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Royal Canal re-opened

  • 24-09-2010 3:52pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 606 time lord


    Shut in 1961, emptied of water in parts, flat bridges built across its width in many places the Royal Canal will officially be re-opened on 30th Sept 2010 from the Liffey to the Shannon.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,884 ✭✭✭✭ murphaph


    Is Spencer Dock fixed?


  • Registered Users Posts: 606 time lord


    murphaph wrote: »
    Is Spencer Dock fixed?

    Still awaiting restoration are some 750m through Spencer Dock which remain partially infilled and owned by C.I.E. and include the inoperable lifting bridge at Sheriff St. (Dublin City Council) with its accompanying low-level ESB cable.

    The spur into Longford Town is also not opening but on the up side it will be navigable from Dublin to the Shannon through Kilcock, Mullingar etc.

    Source Dan Bath "Royal Canal News"

    Log on to www.royalcanal.net for full information on the opening celebrations..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,032 DWCommuter


    murphaph wrote: »
    Is Spencer Dock fixed?

    The section through the CIE site is effectively an unfinished building site and navigation through to the Liffey is impossible. This section was to be developed as a linear park during the grandiose spencer dock development. But considering that Spencer Dock north will not be developed in the foreseable future, I'd wager heavily that this linear park won't be developed and the canal will remain as it currently is. ie. A victim of the property boom and reality check.

    But nice to finally see that the Royal is navigable again, even if its connection with the liffey is severed.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 Judgement Day


    DWCommuter wrote: »
    The section through the CIE site is effectively an unfinished building site and navigation through to the Liffey is impossible. This section was to be developed as a linear park during the grandiose spencer dock development. But considering that Spencer Dock north will not be developed in the foreseable future, I'd wager heavily that this linear park won't be developed and the canal will remain as it currently is. ie. A victim of the property boom and reality check.

    But nice to finally see that the Royal is navigable again, even if its connection with the liffey is severed.:rolleyes:

    Agreed. I'm a 'minor' canal enthusiast as well a reformed train spotter but I still can't see the Royal Canal reaching anything near its full potential as long as the Dublin end is such a no go area. I have travelled on inner city canals in the UK and I've seen nothing to compare with the area around Broombridge or near Docklands. I wouldn't take a boat through there without armed guards. :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,319 Trick of the Tail


    Any map of the canal please?

    A.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 Judgement Day


    The Royal Canal Amenity Group have been behind the campaign to reopen the route since the early 1970s - see here: http://www.royalcanal.net/ and try Google images for numerous maps of the Royal Canal. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,653 ✭✭✭ trellheim


    didn't they put in new gates at Spencer Dock.

    I can't see how "reopening" without being able to get to the Liffey is "reopening"


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭ dubhthach


    Well originally when the Royal canal opened for business on the Dublin end it was from Broadstone (branch filled in). The section to the liffey was built a little bit later. Somewhat akin to the Circular line of Grand Canal. However the Royal Canal company numbered it's locks from the liffey unlike the Grand, which were numbered from St. James basin, thence Lock 1 been at Suir Road on the Grand which is several locks above the Liffey at Ringsend.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,437 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Tabnabs


    time lord wrote: »
    the Royal Canal will officially be re-opened on 30th Sept 2010 from the Liffey to the Shannon.
    and be closed shortly thereafter due to water supply problems, (cart before the horse!)

    Always read the small print ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,781 ✭✭✭ Carawaystick


    dubhthach wrote: »
    Well originally when the Royal canal opened for business on the Dublin end it was from Broadstone (branch filled in). The section to the liffey was built a little bit later. Somewhat akin to the Circular line of Grand Canal. However the Royal Canal company numbered it's locks from the liffey unlike the Grand, which were numbered from St. James basin, thence Lock 1 been at Suir Road on the Grand which is several locks above the Liffey at Ringsend.

    the canal ended at the Blessington st Basin, which was a water reservoir for the good burghers of Dublin, bringing water from Lough Owel to Dublin.

    The Library at Phibsboro is built across the old line of the canal, and it went down the side of the 'Joy to the present canal.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭ dowlingm


    The Library at Phibsboro is built across the old line of the canal, and it went down the side of the 'Joy to the present canal.
    So the words of "The Auld Triangle" are no longer operative?
    And the auld triangle
    went jingle jangle
    all along the banks
    of the Royal Canal


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 61,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭ L1011


    the mainline runs along the north of the prison still.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,511 ✭✭✭✭ FreudianSlippers


    The Royal Canal Amenity Group have been behind the campaign to reopen the route since the early 1970s - see here: http://www.royalcanal.net/ and try Google images for numerous maps of the Royal Canal. :)
    They don't seem to have any maps up yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 Judgement Day


