SGU 2x01 "Intervention" *Spoilers*

Richard Dower

Not not now!

ixoy

Folks - and I'm looking at you in particular Richard - remember the spoiler rules. You can only talk about 2x01, or previous episodes, without spoiler tags in this thread.
Do NOT talk about any later episodes, even the teasers, without clearly marked spoiler tags.
Thanks!

RolandIRL

C is for Carter

so it's presumed that if you're reading this thread, you've seen this episode and all previous episodes prior to this, and can discuss them here without spoiler tags. that right ixoy?
would that also apply to SG1 and SGA discussion in this thread cos i've only just started watching them cos of SGU.

ixoy

whiteman19 wrote: »

so it's presumed that if you're reading this thread, you've seen this episode and all previous episodes prior to this, and can discuss them here without spoiler tags. that right ixoy?

Yeah, that's right! The thread title says "Spoilers" which is a green light for discussion of everything up to this. Just not beyond that. I always try and remain spoiler free, and love just seeing what happens week by week with no idea of the future! Reckon others do too.

would that also apply to SG1 and SGA discussion in this thread cos i've only just started watching them cos of SGU.

It's a tough one. I kind of think it shouldn't - that's because episodes can reference previous story lines spanning across the shows. They're too interlinked. For example, the Lucien Alliance are an important part here and it's only fair that people can discuss their origins back from the parent series. Maybe we can try and not tie it into specific episodes? I'm open to having my mind changed on this if there's sufficient pull on it.

RolandIRL

C is for Carter

ixoy wrote: »

Yeah, that's right! The thread title says "Spoilers" which is a green light for discussion of everything up to this. Just not beyond that. I always try and remain spoiler free, and love just seeing what happens week by week with no idea of the future! Reckon others do too.

cheers for clearing that up i don't like knowing what's going to happen either. prefer the surprise of it all

ixoy wrote: »

It's a tough one. I kind of think it shouldn't - that's because episodes can reference previous story lines spanning across the shows. They're too interlinked. For example, the Lucien Alliance are an important part here and it's only fair that people can discuss their origins back from the parent series. Maybe we can try and not tie it into specific episodes? I'm open to having my mind changed on this if there's sufficient pull on it.

i suppose most people on the stargate forum have been watching it from the start. i have been reading the stargate wikia, so i'm sure i can get the background info if needs be so i won't be lost in the discussion

Overheal

C is for Carter

No Poll?

Peace

C is for Carter

Overheal wrote: »

No Poll?

Uh oh... thread fail imminent .....

helimachoptor

D is for Daniel

Cant wait for this, will probably watch the last couple of episodes tonight/tomorrow

ixoy

Overheal wrote: »

No Poll?

Poll added to stop imminent thread collapse.

Peace

C is for Carter

ixoy wrote: »

Poll added to stop imminent thread collapse.

You may even say a stable wormhole connection has been established...

Antar Bolaeisk

E is for Eli

Bah! This thread had me thinking Universe would be available to watch today when in reality it won't be airing until the 29th our time.

Boo Hiss etc.

(I'm holding you personally responsible for my bitter disapointment Richard Dower)

Conor108

Sneak peak released by SyFy (Obviously contains minor spoiler)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NgQBngHWTw

Overheal

C is for Carter

ixoy wrote: »

Poll added to stop imminent thread collapse.

Wha, Me?

RolandIRL

C is for Carter

just watched it there. very good episode. a tad predictable with the fact that everyone gets out alive. though it was dark with tj's baby dying though they kinda put a spin on it that she could still be alive on the Faith planet.
wonder will they integrate Kavos and the others into the crew or drop them off at a habitable planet?

