Tier One Tactical Recruiting (Kildare)

Foxy2010

Check out our website for more info
www.tieronetactical.webs.com


TIER ONE TACTICAL AIRSOFT TEAM.. We are a small Airsoft team based out of kildare consisting of seven members in total. Our training location itself remains classified. We model ourselves from the Tier One operators which number in the world in their low hundreds. Our dress code is a mix between U.S army woodland and Digicam. For indoor purposes though, we are using the standard black S.W.A.T uniform.

Our members can be found on facebook as well as a facebook page for the team. We look to promote the sport of Airsoft in ireland and love to skirmish as much as we can to meet new teams. There is a new enemy,there is a new war, there is a new soldier.... They are Tier One.

Puding

Foxy2010 wrote: »

Our training location itself remains classified.

and that is always a good sign :rolleyes:

anyway wrong section im afraid, should be posted over in http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055221876&page=38

r0n0c

even better when you have a look at the guy second from right
http://tieronetactical.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=97818427
:rolleyes:

JonnyTwoCombs

I can top that :eek:

Check out the T/L's Bio


http://tieronetactical.webs.com/apps/profile/63115537/

Witcher

JonnyTwoCombs wrote: »

I can top that :eek:

Check out the T/L's Bio


http://tieronetactical.webs.com/apps/profile/63115537/

Jesus...it makes me want to cry. Lads if you read this again, take that crap off the page for everyone's sake, the validity of what he's saying is highly doubtful and it's disrespectful if untrue.

Lemming

JonnyTwoCombs wrote: »

I can top that :eek:

Check out the T/L's Bio


http://tieronetactical.webs.com/apps/profile/63115537/

What about the Walter Mitty'ism about his 'experiences', am I the only one that finds the paragraph about awards and medals grossly disrespectful to those who have actually earned them?

Puding

Lemming wrote: »

What about the Walter Mitty'ism about his 'experiences', am I the only one that finds the paragraph about awards and medals grossly disrespectful to those who have actually earned them?

no your note, i know some people see stuff like this as a bit of fun, but it can have a really negative impact, people wonder why airsoft has such a bad reputation with servicemen and women at times

Lemming

Incidentally, I think these lads (and girl) might want to actually check what the term 'Tier one' actually refers to, instead of swallowing a term used in a computer game whole, sans question ....

[edit: removed; unneccesary as the bit about medals & awards is more than enough of a point]

NakedDex

Wow. Just... wow...

eadyzrx

Lads get over yourselves the lads and girl from Tier One are havin a bit of fun its what airsoft is about or have you forgotten that its just a game we play. Now do me a favor and grow up.
grossly disrespectful me hole

Witcher

eadyzrx wrote: »

Lads get over yourselves the lads and girl from Tier One are havin a bit of fun its what airsoft is about or have you forgotten that its just a game we play. Now do me a favor and grow up.
grossly disrespectful me hole

He is taking credit for engagements in which legitimate soldiers were KILLED. There is nothing more disrespectful to any airsofter who respects those people for doing a job we would not, so imagine the fury of soldiers and families who have lost comrades and relatives.

We "play a game" they play with their lives, realise that and you will understand.

Lemming

Blay wrote: »

imagine the fury of soldiers and families who have lost comrades and relatives.

From my conversations with friends (and others) who either are currently serving, or ex-forces, "Fury" would be the wrong word I'd use Blay; "Contempt" would regrettably be more appropriate. Some folks view airsoft in contempt without the added controversy over uniforms, emblems, or citations.

eadyzrx wrote: »

Lads get over yourselves the lads and girl from Tier One are havin a bit of fun its what airsoft is about or have you forgotten that its just a game we play. Now do me a favor and grow up.
grossly disrespectful me hole

Airsoft is indeed a bit of fun, and we would all do well to remember that. We all may cite particular units, or wars, or pictures therein, or accounts/films/books as being inspiration for loadout x,y, or z and there have indeed been many debates over whether or not airsofters have the right to wear the uniforms or emblems of units without first having earned them. But never have I seen airsofters claim they have awards for which many who have actually earned them have died in the line of duty.

To claim such awards IS grossly disrespectful of those very same men, women, & units that we claim inspire us.

