Growing Up Talks

Synthia123

Hi,
This is a genuine question and I don't mean to freak people out.

I remember when I was in 6th class a nurse came into the class to talk to our class about changes and puberty etc. Anyway, it was a mixed, class boys and girls, and the woman started talking about boys and wetdreams and masturbation etc, but anyway the point I wanted to make and the question I have has to do with girls.
At some point in the talk the boys left the room to play football while the nurse spoke to the girls about menstrtuation etc and when a girl asked the nurse if girls can get arroused and want to masturbate, the nurse got serious and angrily replied NO as if she was disgusted with the question.

Looking back on it now, her response was quite strange. this was only 8 years ago.
My mother never told me about masturbation and I didn't even know that girls could do this until I was quite old maybe 18 or something. I knew that guys could because there are often references made to it on Tv programmes, but with women it seems to be a taboo, which is crazy when you think about it because it is a natural human thing to do.
Anyway, I was interested to know how other girls found out about this and if they were told.
Again, I'm being genuine here, and i'm sorry if it creeps any1 out.

Maple

how did I found out about masturbation?

When I was in my first ever serious relationship, my ex and I were always at it like rabbits. We were both poor, skint students and sex was about the only thing we could afford to do.

I was so in love with him, and delighted to finally be an adult and living a grown up life (forgive me, I was 19, my head was very far up my arse), so I was so determined to be very open with him about sex and all that it entailed. I devoured Cosmopolitan and More magazine looking for hints on how to improve our sex life. I asked him loads of questions, we tried everything everywhere.

Anyway all that waffle aside, one of the best tips I ever got was that you need to know what turns you on before you can communicate this to your lover.

Xiney

I found out about masturbation when I was 8 or 9 because I was singing along to greenday and my mother seemed agitated when I sang the word "masturbation"

I didn't know what it meant but I saw her reaction (it wasn't a "you shouldn't masturbate" reaction, more of a "you shouldn't shout that word out at the top of your lungs" reaction) so I looked it up in the dictionary :P

dearg lady

We never had any kind of proper 'sex education' in school, just repeated talks about periods, 3 or 4 times I think, we were experts by the end of it!
My mam explained sex to me but masturbation never came up.
Tbh it was something I did from a very young age but is wasn't til I read a Judy Blume book, can't remember which one now, that I began to understand what it was I was doing!

m'lady

Curious here, would any mums or future mums think they would discuss masturbation with their daughter/son at around 9/10/11 ?? I have a 9 year old and while I'm very open with her, I havent gone *there* yet!

M'lady that a very interesting point ...i would be very open with my daughters about sex it was always talked of in a very matter of fact way in our house and my ex husband would be like that also...it/is was treated as information you need to know....but i think i would find it hard to talk to them about masturbation because i think somehow that a very personal aspect of sex where as talking about sex as information is easier..hope that makes sense.

terlywerly

dearg lady wrote: »

Tbh it was something I did from a very young age but is wasn't til I read a Judy Blume book, can't remember which one now, that I began to understand what it was I was doing!

Was it this one? I read it too, and it helped me along as well

Faith

I think I probably learned about it from Mizz or Sugar or Bliss or some such pre-teen magazine. I don't think my mum ever told me what it was, but I once I did know, she always told me it was dirty and bold etc. It's odd because she was always very open about sex, but masturbation was a no-no.

Nevyn

Girls usually aren't told about masturbation for fear they become to sexual and then will become women of easy virtue :rolleyes: as they would sexually mature too quickly. Which I think is utter bollix.

I think that if 15 year old young women were told about masturbation and given a bullet type vibe they'd be happy to explore their own sexuality and not be willing to let young lads away with as much so they can feel 'something.

We'd prolly have a lot more women able to orgasm and there fore be a lot happier.