all in all, i was happy with the conclusion. bit predictable but very good anyway

don ramo

C is for Carter

good opener, noting spectacular, kinda took me a minute or two to remember what exactly what happened (should really have watch the last 2 eps of season 1 again),

i was thinking more would possibly die, yerman was a lunatic i knew he was gonna die, cause there was no way to get out of that situation with him alive,

so now we have 4 factions on the ship we have young and rush on the earth side, and the split in the lucian alliance with the ones that stayed loyal to yerman and were kicked off the ship with him, and the ones that stayed on the ship,

it should be interesting to see who stays and who goes, id say there will deffinately be some leaving, hope that good looking one running the system for the LA stays, and probably all the ones that got kicked off the ship,

the rest will either be kicked off or will e killed in some explosion, or even be aliens,

also s trange twost on TJs baby, would be interesting to see if anything further happens later on,

i gave it a B anyway, not great, but set up a lot of storylines,

D-Generate

D is for Daniel

Nothing great about the episode to be honest. Just a standard resolution of a foothold situation that SG writers do by the numbers these days.

Was anyone else strangely happy that TJ's baby died? Adding a baby to the cast or any young character invariably ruins shows.

Overheal

C is for Carter

D-Generate wrote: »

Was anyone else strangely happy that TJ's baby died? Adding a baby to the cast or any young character invariably ruins shows.

They never planned on it, I think she found out she was pregnant shortly before filming on the first season began.

Episode felt par for the course. Oh hey, everyone's alive. And oh yeah I'm not bleeding out anymore and all the color has returned to my face after a bullet tore clean through my leg. Here I am walking and talking, "Oh that? Oh no it's fine. Nothing you have to worry about." Who is she trying to impress?

The next episode looks far, far more interesting... URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYsK2zwGHEw"]spoilers[/URL

Antar Bolaeisk

E is for Eli

Bit of a boring episode I thought and they had a song again (even if it was from the excellent Mumford and Sons)

Sarn

B is Ba'al

I actually really enjoyed it. That's probably due to withdrawal symptoms though.

I agree that it's good that they got rid of the baby. That was one dynamic the show definitely didn't need. It seems as if the people left behind have ascended or are on the road to ascending. No doubt they'll pop up again at some improbable time with her daughter having mysteriously aged. TJ seeing the nebula was also predictable, couldn't have her moping around again for a few episodes.

Time to replace Young as commander. His handling of the situation was pathetic for someone of his military rank.

They've also identified the key "Maquis" from the Lucian's who will blend in nicely with the rest of the crew. It took me a moment to recognise the new Lucian woman (from Supernatural). So how long before Scott moves in on her?

Guess someone has nanobots in their blood. Miraculous healing FTW.

FreudianSlippers

E is for Eli

D-Generate wrote: »

Nothing great about the episode to be honest. Just a standard resolution of a foothold situation that SG writers do by the numbers these days.

Was anyone else strangely happy that TJ's baby died? Adding a baby to the cast or any young character invariably ruins shows.

Totally agree with you. Was looking forward to the show's return, but I was bored and disappointed.

Few new characters (Sarn is right about the Voyager-esque storyline - in fact the whole show is basically Stargate: Voyager tbh)
Few uninteresting deaths, faux drama... hope it gets better, but I've been saying that since day one.

Roll on Caprica!

Tefral

D is for Daniel

Took me a while to figure out what was going on with Varro, i thought he was just an actor from another series or movie, but then i remembered he was also Odai Ventrell that killed Netan in SG-1 and took over the Lucian Alliance. Im wondering why they didnt continue that? He was also in that Episode with Adrian Conrad as some Russian minor character.

Episode was predicatable unfortunately... I was hoping for more action.. I cant wait to see what happens when rush finds the Bridge, hopefully things pick up then.

Random

it was all very weird. i think it was a bit sloppy how everything just got sorted all of a sudden. seems like lazy writing to me .. but we'll see, it's miles ahead of season 1 part 1 still.

Overheal

C is for Carter

It seems as if the people left behind have ascended or are on the road to ascending.

That hadn't even crossed my mind! Good call.

hightower1

Overheal wrote: »

And oh yeah I'm not bleeding out anymore and all the color has returned to my face after a bullet tore clean through my leg. Here I am walking and talking, "Oh that? Oh no it's fine. Nothing you have to worry about." Who is she trying to impress?

