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RTE Football Team of the Year

  • 19-09-2010 10:11pm
    #1
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    1 - A Quirke, Cork
    2 - P Kelly, Kildare
    3 - M Shields, Cork
    4 - P McMahon, Dublin
    5 - P Kissane, Cork
    6 - K McKernan, Down
    7 - E Bolton, Kildare
    8 - P Keenan, Louth
    9 - M D McAuley, Dublin
    10 - D Hughes, Down
    11 - M Clarke, Down
    12 - P Kelly, Cork
    13 - D Goulding, Cork
    14 - B Brogan, Dublin
    15 - C Cooper, Kerry


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭Browney7


    ROFL at some selections. The omission of Johnny Doyle is baffling to be honest. Championship top scorer counts for nothing it seems


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭tommy26


    Johnny Doyle should be there instead of cooper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    Where is Doyle?

    Cooper???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    Very pleased with that list but would have liked a limerick and or meath player(s) mentioned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭muletide


    WTF, where is johnny Doyle , that is ridiculous


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Johhny Doyle in the studio as they announced it, felt sorry for the guy really!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭tommy26


    I would have david kelly in there instead of cooper but to leave doyle out pure joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,778 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    What a fcking joke of a team! From keeper all the way to corner- forward there were some baffling decisions! How Johnny Doyle was excluded and Goulding got in is beyond me. Id expect the All-Star team to be very different. Just shows the lack of football knowledge by that panel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    Doyle was absolutely superb vs us in the semi's, nearly single handily got kildare to the final.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    Hughes and Clarke have been awesome this year for us, i'd probably have poland in there aswell.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 red_eskimo


    Whilst I would have Doyle in my side ahead of Cooper and he did have a great season I didn't think he scared the opppositons defence like Brogan and Goulding and I can understand why he was left out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭overmantle


    tommy26 wrote: »
    Johnny Doyle should be there instead of cooper.

    Everybody won't agree on all the selections but this one was strange. I thought it had to be Doyle. Then again, Doyle has a great chance of an All-Star. Just wonder if the panellists felt they had to put in a token Kerry man?:)


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Magill wrote: »
    Hughes and Clarke have been awesome this year for us, i'd probably have poland in there aswell.

    I watched Clarke playing Australian rules and he is a fantastic talent, 23 butis playing with a maturity beyond his years!
    overmantle wrote: »
    Everybody won't agree on all the selections but this one was strange. I thought it had to be Doyle. Then again, Doyle has a great chance of an All-Star. Just wonder if the panellists felt they had to put in a token Kerry man?:)

    Probably - they mentioned Doyle for a spot on the wing, but to leave out the top scorer in the championship was baffling!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Have to agree with the above. I wouldn't have left him out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    1 - A Quirke, Cork
    2 - P Kelly, Kildare
    3 - M Shields, Cork
    4 - P McMahon, Dublin
    5 - P Kissane, Cork
    6 - K McKernan, Down
    7 - E Bolton, Kildare
    8 - P Keenan, Louth
    9 - M D McAuley, Dublin
    10 - D Hughes, Down
    11 - M Clarke, Down
    12 - P Kelly, Cork
    13 - D Goulding, Cork
    14 - B Brogan, Dublin
    15 - C Cooper, Kerry

    Are you taking the piss. He was absolutely awful, no way he deserves that, Griffin will be taking his spot back next year. O Carroll was much better than him this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Always number 1


    Alan Quirke (Cork) - thought it was between him and McVeigh and felt that McVeighs kick-outs let him down today.
    Peter Kelly (Kildare) - wouldn't disagree with it
    Michael Shields (Cork) - disagree - thought O'Carroll deserved this one
    Philly McMahon (Dublin) - hmm not sure - if Sligo had won Connaught then Ross Donovan could've gotten it
    Paudie Kissane (Cork) - disagree
    Kevin McKernan (Down) - agree
    Emmet Bolton (Kildare) - maybe
    Paddy Keenan (Louth) - did well - if they were going to give one to a Louth midfielder then White should've gotten it
    MD McAuley (Dublin) - hard to disagree but can't see him getting an All Star
    Danny Hughes (Down) - agree
    Marty Clarke (Down) - held today but agree
    Paddy Kelly (Cork) - disagree
    Daniel Goulding (Cork) - disagree
    Bernard Brogan (Dublin) - absolutely
    Colm Cooper (Kerry) - yes he did well in the games he played but ahead of the Championships top scorer?