ED E

Hope you get sued by HBO for copyright infringement.

eadyzrx

As someone who has served, I see no harm in lads / kids making up bio's as long as they dont try to pass themselves off as the real deal from what I can see to them (tier one)its just part of the game with no disrespect intended. To be honest I get more fed up with the uniform thing

Witcher

eadyzrx wrote: »

As someone who has served, I see no harm in lads / kids making up bio's as long as they dont try to pass themselves off as the real deal from what I can see to them (tier one)its just part of the game with no disrespect intended. To be honest I get more fed up with the uniform thing

He's claiming he won medals that he didnt, whatever about saying "I was in Desert Storm" saying "I was in Desert Storm and won x and y award" is just beyond belief and he also shows no indication he's only messing around so he possibly spouts that tripe around.

swiftblade

eadyzrx wrote: »

As someone who has served, I see no harm in lads / kids making up bio's as long as they dont try to pass themselves off as the real deal from what I can see to them (tier one)its just part of the game with no disrespect intended. To be honest I get more fed up with the uniform thing

As someone who hasn't served i still find it pretty offensive. I can deal with people wearing patches they didn't earn (don't agree with it) but this really does take the biscuit.

NakedDex

Here's the deal with airsoft. You get a gun to shoot with, and camo to conceal with.
Some, myself included, go for themed loadouts, based on units, conflicts or eras using appropriate patches or insignia, and modifications. Those of us who are truly anal about meticulously researching said loadout to keep it true to reality (again, myself included), often go to ridiculous lengths to find the exact part or missing piece to complete it's authenticity.

It's an emulation of the unit. What's displayed on that site is an outright trawl of history books of conflicts for the last ten years, and a pick-and-mix of high ranking medals, all for personal glory.


I have a very specific US Army loadout. Some of you here have seen it at Salute or games (when I could still get out for a game...). It's based on a specific unit, in a specific battalion, in the 10th Mountain division. It's taken a lot of time, research and money to get right.
I have never once claimed to be have served with that unit, in any associated unit, or in any campaign. I certainly have never been so bold as to have included medal listings. To do so would be disrespectful to those who earned them.

evilrobotshane

The difference between putting a costume together that emulates a particular unit, and having a character with a Tom Clancy-esque background like these guys, seems pretty small to me. If to me, then presumably to at least some others too, including these guys. I imagine they just see themselves as doing what lots of other airsofters are doing - dressing up.

Either way, it's American medals they're talking about. Whether or not one holds the real medal-winners in respect is a matter of personal choice. There's a whole lot of offendedness happening here from people who aren't American and aren't military.

Some people like airsoft because it lets them feel some connection with armed forces or whatever; some because it's a good game; most I would imagine fall somewhere in the middle of that spectrum. But we're not a military tribute society and we owe no respect we don't want to on an individual basis.

That said, on an emotive level this does all seem fairly creepy to me. But only a bit moreso than emulating a real military through costume, and I can't rationally justify either reaction so I won't try, and I won't argue against what they're doing, just steer clear of it myself.

swiftblade

I don't care about claiming to be a certain unit. It's what these medals stand for . "Purple Heart" ? Why would you want to claim you lost a limb or were injured? Wether it be US military or Irish.


As with most things "Each to their own" and all that.

NakedDex

The way I've always seen the varying loadouts of airsoft are emulation (themed loadouts, based on real military/LE units or those from movies/books/games), creation (scratch-designed loadouts, usually applicable to airsoft teams) and experienced invention (those loadouts of no theme, but are tailored to airsoft tactics specifically).

Whatever about playing in a uniform, the issue most people seem to have is the selective historical plagiarism of experience earned by others.
Being American medals doesn't mean the holders don't deserve the respect of people from beyond those borders. I'd respect any medal holder, in any capacity. The nation in which the medal was earned does not lessen the experience, dedication or even heroism that would have been required to earn it.

evilrobotshane

I expect all this could be happily resolved by prepending "My character is" to each bio.

Puding

have to agree that there is a very fine line with these matters

I've had long conversation about this with reannactors to servicing military, and tbh opinion is very much divided on the subject of modern military and airsoft.

In my eyes taking credit for actions and medals ( even in jest ) is over the line. I use a lot of real world references in my airsoft hobby, in my eyes that is part of the hobby. But it is always done with respect and knowledge of the subject. If your going to do something then do it correctly, but i have never pretended to be in the military in any context.

I for one have a massive problem with people using any patchs that they have not earned, it may not seen like much and it may seem over dramatic, but people really do put blood and tears into earning them and people do die for them and what they stand for.

I will not tell someone they can not wear them but i always try and explain to people why they should not wear then and leave the choice with them. I will not tell airsoft they can not come up with there own back story and bios to 'have fun' but do expect people to pull them on it.

