SGU 2x02 "Aftermath"

Overheal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBxF-T4JtrM

Overheal

Yay, they have control of the ship.

But this episode felt kinda incohesive. This would have been the sort of story that would have worked very well in SG-1 but I think the problem/difference is that it's being told from way more perspectives. Where SG-1 had 1 perspective almost all of the time, we had about 4 here and it felt a little unfullfilling in places. It's hard to stay interested when you can see every angle, there was no suspense. I think it would have been a better episode if Rush's discovery was left unrevealed until the end of the episode.

Didn't want to see that guy go. He was an alright character. But I've never seen it quite done like that and it will probably have a carry on effect.

So now Destiny has no Shuttles.

Columc

Fantastic unbelievable as always SGU

Going to miss Riley, was always a good support character with comments in the Show. I like how they boosted his character morals up before he was injurer with the whole POW situation

I just love the small parts that they have in the show that is down to detail, such as Eli worrying about the explosion, it just emphasis that they are out by themselves, experienced still learning the technology of the Stargates again.

From watching the Season 2 trailer I wounder what is out there. Yargh cant wait for next week

somuj

Cant wait to find out what this mission is

VinLieger

Mediocre episode should have been more about

the picking of the Lucian alliance people they could trust than about reilly dying, but Rush gaining control and ****ing up was interesting. Been waiting for some characters to die as there has been an influx of newbies and whatever about there being to many charcters its more important not to have too many actors budget wise
Now the object from watching the season trailer it looked be some kind of dock designed for the destiny but there was only a few ****ty frames to see

hightower1

Now thats what SGU should be like all the time, little bit of destiny tech , progression in terms of exploring destiny / the mission, really deep character development, real consequences etc. Reminded me of the very first few episodes with Rushes sneakiness / cowardliness and the sense of responsibility portrayed by Young.

I can see Young really taking a turn for the worse out of this, it seemed to effect him pretty deeply. I would imagine the direction they will go now is seeing him go off the rails somewhat and Telford having to pick up the slack.

The object they are headed for is one of Destinys gate seeding ships, will more than likely find out more about the ships mission there seeing as its the entire theme of this season as I understand from gateworld. If so the premise of the next ep will be continuation of that theme and HOPEFULLY will look to keep up the pace seen here. Not breakneck , but definitely moving nicely and fitting for the show. Looks like there will be more aliens aboard the seeder ship and not ones we have seen already as per the pic below fr the heading on the like below...
http://www.gateworld.net/universe/s2/203.shtml

A

Loved that scene with Young and Reid, Justin Louise really impressed in that and afterwards. Looking forward to more of the same.

AlmightyCushion

I thought it was boring. The only part that interested me was rush getting control of the ship and the end.

docdolittle

I can't find this episode anywhere this week!

Edit: actually... nevermind, found it somewhere

don ramo

solid solid episode, threw it entirely differently to what i was expecting, i was expecting this episode to be LA focused,

it was good to see the some of the LA story sorted with a load being left go, so i saw the old-doll stayed, t-bag stayed, and the leader that was kicked off the ship stayed,

im a bit dissapointed reilly died, he was a good caracter and was fun in the kino episodes, (btw are they still doing them), i was half expecting one the LA to have one of those hand healing devices, but it was not to be,

the bridge is cool, when its activated and it raises up from part of the ship, cant wait to see it fully staffed, it makes me wonder what else raises up from the ship, what other secrets are there,

season 2 is off to a better start than season 1 i think, i was gonna leave this episode till tommorow and watch 2 other shows, but im happy i changed my mind, and this will be top of my list next week,

Overheal

don ramo wrote: »

the bridge is cool, when its activated and it raises up from part of the ship

And I can't help but wonder: what if someone has to pee? What if you need to summon Wesley Crusher to the bridge in the middle of a dogfight?

Sarn

I like how Young stepped up at the end. Gave him a chance to show he can act when necessary. He's definitely going off the deep end though.

Some new tech at last. Rush's visions are interesting, a blend of hallucination and the ship?

ixoy

Thought this was very good.

Rush being such a control freak was done well - he can't trust anyone to delegate too. That includes Eli. It seems the only people he can be honest with are his visions... or are they visions. Hmmm....

I do agree though that Young is mentally unbalanced. I think Scott would be a far better choice for command - he's always been level headed in his decisions (well mostly), although Telford with the IOA is who we will get. As to Young - he nearly bashes someone's head in here, and then suffocates someone else (and Riley is the first person to be killed who's appeared in a good number of episodes... even if he didn't have a huge part to play).

I do like how they didn't go totally down the Maquis route and instead chucked the lot of them onto a planet with few supplies. We're left with the obvious few but the IOA angle could be interesting

Some nice scenes here too - I like the bridge and the shuttle crash scene was handled well. Good idea of having a cliffhanger ending.

Peace

I don't understand why they didn't dig the guy out from under the rocks. He was going to die either way.

Overheal

It seems the only people he can be honest with are his visions... or are they visions. Hmmm....

