Honour Killings In America - Wave Of The Future

old_aussie

Is this(muslim Hounor Killings) to become a more common trend, not just in the muslim dominated countries, but now in the West?

If you’ve been following current events very closely for the past several years, you might be aware that Muslim “honor killings” are not just something that occurs in Middle Eastern countries. It happens in the United States. It doesn’t happen a lot, and the “mainstream” media is usually pretty hushed about it, but it is happening in frightening numbers, and you can find out about it if you look hard enough.
Even the case of Rifqa Bary, the girl who ran away from home because she feared for her life after converting to Christianity, was more visible on the current events scene, but you’d have to really look for information about it.

The attention level is beginning to change, however, and hopefully that will be a good thing for America. That is because radical Muslims, after a Western society has become “tolerant” of their more extreme beliefs, usually demands the recognition of Muslim practices such as Sharia Law. We don’t need Sharai law or honor killings in America.

You’ll see in the first video below a brief expose about the honor killing of two sisters in Texas, Sarah Yaser Said, 17, and Amina Yaser Said, 18, in 2008

http://www.dakotavoice.com/2010/08/muslim-honor-killings-in-america-wave-of-the-future/

Orange69

You wont see Sharia law in the US, or the acceptance of so called honor killings. The law and its enforcement are taken very seriously over here.

At some point I can see this happening in the UK or France, but not the US. The libtards haven't quite gotten a proper foot hold.

IvySlayer

Orange69 wrote: »

You wont see Sharia law in the US, or the acceptance of so called honor killings. The law and its enforcement are taken very seriously over here.

At some point I can see this happening in the UK or France, but not the US. The libtards haven't quite gotten a proper foot hold.

France? The same people that kicked out Roma gypsies?

Sharia law will never happen in the USA, and Europe.

high horse

WTF is an "honour killing"???

Orange69

IvySlayer wrote: »

France? The same people that kicked out Roma gypsies?

Sharia law will never happen in the USA, and Europe.

Kicking out the gypsies is political stunt, to keep the masses placated imo.

IvySlayer

Orange69 wrote: »

Kicking out the gypsies is political stunt, to keep the masses placated imo.

France banned the Muslim headscarf and religious symbols in school.

old_aussie

IvySlayer wrote: »

France? The same people that kicked out Roma gypsies?

Sharia law will never happen in the USA, and Europe.

It would be good to see France kick out muslims who make trouble.

Sticky_Fingers

old_aussie wrote: »

It would be good to see France kick out muslims who make trouble.

I wonder if you would be so hot on the idea if the aborigines felt the same way and decided that whitey deserved the same treatment


*awaits irrational response

amacachi

Aren't there just as many "honour killings" among other religions/cultures in and around the Indian subcontinent? I shall have to Google but it seems like the usual thing of focusing on the Muslims because there's no beef (literally :pac:) with the others who are doing it.

Royal Irish

Hindu religious figures in India called Khap's order honor killings for the same reasons they occur in Islamic countries. The Khap's are sometimes refered to as the Indian taliban.

Auldloon

Has been happening in the UK for years.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/honourcrimes/crimesofhonour_1.shtml

up for anything

I'm tired of the same people spouting the same rhetoric. I wonder what the agenda is besides to expose the horrifying threat of Islam.

If I gave credence to conspiracy theories I would make one up of my own. I would wonder whether a certain type of person was being wound up and used to disseminate anti-Muslim feeling through the different media. Hearing this type of argument often enough tends to give it a life of it's own. Then all that is needed to turn the ordinary person into a active anti-Muslimite is an incident like 9/11. Amazing how the UK have managed to stop such a thing happening in the UK very recently. I wonder how long it will take before they 'allow' one to happen in order to get the vast majority people firmly behind a Muslim cleansing pogram. :mad:

Will I Godwinise the thread!

dlofnep

old_aussie wrote: »

We don’t need Sharai law or honor killings in America.

You live in Australia.

Sharia Law will not be implemented in America. We don't need killings of any kind in the world - But it's funny how you managed to single out extremist Muslim ones. No agenda there, aye?

FreudianSlippers

IvySlayer wrote: »

France banned the Muslim headscarf and religious symbols in school.

As they should, religion has no place in schools.

omahaid

high horse wrote: »

WTF is an "honour killing"???

http://tinyurl.com/2uu4fpn

curlzy

high horse wrote: »

WTF is an "honour killing"???

It's when a scumbag murders their daughter (or any female relative)*** and then goes up in the eyes of the muslim community for being a super cool guy. :rolleyes: Such a silly name for it really, a more accurate name would be "murder".