    Unlucky to miss out: Rory O'Carroll - Dublin, David Kelly - Sligo, Donie Shine - Roscommon, Padraic Joyce - Galway (if you use the same rationale that got Gooch selected) James Kavanagh - Kildare, Mark Poland - Down, Seamus Kenny - Meath, John Galvin - Limerick, Daryl Flynn - Kildare Stephen Bray - Meath and maybe even Ger Brennan - Dublin.

    Too many Cork players in that team - yes they are All Ireland Champions but they were mediocre all year
    How could they look John Doyle in the face in the studio and tell him that they thought the Gooch was better????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Alan Quirke (Cork) - thought it was between him and McVeigh and felt that McVeighs kick-outs let him down today.
    Michael Shields (Cork) - disagree - thought O'Carroll deserved this one
    Paudie Kissane (Cork) - disagree
    Paddy Kelly (Cork) - disagree
    Daniel Goulding (Cork) - disagree
    Too many Cork players in that team - yes they are All Ireland Champions but they were mediocre all year

    ****ing hell. I knew there was a reason I stopped posting on this forum, its getting as pitiful as Hoganstand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Always number 1


    Jeez at least on hoganstand or gaa tipster you can express your opinion and a good debate will then take place on the merits or flaws of the argument

    :confused:

    Cork were steeped to win the All Ireland and even though the best team won on the day, the best 15 players in the country did not


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Alan Quirke (Cork) - thought it was between him and McVeigh and felt that McVeighs kick-outs let him down today.
    Peter Kelly (Kildare) - wouldn't disagree with it
    Michael Shields (Cork) - disagree - thought O'Carroll deserved this one
    Philly McMahon (Dublin) - hmm not sure - if Sligo had won Connaught then Ross Donovan could've gotten it
    Paudie Kissane (Cork) - disagree
    Kevin McKernan (Down) - agree
    Emmet Bolton (Kildare) - maybe
    Paddy Keenan (Louth) - did well - if they were going to give one to a Louth midfielder then White should've gotten it
    MD McAuley (Dublin) - hard to disagree but can't see him getting an All Star
    Danny Hughes (Down) - agree
    Marty Clarke (Down) - held today but agree
    Paddy Kelly (Cork) - disagree
    Daniel Goulding (Cork) - disagree
    Bernard Brogan (Dublin) - absolutely
    Colm Cooper (Kerry) - yes he did well in the games he played but ahead of the Championships top scorer?

    Unlucky to miss out: Rory O'Carroll - Dublin, David Kelly - Sligo, Donie Shine - Roscommon, Padraic Joyce - Galway (if you use the same rationale that got Gooch selected) James Kavanagh - Kildare, Mark Poland - Down, Seamus Kenny - Meath, John Galvin - Limerick, Daryl Flynn - Kildare Stephen Bray - Meath and maybe even Ger Brennan - Dublin.

    Too many Cork players in that team - yes they are All Ireland Champions but they were mediocre all year
    How could they look John Doyle in the face in the studio and tell him that they thought the Gooch was better????

    Two things
    1 - explain why you agree or disagree, especially with Kissane and Goulding, its one thing to give an opinion, but not to back it up is wrong, especially if it is a good debate you are looking for, no one can see the merits of your argument with one word!
    2 - throw up your team of the year, just to see how it compares!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Jeez at least on hoganstand or gaa tipster you can express your opinion and a good debate will then take place on the merits or flaws of the argument

    :confused:

    Cork were steeped to win the All Ireland and even though the best team won on the day, the best 15 players in the country did not

    Disagree. :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Two things
    1 - explain why you agree or disagree, especially with Kissane and Goulding
    2 - throw up your team of the year, just to see how it compares!

    Yeah, but the All-Ireland and League Final wins aside, Cork really are just ****. I mean they don't have a top class forward, there are 200 footballers in the country who are better then Aidan Walsh, they didn't beat Kerry, yerra yerra yerra yadda yadda yadda...

    *insert more absurd nonsense pilfered from Joe Brolly and bitter Kerry people here*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭ixus


    To say Kelly's work rate was immense is a kick in the face to Doyle. He was the top scorer in the championship and yet was regularly in his own full back line taking possession, giving and getting back up the pitch.