I like the people on this forum, and the angles they speculate on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQXiqt8wOVw

jor el

I was thinking the wife was an ascended ancient too, but it kind of makes more sense that it would be Dr. Franklin. Could also just be in his head of course. I found it funny that he was having a conversation with his dead wife about how Rush was mentally unbalanced.

VinLieger

Overheal wrote: »

I like the people on this forum, and the angles they speculate on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQXiqt8wOVw

Good theory but im putting my money on the ship leaving some kind of signature or connection in his brain and it is interacting with him thatway

GarethWA

Peace wrote: »

I don't understand why they didn't dig the guy out from under the rocks. He was going to die either way.

...bit pointless! No point in digging him out at all by your logic!

Was a good episode overall. The lack of Chloe, barring five seconds at the end, is worrying me about how Chloe-heavy the next episode will be....

Would have liked more LA vs Earth clashes regarding their situation as prisoners. Just sending most off the ship seems like a waste of what could have been quite an interesting story arc. Although, I do think we've had enough of Young v Wray for a little while!

Felt the end could've given away just a little hint as to what the object is. Kind of a lacking cliffhanger I felt.
Unfortunately I got this spoiled for myself on Gateworld by accident, and they could have done it much better. I'll say no more.

Richard Dower

SGU - RIP:

Stargate Universe (9pm)
- 1.070 million viewers
- 0.7/1 HH
- 0.5/1 A18-49

Overheal

VinLieger wrote: »

Good theory but im putting my money on the ship leaving some kind of signature or connection in his brain and it is interacting with him thatway

Like a hypothetical cylon implant?

Richard Dower wrote: »

SGU - RIP:

Stargate Universe (9pm)
- 1.070 million viewers
- 0.7/1 HH
- 0.5/1 A18-49

/ignore

Sherifu

I thought it was great. Young is in a very dark place, Rush is bat-shit crazy and Riley is no more. Can't wait for next week and the new found possibilities the bridge will bring.

token56

Peace wrote: »

I don't understand why they didn't dig the guy out from under the rocks. He was going to die either way.

I can only imagine they thought it would have caused a lot more pain and stress to dig him out, it was also limiting the bleeding, and if he was going to die anyway, why subject him to that. What Young did was the most humane in the end.

Peace

token56 wrote: »

I can only imagine they thought it would have caused a lot more pain and stress to dig him out, it was also limiting the bleeding, and if he was going to die anyway, why subject him to that. What Young did was the most humane in the end.

For future reference if i'm caught in the same spot then i'd appreciate being dug out and given a proper burial. Just incase lads... take note.

Richard Dower

Average ep.

JohnK

Peace wrote: »

I don't understand why they didn't dig the guy out from under the rocks. He was going to die either way.

If they dug him out it would have only hastened his death and served no real purpose.

mawk

would it not have been worth the attempt at amputation?
id rather die on the 'table' (floor) taking the chance than just surrender. aron ralston style ftw!

Antar Bolaeisk

mawk wrote: »

would it not have been worth the attempt at amputation?
id rather die on the 'table' (floor) taking the chance than just surrender. aron ralston style ftw!

Should have just injected him with Miraculous Healing Girl's (aka Whiny Girl) blood, would have been worth the risk.

ixoy

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

Should have just injected him with Miraculous Healing Girl's (aka Whiny Girl) blood, would have been worth the risk.

Feeling indebted to Chloe for the rest of your life is worth it? Hell no. I imagine that's why Riley really asked to be despatched - he was afraid someone would think to bring Chloe and try a blood transfusion.

RolandIRL

thought it was a good episode. not brilliant but good nonetheless. kinda shocked that Riley died :eek: didn't expect a main character(ish) to die. usually it's "we all made through despite the odds". think it's shaping up to be a good series of SGU. it seems like they have a goal now, not just episodic survival as per Season 1.

ixoy wrote: »

Feeling indebted to Chloe for the rest of your life is worth it? Hell no. I imagine that's why Riley really asked to be despatched - he was afraid someone would think to bring Chloe and try a blood transfusion.

can you imagine the horribleness of owing chloe? :eek: she might tell you to actually listen to her whinge on and on :P

GarethWA

whiteman19 wrote: »

can you imagine the horribleness of owing chloe? :eek: she might tell you to actually listen to her whinge on and on :P

Poor Scott! :eek:
Still...he is one of the very few getting some on board! :rolleyes:

FreudianSlippers

IMO this episode was OK at best. I'm very sick of the whole Rush not trusting people storyline and adding the Lucian guys to the whole military vs civilian storyline is stupid.

The thing that really strikes me now is that any show that starts pointlessly killing off good characters is taking it's death gasps IMO.

somuj

OisinT wrote: »

IMO this episode was OK at best. I'm very sick of the whole Rush not trusting people storyline and adding the Lucian guys to the whole military vs civilian storyline is stupid.

The thing that really strikes me now is that any show that starts pointlessly killing off good characters is taking it's death gasps IMO.