Chuchoter

It took me an extraordinarily long time to figure out about masturbation, I was genuinely freaked out about my body until like literally this year, which is kind of mad to be honest, but I had a variety of legitimate reasons. Boys talk about themselves all the time, its acceptable, for girls its just seen as disgusting and weird. I don't know a single girl who would ever talk masturbation. Female sexuality in general is a highly taboo subject.

Princess Peach

crayolastereo wrote: »

d. I don't know a single girl who would ever talk masturbation. Female sexuality in general is a highly taboo subject.

Not true! I can tell you how many vibrators and which kind me and my friends use, and we often talk about it!

I think I learned the same way I learned everything, when I was about 12 my mother gave me a book and said read this. Then it was just a matter of watching films like American Pie and such growing up. Can't remember how I discovered an extra use for my electric back massager at about 16, and then when we were 17 my friends and I started having regular Ann Summers parties.

With my friends its not taboo anyway! But I was talking to another group of girls a while ago, and I was shocked that none of them owned vibrators, and the were shocked at how many I owned!

Das Kitty

I was doing it long before I knew what it was! I found out the word for it in Just Seventeen then looked it up in the Encyclopedia along with related subjects.

It'll definitely be something I'll be open with with my own children about.

Truley

Does anyone else find it a bit 'wrong' that the boys were asked to leave when the girls' talk came up? Makes it out to be a big secret or something. Do boys not need to know about female reproduction now

Synthia123

Synthia123 wrote: »

I was quite old maybe 18 or something..

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:eek:


Wow. I was very young. And...found out myself? I don't know. I read a lot when I was younger. I just don't ever remember "finding out" that women can masturbate. It's just something I've always remembered knowing! (obviously I haven't always known it).

But 18?! Jayzus!

Truley

Truley wrote: »

Does anyone else find it a bit 'wrong' that the boys were asked to leave when the girls' talk came up? Makes it out to be a big secret or something. Do boys not need to know about female reproduction now

I don't remember having one in school and my primary was all-girls anyway, but I would imagine it would be to make the girls more comfortable asking questions without boys acting like boys

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

how in the hell do you have to find out or be told about masturbation?

did someone have to hold your hand and explain how to take in oxygen too?

Dudess

I literally just discovered it by myself when I was about nine or ten, just found the place and what it does when I was bored in my room one day - it was pre birds and bees talk, certainly pre teen magazine time (the only magazines I was reading were Smash Hits and ones connected with a toy, e.g. Care Bears/My Little Pony! :eek:)
I was, ahem, doing it anyway for the first time when my mum walked in - she said "I know that feels nice but PLEASE don't do it in public!"

I didn't make myself "go the whole way" though til I was 12/13 and I remember getting such a fright! It was such an alien, weird sensation... then the realisation that it was also absolutely awesome dawned, and I never looked back. :pac:

I used to think along the same lines as others here: "How could a person have to learn how to masturbate?" etc... but many people don't simply discover it - hardly helped by certain attitudes, e.g. that of the nurse in the OP's post.

What I find really bizarre though is those cases of women not having a clitoral orgasm til their 30s! :eek:

Synthia123

crayolastereo wrote: »

It took me an extraordinarily long time to figure out about masturbation, I was genuinely freaked out about my body until like literally this year, which is kind of mad to be honest, but I had a variety of legitimate reasons. Boys talk about themselves all the time, its acceptable, for girls its just seen as disgusting and weird. I don't know a single girl who would ever talk masturbation. Female sexuality in general is a highly taboo subject.

I completely agree with you, it is more acceptable for boys to talk about themselves etc and I don't think that all girls are as comforatble with the subject as lads are. I think it would be a bit awkward if I brought this up with my friends.
My mum's generation would definitely be more reserved, I think, in the way they deal with female sexuality. I mean the catholic church was a much stronger force about 20-30 years ago and anything to do with sexuality was stifled and especially female sexuality- I mean they did have the magdelene homes for single-mothers etc. Also I heard of several stories when I was in school where some of my friend's mums were never even told about periods, which is terrible, and maybe our parent's generation just aren't that comfortable passsing on information to do with maturing and developing etc.
It may be starting to change now, shows like "Sex and the city" make female sexuality less of a taboo I think, and thats a good thing, its probably one of the reasons the show is soo popular.