I'd imagine thats a lead up to her eventual transformation into what we have seen in the season 2 promo clips. Hopefully its not a one episode...oh chloe is sick... oh we cured her. Be nice to see her have to stay half or fully transformed into an alien for the whole season or at least a good few episodes.

token56

D is for Daniel

I thought it was an ok episode, just seemed all a bit of a mess and a bit disjointed but I've still got a lot of hope that its going to be a good season.

GarethWA

B is Ba'al

hightower1 wrote: »

I'd imagine thats a lead up to her eventual transformation into what we have seen in the season 2 promo clips. Hopefully its not a one episode...oh chloe is sick... oh we cured her. Be nice to see her have to stay half or fully transformed into an alien for the whole season or at least a good few episodes.

I'd reckon she'll keep it secret for a few episodes, and at the very end of each one, we'll see her looking at her leg getting worse until someone(€100 on Eli) finds out and then it'll become the main story, or at least a somewhat important factor in the episodes

alastair_doom

C is for Carter

All the cliffhanger elements were resolved a little too conveniently for my liking, especially the TJ baby story arc. Found it even worse than the SG:Atlantis cliffhanger where the control room blew up, and they all survived by ducking behind a console. This is meant to be the believable stargate franchise. Kinda pointless if its only gonna be realistic when its convenient.

If you can get past that, the rest of the ep wasn't too bad, and I did like the resolution to the foothold situation

Richard Dower

D is for Daniel

The numbers, once again...are woeful:

Stargate Universe (9pm)
- 1.175 million viewers
- 0.8/1 HH
- 0.5/1 A18-49

Richard Dower

D is for Daniel

Overheal wrote: »

They never planned on it, I think she found out she was pregnant shortly before filming on the first season began.

Episode felt par for the course. Oh hey, everyone's alive. And oh yeah I'm not bleeding out anymore and all the color has returned to my face after a bullet tore clean through my leg. Here I am walking and talking, "Oh that? Oh no it's fine. Nothing you have to worry about." Who is she trying to impress?

The next episode looks far, far more interesting... URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYsK2zwGHEw"]spoilers[/URL

I think they implied Chloe had been altered by those aliens in some way, tryna make her interesting and give her a storyline...not working lads, she's a dullard and nothing more then the ships bike :rolleyes:

Richard Dower

D is for Daniel

Sarn wrote: »

I actually really enjoyed it. That's probably due to withdrawal symptoms though.

I agree that it's good that they got rid of the baby. That was one dynamic the show definitely didn't need. It seems as if the people left behind have ascended or are on the road to ascending. No doubt they'll pop up again at some improbable time with her daughter having mysteriously aged. TJ seeing the nebula was also predictable, couldn't have her moping around again for a few episodes.

Time to replace Young as commander. His handling of the situation was pathetic for someone of his military rank.

They've also identified the key "Maquis" from the Lucian's who will blend in nicely with the rest of the crew. It took me a moment to recognise the new Lucian woman (from Supernatural). So how long before Scott moves in on her?

Guess someone has nanobots in their blood. Miraculous healing FTW.

Not long, he's banged every female on the ship...lucky bastid! :mad:

Richard Dower

D is for Daniel

I disliked they coped out on the baby TJ death....why try twist it to a happy ending?...let the little bugger die straight out. Overall the ep. was just OK, nothing great.

Kazuma

Richard Dower wrote: »

I disliked they coped out on the baby TJ death....why try twist it to a happy ending?...let the little bugger die straight out. Overall the ep. was just OK, nothing great.

+1

Didn't see the point of the "wooooh we saved your baby, but we MIGHT not have!" - just kill it outright, splat, dead baby.