    He was everywhere in pretty much every game, especially the Derry game. Martin Clarke is probably the only other player to have covered as much ground or taken as much possession as him.

    On Kildare's last kick out against Down, he told the keeper to aim for him (revealed it in local paper) and claimed a magnificent catch in midfield, winning a free to put the ball in for the last play of the game.

    What does the lad have to do to win an All Star short of winning an All-Ireland medal?

    The Gooch was class this year and I had a sneaking suspicion he'd make it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Always number 1


    I thought it was fairly clear by the choices I agreed with and disagreed with who the team was:

    Alan Quirke (Cork)
    Peter Kelly (Kildare)
    Dan Gordon (Down)
    Ross Donovan (Sligo)
    Emmet Bolton (Kildare)
    Kevin McKernan (Down)
    Noel O'Leary (Cork)
    Brian White (Louth)
    John Galvin (Limerick)
    Danny Hughes (Down)
    Marty Clarke (Down)
    Ciaran Sheehan Cork)
    David Kelly (Sligo)
    Bernard Brogan (Dublin)
    John Doyle (Kildare)

    Kissane was ok but there were other better half backs.
    Goulding does well from placed balls but not enough from play

    This is just my opinion but hey thats what were all here for to express our opinion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Et Cetera


    I thought it was fairly clear by the choices I agreed with and disagreed with who the team was:

    Alan Quirke (Cork)
    Peter Kelly (Kildare)
    Dan Gordon (Down)
    Ross Donovan (Sligo)
    Emmet Bolton (Kildare)
    Kevin McKernan (Down)
    Noel O'Leary (Cork)
    Brian White (Louth)
    John Galvin (Limerick)
    Danny Hughes (Down)
    Marty Clarke (Down)
    Ciaran Sheehan Cork)
    David Kelly (Sligo)
    Bernard Brogan (Dublin)
    John Doyle (Kildare)

    Kissane was ok but there were other better half backs.
    Goulding does well from placed balls but not enough from play

    This is just my opinion but hey thats what were all here for to express our opinion

    Sheehan > Kelly?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Orizio wrote: »
    ****ing hell. I knew there was a reason I stopped posting on this forum, its getting as pitiful as Hoganstand.

    LOL, stopped posting but kept reading. Always gives me a bit of a laugh when people do that.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭phoenix833


    I too totally disagree with John Doyle being left off the team. How McStay can say that the Gooch was better than JD is beyond belief. When they were talking about the MOTM for today he said its hard for them to not pick forwards. Too bad he didn't think about the top scorer in the C'ship and a close runner for POTY when making his forwards selection.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    I thought it was fairly clear by the choices I agreed with and disagreed with who the team was:

    Alan Quirke (Cork)
    Peter Kelly (Kildare)
    Dan Gordon (Down)
    Ross Donovan (Sligo)
    Emmet Bolton (Kildare)
    Kevin McKernan (Down)
    Noel O'Leary (Cork)
    Brian White (Louth)
    John Galvin (Limerick)
    Danny Hughes (Down)
    Marty Clarke (Down)
    Ciaran Sheehan Cork)
    David Kelly (Sligo)
    Bernard Brogan (Dublin)
    John Doyle (Kildare)

    Kissane was ok but there were other better half backs.
    Goulding does well from placed balls but not enough from play

    This is just my opinion but hey thats what were all here for to express our opinion

    It was clear who you disagreed on, but not why. Doesn't apply to you, but in my experience people who just throw down agree or disagree are just sh*t stirrers or WUMs, but no fair enough, you gave your own team as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,778 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    Orizio wrote: »
    ****ing hell. I knew there was a reason I stopped posting on this forum, its getting as pitiful as Hoganstand.

    Yup. You're completely right to stop posting. Every other GAA man in the country is wrong. You should start your own forum and only let people with proper opinions in. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    THFC wrote: »
    Yup. You're completely right to stop posting. Every other GAA man in the country is wrong. You should start your own forum and only let people with proper opinions in. :rolleyes:

    Disagree. ;)

    (this is easy)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    flahavaj wrote: »
    LOL, stopped posting but kept reading. Always gives me a bit of a laugh when people do that.:pac:

    The first time in months - awful mistake.