Synthia123

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

how in the hell do you have to find out or be told about masturbation?

did someone have to hold your hand and explain how to take in oxygen too?

There really is no need to mock, and I don't know what you're doing here in the first place, it being the ladies lounge, AND you couldn't possibly understand becoz you're not a LADY.
I think its clear from the responces that I'm not the only one who "found out" about masturabtion.
And i think I posed a very valid question. How are you suppoesed to know what something is as a child or adolescent if you're not told or if you don't find out, be it from the t.v or from friends, from a book or from a song? Can you explain that to me? Or are we all born with this devine inspiration that means we already know all there is to know about sexuality and puberty etc. From the other responces I think its clear that, that ISN'T the case.

Synthia123

Das Kitty wrote: »

I was doing it long before I knew what it was! I found out the word for it in Just Seventeen then looked it up in the Encyclopedia along with related subjects.

It'll definitely be something I'll be open with with my own children about.

I was the same, I had been doing it long before I knew what it was too, and as I said before I knew, as a primary school kid, I knew that boys could do it, of course in the school yard as well as other places the word "wanker" was a popular slag for guys. I suppose I hadn't copped that girls (including myself) did it too. Sorry , i know that is kind of a contradiction, but sadly, I think for a long time, I thought there was something wrong with me, which is really sad and a pity when I look back on it and I just think that if my mum had told me or if that silly nurse had been more open and realistic it would have been far better, but that's life, and needless to say, I would definitely be open about it with my kids.

ordinary_girl

Truley wrote: »

Does anyone else find it a bit 'wrong' that the boys were asked to leave when the girls' talk came up? Makes it out to be a big secret or something. Do boys not need to know about female reproduction now

Nope, when I was in school the boys were told to leave the class when the girls' talk came up aswell but after the woman was finished talking to us then the boys were sent back into the room and we had to leave. The boys were told the same thing as the girls except we weren't in the class, I've a feeling that it was to minimise sniggers and embarrassment or any smartass remarks. I certainly didn't think it was wrong.

cdaly_

Dudess wrote: »

she said "I know that feels nice but PLEASE don't do it in public!"

Excellent response from your mum...

Dudess

Synthia123 wrote: »

There really is no need to mock

In fairness I don't think he was mocking - just making an assumption.

and I don't know what you're doing here in the first place, it being the ladies lounge, AND you couldn't possibly understand becoz you're not a LADY.

No need for that - men are welcome here and it wouldn't be fair to be spoken to like that if you went into The Gentlemen's Club.

Truley

ordinary_girl wrote: »

Nope, when I was in school the boys were told to leave the class when the girls' talk came up aswell but after the woman was finished talking to us then the boys were sent back into the room and we had to leave. The boys were told the same thing as the girls except we weren't in the class, I've a feeling that it was to minimise sniggers and embarrassment or any smartass remarks. I certainly didn't think it was wrong.

But surely segregating people to hear such a talk reinforces the idea that it's something to be embarrassed or secretive about. I remember getting the talk in primary school and boys and girls were kept together. Any smartarses or messers were told to cop themselves on just like with any other classroom subject.

Princess Peach

Dudess wrote: »

I didn't make myself "go the whole way" though til I was 12/13 and I remember getting such a fright! It was such an alien, weird sensation... then the realisation that it was also absolutely awesome dawned, and I never looked back. :pac:

Now I remember! I saw some cartoon documentary on channel 4 one morning when I was off school about the different ways to "feel good" and one involved the shower head in the bath. And after a few unsuccessful tries, it happened! Such a shock to me! Then I had the idea to try the vibrating massager.

This silly educational show needs to be seen!

ordinary_girl

Truley wrote: »

But surely segregating people to hear such a talk reinforces the idea that it's something to be embarrassed or secretive about. I remember getting the talk in primary school and boys and girls were kept together. Any smartarses or messers were told to cop themselves on just like with any other classroom subject.