*** In fairness though she usually deserves it, for such things as having committed the almighty sin of having made eye contact with a non related male!!! The hussy.

IvySlayer

OisinT wrote: »

As they should, religion has no place in schools.

Damn straight. *highfive*

amacachi

curlzy wrote: »

It's when a scumbag murders their daughter (or any female relative)*** and then goes up in the eyes of the muslim community for being a super cool guy. :rolleyes: Such a silly name for it really, a more accurate name would be "murder".

Yup, only Muslims, I can see you've extensively researched the topic.

curlzy

amacachi wrote: »

Yup, only Muslims, I can see you've extensively researched the topic.

Where did I say only muslims? Is AH gone so PC that I have to name every single denomination in order to make a comment?

Canis Lupus

curlzy wrote: »

Where did I say only muslims?

Probably the part where you say muslim community.

EDIT: Oh and thread is stupid. 'Honour killings' do unfortunately happen in the West amoungst certain ethnic communities but are punshed accordingly when discovered, they'll never be an 'accepted' thing and to think otherwise is moronic.

Further edit: In fact I think they're usually punished in alot of muslim countries if discovered there as well.

irishconvert

I'm a Muslim. So called "Honour Killings" are totally against the teachings of Islam. They are just plain murder.

They are a cultural practise and not restricted to Muslims. They also occur in Sikh, Hindu and Christian (surprise surprise!) communities.

And please note that the OP, old_aussie, has a history of making anti-Muslim posts on this forum. He has admitted in the past that he just doesn't like Muslims so anything he posts should be taken with a pinch of salt.

FreudianSlippers

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Probably the part where you say muslim community.

EDIT: Oh and thread is stupid. 'Honour killings' do unfortunately happen in the West amoungst certain ethnic communities but are punshed accordingly when discovered, they'll never be an 'accepted' thing and to think otherwise is moronic.

zing!

curlzy

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Probably the part where you say muslim community.

EDIT: Oh and thread is stupid. 'Honour killings' do unfortunately happen in the West amoungst certain ethnic communities but are punshed accordingly when discovered, they'll never be an 'accepted' thing and to think otherwise is moronic.

Further edit: In fact I think they're usually punished in alot of muslim countries if discovered there as well.

Ok well if we're going to get thick about it how about this interpretation:

It were MEN kill women ......, does that cover all the denominations accurately?:D

biko

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As irishconvert said, this isn't just a Muslim practice.

Canis Lupus

curlzy wrote: »

Ok well if we're going to get thick about it how about this interpretation:

It were MEN kill women ......, does that cover all the denominations accurately?:D

Sexist pig.

wes

old_aussie wrote: »

Even the case of Rifqa Bary, the girl who ran away from home because she feared for her life after converting to Christianity, was more visible on the current events scene, but you’d have to really look for information about it.

Of course as per usual you leave out facts, due to your pretty well known hatred of Muslims:

Law enforcement investigations

Rifqa Bary was taken into custody by Florida child welfare authorities while an investigation was conducted. The court appointed attorneys for her parents: private practitioner Craig McCarthy for the mother, and a lawyer from the state Florida Regional Council for the father.[15] The Florida Department of Law Enforcement report states that they found no credible evidence of physical or verbal abuse.[2] In the report, Bary's father states that he did pick up his daughter's laptop to throw it, but did not throw it due to the cost of the laptop.[2] The FDLE report also listed several statements by Rifqa Bary which were not supported by evidence.[2] Rifqa Bary stated to them that her father did not know about the true nature of her cheerleading, but the FDLE report states that pictures of her in uniform were prominently displayed in the family's home. Furthermore, Mr. Bary gave permission when Mrs. Bary would not.[2] Rifqa Bary stated that a teacher offered her refuge due to the abuse she suffered. The FDLE report states that the teacher was unaware of any abuse and was concerned about parties with alcohol consumption - purchased with a fake ID - which were thrown by Bary's brother, Rilvan, when their parents were away.[2] The FDLE report also stated that they did not investigate anyone in the larger Ohio Muslim community and that Florida authorities relied in part on the investigation done by authorities in Ohio.[2]. The FDLE report has been criticized by John Guandolo, a former FBI agent writing for the Center for Security Policy who said that under Islamic law apostasy is a capital offense.[2][16] The FDLE responded that it had conducted a "thorough investigation."[2]

