Work on Wolfe Tone Bridge

dolphin city

Beware - work on Wolfe Tone Bridge has started in earnest this morning. Left for work this morning at 8 p.m. (driving from Knocknacarra area). Was at Maher's shop at approx. 8.45 a.m.

Traffic stopped going both ways from Wolfe Tone Bridge. So be prepared to be late for work, be stuck in traffic for long spells.

Why they can't do this work at night is beyond me - instead of waiting till the busiest time of day when people trying to get to work or school. Hopefully sometime soon people will actual brains might start running this godforsaken country.

biko

It's because of the tides.


http://www.galwaynews.ie/15305-%E2%80%98essential%E2%80%99-work-city-bridge-and%E2%80%88quirke-rd-disrupt-traffic

A stop-go traffic lights system will operate on the Wolfe Tone Bridge from Wednesday morning next to allow for essential maintenance work to be carried out on the structure; while a one-way traffic system will be in operation on the eastern section of the Seamus Quirke Road.

Work on the Wolfe Tone Bridge, which involves the use of a specialist bridge access machine, has to be based on low tide times which unfortunately for next week will generally coincide with the early morning peak traffic times. Wolfe Tone Bridge is a key link between the Claddagh and the city centre.

The bridge maintenance works will be carried out each day, three hours either side of low tide. On Wednesday next this will be from 7.30am to 1.30pm; on Thursday, 8am to 2pm, and on Friday from 8.45am to 2.45pm.“

dolphin city

thanks biko

just wondering does low tides only happen when people are back and school and work. Is there no low tides in the summer holidays when you can get into town in ten minutes no problem. Or does the low tides not occur during mid term breaks when traffic is at a minimum. I suppose low tides only occurs when every bit of traffic that has to be on the road is on the road.

I refer back to my last comment - someday, we might get some people with brain cells to run this hellhole.

biko

I don't know why, maybe you should ask one of the engineers next time you go past? There may be a good explanation for that too.

JoeA3

Traffic was *insane* around Fr. Griffin Rd, approaching the Wolfe Tone bridge this morning... grrrrrr! I have to echo "dolphin city"'s comments - why do it now, when schools are all back and the winter mornings are approaching - i.e. when traffic is at it's worst anyway!

And the works on Bishop O'Donnell affect the other escape routes... so there's no avoiding it.

dolphin city

biko wrote: »

I don't know why, maybe you should ask one of the engineers next time you go past? There may be a good explanation for that too.

probably get the same old gem of an answer - I don't know,not my department.

McTigs

I flew through on the bike.

traffic lol

[/smug]

SteveSilverhead

dolphin city wrote: »

Beware - work on Wolfe Tone Bridge has started in earnest this morning. Left for work this morning at 8 p.m. (driving from Knocknacarra area). Was at Maher's shop at approx. 8.45 a.m.

Traffic stopped going both ways from Wolfe Tone Bridge. So be prepared to be late for work, be stuck in traffic for long spells.

Why they can't do this work at night is beyond me - instead of waiting till the busiest time of day when people trying to get to work or school. Hopefully sometime soon people will actual brains might start running this godforsaken country.

The tides are here:
http://www.sailing.ie/dynamic/pdf/Galway%20October%202010.pdf

What they've said already is that this week the work is being done 3 hours before and after the low tide. So today that would presumably have been any time from 07:25 through 13:25.

Presumably they can't use the late night low tide for various reasons...

dolphin city

SteveSilverhead wrote: »

The tides are here:
http://www.sailing.ie/dynamic/pdf/Galway%20October%202010.pdf

What they've said already is that this week the work is being done 3 hours before and after the low tide. So today that would presumably have been any time from 07:25 through 13:25.

Presumably they can't use the late night low tide for various reasons...

or the mid-term or summer low tides don't work for them either.

Xiney

dolphin city wrote: »

or the mid-term or summer low tides don't work for them either.

low tides do vary with the distance of the moon. Perhaps they need a VERY low tide.

dolphin city

Xiney wrote: »

low tides do vary with the distance of the moon. Perhaps they need a VERY low tide.

:D

or maybe they just have VERY low IQ's up there :P

maybe the distance of the moon/tides had something to do with their decision to do work on the busiest roads in galway at the busiest time of the year in galway - lunatic's.

snubbleste

I don't agree that it is the worst time of year to do this work. During the summer, it would be far worse and would affect far more people in particular those with tourist dollars.