Well, no. We were about 11 or 12 at the time and all of us were incredibly immature, it's not something I'd be embarrassed or secretive about now but at 12 myself and classmates still giggled after looking up 'intercourse' in our school dictionaries and 'sex' was a bad word.

The fact that the boys and girls were seperated had no negative effect on me, and I assume it was the same for my classmates, so I don't see the issue. Infact, I was more comfortable with learning about this stuff without the boys being in the class.

Herbal Deity

Synthia123 wrote: »

it is more acceptable for boys to talk about themselves etc

Just as an aside, it really isn't socially acceptable for guys to talk about masturbation among themselves at all. You might get more explicit jokes or casual references to ****, but actual discussions about masturbation just don't happen in my experience.

It's more easily discoverable for guys, and it's almost unanimously assumed that every guy does it, but that's about as far as it goes really. I would say that while there might exist more women who are anorgasmic or don't masturbate at all, I'd say that on the other end of the scale there exist far more women who discuss it openly with their friends and who experiment in a lot more ways.

Chuchoter

Herbal Deity wrote: »

Just as an aside, it really isn't socially acceptable for guys to talk about masturbation among themselves at all. You might get more explicit jokes or casual references to ****, but actual discussions about masturbation just don't happen in my experience.

It's more easily discoverable for guys, and it's almost unanimously assumed that every guy does it, but that's about as far as it goes really. I would say that while there might exist more women who are anorgasmic or don't masturbate at all, I'd say that on the other end of the scale there exist far more women who discuss it openly with their friends and who experiment in a lot more ways.

:S

I'm permanently hearing about **** from my guy friends. Its rather unpleasant. The one time in my life its ever come up with girls it was met with omg ew.

Herbal Deity

crayolastereo wrote: »

I'm permanently hearing about **** from my guy friends. Its rather unpleasant

In a jokey context, sure.

Proper, mature discussions about techniques one has experimented with etc.? Never. (IME of course)

epgc3fyqirnbsx

crayolastereo wrote: »

:S

I'm permanently hearing about **** from my guy friends. Its rather unpleasant. The one time in my life its ever come up with girls it was met with omg ew.

But that's just it, it's done in crude joking form
There is no male equivalent of an Ann Summers party... All the girls I know have been at or even hosted these parties so given their prevelance I'n surprised at some of the comments here

And as for being taught about masturbation, I really dont see the need for any such talk. Once you are educated about sex you are naturally going to think about it, then going on to imagining it and with the lack of a partner you simply improvise

Pembily

Nope I got a sex education talk from my mum but nothing on masturbation, I just figured it out myself in bed when I was too young!

Princess Peach wrote: »

With my friends its not taboo anyway! But I was talking to another group of girls a while ago, and I was shocked that none of them owned vibrators, and the were shocked at how many I owned!

We discuss vibrators but not much else, no technique or anything "detailed", to me its a bit TMI!! I think it is a bit of a taboo, it's just not something we talk about, my sisters thought I was really weird cause I had a vibrator at the age of 21 and what I needed it for was gross!!:rolleyes:

Herbal Deity wrote: »

Just as an aside, it really isn't socially acceptable for guys to talk about masturbation among themselves at all. You might get more explicit jokes or casual references to ****, but actual discussions about masturbation just don't happen in my experience.

It's more easily discoverable for guys, and it's almost unanimously assumed that every guy does it, but that's about as far as it goes really. I would say that while there might exist more women who are anorgasmic or don't masturbate at all, I'd say that on the other end of the scale there exist far more women who discuss it openly with their friends and who experiment in a lot more ways.

Guys joke about it, and also wanker is a slang word but hhere is no equivalent for women so not as "talked about", but there would be (bit less now) more awarness and noise about men masturbating!!! I think its nuts that there are women out there that havn't had orgasms at 30 :eek: stupid taboos!!!

