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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    Geoge Monbiot is certainly prone to hyperbole! Pine Martens are an ideal way to reduce Grey Squirrel numbers and range,and increase those of Red Squirrels, but they're only one management technique of many that would have to be used.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Nice to see what can result from proper habitat restoration.
    http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141212-record-year-for-bitterns


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,896 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Nice to see what can result from proper habitat restoration.
    http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141212-record-year-for-bitterns

    No reason why the same couldn't happen over here. Somewhere like Boora would be ideal for these birds with a bit of work


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Capercaille


    Birdnuts wrote: »
    No reason why the same couldn't happen over here. Somewhere like Boora would be ideal for these birds with a bit of work
    Euros


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Euros

    I think you are right about the money.

    I wonder do we get many in the country at all? I know there have been odd reports here and there but do they breed here even in small numbers? I have often been in places that I think look fantastic for bitterns but have not seen or heard any. I know they are very secrective and so can be overlooked. Maybe this spring I'll see can I get out to an area where I might here a booming male. What a sound that would be


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    I think you are right about the money.

    I wonder do we get many in the country at all? I know there have been odd reports here and there but do they breed here even in small numbers? I have often been in places that I think look fantastic for bitterns but have not seen or heard any. I know they are very secrective and so can be overlooked. Maybe this spring I'll see can I get out to an area where I might here a booming male. What a sound that would be

    I think most of the reports of Bitterns here are in the winter season rather than the breeding season. To be honest I don't think there are any breeding in Ireland, even ones that are overlooked. They'd be great to have back though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Since about 2010 there have been a few winter sightings but no reports of even suspected breeding or summer residents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Capercaille


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    I think you are right about the money.

    I wonder do we get many in the country at all? I know there have been odd reports here and there but do they breed here even in small numbers? I have often been in places that I think look fantastic for bitterns but have not seen or heard any. I know they are very secrective and so can be overlooked. Maybe this spring I'll see can I get out to an area where I might here a booming male. What a sound that would be

    I saw one at Tacumshin in Jan 2011. More probable in Winter than the summer. Continental Bitterns escaping the winter seek out non-frozen reedbeds. If the winter in Europe is harsh then a greater chance they will land in Ireland.

    Breeding Bitterns require preferably large extensive fresh water (can tolerate Brackish reedbeds) which are in short supply in Ireland. Wintering birds can make use of much smaller reedbeds.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    'Rise in Shark attacks doesn't mean more Sharks' (from Australia, via New Scientist)

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530083.400-rise-in-shark-attacks-does-not-mean-more-sharks.html#.VNvday7o6KU


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Places like Australia and India (tigers) are criticised whenever they exterminate large predators, but at the same time the "moving them on" policy is not much good either. Meanwhile over in our part of the world we are safe in the knowledge that we exterminated everything larger than a fox hundreds of years ago.
    I don't see any solution for them until scientists invent some sort of technology to separate large predators from people. Nets and fences are just too expensive and unreliable, considering the vast areas involved.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    recedite wrote: »
    Places like Australia and India (tigers) are criticised whenever they exterminate large predators, but at the same time the "moving them on" policy is not much good either. Meanwhile over in our part of the world we are safe in the knowledge that we exterminated everything larger than a fox hundreds of years ago.
    I don't see any solution for them until scientists invent some sort of technology to separate large predators from people. Nets and fences are just too expensive and unreliable, considering the vast areas involved.


    The two things that come to mind are that 1) prevention is best (though as you say, we may need to come up with something new and more effective).

    and 2) Theres an argument for killing particularly problematic individuals, but a broad untargeted shark cull isn't the answer.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    'Do hedgehogs not like north Mayo?'

