or not I despised these countries or not. To jump to this conclusion is a little premature and short sighted. I asked the question whether or not they would be so tolerant with non muslims who broke the law in their country while expressing their religious beliefs.

Again, the way in which the muslims in this report expressed their beliefs was against French law. It has nothing to do with whether you think I hate muslim countries or not.

I thought you were suggesting that they should be treated in western countries as you'd imagine Christians would be treate in Islamic countries.
If they are breaking the law and continue to do so, i'd imagine the French authorites will deal with it as they see fit.

orourkeda · 07-10-2010 3:27pm

irishconvert wrote: »

Have you listened to the reporter in the video? Do you think there is any scaremongering going on or is there a realistic chance of Sharia Law in Paris. I mean, for crying out loud, that is not a remote possibility, why are they trying to make people nervous about it?

Thats your opinion. The worshippers broke french law and thats all there is to it. If muslims want to pray fair enough. Thats not the issue. It must be done within the confines of the society and laws they operate in.

If the broadcasters have an agenda then thats up to them and frankly I dont care. It's not something I'd subscribe to. I know little or nothing about the broadcasters so for me or anyone else to apologise for a broadcasting corporation they know little about would be foolish.

orourkeda · 07-10-2010 3:30pm

ascanbe wrote: »

I thought you were suggesting that they should be treated in western countries as you'd imagine Christians would be treate in Islamic countries.
If they are breaking the law and continue to do so, i'd imagine the French authorites will deal with it as they see fit.

No. Absolutely not. I believe they are as entitled as anyone to express themselves and their religious beliefs in the same way as anyone else. As I've said earlier I only believe they should do so within the laws of the land.

irishconvert · 07-10-2010 3:31pm

orourkeda wrote: »

Thats your opinion. The worshippers broke french law and thats all there is to it. If muslims want to pray fair enough. Thats not the issue. It must be done within the confines of the society and laws they operate in.

If the broadcasters have an agenda then thats up to them and frankly I dont care. It's not something I'd subscribe to. I know little or nothing about the broadcasters so for me or anyone else to apologise for a broadcasting corporation they know little about would be foolish.

Do you believe the broadcast gives a fair and balanced account of what really happened? Yes or no.

enfant terrible · 07-10-2010 3:31pm

irishconvert wrote: »

Have you listened to the reporter in the video? Do you think there is any scaremongering going on or is there a realistic chance of Sharia Law in Paris. I mean, for crying out loud, that is not a remote possibility, why are they trying to make people nervous about it?

Are you for or against Sharia Law been implemented in Europe?

orourkeda · 07-10-2010 3:34pm

irishconvert wrote: »

Do you believe the broadcast gives a fair and balanced account of what really happened? Yes or no.

Its whether or not it's correct that matters. Most media outlets operate to some form of agenda so to expect balance or fairness isnt always reasonable. Not necessarily religious agendas.

strobe · 07-10-2010 3:38pm

orourkeda wrote: »

The christian broadcasting network I believe. I dont know that much about them so I can't comment.

Why are you sceptical of their motives?

The Christian Broadcasting Network is the brain child of Pat Robertson.

Here are some words of wisdom from Paddy:

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."

"It may be a blessing in disguise. ... Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it. Haitians were originally under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon the third, or whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, we will serve you if you will get us free from the French. True story. And so, the devil said, okay it's a deal. Ever since they have been cursed by one thing after the other."

"Many of those people involved in Adolf Hitler were Satanists, many were homosexuals - the two things seem to go together."

"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."

and for the grand finale.
"I have a zero tolerance for sanctimonious morons who try to scare people." :rolleyes:

Jamie Starr · 07-10-2010 3:41pm

I was really hoping this was about a Muslim who was exposed to gamma rays.

irishconvert · 07-10-2010 3:41pm

orourkeda wrote: »

Its whether or not it's correct that matters. Most media outlets operate to some form of agenda so to expect balance or fairness isnt always reasonable. Not necessarily religious agendas.

Why can't you answer the question? Do you personally believe that news report gave a fair and balanced view of the events?

orourkeda · 07-10-2010 3:45pm

strobe wrote: »

The Christian Broadcasting Network is the brain child of Pat Robertson.

Here are some words of wisdom from Paddy:

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."

"It may be a blessing in disguise. ... Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it. Haitians were originally under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon the third, or whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, we will serve you if you will get us free from the French. True story. And so, the devil said, okay it's a deal. Ever since they have been cursed by one thing after the other."

"Many of those people involved in Adolf Hitler were Satanists, many were homosexuals - the two things seem to go together."

"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."

and for the grand finale.
"I have a zero tolerance for sanctimonious morons who try to scare people." :rolleyes:

I dont know whay that was directed at me. I didnt come here as an apologist for the christian broadcasting network and have said so in a previous post. It's not the CBN that I came here to speak and to do so would be to move away from the topic at hand.

orourkeda · 07-10-2010 3:46pm

irishconvert wrote: »

Why can't you answer the question? Do you personally believe that news report gave a fair and balanced view of the events?

Because this thread isnt about my opinion on fair and balanced news reporting. Unless of course there's something you want me to say.

irishconvert · 07-10-2010 3:53pm

orourkeda wrote: »

Because this thread isnt about my opinion on fair and balanced news reporting. Unless of course there's something you want me to say.

Your avoidance of giving a simple answer leads me to believe you don't believe it is a fair report, but you are one of those people who doesn't like to admit when they are wrong.

strobe · 07-10-2010 3:56pm

orourkeda wrote: »

I dont know whay that was directed at me. I didnt come here as an apologist for the christian broadcasting network and have said so in a previous post. It's not the CBN that I came here to speak and to do so would be to move away from the topic at hand.

It wasn't directed at you Orourkeda. It was directed at Pat, bit hypocritical of him considering the preceding quotes from him I listed.

orourkeda · 07-10-2010 3:57pm

irishconvert wrote: »

Your avoidance of giving a simple answer leads me to believe you don't believe it is a fair report, but you are one of those people who doesn't like to admit when they are wrong.

Wrong about what? The fact that you believe that the report is biased or the actual content of the report that this thread was set up to discuss.

You're the one who brought it off topic in a bid to make me admit I'm wrong about something thats irrelevant to the conversation. If the content is wrong, I'll apologise for listening to it. If it's at least factually correct then your and my opinion on whether it's fair or balanced is a non topic.

Amazing Muslim Power Shown In Paris - Vid

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