Dudess

The "Ew... that's gross!" response to mention of masturbation is a bit silly after one's teens, IMO - although I'm not saying a person should pull a chair up and listen intently to every nuance of detail in relation to a person's most recent masturbatory experience either, but in general, it's not something to feign disgust at.

Posy

I never thought about discussing it with any daughters I might have, I figured that they'd just 'discover' it themselves.
However, recalling reading 'Deenie', that Judy Blume book, I remember the girl in it gets scoliosis, a curvature of the spine and is worried that her 'deformity' may have been caused by her touching herself- a sort of punishment, so to speak. She thinks she's the only girl who does something like this, because it's never been talked about, and that it is wrong, dirty, a taboo thing to do.
I certainly wouldn't want any child I might have to think she's alone in having such feelings so I might casually drop it into the conversation during the birds/bees/periods talk.

Synthia123

Dudess wrote: »

In fairness I don't think he was mocking - just making an assumption.

No need for that - men are welcome here and it wouldn't be fair to be spoken to like that if you went into The Gentlemen's Club.[/QUO


ok, sometimes it is difficult to gauge someone's responce when its in writing as oppposed to face-to -face, maybe he just meant it in jest, I just thought that his comment; "does someone have to hold your hand to breath oxygen too" was a bit smart and I think sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. I didn't think that his incredulous tone was really helping the debate, he didn't bring anything to the table.

I didn't mean to exclude all boys from the ladies lounge in my comment, (you are all welcome!) It was just that given the subject matter I thought that it would make more sense for ladies to reply rather than guys. And from the original post, other areas to do with female sexuality, societiy's attitudes to female sexuality and our own personal experiences have come up, and the point I was trying to make was, in not being a girl, maybe it would be difficult to relate to the issues mentioned already and maybe alot of it could be quite new and unknown to males.

Also, I think I was probably abit more comfortable with the idea of discussing this topic in an environment with females first.

However on 2nd thoughts maybe it would be good to hear from the boys so that we get a more accurate picture of the whole issue and to see if the assumptions made about male sexuality are correct.
All comments are welcome. :-)

Maple

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candy-gal1

If i remember correctly we learnt everything except that. I learnt about anything else from MIZZ magazine when i was 13 lol

Wibbs

Herbal Deity wrote: »

Just as an aside, it really isn't socially acceptable for guys to talk about masturbation among themselves at all. You might get more explicit jokes or casual references to ****, but actual discussions about masturbation just don't happen in my experience.

I'd agree. Well one indicator is the discussion of vibrators etc. among women. If a bunch of men suggested they went and bought some electric hand/leccy latex labia eyebrows would be raised .

I do think men and women are different in this as far as self discovery goes. Definitely because of societal pressures, but maybe something as simple as a man's equipment is out in the open so to speak. One can't help but grab it Plus women's physical sensitivity seems to vary a lot. Now that's me saying that as a man who goes out with women, maybe women notice a variability in the men they're with? I'd also reckon there are broad differences between male and female arousal anyway. Hence something like viagra, which has pretty much the same effect in men and women, but doesnt seem to have the same arousal effect? With a guy it seems to be more a case of "oh I'm physically responding, therefore Im aroused", with women it's more "oh Im aroused, therefore I'm physically responding". That would be my take anyway.

Herbal Deity

Viagra simply increases bloodflow to the penis, making erections easier, it doesn't provoke arousal.

There are huge misconceptions that it's some kind of sexual wonder drug for males.

But yeah, I reckon most guys discover masturbation because our genitals are much more obvious and accessible. When growing up, you start to notice your penis changing state randomly, you touch your penis every time you go to the bathroom etc.

Wibbs wrote: »

I'd agree. Well one indicator is the discussion of vibrators etc. among women. If a bunch of men suggested they went and bought some electric hand/leccy latex labia eyebrows would be raised .

Not to mention if it was an anal/prostate stimulation toy they bought...