It was flagged that this would be happening and that delays would be caused. Any local knows how bad this is going to get over the next week or so.
It is not as though nobody knew about it.

Fey!

They did have big signs up about this since the weekend.

Unfotunately, as usual when it comes to GCC, the signs weren't in a position for a large number of motorists to read!!!

dolphin city

snubbleste wrote: »

I don't agree that it is the worst time of year to do this work. During the summer, it would be far worse and would affect far more people in particular those with tourist dollars.

It was flagged that this would be happening and that delays would be caused. Any local knows how bad this is going to get over the next week or so.
It is not as though nobody knew about it.

oh please snubblest - were you actually IN Galway during the summer - its a long time since the town was over-run with tourists and tour buses - people have more sense than to come here and you will be hard pressed to find a tour in on two consecutive days anymore.

also shouldn't it be tourist EURO'S - not tourist DOLLARS. WE ARE living in Europe you know - although you could be forgiven for thinking we are another state of the usa, we have our heads stuck so far up their a**se.

galah

snubbleste wrote: »

I don't agree that it is the worst time of year to do this work. During the summer, it would be far worse and would affect far more people in particular those with tourist dollars.

It was flagged that this would be happening and that delays would be caused. Any local knows how bad this is going to get over the next week or so.
It is not as though nobody knew about it.

I don't really think that if they did those works during the summer, that many tourists would be affected at that time in the morning, since there's no school traffic at all. I think tourists would vene put up with it, since they'd be in town anyway - it's not like they'd check the traffic report and then choose to come to Galway or not....

They could have at least moved those works into the midterm break...

snubbleste

dolphin city wrote: »

oh please snubblest - were you actually IN Galway during the summer - its a long time since the town was over-run with tourists and tour buses - people have more sense than to come here and you will be hard pressed to find a tour in on two consecutive days anymore.

Yes I was, all summer long. Tourists don't mean tour buses exclusively.
And yes the traffic was bad this summer with loads of tailbacks.

?Cee?view

Can everyone just please remember when the next elections come around that it's thanks to the Greens, Labour and ex-Labour councillors that the bypass which would save us from all this traffic chaos, has been scrapped?

This bridge and Quirke Road would be no problem if most people could use the bypass to get from West to East and vice versa.

dolphin city

snubbleste wrote: »

Yes I was, all summer long. Tourists don't mean tour buses exclusively.
And yes the traffic was bad this summer with loads of tailbacks.

ah so you agree there was plenty of tailbacks in the summer - this is the time when the schools are off the road, and as you say yourself no tour buses exclusively, and no colleges , and you think that NOW is still a better time to do it than in the Summer when EVERYONE is back at school, EVERYONE is back at college, and buses galore, bad weather and people trying to get in and out to work.

you kinda shot yourself in the foot with that post of yours snubbleste - if the place had loads of tailbacks in the summer without all that traffic why oh why do they start work now when it is FULL of non summer traffic :D:D

Dunjohn

Well, Saturn and Mercury probably weren't aligned in summer.

coconut5

It's a nightmare. I'm actually dreading leaving the office today, it will probably take an hour to get to Salthill.

clived2

dolphin city wrote: »

Beware - work on Wolfe Tone Bridge has started in earnest this morning. Left for work this morning at 8 p.m. (driving from Knocknacarra area). Was at Maher's shop at approx. 8.45 a.m.

Traffic stopped going both ways from Wolfe Tone Bridge. So be prepared to be late for work, be stuck in traffic for long spells.

Why they can't do this work at night is beyond me - instead of waiting till the busiest time of day when people trying to get to work or school. Hopefully sometime soon people will actual brains might start running this godforsaken country.

05 October 2010
"Essential refurbishment works to the Wolfe Tone Bridge will start on Wednesday next, 6th October 2010. The project will last for approximately 2 weeks. The work on the bridge is being carried out now to coincide with seasonal Spring/Low Tides which allows access to the under-side of the Wolfe Tone Bridge."




That is from the Galway City Council Website, The only person who has shown a lack of "actual brains" is your good self.


I find your whole demeanour in this thread, to be childish,

You would probably be the first person out complaining if there was an accident on this bridge

McTigs

churchview wrote: »

Can everyone just please remember when the next elections come around that it's thanks to the Greens, Labour and ex-Labour councillors that the bypass which would save us from all this traffic chaos, has been scrapped?

This bridge and Quirke Road would be no problem if most people could use the bypass to get from West to East and vice versa.

This man so, number wan all the way!