    I can't even remember if you are from Kerry or Waterford actually. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,258 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    cooper got in purely as biggest footballing name like shefflin in hurling although he doesnt deserve to be there before johnnie doyle, shame really although a memorable year imo.

    also emmet bolton??? good footballer but an all star?? and im lily white through and through.....

    although maybe he did play well in championship apart from louth game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Honestly, there was about 30-40 players you could have picked for this - however Doyle (along with Patrick Kelly) should have been there.

    Other then that its all a bit bleh. Brogan for POTY though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    Orizio wrote: »
    Honestly, there was about 30-40 players you could have picked for this - however Doyle (along with Patrick Kelly) should have been there.

    Other then that its all a bit bleh. Brogan for POTY though.

    Not being biased but He is without a doubt player of the year. The American's call it Most Valuable Player (MVP) and in Dublin's case he was absolutely essential to the Dublin team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Yes he was a class apart all year, and seems like a good sort.

    Anyway, best of luck to everyone and their county in the coming season. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,350 ✭✭✭Het-Field


    unknown13 wrote: »
    Not being biased but He is without a doubt player of the year. The American's call it Most Valuable Player (MVP) and in Dublin's case he was absolutely essential to the Dublin team.

    Dan Goulding's final performance may put him in the frame. However, I believe it was Marty Clark's to lose. Unfortunatly, in spite of a decent game today, it wont be enough. It will be Goulding or Brogan. If the GAA want consistency, they will select Brogan.

    The decision to omit Doyle is very strange indeed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Paddy Keenan (Louth) - did well - if they were going to give one to a Louth midfielder then White should've gotten it
    Strongly disagree with this. Keenan played very well all through the championship and was without doubt Louths best player this year. White started the year strongly and peaked during the Kildare match where he had an excellent game. Was pretty average against Westmeath and pretty poor against Meath in the final. I'd have Keenan ahead of White every day of the week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,742 ✭✭✭blackbelt


    1 - A Quirke, Cork- Merited but would have put McVeigh in before Quirke.Shot stopping ability was second to none.Cluxton nightmare against Meath took him out of contendership.

    2 - P Kelly, Kildare-

    Yes although I feel there was no real standout no.2 this year.

    3 - M Shields,Cork-

    Thought Cadogan or R.O Carroll would be better options but I would say the performance against Dublin sealed this one.

    4 - P McMahon, Dublin-

    Yes.Stopped Armagh scoring a crucial goal and scored some nice points.A nice long range beauty against Tyrone in particular.

    5 - P Kissane, Cork -

    Yes.See no.2

    6 - K McKernan, Down -

    Yes but would face stiff competition from Ger Brennan for me.

    7 - E Bolton, Kildare -

    Yes.Although I would have liked to see Sligo get a bit further as John Davey could have possibly been in there on form.

    8 - P Keenan, Louth -

    Would rank his midfield partner White ahead of him and should have filled this slot.John Galvin (Limerick) would be another strong contender.

    9 - M D McAuley, Dublin -

    No doubt about it.Best find for Dublin in my opinion and was very influential with his fielding,turnovers,link up play and contributed to the scoreboard in every game.

    10 - D Hughes, Down -

    Hands down the best player for Down in the Final though Bryan Cullen and James Kavanagh would have been my choice.Would have went for Kavanagh overall as he destroyed Monaghan and Meath nearly single handedly.

    11 - M Clarke, Down

    No doubt over this one.

    12 - P Kelly, Cork

    Yes.

    13 - D Goulding, Cork

    Todays showing is probably the basis for having Goulding here.Yes but I think Mark Poland could have good cause to get the spot too.Donie Shine could have been a contender but lack of progression can kill you.

    14 - B Brogan, Dublin

    Player of the year - fact. McStay was right to shirk off any possibility of any other full forward to get this place.

    15 - C Cooper, Kerry

    Joke of a selection.I would have him as a token nomination.Think pundits are guilty at looking more favourably on past all-stars from big teams.Johnny Doyle must have had a wry smile on his face upon listening to this.I feel this was a McStay led choice.Granted Cooper didn't have a terrible season,the Munster Final must mean something to the panel but otherwise he was too tame for my liking against Down in crucial periods after the disallowed goal.Johnny Doyle to cement no.15 position.