Six eights of the episode was questionable at best. But thats the same with every single thing broadcast since John Logie Baird got wise. From the time the transwarp dinosaurs left earth I would surmise that we have not seen an episode of any series of anything that has fully satisfied the masses.

From my perspective what it did do was open the possibilty of some fantastic questions; is Rush going insane, was he maybe always unstable, is the ship more interactive that we thought, is Franklin now apart of the A.I, what in the holy bejaysus is the purpose of ye ole' destiny. The mission!! Why did the "Aincents abandon the mission", was it because they ascended and corporeal matters didnt affect them anymore. If that was true why did Merdin not board the ship then?? How does Destiny know when a gate in not active anymore, is there a subspace link? If so does this subspace link allow all the gates to simultaneously connect and eventually allow the weary crew return home? So many more questions in my mind from a single episode

Overheal

the gates have a subspace link anyway.

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Correlative_update_system

for gating home they said early on Destiny originaly had the capacity to dial the gate back to earth (ie. 9 chevrons) but has become derelict.

somuj

Overheal wrote: »

the gates have a subspace link anyway.

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Correlative_update_system

for gating home they said early on Destiny originaly had the capacity to dial the gate back to earth (ie. 9 chevrons) but has become derelict.

Sub space link equals multi season science stuff equals rush going mad and eli putting M.I.T knowledge together plus (future seeder seed ship knowledge) ascended franklin and dead rush knowledge to the multi gateway home

did ya ever wish after a few beers sg was real and you were a member

somuj

Overheal wrote: »

the gates have a subspace link anyway.

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Correlative_update_system

for gating home they said early on Destiny originaly had the capacity to dial the gate back to earth (ie. 9 chevrons) but has become derelict.

Just checked out that link. SG1; that program only happens once in a blue moon tho. When stellar drift, if affecting the position of the gates. if I rememer the episode correctly.

If I was interpreting Rushy correctly in the last epidode what he was refereing to was a real time link to the gates. As in "Destiny" knew the current status of the gate.

Overheal

yeah but i figure Destiny was designed that way, whereas gates are only designed to do it every century or so.

somuj

Overheal wrote: »

yeah but i figure Destiny was designed that way, whereas gates are only designed to do it every century or so.

I'm thinking of the big picture tho. Why does it know what the gates are doing and why is there no DHD adjacent to the gates. Maybe the Terrans figured out some way to interlink each wormhole so they would have a way back home. Mulit-console bridge, ship not supposed to be on auto-piolot. Very much doubt a suicdie mission, they could just dial in and download all the data. Only a corriodor or anulus's. Must be something to it

D-Generate

I thought now that Rush is able to control when jumps are made that it is a short step for him to be able to control direction. I would say he will be forced to turn the ship around which reminds me of my old man when we were younger and going on trips "I will turn this car right around!!!".

So Rush turns the ship around, probably because

Chloe is turning into an alien and perhaps Rush is too

. Hence they get to reintroduce those alien dudes.

GarethWA

D-Generate wrote: »

I thought now that Rush is able to control when jumps are made that it is a short step for him to be able to control direction. I would say he will be forced to turn the ship around which reminds me of my old man when we were younger and going on trips "I will turn this car right around!!!".

So Rush turns the ship around, probably because

Chloe is turning into an alien and perhaps Rush is too.

Hence they get to reintroduce those alien dudes.

I can't imagine those aliens not knowing where destiny is at the moment...
I think they know, and they are biding their time:

Perhaps waiting for Chloe to go all alien-ish and turn on the humans?

GarethWA

D-Generate wrote: »

So Rush turns the ship around,

probably because Chloe is turning into an alien and perhaps Rush is too.

Hence they get to reintroduce those alien dudes.

Dude, that you probably should have put spoiler tags on it. That info is from the teaser, not the episode in question, and should be blacked out!
(I've done it in the quote so people won't get mad at me either)

D-Generate

I didn't even know it was in the teaser as I haven't seen it, thought it was a logical assumption based on what we have seen already. Oh well, guess now I know what is in the teaser too!

Johnmb

D-Generate wrote: »

I didn't even know it was in the teaser as I haven't seen it, thought it was a logical assumption based on what we have seen already. Oh well, guess now I know what is in the teaser too!

I was about to say that too! I assumed it was a guess from the first episode when she suddenly healed up. It would seem the most likely explanation, but now we know its in a teaser, so, good guess!!

somuj

GarethWA wrote: »

I can't imagine those aliens not knowing where destiny is at the moment...
I think they know, and they are biding their time:

Perhaps waiting for Chloe to go all alien-ish and turn on the humans?

When those aliens attacked Destiny in between galaxys i'm nearly sure they came from the direction Destiny was facing :eek:

GarethWA

somuj wrote: »

When those aliens attacked Destiny in between galaxys i'm nearly sure they came from the direction Destiny was facing :eek:

But Rush mentions that they had been trying to get aboard destiny for longtimes! Also their ship that was abandoned on the desert planet?

I don't particularly think the direction they came out of FTL is any indicator of where they came from.