?Cee?view

clived2 wrote: »

05 October 2010
"Essential refurbishment works to the Wolfe Tone Bridge will start on Wednesday next, 6th October 2010. The project will last for approximately 2 weeks. The work on the bridge is being carried out now to coincide with seasonal Spring/Low Tides which allows access to the under-side of the Wolfe Tone Bridge."




That is from the Galway City Council Website, The only person who has shown a lack of "actual brains" is your good self.


I find your whole demeanour in this thread, to be childish,

You would probably be the first person out complaining if there was an accident on this bridge

Why the personal attack?

The City Council have decided to start works on a bridge over the Corrib on the exact same day that they start works on a road leading to another bridge over the Corrib.

There are only four bridge over the Corrib and they've effectively knocked out 50% of them at the same time.

...and you've a problem with dolphin city :rolleyes:

?Cee?view

McTigs wrote: »

This man so, number wan all the way!

Oh God no.

xtradel

clived2 wrote: »

I find your whole demeanour in this thread, to be childish,

You would probably be the first person out complaining if there was an accident on this bridge

Originally Posted by dolphin city
Beware - work on Wolfe Tone Bridge has started in earnest this morning. Left for work this morning at 8 p.m. (driving from Knocknacarra area). Was at Maher's shop at approx. 8.45 a.m.

Well in all fairness clived2....it took dolphin city over 12 hours to get to work

clived2

churchview wrote: »

...and you've a problem with dolphin city :rolleyes:

You make some good points.I never said doing both roads at the same time
was a good idea, just the need to do the bridge, at this time of year and those times.

His reasons make dont any sense, yet he probaby would never admit he was wrong,

If you read his posts, he is just eager to critize gcityc and will probaby jump on your valid post, in retort to my post while ignoring how wrong he actually was

McTigs

churchview wrote: »

Oh God no.

please, i was hardly being serious

he'll never have time, what with all the funerals he's expected at.

dolphin city

clived2 wrote: »

05 October 2010
"Essential refurbishment works to the Wolfe Tone Bridge will start on Wednesday next, 6th October 2010. The project will last for approximately 2 weeks. The work on the bridge is being carried out now to coincide with seasonal Spring/Low Tides which allows access to the under-side of the Wolfe Tone Bridge."




That is from the Galway City Council Website, The only person who has shown a lack of "actual brains" is your good self.


I find your whole demeanour in this thread, to be childish,

You would probably be the first person out complaining if there was an accident on this bridge

did you jump out of bed on the wrong side this morning - maybe you should get back in and try again tomorrow.

I would definitely be out complaining, yes, if there was an accident on the bridge that was caused by the council - why not - too long mouths were kept shut in this place and look what happened - whats your point?

My opinion is that they could have used their brains picking a time doing this work instead of doing it at the height of traffice coming into the winter when everyone is on the road and there are other disruptions going on in the town with roadworks. You might find that childish of me, but thats your narrow opinion for which you are entitled, however nonsensical it is dear.

?Cee?view

clived2 wrote: »

You make some good points.I never said doing both roads at the same time
was a good idea, just the need to do the bridge, at this time of year and those times.

His reasons make dont any sense, yet he probaby would never admit he was wrong,

If you read his posts, he is just eager to critize gcityc and will probaby jump on your valid post, in retort to my post while ignoring how wrong he actually was

Thanks for your reply, but I can't see that he's wrong.

The Council are using the excuse of the tides. The tides run in 6 hour cycles, so the work they're doing now could be done at night with little traffic inconvenience.

dolphin city

xtradel wrote: »

Well in all fairness clived2....it took dolphin city over 12 hours to get to work

hilarious - that was a good one :D
dont' be surprised if it does tomorrow tho. they might have another brainless wave and close down another major artery into the city.

but hey, don't mention it or you will be called childish :p:p:p

clived2

xtradel wrote: »

Well in all fairness clived2....it took dolphin city over 12 hours to get to work

I hope he has a mobile with internet, to complain to the web

lol... nice spot

wet-paint

Word. You see private contrators doing work at night all over the place, so why not the council?

dolphin city

clived2 wrote: »

You make some good points.I never said doing both roads at the same time
was a good idea, just the need to do the bridge, at this time of year and those times.