    Other players of note: Claffey (Roscommon goalie), Ger Brennan (Dublin) , Eoghan O Gara (Dublin), David Kelly (Sligo) Eoin Mulligan (Tyrone) , Paul Kerrigan (Cork) , Ian Kelly (Limerick), Colm Judge (Louth) , Graham Reilly (Meath) Stephen Bray (Meath)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Some interesting selections to say the least.

    Re: John Doyle - Yes he waa top scorer and showed great character in a couple of games after a poor start, but people seem to be forgetting that he kicked alot of wides this year and was off colour in a couple of games. The good mixed with the bad. A possible yes, but not the cert that some here seem to think. James kavanagh has equally strong claims.

    I agree that Gooch is a joke of a choice. Great footballer but I don't see what he did this year that was special by his standards. My 6 forwards would be:

    10.James Kavanagh 11.Marty Clarke 12 Graham Reilly

    13.Daniel Goulding 14.Bernard Brogan 15.David Kelly

    Player Of The Year - Bernard Brogan.

    Marty Clarke might have snatched POTY with a superb final performance but that never really materialised, so Brogan is a shoe-in.

    Anyone questioning Daniel Goulding's inclusion should bear in mind that it was his cool headed freetaking that won the game for Cork today (and most of them were not easy frees). Kicked a couple of good scores from play aswell. He answered his critics when it mattered.

    The only forward position I had trouble with was number 10 where Daniel Hughes was a very close second to James Kavanagh.

    I'll pick the other positions after some further digestion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Although I don't neccesarily agree with the Gooch's inclusion I think the uproar over johnny Doyles omission is a bit over the top. Yes he was the top scorer in the Championship with 1-49 scored but 32 of those points were from frees. As well as this he had an extra game against Antrim to boost his tally. Of course those frees still had to be pointed and no better man than Johnny to do it but it does skew his tally a bit.

    Against Louth he was pretty poor and there were even people in here saying he was past it.

    First game against Antrim he was pretty poor (as were most of the Kildare team as they hit a huge amount of wides).

    Played well in the replay grabbing 1-06 in what was a dominant Kildare display.

    Against Leitrim he was poor in the first half. Picked up in the second half scoring a couple of nice frees.

    Against Derry he was excellent and although nearly all of his scores were from frees he played really well.

    Against Monaghan he was awful. Was missing scoreable frees all day and Kildare were lucky that their other forwards stepped up to the mark.

    Against Meath he was fantastic. Scoring frees from all over the place. Had a really good game.

    Against Down he scored 6 points (5 from frees) but I thought he was a tad disappointing overall and didn't really control the match as he had done in the previous round.

    So out of eight games, by my reckoning, he had three really good games, three average games and two awful games. Obviously he's a contender for a spot in the team of the year but I definitely don't think it's as clear cut as some are making out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Long Term Louth


    blackbelt wrote: »
    1 - A Quirke, Cork- Merited but would have put McVeigh in before Quirke.Shot stopping ability was second to none.Cluxton nightmare against Meath took him out of contendership.

    2 - P Kelly, Kildare-

    Yes although I feel there was no real standout no.2 this year.

    3 - M Shields,Cork-

    Thought Cadogan or R.O Carroll would be better options but I would say the performance against Dublin sealed this one.

    4 - P McMahon, Dublin-

    Yes.Stopped Armagh scoring a crucial goal and scored some nice points.A nice long range beauty against Tyrone in particular.

    5 - P Kissane, Cork -

    Yes.See no.2

    6 - K McKernan, Down -

    Yes but would face stiff competition from Ger Brennan for me.

    7 - E Bolton, Kildare -

    Yes.Although I would have liked to see Sligo get a bit further as John Davey could have possibly been in there on form.

    8 - P Keenan, Louth -

    Would rank his midfield partner White ahead of him and should have filled this slot.John Galvin (Limerick) would be another strong contender.

    9 - M D McAuley, Dublin -

    No doubt about it.Best find for Dublin in my opinion and was very influential with his fielding,turnovers,link up play and contributed to the scoreboard in every game.

    10 - D Hughes, Down -

    Hands down the best player for Down in the Final though Bryan Cullen and James Kavanagh would have been my choice.Would have went for Kavanagh overall as he destroyed Monaghan and Meath nearly single handedly.