(There's probably an interesting discussion in this tangent, I may start a thread in TGC when I get a chance)

Das Kitty

Much as I like vibrators I do wonder if they're a safer subject for conversation because they provide a physical barrier between the woman's hand and her genitals? Do women feel more comfortable talking about using a device than talking about touching themselves? Are there women who have used a vibe but have never touched themselves sexually?

I used my hand growing up and if I'm honest I still prefer it to a vibe. While I come from quite a prudish home I found that it gave me a lot of body confidence and self confidence. Whilst my friends were experimenting with boys from around 12 (mostly ones they didn't even fancy) I wasn't bothered. I only ever did anything sexual with someone I fancied and trusted. Most of my friends have a lot of sexual regrets.

Wibbs

Herbal Deity wrote: »

Viagra simply increases bloodflow to the penis, making erections easier, it doesn't provoke arousal.

Its more complex than that. Studies have shown men who take it have more sexy time. Which seems obvious and again obviously if there was an issue before that hampered their libido because of failure they're going to be doing it more. But there does seem to be a link between ease of arousal and arousal itself. Other studies have also observed that physical arousal in men tends to lead to sexual arousal. That if you induce physical arousal the body and brain follows. The opposite effect is seen in the ladies.

Women's arousal itself is very complex and much more wide ranging than mens anyway. Some fascinating research on the subject. One I read measured arousal in men and women, straight and gay(though why they left out bi people I don't know). Mad stuff altogether. Men were more focused in their triggers for a start. The first conclusion would seem obvious, IE that straight men responded physically to naughty movies:) of a straight nature, gay men to gay stuff. Both reported this and subconsciously agreed. Then the women. While straight women and gay women reported along their labels, both were aroused subconsciously by pretty much all the naughty movies. Obviously individuals differed, but as an average that's what they found. It's much more complex in women basically and they vary more as individuals on average than men. So it doesnt surprise me at all that each woman has a slightly different story of their self discovery and that men are much more alike in this.

baby and crumble

I remember reading Deenie, I was so innocent I didn't cop on what she meant, I thought she was rubbing her hip bone! :rolleyes:

I was a late bloomer (as you might have figured out from that nugget of information) but then I didn't loose my virginity til I was 21. So my GF was the very first person EVER to bring me well... there.

Das Kitty wrote:

Much as I like vibrators I do wonder if they're a safer subject for conversation because they provide a physical barrier between the woman's hand and her genitals? Do women feel more comfortable talking about using a device than talking about touching themselves? Are there women who have used a vibe but have never touched themselves sexually?

I kinda separate the 2 types of masturbating tbh, I tend to use the vibrator I have to just 'get off' for want of a better word but if I'm masturbating because I'm missing my GF or whatever, then I'll go au naturel. It just feels a bit nicer and more human. Not a shock, really!

Wibbs wrote:

Women's arousal itself is very complex and much more wide ranging than mens anyway. Some fascinating research on the subject. One I read measured arousal in men and women, straight and gay(though why they left out bi people I don't know). Mad stuff altogether. Men were more focused in their triggers for a start. The first conclusion would seem obvious, IE that straight men responded physically to naughty movies of a straight nature, gay men to gay stuff. Both reported this and subconsciously agreed. Then the women. While straight women and gay women reported along their labels, both were aroused subconsciously by pretty much all the naughty movies. Obviously individuals differed, but as an average that's what they found. It's much more complex in women basically and they vary more as individuals on average than men. So it doesnt surprise me at all that each woman has a slightly different story of their self discovery and that men are much more alike in this.

I can't remember where, but I read an article really recently that discovered that although everone thinks of men being more visually stimulated than women, that's not the case. Women who were shown erotic pictures reacted in their brains to the stimulus WAY faster than men- as in their bodies registered arousal before their conscious would have time to register what it was they were seeing, as opposed to men who reacted in the expected time, after their brain had time to register it. I though that was pretty interesting...