    OisinT wrote: »
    They don't seem to have any maps up yet.

    map.jpg

    Ireland's Royal Canal by Ruth Delany should prove useful for anybody seriously interested in the Royal Canal and it is available for €30 paperback or €35 hardback see here: http://www.lilliputpress.ie/listbook.html?id=138797961

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ9dg8I7kDmRnneATkeOjJE7CbfcN658-8t2-PqmLvwLCh5jVI&t=1&usg=__NfGUtJiI6exKEvxzo-YUVOiWAr0=


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,032 DWCommuter


    Some nice details on the Broadstone section of the Royal Canal at the link below.

    http://irishwaterwayshistory.com/abandoned-or-little-used-irish-waterways/the-broadstone-line-of-the-royal-canal/

    Overall its a great site for Canal history. The James Gate section of the Grand Canal is particularly interesting, given it was originally the mainline. I remember it in the late 70s looking very forlorn just before it was filled in completely and converted to a park. It was like a barge graveyard at the James Gate end.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭ dubhthach


    the canal ended at the Blessington st Basin, which was a water reservoir for the good burghers of Dublin, bringing water from Lough Owel to Dublin.

    The Library at Phibsboro is built across the old line of the canal, and it went down the side of the 'Joy to the present canal.

    no the canal didn't end at Belessington Basin. It ended in Broadstone harbour, which Broadstone station was built beside. The harbour was later filled in and used for the freight yard of the MG&WR. This can be seen when you look at the Ordance Survey Historic 6" map
    http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,715045,735230,6

    By the time the 25" map had been done it was gone though Foster's Aqueduct still stood and wasn't demolished until 1951.


  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭ Pope John 11


    Has the reopening date changed, or what, has anyone an update on this.

    http://www.iwai.ie/forum/read.php?1,6778,page=4


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭ mackerski


    alinton wrote: »
    Any map of the canal please?

    It's fairly well-mapped on OpenStreetMap. Though if anybody can contribute missing locks or anything else of interest, please do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 T Corolla


    Does this mean you can travel from Longford to Dublin by boat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 Judgement Day


    T Corolla wrote: »
    Does this mean you can travel from Longford to Dublin by boat.

    No. The Longford branch has not been restored - you can travel from Dublin to the River Shannon.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 T Corolla


    How will you be able to get there is there another way sorry I'm not that well up on the canal


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 Judgement Day


    T Corolla wrote: »
    How will you be able to get there is there another way sorry I'm not that well up on the canal

    Post #15

    map.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 T Corolla


    Thanks judgement day


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭ baldbear


    No. The Longford branch has not been restored - you can travel from Dublin to the River Shannon.

    I'm sure that clondara in Longford is the start point, from Richmond harbour. Can any ordinary joe book a trip on a boat?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,900 ✭✭✭ Vic_08


    baldbear wrote: »
    I'm sure that clondara in Longford is the start point, from Richmond harbour. Can any ordinary joe book a trip on a boat?

    You can hire a boat, there are plenty of companies hiring cruisers on the Shannon and narrowboats on the Grand canal, I imagine that there will be boats available on the Royal soon if not already.

    Although it has been physically possible to navigate hire craft all the way to the city centre on the Grand canal most if not all hire companies prohibit them being taken into the Dublin area for security reasons, I would expect the same to be the case for the Royal Canal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 Judgement Day


    Vic_08 wrote: »
    You can hire a boat, there are plenty of companies hiring cruisers on the Shannon and narrowboats on the Grand canal, I imagine that there will be boats available on the Royal soon if not already.

    Although it has been physically possible to navigate hire craft all the way to the city centre on the Grand canal most if not all hire companies prohibit them being taken into the Dublin area for security reasons, I would expect the same to be the case for the Royal Canal.

    And that about says it all! A country with a zero tolerance policy of doing anything about law and order. How can the country be marketed for tourists when this type of situation continues? :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,684 ✭✭✭✭ silverharp


    whats it like to cycle along it once you get out of Dublin?

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 61,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭ L1011


    silverharp wrote: »
    whats it like to cycle along it once you get out of Dublin?

    bumpy! Its grass towpath most of the way, some is gravel and some is very well compacted/graded gravel.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,281 ✭✭✭ westtip


    MYOB wrote: »
    bumpy! Its grass towpath most of the way, some is gravel and some is very well compacted/graded gravel.

    But is it possible to walk along the tow path the entire route?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 Judgement Day


    westtip wrote: »
    But is it possible to walk along the tow path the entire route?

    Hands off, the entire canal and towpath are needed for the imminent four tracking of the Dublin/Galway line - to cope with all the extra traffic coming off the WRC! :D


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