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Nature in the News

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,898 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    apparently it's not being left untouched:
    Investigation: Ireland’s first ever wilderness zone under threat from commercial forestry
    https://greennews.ie/ireland-first-wilderness-zone-under-threat-commercial-forestry/

    Coillte can't help themselves - love to see the back of them throughout the country and the land be given to local groups with a genuine interest in native woodland etc.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,279 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    someone once told me that there's actually a legal impetus on them to replant after felling, something to do with the law under which coillte was founded/enabled.
    if true - and i'll wait to confirm it before believing it - it would mean that gestures like ballycroy are empty until that law is changed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭gzoladz




  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Incidentally, I was listening to Rufus Wainwright's version of "Across the Universe" while I opened that.

    "Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes,
    That call me on and on across the universe,
    Thoughts meander like a restless wind inside a letter box they
    Stumble blindly as they make their way
    Across the universe"

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    someone once told me that there's actually a legal impetus on them to replant after felling, something to do with the law under which coillte was founded/enabled.
    if true - and i'll wait to confirm it before believing it - it would mean that gestures like ballycroy are empty until that law is changed.


    I think once land goes to forestry it is difficult to get it re-zoned to other uses.

    It is still a pity that they did not plant native trees or develop habitats that would be more conducive to wildlife.

    For anyone in the market.

    https://www.forestsales.ie/newsletterdetail.php?id=37


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    From the link cited earlier...
    The park is to grow from 11,000 to more than 15,000 hectares, with the transfer of Coillte land in the Nephin mountains – known as “Wild Nephin”.
    It will make Ballycroy, which already has coveted “Dark Sky” designation for stargazing, as the third largest of the State’s six national parks.
    Ballycroy, which is part of the Natura 2000 network, encompasses Atlantic blanket bog, including one of the last intact active systems in Ireland and western Europe at Owenduff, to the west of the Nephin Beg mountain range.
    The expansion will improve access points to Ballycroy, and allow for a link to the Great Western Greenway extending north to Bangor Erris and Ballycastle.
    Joint management by Coillte and the National Parks and Wildlife Service (NPWS) is to be consolidated into sole NPWS management, under a long-term lease with a nominal fee.
    So this land is not subject to the normal Coillte management programmes and procedures. It is a national park.


    "Rewilding" it as a proper national park would involve some money being spent on it. Some of the conifer plantations would need to be replanted as oak.
    Bogs would have to be assessed, and drainage patterns altered or restored, if necessary.


    Sheep would have to be moved out.


    Hardy ponies or Kerry dexter type cattle could be moved in, and allowed to live in feral herds.


    Hiking trails and huts could be established, to encourage tourism and more general interest in the project.


    In short, lots of stuff needs to be done...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭Strawberry1975


    Hiking Trails & Huts similar to the One
    That was Built without P&P or any Permission
    Squatter's Rights
    Would the be all called
    "Camp Gold Rash"
    Similar to the one on the Coolbawn River a Gold Mining Camp
    Are You Encouraging Tourism Hiking
    Magic Mushroom Picking Fishing
    As well as Gold Panning/Gold Mining
    That should Bring General Interest in that Project.
    Plus a Tea shop with all kinds of Refreshment's
    Hope it works out Long Term.
    Would One Need a Licence to Prospect/Mine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,548 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Apparently insects drinking tears of other animals is quite common but fairly uncommon for birds to be the providers ....

    https://roaring.earth/moth-drinks-tears-of-sleeping-birds/?utm_source=bfb&utm_medium=pa&utm_campaign=4560


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    "Camp Gold Rash"
    Similar to the one on the Coolbawn River
    Are You Encouraging Tourism Hiking
    As well as Gold Panning/Gold Mining
    Should Bring General Interest in the Project.
    Plus a Tea shop with all kinds if Refreshment's
    Hope it works out long term.
    A grand little place.
    Did I mention magic mushroom picking as well? Something for everybody, including yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭Strawberry1975


    The Magic Mushrooms are the Eaten Raw or are the Fryed or are the Boiled to make Soup.
    Keep on Rolling.
    G'luck with the
    Hallucination's.
    Will it help with the voices in one's Head There is no cure for it.
    Have looked into it.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,279 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    anyway, back on track:

    Corncrake comes back from the brink of extinction
    The State’s bid to save the corncrake from national extinction received a boost last year with the number of calling males increasing by 8 per cent to 151.