It's like anything, it's always been thought or said, I don't know which, that girls just 'go along' with sex as opposed to really enjoying it. Almost like it's done 'for the sake' of the male partner. It's such rubbish. A lot of women like porn, a lot of women read erotica, a lot of women write erotica, and a lot of women are into fetishes etc, same as guys. It's just more ok for men to like sex. What was that quote from Glee? "You want to know the dirty little secret no-one talks about? Girls want sex just as much as guys do..." True. :cool:

Dudess

Das Kitty wrote: »

Much as I like vibrators I do wonder if they're a safer subject for conversation because they provide a physical barrier between the woman's hand and her genitals? Do women feel more comfortable talking about using a device than talking about touching themselves? Are there women who have used a vibe but have never touched themselves sexually?

I used my hand growing up and if I'm honest I still prefer it to a vibe... I found that it gave me a lot of body confidence and self confidence. Whilst my friends were experimenting with boys from around 12 (mostly ones they didn't even fancy) I wasn't bothered. I only ever did anything sexual with someone I fancied and trusted.

Exact same as me. I was similar to you - not into the "experimenting" apparent rite of passage (always struck me as quite cold and choreographed with the various "stages" and "levels" by certain ages) and then, not into casual sex on a regular basis when older (not for prudish reasons, just my personal preference) but was extremely in tune with my body, and knew, with little to no sexual experience with guys, exactly what I wanted, what I enjoyed, what turned me on, etc.
I've heard the phrase a number of times "Why would I touch myself when a guy can do it for me?" used not in jest which is just... wtf?

zoegh wrote: »

I can't remember where, but I read an article really recently that discovered that although everone thinks of men being more visually stimulated than women, that's not the case. Women who were shown erotic pictures reacted in their brains to the stimulus WAY faster than men- as in their bodies registered arousal before their conscious would have time to register what it was they were seeing, as opposed to men who reacted in the expected time, after their brain had time to register it. I though that was pretty interesting...

Would it maybe depend on the type of image though? E.g. a male stripper image would turn me on about as much as the coffee table would, whereas a female stripper would be far more likely to turn a hetero man on.

baby and crumble

Dudess wrote:

Would it maybe depend on the type of image though? E.g. a male stripper image would turn me on about as much as the coffee table would, whereas a female stripper would be far more likely to turn a hetero man on.

That was part of the study, it was pictures of people having sex, far as I remember, and the men and women were shown pretty much the same images.

Herbal Deity

I never trust neuroscience/psychology studies, I find a lot of the explanations for what they find is pure conjecture, which is then presented as a newly discovered fact by media articles.

baby and crumble

What do you trust then?

Faith

Herbal Deity wrote: »

I never trust neuroscience/psychology studies, I find a lot of the explanations for what they find is pure conjecture, which is then presented as a newly discovered fact by media articles.

Lol! I've a degree in neuroscience from a top university, and I'm a few months off having a degree in psychology too. I can guarantee you that findings presented in peer-reviewed journals are not "pure conjecture". They have been subject to rigourous controls and results will have been very carefully analysed by at least 2 separate, unbiased external reviewers before publication.

It's also worth noting that concepts such as gravity were "pure conjecture" for a long time, and still turned out to be correct.

:rolleyes:

Herbal Deity

I've no problem with neuroscience or psychology, I just think huge pinches of salt are required when looking at them. Perhaps its more the articles based on them that take them out of context that I have a problem with.

Way off the point anyway.

I actually didn't think that anyone in this day and age would have thought that women don't enjoy sex, or do so less than men. I don't really see why a man would not want his partner to enjoy sex with him either. Certainly, most of the point of sex for me is the fact that myself and my partner are both experiencing intense sensations...

Dudess

Herbal Deity wrote: »

I actually didn't think that anyone in this day and age would have thought that women don't enjoy sex, or do so less than men.

Seeing as the clitoral orgasm can be more intense than the male one, and women have erogenous zones all over the shop and can get turned on by stimulation of majorly non sexual bits (e.g. the wrists), that would be just the ultimate in silliness.