On September 14, 2009, a Florida court ruled that it found no credible evidence that Bary's life or well-being had been threatened by her family.[2][5][6] On October 13, 2009, Orange County (Florida) Judge Daniel P. Dawson ruled that he would return Bary to Ohio pending a settlement of her immigration status.[14] Emergency custody continues in Ohio.[10] Two items that Bary's parents did not release to the police were her diary and her journal entries.[citation needed]

I know it Wikipedia, but they do link the various News articles. So her family were cleared in court of the various claims made about them. Perhaps you need to read some proper sources, that have facts about cases, as opposed to a bunch of made up bull****.

up for anything

curlzy wrote: »

It's when a scumbag murders their daughter (or any female relative)*** and then goes up in the eyes of the muslim community for being a super cool guy. :rolleyes: Such a silly name for it really, a more accurate name would be "murder".

*** In fairness though she usually deserves it, for such things as having committed the almighty sin of having made eye contact with a non related male!!! The hussy.

Would you ever think before you post something so infantile and stupid! :rolleyes:

Also, it would be excellent if you didn't generalise and trivialise issues like this. It doesn't make you a super, cool gal.

curlzy

up for anything wrote: »

Would you ever think before you post something so infantile and stupid! :rolleyes:

Also, it would be excellent if you didn't generalise and trivialise issues like this. It doesn't make you a super, cool gal.

OH sweet jesus, this is ****ing AH, do we really need to write a PC essay to qualify everything just to make a point???? And again; this is AH, everything is trivialised, that's the point!!!!!

Also, how come you're all picking up on the point I mention islam but no one is picking up on the fact I call the victims of honour killings husseys??? Surely if you're going to scream "won't anyone think of the children" at me this is much more suitable. This PC bullsh*t really is tiring.

Ok, it's not just muslims that are murdering scumbags, it's hindi and sikh too, that better??? Christ sakes.

Duggy747

*checks watch*

Ah, it's Muslim-bashing o'clock again!

Honour killings isn't solely a Muslim thing, lots of scumbags from other ethnic and religious backgrounds do this. It ain't exactly welcomed with open arms by most communities.

Some African communities are brutal for this when they perform "Necklacing"; putting a tyre over a victims head, filled with petrol and then setting it on fire.







Wait a minute...............I don't have a watch.............

:pac:

curlzy

Duggy747 wrote: »

Some African communities are brutal for this when they perform "Necklacing"; putting a tyre over a victims head, filled with petrol and then setting it on fire.

This is true, I've a south african friend and she said that happened a few times near where she used to live. Good reason to move I think.

thebigbiffo

was 9/11 one big massive 'honour killing'?

up for anything

curlzy wrote: »

OH sweet jesus, this is ****ing AH, do we really need to write a PC essay to qualify everything just to make a point???? And again; this is AH, everything is trivialised, that's the point!!!!!

If you say so.

How come you're all picking up on the point I mention islam but no one is picking up on the fact I call the victims of honour killings husseys???

I assumed it was facetious. My bad.

jackiebaron

Orange69 wrote: »

You wont see Sharia law in the US, or the acceptance of so called honor killings. The law and its enforcement are taken very seriously over here.

At some point I can see this happening in the UK or France, but not the US. The libtards haven't quite gotten a proper foot hold.

What's a libtard?

jackiebaron

Orange69 wrote: »

Kicking out the gypsies is political stunt, to keep the masses placated imo.

"Keep the masses placated" hahahaha!
The French are the most liberated people on Earth and the hardest to fück with. Just mention that you are going to dick around with their pensions/vacations/salaries/work conditions and they trash the country and hold their bosses hostage until you back down and issue a whimpering apology.

Placated! Don't make me laugh.

Morlar

jackiebaron wrote: »

What's a libtard?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=libtard&defid=1454864

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Sgt Hartman

It's always open season on Catholicism here on AH but as soon as anyone says anything negative about Islam the hands are thrown up in horror.

jackiebaron

OisinT wrote: »

As they should, religion has no place in schools.

Only problem is....the headscarf is not a religious symbol. It is a cultural one... similar to dirndls for Bavarian women, kimonos for Japanese women, saris for Indian women and gypsy-hoop earrings, tracksuits and scrape-back hairstyles for Dublin women.

jackiebaron

Morlar wrote: »

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=libtard&defid=1454864

(Lib-Tard) 1) Combination of the words Liberal and retard (see also:

Ahh, one of those really original and clever put-downs like Democraps or Obummer.
Gotcha.

Turtyturd

Sgt Hartman wrote: »

It's always open season on Catholicism here on AH but as soon as anyone says anything negative about Islam the hands are thrown up in horror.