    The increase, which is being attributed to the warm weather, was the first rise in numbers since 2014.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/corncrake-comes-back-from-the-brink-of-extinction-1.3752871

    i'm not sure the content of the article justifies the headline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭Strawberry1975


    anyway, back on track:

    Corncrake comes back from the brink of extinction

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/corncrake-comes-back-from-the-brink-of-extinction-1.3752871

    i'm not sure the content of the article justifies the headline.
    They conditioner mower ended the corncrake as well as the Pheasant in most of the country great to hear there on the increase in the west
    Ya never see many owl's or hear the cokoo much


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,279 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,898 ✭✭✭Birdnuts



    It has happened in the past - i remember 98' being similar, followed by one of the coldest April's of the 20th centuary with snow and -6C frost!!:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Questioning sacred Cows


    Apparently the elusive corncrake - close to extinction in Ireland - is slowly starting to recover in numbers. This is good news.

    That say more intensive farming nearly wiped out this bird in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭Strawberry1975


    recedite wrote: »
    A grand little place.
    Did I mention magic mushroom picking as well? Something for everybody, including yourself.

    Can you still get Stoned in that spot.
    Them big stones lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1




  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Poor thing... I hope it pulls through. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Keplar240B


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/nine-deer-killed-by-train-travelling-from-cork-to-dublin-1.3766575
    Nine deer killed by train travelling from Cork to Dublin
    Train strikes herd in area where maximum speed limit is 145km/h


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭Strawberry1975


    Hiking Trails & Huts similar to the One
    That was Built without P&P or any Permission
    Squatter's Rights
    Would the be all called
    "Camp Gold Rash"
    Similar to the one on the Coolbawn River a Gold Mining Camp
    Are You Encouraging Tourism Hiking
    Magic Mushroom Picking Fishing
    As well as Gold Panning/Gold Mining
    That should Bring General Interest in that Project.
    Plus a Tea shop with all kinds of Refreshment's
    Hope it works out Long Term.
    Would One Need a Licence to Prospect/Mine.
    One wouldn't need one to illegally Mine
    Like this T***** on YouTube
    "jaffyger" on YouTube
    https://www.Watchyoutube.com/user/jaffyger


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭keps




  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    And yet again, it would seem humans were responsible... :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,986 ✭✭✭Eddie B




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,898 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Eddie B wrote: »

    Scary stuff - a neighbour back home has a beef demo farm and gets to go on farm visits to the UK. He said it struck him on his last few visits that even at the height of summer, the lack of insects from flies to moths on many UK farms was notable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,986 ✭✭✭Eddie B


    Birdnuts wrote: »
    Scary stuff - a neighbour back home has a beef demo farm and gets to go on farm visits to the UK. He said it struck him on his last few visits that even at the height of summer, the lack of insects from flies to moths on many UK farms was notable

    I don't know if studies have been done here in Ireland, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's as bad here, if not worse. Insect life here must be at an all time low. The vast majority dont give a dalm, and when they do eventually wake up to whats happening, it's already gonna be too late.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    anyway, back on track:

    Corncrake comes back from the brink of extinction

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/corncrake-comes-back-from-the-brink-of-extinction-1.3752871

    i'm not sure the content of the article justifies the headline.

    Donegal numbers are down from last year. West Connacht numbers have increased mainly due to intensive management being done on a number of farms in Mayo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Eddie B wrote: »
    I don't know if studies have been done here in Ireland, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's as bad here, if not worse. Insect life here must be at an all time low. The vast majority dont give a dalm, and when they do eventually wake up to whats happening, it's already gonna be too late.

    Anecdotally, I have noticed a major decline in house flies, blue bottles, wasps in the last couple of years. They aren't the kind of things that people like so nobody complains about their disappearance. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Same - I don't have the numbers obviously, but it seems like there has been a huge decline in moth activity too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Dogs becoming a threat to wildlife

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47062959

    Please let's not end up with dogs doing as much damage as cats to our wildlife.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Dogs becoming a threat to wildlife

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47062959

    Please let's not end up with dogs doing as much damage as cats to our wildlife.
    Not sure how scientific that article is. Possibly based on "researching" social media.
    There's a guy wondering how far dogs will get into tiger reserve. I would say not far at all, before they become a tiger's dinner.


    There's talk of dogs breeding with wolves. Well wolves are far more likely to kill dogs on sight. On rare occasions they interbreed, but this has not been a problem for wild wolf genetics in the last 10,000 years, so why would it be now?


    There's a video of some stags looking with disdain at 3 dogs yapping at them. The stags are not stressed at all.

    I've seen good sized dogs trying to chase deer in Wicklow and its pathetic. Deer will prance off, open a 500m gap, then stop to chew some grass.
    5 minutes later the dog catches up. Deer just does the same again, toying with the dog.


    There's a picture of what looks like dingos catching a deer, and another picture of African Painted Dogs in the sea catching a bird. These are not domestic dogs. They are wild animals.


    Its very rare a domestic type of dog can catch anything. Even when greyhounds are used in hare coursing, the hare is confined by fences and nets. Out in the open, they can easily escape from a dog.


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