His reasons make dont any sense, yet he probaby would never admit he was wrong,

If you read his posts, he is just eager to critize gcityc and will probaby jump on your valid post, in retort to my post while ignoring how wrong he actually was

no, i'd rather jump on your nonsensical post - and while I am at it, what makes you think i am a "he". what part of your brain worked that out from my post? better luck next time. :rolleyes:


while I have you, can you elaborate on "which reasons don't make any sense" - don't understand that at all, or are you just posting for the sake of post - I wait, in anticipation for your reply....

clived2

churchview wrote: »

Thanks for your reply, but I can't see that he's wrong.

The Council are using the excuse of the tides. The tides run in 6 hour cycles, so the work they're doing now could be done at night with little traffic inconvenience.

Even if that was the case, It would be a health and safety issue at any rate,
with preference given to lives of the people working on that bridge. Health & Safety laws are very strict and even gcc would have to abide to them. And
before you mention artificial lighting, no matter what, it is not as safe as natural light.There are other reasons also

dolphin city

clived2 wrote: »

Even if that was the case, It would be a health and safety issue at any rate,
with preference given to lives of the people working on that bridge. Health & Safety laws are very strict and even gcc would have to abide to them. And
before you mention artificial lighting, no matter what, it is not safe as natural light.There are other reasons also

LOL - so the ONLY time they can work on the bridge now for health and safety reasons is THIS WEEK, when another major artery is being worked on - give up now clived or they'll be hiring yourself to dig a big hole. :D

?Cee?view

clived2 wrote: »

Even if that was the case, It would be a health and safety issue at any rate,
with preference given to lives of the people working on that bridge. Health & Safety laws are very strict and even gcc would have to abide to them. And
before you mention artificial lighting, no matter what, it is not safe as natural light.There are other reasons also

Sorry, but that sounds daft to me. Applying that logic, no roadworks or building work would ever take place at night. Just because the work is near water doesn't make it inherently more dangerous to use natural light.

clived2 wrote: »

There are other reasons also

Such as?..and which justify starting this work at the same time as the Quirke road works?

clived2

dolphin city wrote: »

no, i'd rather jump on your nonsensical post - and while I am at it, what makes you think i am a "he". what part of your brain worked that out from my post? better luck next time. :rolleyes:
.

I apologize for calling you a man. I am able to apologize when I make a mistake.

dolphin city wrote: »

while I have you, can you elaborate on "which reasons don't make any sense" - don't understand that at all, or are you just posting for the sake of post - I wait, in anticipation for your reply....

The work on the bridge is being carried out now to coincide with seasonal Spring/Low Tides which allows access to the under-side of the Wolfe Tone Bridge.
So you want to do the work when?

clived2

churchview wrote: »

Sorry, but that sounds daft to me. Applying that logic, no roadworks or building work would ever take place at night. Just because the work is near water doesn't make it inherently more dangerous to use natural light.



Such as?..and which justify starting this work at the same time as the Quirke road works?

I am not defending starting the Quirke roads at the same time which I have made clear already. I am not defending gcc;)

Working in the middle of the night would cost nearly twice the price is one.
which as we all know cannot be underlooked in todays climate

If a worker fell in the water, the chances of survival are a lot lower

clived2

dolphin city wrote: »

LOL - so the ONLY time they can work on the bridge now for health and safety reasons is THIS WEEK, when another major artery is being worked on - give up now clived or they'll be hiring yourself to dig a big hole. :D

As i expected, you jumped on another posters point,(which is exactly what I said you would do) which I have stated I am not defending already.

Why dont you argue your orginal point:D:D:D oh yeah ....

dolphin city

clived2 wrote: »

I apologize for calling you a man. I am able to apologize when I make a mistake.



The work on the bridge is being carried out now to coincide with seasonal Spring/Low Tides which allows access to the under-side of the Wolfe Tone Bridge.
So you want to do the work when?

spring tides or low tides have absolutely nothing to do with the season or time of year - it has to do with the moon being full - are you trying to now say that this week is the only time there is a full moon?

it gets worse

dolphin city

clived2 wrote: »

I am not defending starting the Quirke roads at the same time which I have made clear already. I am not defending gcc;)

Working in the middle of the night would cost nearly twice the price is one.
which as we all know cannot be underlooked in todays climate

If a worker fell in the water, the chances of survival are a lot lower

have you ever heard of lighting??? give it up - you walked yourself into a hole and you keep digging and digging - trying to defend the idiots with the timetables.

clived2

dolphin city wrote: »

spring tides or low tides have absolutely nothing to do with the season or time of year - it has to do with the moon being full - are you trying to now say that this week is the only time there is a full moon?

it gets worse

That is the quote from GCC website, when do you propose to do the works.

clived2

dolphin city wrote: »

have you ever heard of lighting??? give it up - you walked yourself into a hole and you keep digging and digging - trying to defend the idiots with the timetables.

zzzzzzz as expected your not reading anything but whats in your head
You are not reading my posts, I mentioned lighting earlier and already gave my reasons why I thought they couldn`t use it. Go back and read it.