Isn't the OP's point the same as asking if abuse by priests will be permitted in the future?

I'm all for making fun of any religion but not in such a blatantly stupid way.

Nodin

Sgt Hartman wrote: »

It's always open season on Catholicism here on AH .......

The catholic church gets a bit of a kicking. I've yet to see a thread where we get a few head the balls suggesting all catholics are child molesters though.

the_syco

irishconvert wrote: »

I'm a Muslim. So called "Honour Killings" are totally against the teachings of Islam.

I find that muslims claim a lot of stuff in the name Allah, of being muslim, etc, etc. They usually do so to try to retain their "good family name" or some other bullsh|t. Back in the day, Irish people sent their daughters off to be a nun if they got preggers, but as there was so real news back then, I'd say a few of them involuntarily committed suicide as well. Throughput the ages, people have done things in the name of religion, when they don't want to do the time for the sh|t that they've done.

For the most case, people do get arrested for honour killings in Afghanistan, etc, but some are released due to lack of evidence that they had actually carried out the killing.

Morlar

jackiebaron wrote: »

Ahh, one of those really original and clever put-downs like Democraps or Obummer.
Gotcha.

Maybe not entirely the same :

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irishconvert

Sgt Hartman wrote: »

It's always open season on Catholicism here on AH but as soon as anyone says anything negative about Islam the hands are thrown up in horror.

I will stand up for my religion when it is being falsly accused of supporting murder by a well know anti-Muslim poster. If Christians don't want to stand up for their religion when it is being attacked that is their business.

curlzy

the_syco wrote: »

Back in the day, Irish people sent their daughters off to be a nun if they got preggers

Ha ha pregnant nuns!!!

Nodin

curlzy wrote: »

Ha ha pregnant nuns!!!

Like tubby penguins....

inforfun

irishconvert wrote: »

I will stand up for my religion when it is being falsly accused of supporting murder by a well know anti-Muslim poster critisized in any way by anyone. If Christians don't want to stand up for their religion when it is being attacked that is their business.

Here, fixed that for you.

irishconvert

inforfun wrote: »

Here, fixed that for you.

Meh

strobe

irishconvert wrote: »

Meh

Wait a second.....meh?......MEH?....M.E.H.....Muslims Eat Humans :eek::eek:

He finally admitted it. I knew you'd slip up sooner or later IC. Everyone grab a broom.

wes

inforfun wrote: »

Here, fixed that for you.

So, its ok to ignore the Hindu, Christian, Sikh etc victims of honour killings for the sole purpose to make Muslims look bad? Claiming that Muslims are the only ones who do this, btw isn't criticism, it is a lie, and people have every right to point that out, whether you like it or not.

Also, I already pointed out the issue with the Rifqa Bary case mentioned, where no evidence was found to support the claims against her family, but let not allow facts to get in the way of things, right?

Finally, the article starts talking about Sharia law, as if there is actually a serious threat of it being implement in the US, and no proof is of course provided to back up this claim as per usual.

Honour killings are horrible crimes, but to purposefully ignore all the other victims of this kind of violence to stir up hatred against one community is pretty low imho.

curlzy

wes wrote: »

Honour killings are horrible crimes, but to purposefully ignore all the other victims of this kind of violence to stir up hatred against one community is pretty low imho.

Just want to point out that posting a thread in boards.ie can hardly be counted as an effort to stir up anti-muslim sentiment, particularly in AH. Just wondering if you actually believe that, like for real real and not for play play?:D

inforfun

wes wrote: »

So, its ok to ignore the Hindu, Christian, Sikh etc victims of honour killings for the sole purpose to make Muslims look bad? Claiming that Muslims are the only ones who do this, btw isn't criticism, it is a lie, and people have every right to point that out, whether you like it or not.

Also, I already pointed out the issue with the Rifqa Bary case mentioned, where no evidence was found to support the claims against her family, but let not allow facts to get in the way of things, right?

Finally, the article starts talking about Sharia law, as if there is actually a serious threat of it being implement in the US, and no proof is of course provided to back up this claim as per usual.

Honour killings are horrible crimes, but to purposefully ignore all the other victims of this kind of violence to stir up hatred against one community is pretty low imho.

First of all, i dont know where you get the idea i think it is only muslims practising honour killings.

Then, i think all killings are bad enough but if religion, any religion, starts to play a part in it it brings it to the next level imo. Whether that is a killing in name of <fill in your religion of choice> or because the user guide of said religion says it is the proper punishment for a certain event.