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/access-science-do-hedgehogs-not-like-northwest-mayo-1.2091186?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    The article highlights the importance of submitting any and all mammal sightings to the National Biodiversity Data Centre ahead of the Mammal Atlas being put together next year. EVERY SINGLE RECORD IS IMPORTANT - every mouse, rat, rabbit, deer, fox hedgehog - everything! Don't assume that someobody else has recorded them in your area or that the NBDC 'probably know already that they're there'!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Theres an argument for killing particularly problematic individuals, but a broad untargeted shark cull isn't the answer.
    I agree. But the policy of closing the beach until the predator moves on seems like a good way of training them to hunt people. Maybe if they threw in a dead pig or something every day after a shark attack, the killer shark would stay around, and then they could target it.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    recedite wrote: »
    I agree. But the policy of closing the beach until the predator moves on seems like a good way of training them to hunt people. Maybe if they threw in a dead pig or something every day after a shark attack, the killer shark would stay around, and then they could target it.


    I'm not sure what you mean by the first bit there? Surely taking everyone out of the water takes away their potential food source - if there's no food then the shark will have no interest in sticking around, and probably minimal interest in specifically coming back.

    And if anything, I think the second bit you said is more likely to cause problems - it'll draw in more than the one problematic shark to the area - so you're actively attracting sharks to an area near the beach! Bad idea! And if you're then to suggest killing all of the sharks, then you're just doing the broadscale cull!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Surely taking everyone out of the water takes away their potential food source - if there's no food then the shark will have no interest in sticking around, and probably minimal interest in specifically coming back.
    Take everyone out for their own safety yes, but after that they should be trying to lure in the shark.
    If the shark realises after a few days that the hunting ground is now barren, it may travel further down the coast to try another beach, where the people will be caught off guard. Hence the situation of more attacks, even though less big sharks. Also I'm pretty sure they are capable of remembering their successful feeding grounds, and coming back to the same place at intervals. They are even capable of timing their arrival at some beaches to coincide with the breeding seasons of penguins and seals, arriving just in time to catch the prey entering the water.
    And if anything, I think the second bit you said is more likely to cause problems - it'll draw in more than the one problematic shark to the area - so you're actively attracting sharks to an area near the beach! Bad idea!
    There is some risk of that, but as a strictly short term measure, it is more likely to attract a big predator that is already patrolling the beach than one that is out in deep water.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    recedite wrote: »
    Take everyone out for their own safety yes, but after that they should be trying to lure in the shark.
    If the shark realises after a few days that the hunting ground is now barren, it may travel further down the coast to try another beach, where the people will be caught off guard. Hence the situation of more attacks, even though less big sharks. Also I'm pretty sure they are capable of remembering their successful feeding grounds, and coming back to the same place at intervals. They are even capable of timing their arrival at some beaches to coincide with the breeding seasons of penguins and seals, arriving just in time to catch the prey entering the water.


    I see where you're coming from in terms of trying to get the shark in a short space of time - I just think it's a dangerous game to be playing given that the blood and scent of that bait animal will linger in the water after you've gotten that problematic shark.

    And the "may move to the next beach" argument is a bit 50/50 in my opinion - it could just as easily not do that!
    recedite wrote: »
    There is some risk of that, but as a strictly short term measure, it is more likely to attract a big predator that is already patrolling the beach than one that is out in deep water.

    Well like I said, the scent and body of that bait animal will probably remain for some time - seems like a risky game to playing compared to removing the food source!

    But we'll agree to disagree!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    Two articles on badger baiting in the Tullamore area - including a successful prosecution:

    http://www.wri.ie/Linked%20docs/Charleville%20Badgers.pdf


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    An article about some upcoming research on Deer in Ireland - should be interesting!

    http://t.co/uBhmedI2De


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    Two articles on badger baiting in the Tullamore area - including a successful prosecution:

    http://www.wri.ie/Linked%20docs/Charleville%20Badgers.pdf

    And another badger story, where a dog was caught in what seems to have been an illegal snare:
    http://www.westcorkpeople.ie/features/west-cork-badgers-snared-for-illegal-and-cruel-sport/