    11 - M Clarke, Down

    No doubt over this one.

    12 - P Kelly, Cork

    Yes.

    13 - D Goulding, Cork

    Todays showing is probably the basis for having Goulding here.Yes but I think Mark Poland could have good cause to get the spot too.Donie Shine could have been a contender but lack of progression can kill you.

    14 - B Brogan, Dublin

    Player of the year - fact. McStay was right to shirk off any possibility of any other full forward to get this place.

    15 - C Cooper, Kerry

    Joke of a selection.I would have him as a token nomination.Think pundits are guilty at looking more favourably on past all-stars from big teams.Johnny Doyle must have had a wry smile on his face upon listening to this.I feel this was a McStay led choice.Granted Cooper didn't have a terrible season,the Munster Final must mean something to the panel but otherwise he was too tame for my liking against Down in crucial periods after the disallowed goal.Johnny Doyle to cement no.15 position.


    Other players of note: Claffey (Roscommon goalie), Ger Brennan (Dublin) , Eoghan O Gara (Dublin), David Kelly (Sligo) Eoin Mulligan (Tyrone) , Paul Kerrigan (Cork) , Ian Kelly (Limerick), Colm Judge (Louth) , Graham Reilly (Meath) Stephen Bray (Meath)

    8 - P Keenan, Louth -

    Would rank his midfield partner White ahead of him and should have filled this slot.John Galvin (Limerick) would be another strong contender.

    I was at every Louth match this year and Keenan was significantly ahead of White in all bar one, although White did play well (apart from the Dublin match) Keenan was definately Louth's most influential player, in particular when the "going got tough" his presence and tenacity lifted the whole team .

    Its absolutely brilliant from a Louth perspective to have both players mentioned as possible candidates having spent years in the doldrums. I thought John Galvin was also in serious contention, I cannot understand how Johnny Doyle was left out and I also expected Meath's Graham Reilly to have been in the team.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    unknown13 wrote: »
    Are you taking the piss. He was absolutely awful, no way he deserves that, Griffin will be taking his spot back next year. O Carroll was much better than him this year.
    Are you for real? Griff will find it very hard to break into the team next year with the likes of Cooper and Devereux coming through from the U21s which is unfortunate as he was getting more and more effective at WHB during each game of the NFL.

    McMahon deserves his place on merit.

    Gooch getting on the team is a typical RTE decision, Johnny Doyle being left off is complete madness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭elguapo


    I understand why people are upset about Johnny Doyle not getting in the team, but anyone who actually watched the Gooch this year would not be surprised by his inclusion. He played in 4 big championship games this season.
    1. Cork - Very good performance with a limited supply of ball, was instrumental in keeping Kerry in the game, and scored the free to to level the match at the death
    2. Cork (Replay) - Outstanding; tore the Cork defence to shreds, set up Donaghy for a goal, and was fouled numerous times near goal.
    3. Limerick - Excellent performance with a limited supply of ball, 1-2 from play and several assists
    4. Down - Again a very good performance, 0-2 from play, set up Kerry's goal chances with a couple of sublime passes
    I'm sure you've guessed I'm from Kerry, but I really don't get the "Cooper's inclusion is a joke" brigade. A debatable inclusion, certainly, but one not without merit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭Pappy o' daniel


    Cooper instead of Doyle? They give allstars for diving now?
    Although in fairness his 8 or 9 rolls along the ground to get Canty sent off was the reason Kerry won anything this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Cooper instead of Doyle? They give allstars for diving now?
    Although in fairness his 8 or 9 rolls along the ground to get Canty sent off was the reason Kerry won anything this year.

    The calibre of posting on this forum has dropped embarrassingly low.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    keane2097 wrote: »
    The calibre of posting on this forum has dropped embarrassingly low.

    You should wander over to Hoganstand or Reservoir Dubs for a while, this Cork victory seems to have brought bitterness and stupidity to an all time high in the GAA. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭Browney7


    blackbelt wrote: »
    1 - A Quirke, Cork- Merited but would have put McVeigh in before Quirke.Shot stopping ability was second to none.Cluxton nightmare against Meath took him out of contendership.

    2 - P Kelly, Kildare-

    Yes although I feel there was no real standout no.2 this year.