Grabbing what you want from games and what you want from the real world that is not even half accurate and throwing in silly bios is just asking for trouble. Look airsoft is a controversial hobbies you have to be clued in and have an eye on the bigger picture.

Being American medals doesn't mean the holders don't deserve the respect of people from beyond those borders. I'd respect any medal holder, in any capacity. The nation in which the medal was earned does not lessen the experience, dedication or even heroism that would have been required to earn it.

could not agree more, does not matter about nationality or period it is all still valid and should all be treated with respect

NakedDex

Probably. Doing so would change it from claiming that all this was done for real, into a LARP style situation.

LARP, however, isn't my sort of thing, so I'm not sure how that works with those who actually run with it.

evilrobotshane

I think it's just a narrowing of the focus from being a generic member of a particular unit to being a specific (fictional) one.

My understanding of reenactment is that participants often emulate a specific fictional dude. I expect it's rarely as grandiose as this, because you'd get laughed out of the park for declaring your character is an age of sail John Matrix, but I don't think it's considered disrespectful to people who really slogged through the American War of Northern Aggression, or what have you.

By the way, I should clarify my stance on respect here, in case I came across as a prick (although I still might as a result). I didn't mean that foreigners who do bad-ass stuff aren't deserving of respect, be they Navy SEALS, Taliban or bank robbers, just that nobody should be obliged to respect anyone. If one chooses to respect medal-winners based on the medal-winning alone, more power to them. If one chooses not to because one hasn't met them, more power to them also. Also not granting respect isn't the same as disrespect, of course.

jeawan

Blay wrote: »

He's claiming he won medals that he didnt, whatever about saying "I was in Desert Storm" saying "I was in Desert Storm and won x and y award" is just beyond belief and he also shows no indication he's only messing around so he possibly spouts that tripe around.

Have a read at all there Bio's they all same the same thing , again i wear i British uniform but that is as far as i go never wear a badge you don't earn.

The_ChiefDUB

Damn - the page is down - I was dying to see what kind of craziness all this is.

swiftblade

Not sure about here but i know in America you can serve a jail term for claiming to be a member of the armed forces.

Foxy2010

Take a chill pill lads geeze

We are an airsoft team, named BEFORE the game trailers etc were released may I add.

We only out of fun made up stories as a bio and no DISRESPECT was or is intended.

If you joined our site you could access all areas where you would see we do not disrespect anyone nor was their any malice intended.

Leftyflip

Nice save Foxy...

Nah not really. To be honest it owuld be in your team's absolute BEST interest to remove that bio...

johnny.m.

im team leader of Tier One Airsoft team. Those Bio`s have never been made up to represent anyone who may have been in the armed forces from any corner of the world. They were added as a bit of fun. Now, obviously FUN in airsoft has changed to a totally different direction in Airsoft over the last while. there is a lot of guys military and ex miltary who for some reason when playing think its war!!! ITS NOT. some people take the fun from it. No disrespect was ever intended nor would it be. as regards patches and uniforms, should we or should we not wear them? the answer remains with the person who buys them.
dO THEY think its morally incorrect to buy them? only they can answer.

Take for example the AK-47 do we take that weapon out of airsoft because it shows the injustice of the many men and women military or otherwise who have died while it was in the hands of terrorists? is there no disrespect in using that weapon in airsoft? These Bios that people who have nothing better to do with their time but to complain about them have now been taken down. Maybe now they can go find something else to complain about.

Leftyflip

Lad, you're taking the piss right?
When it comes down to it, claiming you've won those awards, when I doubt you've absolutely any military experience at all, is just wrong. Men and women gave their lives and have been injured in conflicts, service men and women actually did something to deserve those awards. Get your head out of your hole and have a bit of respect.

johnny.m.

lefty if you actually stopped pissing and moaning for two minutes about respect and more the Bio`s have been removed from the site and not out of respect for the fallen, they chose that path but they were removed because people like you are a headache. its people like you who take the fun out of airsoft. i bet your the type of guy who sits in a room trying to come up with formulas to win your next skirmish. Get a life kid its a bit of fun and we had never in any way shape or form claimed we were members of any unit in real life. If you must know im a computer engineer with no military background as with most of the team.

swiftblade

What scares me is you don't see anything wrong with it. At the end of the day we are playing soldiers, but we are playing. Not claiming to actully be these people.

It dosent look great for you or your team. Im not bashing you as we all try to have a certain ammount of realism in airsoft but you need to know when to stop.