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    Nothing definite, but the Golden Eagle Trust suspect that the female of a pair of White-tailed Eagles in Co. Galway has died. This is based on the movements of its partner, a male with a satellite tracker on it, who has been wandering the country a lot this winter - which it would be less likely to do if its mate was around: https://www.facebook.com/144404808950774/photos/a.145791098812145.28838.144404808950774/858261820898399/?type=1
    After 3 years apparently well-settled on territory and paired with a female in west Connemara, something is going on with 2009 male Star. Over the winter he made a couple of excursions away from Connemara to south-east Galway but returned to his territory. Not so just now though.

    After returning to his territory on 6th Jan he headed east on 13th Jan roosting on the shore of Lough Corrib, the to Loughrea in SE Galway on 15th, then the shores of Lough Derg near Portumna on 18th, east into north Tipperary near Lorrha on 20th, north into south Offaly on 21st, to Lough Ennel in Westmeath on 23rd, and on to nearby Lough Owel on 24th Jan where he spent the next few days.

    On 28th Jan Star headed east into Meath then south to roost near Blessington, Co. Wicklow nest day. On 30th he headed further south to roost near Tullow, Co. Carlow, then south-west into Tipp roosting between Fethard and New Inn next day. On 1st Feb Star started to head back north-west to roost near Feakle in east Clare, then on to the west shore of Lough Corrib next day. On 7th Feb he finally returned back on territory to roost near his 2014 nest site. On 9th Feb he was back on the shore of Lough Corrib where he remains for the moment.

    Although it’s as yet too early to be definite, all the evidence from his movements away from his territory suggests that something bad has happened to his mate. It’s just too unlikely that he would be spending so long away and travel so extensively round Ireland (see the map showing his GPS satellite tracks) if he had a mate still on territory. Over the next couple of months we should be able to confirm this but if something has happened to his mate (2009 female) it’s unlikely we will ever know for sure what as she doesn’t have a working transmitter to relocate her. Star will be keen to breed again this year so let’s hope he finds his old or a new mate pronto!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭vistafinder


    And another badger story, where a dog was caught in what seems to have been an illegal snare:
    http://www.westcorkpeople.ie/features/west-cork-badgers-snared-for-illegal-and-cruel-sport/

    After reading that you would wonder why its the badgers are called animals.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    Irish Raptors: Tralee Bypass survey finds two dead Barn Owls in one day

    http://irishraptors.blogspot.com/2015/02/tralee-bypass-survey-finds-two-dead_12.html?spref=tw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭marlin vs


    This bird was ringed, the details revealing that it too was ringed on 9th August 2015 at a site near Milltown, about 15km distant. A1RWw8p.gif


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes


    marlin vs wrote: »
    This bird was ringed, the details revealing that it too was ringed on 9th August 2015 at a site near Milltown, about 15km distant. A1RWw8p.gif


    ....presumably thats meant to be 2014....


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭OpenYourEyes




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Woodville56


    Anyone know what's become of the "Mooney Goes Wild" slot on the former Mooney Show ? Is it gone gone or to be given a life of its own somewhere else on the RTE schedules? I didn't often get to listen in on Fridays but occasionally caught snippets. Just wondering if it's a downgrading of nature & environmental topics on RTE Radio or wil Mooney reemerge with a new nature related radio programme given his new "role" within RTE ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    I presume its gone along with the presenter. The replacement show is a painful to listen to "dumbing down" of national radio.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Anyone know what's become of the "Mooney Goes Wild" slot on the former Mooney Show ? Is it gone gone or to be given a life of its own somewhere else on the RTE schedules? I didn't often get to listen in on Fridays but occasionally caught snippets. Just wondering if it's a downgrading of nature & environmental topics on RTE Radio or wil Mooney reemerge with a new nature related radio programme given his new "role" within RTE ?

    Mooney Goes Wild was supposed to be going to a weekend slot but I didn't hear the schedule.


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