    3 - M Shields,Cork-

    Thought Cadogan or R.O Carroll would be better options but I would say the performance against Dublin sealed this one.

    4 - P McMahon, Dublin-

    Yes.Stopped Armagh scoring a crucial goal and scored some nice points.A nice long range beauty against Tyrone in particular.

    5 - P Kissane, Cork -

    Yes.See no.2

    6 - K McKernan, Down -

    Yes but would face stiff competition from Ger Brennan for me.

    7 - E Bolton, Kildare -

    Yes.Although I would have liked to see Sligo get a bit further as John Davey could have possibly been in there on form.

    8 - P Keenan, Louth -

    Would rank his midfield partner White ahead of him and should have filled this slot.John Galvin (Limerick) would be another strong contender.

    9 - M D McAuley, Dublin -

    No doubt about it.Best find for Dublin in my opinion and was very influential with his fielding,turnovers,link up play and contributed to the scoreboard in every game.

    10 - D Hughes, Down -

    Hands down the best player for Down in the Final though Bryan Cullen and James Kavanagh would have been my choice.Would have went for Kavanagh overall as he destroyed Monaghan and Meath nearly single handedly.

    11 - M Clarke, Down

    No doubt over this one.

    12 - P Kelly, Cork

    Yes.

    13 - D Goulding, Cork

    Todays showing is probably the basis for having Goulding here.Yes but I think Mark Poland could have good cause to get the spot too.Donie Shine could have been a contender but lack of progression can kill you.

    14 - B Brogan, Dublin

    Player of the year - fact. McStay was right to shirk off any possibility of any other full forward to get this place.

    15 - C Cooper, Kerry

    Joke of a selection.I would have him as a token nomination.Think pundits are guilty at looking more favourably on past all-stars from big teams.Johnny Doyle must have had a wry smile on his face upon listening to this.I feel this was a McStay led choice.Granted Cooper didn't have a terrible season,the Munster Final must mean something to the panel but otherwise he was too tame for my liking against Down in crucial periods after the disallowed goal.Johnny Doyle to cement no.15 position.


    Other players of note: Claffey (Roscommon goalie), Ger Brennan (Dublin) , Eoghan O Gara (Dublin), David Kelly (Sligo) Eoin Mulligan (Tyrone) , Paul Kerrigan (Cork) , Ian Stephen Kelly (Limerick), Colm Judge (Louth) , Graham Reilly (Meath) Stephen Bray (Meath)

    FYP.
    Yeah Meath's lack of progression/Louth debacle will probably cost them come all star selections alright. Stephen Kelly and John Galvin would possibly have made an all star team if they had knocked out Cork but again the lack of progression will cost them.

    Bernard Brogan has to get player of the year. He dragged Dublin to an all Ireland semi practically on his own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Orizio wrote: »
    You should wander over to Hoganstand or Reservoir Dubs for a while, this Cork victory seems to have brought bitterness and stupidity to an all time high in the GAA. :(

    I only clicked on this thread because I hadn't actually seen the team RTE had picked, I'd be reluctant to subject myself to any more.

    Warm congratulations to Cork by the way. The thought of the likes of Canty and Nicholas Murphy ending their careers without AI medals was terrible - I'm delighted for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭Pappy o' daniel


    keane2097 wrote: »
    The calibre of posting on this forum has dropped embarrassingly low.

    The CCCC recended Cantys yellow card, therefore they believed it wasn't a foul and ipso facto, a dive. Who wouldn't feel embarrassed after those "Klinsmann" rolls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    Orizio wrote: »
    You should wander over to Hoganstand or Reservoir Dubs for a while, this Cork victory seems to have brought bitterness and stupidity to an all time high in the GAA. :(
    Listen sunshine, we've had to listen to your bitterness for long enough and a lot of people have genuine reasons for being "bitter" (disappointed is what we normally call it).

    Try and be a gracious winner for a change, no wonder you don't post on a lot of forums that often given your antagonistic nature in the majority of your posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭damoz


    I thought this thread was about team of the year......

    As pointless as this exercise always is, i dont know how what panel could sit there with Johnny Doyle in the studio and argue he didnt merit getting on the team. He nearly carried Kildare to an all ireland on his own. I hope he gets the All Star he deserves instead of this nonsense.


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