Puding

i find it ironic the people pointing out the issue with this behaviour are some of the most active airsofters in ireland as far from chairsofters as you can get and some of the most traveled, and some of the most active in the airsoft community in trying to push airsoft forward, know you can take from that what you want

i'm perfectly happy being classed as a 'headache' if it means the material is removed

johnny.m.

you still have not answered the question about the ak-47 should it be banned for showing disrespect to the fallen? its the favored weapon of any terrorist unit. many men british american canadian you name have died from this weapon. you claim i disrespected these people what about the others who come in many forms of disrespect?

Firekitten

johnny.m. wrote: »

im team leader of Tier One Airsoft team. Those Bio`s have never been made up to represent anyone who may have been in the armed forces from any corner of the world. They were added as a bit of fun. Now, obviously FUN in airsoft has changed to a totally different direction in Airsoft over the last while. there is a lot of guys military and ex miltary who for some reason when playing think its war!!! ITS NOT. some people take the fun from it. No disrespect was ever intended nor would it be. as regards patches and uniforms, should we or should we not wear them? the answer remains with the person who buys them.
dO THEY think its morally incorrect to buy them? only they can answer.

Take for example the AK-47 do we take that weapon out of airsoft because it shows the injustice of the many men and women military or otherwise who have died while it was in the hands of terrorists? is there no disrespect in using that weapon in airsoft? These Bios that people who have nothing better to do with their time but to complain about them have now been taken down. Maybe now they can go find something else to complain about.

Well, this was interesting to read. I love how you think airsoft 'fun' has changed, because i don't really remember a time where walting it up as rambo's medal cabinet was the kosher thing to do. Joke or not, (And that seems a weak get out frankly) Those biographies are hugely offensive and just appear utterly childish. I've never known another airsoft team to have 'character' biographies for themselves.

Now you were doing fine with the first paragraph, it almost worked. But your second paragraph took away any vague sense of belief i had.

Take the ak47 out of airsoft, because terrorists use it...

How about the uzi? they were used in munich
The mp5? the m16? the g3? Nearly any weapon you can name has been used by a terrorist at some point, that's a weak excuse.

lefty if you actually stopped pissing and moaning for two minutes about respect and more the Bio`s have been removed from the site and not out of respect for the fallen, they chose that path but they were removed because people like you are a headache. its people like you who take the fun out of airsoft. i bet your the type of guy who sits in a room trying to come up with formulas to win your next skirmish. Get a life kid its a bit of fun and we had never in any way shape or form claimed we were members of any unit in real life. If you must know im a computer engineer with no military background as with most of the team.

Oh, we can tell you have no military background, that much is painfully clear.

Leave lefty alone, your anger here is unjustified, and his responses have been entirely fair.

Now i was quite miffed with the whole deal, but what has really gotten my goat, is your last comment here.
The fallen don't deserve sympathy or respect, because they chose to serve? (paraphrased) Honey, that was game set and match.
You claim to have not mislead anyone, but im afraid your site never disclaimed the biographies as 'fiction', thus leaving the reader to accept it as fact and truth. Your walty little 'quotes' made me laugh, and Ive been inches away from Posting your site link to the Army Rumour Service forum, where you would be royally bent over and given a 12 inch birthday present via DSL. The only reason I haven't, is that airsoft already has a bad enough reputation amongst the military, at least in the UK. For serving and ex forces, regular or reserve, airsoft has been a 'dirty little secret' not shared with friends and colleagues for fear of the response. I KNOW the reputation, and if it wasn't for that, I'd have allowed them to have a giggle at the pathetic biographies.

As an ex British Army reserve officer, I'm disgusted by your attitude towards the forces, and those that serve in combat zones so you can still wack off to hamster porn in front of your massive games computer. If it was a 'little joke' it was in supremely bad taste, and scores a big fat 10 on the Walter Mitty Scale of walthood. You do airsoft a diservice, and your removal of the biographies was the first smart thing you've done with regards to this. Now I do ask you to think before responding in this topic, before you damage your teams name any further.

As for not being now or ever a serving member of the military? yeah, your team's photographs made that painfully obvious.

swiftblade

Its no more of a "terrorist" weapon than the Glock is. Should the Glock be banned because every ganster in Ireland uses it? No.

Your claiming to have medals. Medals which stand for something. The AK 47 is a a piece of kit. It does not stand for anything.