?Cee?view

clived2 wrote: »

which I have stated I am not defending already.

So what are you defending?

It's really unclear what you're saying here other than personally attacking dolphin city for some reason.

dolphin city

clived2 wrote: »

That is the quote from GCC website, when do you propose to do the works.

if you read my posts you will actually see on more than one occasion when I suggest they might have thought to do the work. but then again, you are not interested in reading posts - you are more interesting in insulting other posters and defending the idiots running this place - enjoy it - next time, read up on something before you attack.

regarding your silly post re. they can't work using lighting - does that apply to all the council jobs or just to people working on the wolfe tone bridge - can they go up poles in the dark using lights, or can they do other things in the dark using lights, or are you trying to say that they can only work during hours of the day when the sun is shining and no artificial lighting will do - maybe it is the artificial lights you have a problem with - gawd help us all.

clived2

churchview wrote: »

So what are you defending?

It's really unclear what you're saying here other than personally attacking dolphin city for some reason.

I am defending the gcc decesion to perform the works on wolfe tone bridge only at this time, which although might be highly unpopoular due the amount of people caught up in traffic on this bridge

dolphin city

clived2 wrote: »

That is the quote from GCC website, when do you propose to do the works.

can you show me where this is a quote from the GCC website?

dolphin city

clived2 wrote: »

I am defending the gcc decesion to perform the works on wolfe tone bridge only at this time, which although might be highly unpopoular due the amount of people caught up in traffic on this bridge

only at what time? You need to elaborate on this so that people don't think you are a troll -

specifically, what time are you talking about???

?Cee?view

clived2 wrote: »

I am defending the gcc decesion to perform the works on wolfe tone bridge only at this time, which although might be highly unpopoular due the amount of people caught up in traffic on this bridge

Thanks.

Now ignore dolphin city* for a second and explain why:

1. It's a good idea to start at this time, the same day the another 25% capacity across the river is blocked, meaning that 50% will be blocked in total. Could it not have been done at an earlier spring tide, if that is indeed a valid reason?

2. If water height is the reason, would it not be a better idea to do this in Summer when the water coming from the lake is more controllable?

3. Why not do this at night? - and the lighting thing is a red herring.

4. Why do this when primary, secondary and University traffic has just returned a few weeks ago?

The only valid excuse is that without the work being done now, the bridge would collapse, and that couldn't be the case or it would be completely closed.


* Nothing personal against Dolphin City but I'm just interested to see if you've a point

clived2

Last time

dolphin city wrote: »

probably get the same old gem of an answer - I don't know,not my department.

This is an insult, to every working member of GCC, Infact they are very helpfull if you know what your looking for no i dont work there

dolphin city wrote: »

summer low tides don't work for them either.

so your saying summer

dolphin city wrote: »

:D

or maybe they just have VERY low IQ's up there :P

Another insult,

dolphin city wrote: »

oh please snubblest - were you actually IN Galway during the summer - its a long time since the town was over-run with tourists and tour buses - people have more sense than to come here and you will be hard pressed to find a tour in on two consecutive days anymore.

also shouldn't it be tourist EURO'S - not tourist DOLLARS. WE ARE living in Europe you know -

Nice condscending reply there, maybe snubblest was refering to dollars, as in tourist money,

dolphin city wrote: »

ah so you agree there was plenty of tailbacks in the summer - this is the time when the schools are off the road, and as you say yourself no tour buses exclusively, and no colleges , and you think that NOW is still a better time to do it than in the Summer

Summer is when you want to do this

dolphin city wrote: »

if you read my posts you will actually see on more than one occasion when I suggest they might have thought to do the work. but then again, you are not interested in reading posts - you are more interesting in insulting other posters and defending the idiots running this place - enjoy it - next time, read up on something before you attack.

No I read them, You want summer

?Cee?view

clived2 wrote: »

Last time


This is an insult, to every working member of GCC, Infact they are very helpfull if you know what your looking for no i dont work there


so your saying summer


Another insult,


Nice condscending reply there, maybe snubblest was refering to dollars, as in tourist money,



Summer is when you want to do this



No I read them, You want summer

But what's your opinion, other than just attacking dolphin city?