Also...the poll...how come it goes in ascending order of better characters? I know alphabetism was the aim, but come on! How could carter be better than Daniel? Or Eli! :O

Richard Dower

D is for Daniel

lol --> http://www.sgusucks.com/

Overheal

C is for Carter

Richard Dower wrote: »

The numbers, once again...are woeful:

Stargate Universe (9pm)
- 1.175 million viewers
- 0.8/1 HH
- 0.5/1 A18-49

To be expected, I can tell you exactly how many season premieres I have known to watch: One

Give it a week or two.

alastair_doom wrote: »

All the cliffhanger elements were resolved a little too conveniently for my liking, especially the TJ baby story arc. Found it even worse than the SG:Atlantis cliffhanger where the control room blew up, and they all survived by ducking behind a console. This is meant to be the believable stargate franchise. Kinda pointless if its only gonna be realistic when its convenient.

If you can get past that, the rest of the ep wasn't too bad, and I did like the resolution to the foothold situation

Take that back!

Nothing - nothing - was as horrendous as that cliffhanger.

Richard Dower

D is for Daniel

LOL!

Sherifu

C is for Carter

It was ok, a bit too predictable that they only lost the baby[but not really]. /sigh

I'll give it a few episodes before calling TOD. :pac:

don ramo

C is for Carter

Richard Dower wrote: »

lol --> http://www.sgusucks.com/

never really grasped the concept of bashing a show for numerous seasons, never mind actually going to the effort of creating a website to air your opinion,

the biggest problem with SG:U id that its following SG:1 and SG:A, and the change of pace and direction doesnt sit well with traditional stargate, doesnt bother me, i like it, its just like any other stargate series, there a few excellent episodes, and a few lets never watch that episode again episodes,

some people set there standards way to high, the show is only staring off, 20 episodes have aired, and theres probably 6 or 7 excellent episodes, i think it did get off to a terrible start, but it was still good enough to hold my interest till it got better, which it did in the second half of season 1,

i admit they wrapped up the season premier a bit to neatly, and i was expecting something to be on the console when brody was staring at it weird, that would have been a better way to end it, but i suppose they have to work out what to do with the LA in the next episode,

jor el

D is for Daniel

Not a bad opener, fairly middle of the road, let down by the nice neat finish to everything. Everyone survives, except the two main baddies, hooray!!! And so on.

I was wondering what the story with Chloe's leg was, and was thinking that it was the ship that had healed her somehow, maybe by the scientist guy that was absorbed into the ship from the Chair. I hadn't read or seen any of those spoilers until now. Talk about flogging a dead horse. Chloe is boring, leave her character alone. More time on Lt James or the new Lucian bird, Ginn, is what's needed.

Kazuma wrote: »

Didn't see the point of the "wooooh we saved your baby, but we MIGHT not have!" - just kill it outright, splat, dead baby.

Then you'd have TJ sulking and pining for her dead baby for the next 6 months. Better that she's all happy about it, then we can move on as if it had ever happened. Also, they might actually bring that alien planet story back into it at some point.

Roll on next week, and hopefully it'll be better.

ixoy

Pretty decent but I'll echo others who think it as all wrapped up a little too conveniently. I mean at least give Chloe a limp or something - not a healing leg (my guess is she was tinkered with by the blue aliens. If so though, why did they leave her personality as it was instead of fixing it?).

As to TJ... I don't like the idea of more ascended alien types hanging around. Too much like deus ex machina. Let the baby die - be bold and daring.

Rest of it was pretty good. I don't want the Maquis Alliance to get too friendly though (thankfully none will have spirit guides). I'd like tensions - a lot of it.

Now I want to see them expand the universe further and introduce some proper threat.

hightower1

I was very underwhelmed by the whole episode, I think the serise so far is like a packet of starburst... 1 or 2 strawberry ones... 45 or 5 orange ones and the rest are manky lemon or lime ones that no one wants!

I dont blame the cast (mainly) or the subject material.... its the writers. They are so dead focused on the path they are going down with this "Charecter driven" ethos they have abandonded their roots for it. Someone seriously needs to have a sit down with them and show them why the fans liked the stargate franchise to begin with, agree with the writers that as the fan base gets more mature the show should too... great idea but there needs to be a middle ground.