Puding

johnny.m. wrote: »

you still have not answered the question about the ak-47 should it be banned for showing disrespect to the fallen? its the favored weapon of any terrorist unit. many men british american canadian you name have died from this weapon. you claim i disrespected these people what about the others who come in many forms of disrespect?

i agree fully, it Does not matter on the type of replica, the real steel versions of all replicas have killed and there are arguments that the simple use of a replica firearms is a step to far and i can see the point, ive been on the receiving end of arguments from victims of gun crime that argue that airsof with replicas have no place.

Just because one area of the hobby is contentious does not give you free rain to just carry on into other areas on offence, tbh we get away with the use of replicas because we deliberately limit are infringement into other areas that can cause offence.

Airsoft in not photogenic it is not mainstream and it is easy for people to level criticism, as previously stated we get away with replicas because were careful of how the hobby is played so that it does not just compound the issue.

Lemming

johnny.m. wrote: »

its a bit of fun and we had never in any way shape or form claimed we were members of any unit in real life.

That's the problem with the internet. It's text on a screen with no inflections or subtleties of facial expression or body lanaugage to imply that you perhaps aren't being serious about what you say. As such, nobody else is any the wiser as to your intentions unless you say so.

True story. Valuable lesson.

I don't think you've been wandering the length and breadth of Kildare proclaiming yourselves winners of medals or the like, but I do think that what you did reflects poorly on airsoft in quarters that are at best overly cautious towards us, and was very ill thought out. Anyway, you've removed the bios and perhaps all of this will give you pause for thought on how you move forward as a team from here on out.

johnny.m.

Firekitten wrote: »

Well, this was interesting to read. I love how you think airsoft 'fun' has changed, because i don't really remember a time where walting it up as rambo's medal cabinet was the kosher thing to do. Joke or not, (And that seems a weak get out frankly) Those biographies are hugely offensive and just appear utterly childish. I've never known another airsoft team to have 'character' biographies for themselves.



Now you were doing fine with the first paragraph, it almost worked. But your second paragraph took away any vague sense of belief i had.



Take the ak47 out of airsoft, because terrorists use it...



How about the uzi? they were used in munich

The mp5? the m16? the g3? Nearly any weapon you can name has been used by a terrorist at some point, that's a weak excuse.

you want to go report our team to whoever thats your own choice. Get off the high horse your on and come back down to earth. My point is people are taking what was a bit of fun for others and turning into something its not. My apology was in the removal of all the bios if thats not good enough please complain to someone who is gonna listen.

The team itself is not looking for anyone`s approval never have and never will. When we skirmish (and not go to war!!!) we play the game with honor we take our hits we respawn we die (respawn being the key word here) . We dont play to win or claim to be the best. We play for fun and as i have already said in a previous post no disrespect was ever intended towards anybody in those Bio`s. Try not to sound too much up your own ass the next post as it doesnt do you any favours.

swiftblade

johnny.m. wrote: »

you want to go report our team to whoever thats your own choice. Get off the high horse your on and come back down to earth. My point is people are taking what was a bit of fun for others and turning into something its not. My apology was in the removal of all the bios if thats not good enough please complain to someone who is gonna listen.

The team itself is not looking for anyone`s approval never have and never will. When we skirmish (and not go to war!!!) we play the game with honor we take our hits we respawn we die (respawn being the key word here) . We dont play to win or claim to be the best. We play for fun and as i have already said in a previous post no disrespect was ever intended towards anybody in those Bio`s. Try not to sound too much up your own ass the next post as it doesnt do you any favours.

If you were playing for fun why did you feel the need to create those "bios" ? Im glad to hear you play airsoft with honour but maybe you should step back and see where we are coming from.

We are advising you for your benifit. Some people would not be very happy with what you said and could land you in a lot of trouble.

johnny.m.

swiftblade wrote: »

If you were playing for fun why did you feel the need to create those "bios" ? Im glad to hear you play airsoft with honour but maybe you should step back and see where we are coming from.

We are advising you for your benifit. Some people would not be very happy with what you said and could land you in a lot of trouble.

you have advised what was said swiftblade but many are not. A lot of people on here ridicule and run others into the ground. The feedback given about the Bio`s has been noted and have been removed i cant stress that enough. Any other time peoples opinions have never mattered and obviously people feel sensitive about the issue and they have been removed. My benefit is no concern to others. As yours would be no concern of mine. If you got hit with a bus in the morning i wouldnt know would i? I dont need to take a step back i already have, by again, may i say, removing the Bio`s but obviously its a subject that people just want to continue on complaining about.