I'd love to see more two episode story arcs, more action, A SMALL bit of humour and more of Destiny tech / systems... on a REGULAR basis. As it stands the show does this every 3 or four episodes and with so many filler episodes when we do get a glimps of destiny etc it feels like an underwhelming pat on the head for sitting through the filler.... finish your greens and you can have desert attitude needs to go.

With the ratings slipping they seriously need to re think the game plan, staying the coarse and hoping the hardcore will stay / bring in mature fans wont work. They need to introduce a slight bit more of the writing style that made the franchise what it is. SGU = ambitious writing concept taken too far, needs to be scaled back slightly to survive or we could end up with another Enterprise fiasco.

That show started sooooo sllllooowwww , rating dived, show got its two season notice of canx then got awsome for those 2 seasons cause they were no longer trying to milk each episode for lengthing the lifespan of the whole.

Overheal

C is for Carter

The reason so many people are turning off isn't hard to figure out. Sci Fi fans aren't retarded. Oh look, it's Voyager! We already have Basics we're just waiting on Learning Curve. It's a badly obvious plot rehash. If I want to re-watch voyager I can re-watch voyager. And yes of course that's for those the left later on but stayed through Chloe's inexplicable recovery. They should not have left that so oblivious.

If this show wants to save itself it's really got to move. A real plot is badly needed before this goes the way of Heroes.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

E is for Eli

were we supposed to recognise that nebula that tj saw from the planet?

battlestar galactica crossover?

Overheal

C is for Carter

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

were we supposed to recognise that nebula that tj saw from the planet?

battlestar galactica crossover?

I watched the 11:00 rerun to catch it, because who among us was actually paying full attention to that episode?

But whatshisface showed her the same nebula on the planet, saying it appeared in the sky when whatsherpregnantface showed up. Oh right: Johansen, or something.

Anyway, we see the same nebula - to her- appear at least a galaxy away from where she first saw it so now she's all doped up on hopeballs or something

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

E is for Eli

but where did she first see it?

hightower1

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

but where did she first see it?

On the faith planet, in the clearing over the lake.
Its a set up for a future storyline, just like chloe's magic healing power. It was another filler ep to tie off a cliffhanger and set up two more storylines and not much else.

Peace

C is for Carter

There's too many people up and running around after taking bullets only 24 hours previously.

hightower1

Peace wrote: »

There's too many people up and running around after taking bullets only 24 hours previously.

Couldnt agree more, when young was hurt in the pilot and ended up limping round the ship using a g36c as a crutch that was awsome. Realisim and a bit or a hard nut too = great. Now it seems like if your a main player you can shruk off a gunshot wound like it was a hangover.

vinny_963

D is for Daniel

overall pretty average alrite looking forward to seeing more of that supernatural girl though

Smyth

C is for Carter

This talk of poor views gets me nervy. It's a really good show. Hope it doesn't get cancelled. If heroes can go on for 4 seasons....

D-Generate

D is for Daniel

Wow considering the views here have been largely "meh" i am surprised the poll isn't representative of this.

Hopefully next episode the Maquis, TJ and Chloe get jettisoned in some freak incident that will never be further explored. I suggest they are replaced by using that freaking ROBOT!!! that they found in a previous episode. I enjoy the show but Rush, Eli, Greer and Young carry it for me. If they are marginalised in favour of a Chloe storyline or TJ storyline then I can see myself ditching it.

TheIrishGrover

C is for Carter

Richard Dower wrote: »

I disliked they coped out on the baby TJ death....why try twist it to a happy ending?...let the little bugger die straight out. Overall the ep. was just OK, nothing great.

Maybe I was reading too much into it but I took that whole section as being the start of a story arc. That and along with what's-her'name's mysteriously quickly healing wound.

It will be interesting to see what they will do with the LA crew....... As long as they don't go all Voyager on us: We're the Maquis, we're here to bring some strife to the Trek series....... for two episodes


As for the ratings: No offence but RD has a bit of a viewership fetish

Edit: Ah, didn't see your post there Hightower.......