Dogwatch

johnny.m. wrote: »

lefty if you actually stopped pissing and moaning for two minutes about respect and more the Bio`s have been removed from the site and not out of respect for the fallen, they chose that path but they were removed because people like you are a headache. its people like you who take the fun out of airsoft. i bet your the type of guy who sits in a room trying to come up with formulas to win your next skirmish. Get a life kid its a bit of fun and we had never in any way shape or form claimed we were members of any unit in real life. If you must know im a computer engineer with no military background as with most of the team.

As a former member of the military I would like to thank you for removing the material from your website.

I did find it offensive and churlish to say the least.

It may have been a bit of fun for you but others find it otherwise.

Please dont compund you error by trying to justify it or deflect attention from it.

You have carried out one honourable act, please continue to act honorably as this is an honorable sport.

Your rant above is akin to bullying or shouting the loudest.

An apology to the sport of airsoft would be a better place to start. We all make errors but please have the good grace to accept that you got it wrong on this ocassion

Lemming

johnny.m. wrote: »

The team itself is not looking for anyone`s approval never have and never will.

We play for fun and as i have already said in a previous post no disrespect was ever intended towards anybody in those Bio`s. Try not to sound too much up your own ass the next post as it doesnt do you any favours.

Johnny, I would suggest that rather than throw abuse at FireKitten, that you perhaps pause and consider what she's just said. You've been given a taster of how more than some of those whom we claim to emulate view us as airsofters - and that's without the added controversy of things like medals, badges, patches etc.

You say you aren't looking anyone's approval. Most people aren't, but we should show consideration to others and not blatantly wave two fingers in their faces. I for one am appreciative of the fact that airsofters are allowed the use of UK MoD facilities for events on occasion (the Irish DoD has to date not entertained us much at all) , and I would long hope that continues. In short, don't bite the proverbial hand that feeds you that juicy big steak every couple of months ...

Firekitten

johnny.m. wrote: »

you want to go report our team to whoever thats your own choice. Get off the high horse your on and come back down to earth. My point is people are taking what was a bit of fun for others and turning into something its not. My apology was in the removal of all the bios if thats not good enough please complain to someone who is gonna listen.

The team itself is not looking for anyone`s approval never have and never will. When we skirmish (and not go to war!!!) we play the game with honor we take our hits we respawn we die (respawn being the key word here) . We dont play to win or claim to be the best. We play for fun and as i have already said in a previous post no disrespect was ever intended towards anybody in those Bio`s. Try not to sound too much up your own ass the next post as it doesnt do you any favours.

Aw sweetie... you really don't get it do you?

you intended no disrespect, but you caused it.
you didn't intend people to believe your biographies, but you made no note that they were fiction.

the key theme here seems to be thinking... and your lack of it. You still aren't, and its making you look bad.

High horse? up my own arse? If I were your teammates, I'd be persuading you to get off the internet, and try to repair the damage that my captain was making.
If you had replied politely, and explained it was fiction, humour, and in error and apologized, you might have actually recruited someone... as per the aim of the topic, but now, the only thing you're attracting is bad opinions.

johnny.m.

Dogwatch wrote: »

As a former member of the military I would like to thank you for removing the material from your website.

I did find it offensive and churlish to say the least.

It may have been a bit of fun for you but others find it otherwise.

Please dont compund you error by trying to justify it or deflect attention from it.

You have carried out one honourable act, please continue to act honorably as this is an honorable sport.

Your rant above is akin to bullying or shouting the loudest.

An apology to the sport of airsoft would be a better place to start. We all make errors but please have the good grace to accept that you got it wrong on this ocassion

I dont deflect from nothing my friend. I dont need to make an apology to anybody military or not. my apology was in the removal of all Bio`s on the site. "My rant above" as you call it is text. it can not be seen as bullying or felt unless that person feels that. Im not in my livingroom screaming the letters onto the screen im typing just like you. Also, as you are former military and have thanked me for removing the bios let me say your welcome.

swiftblade

I think this should be put to rest. He has a choice to believe what he wants. We can only advise him.

He has deleted the offensive material and i think we should leave it at that.

*grabs coat*

johnny.m.

Firekitten wrote: »

Aw sweetie... you really don't get it do you?

you intended no disrespect, but you caused it.
you didn't intend people to believe your biographies, but you made no note that they were fiction.

the key theme here seems to be thinking... and your lack of it. You still aren't, and its making you look bad.

High horse? up my own arse? If I were your teammates, I'd be persuading you to get off the internet, and try to repair the damage that my captain was making.
If you had replied politely, and explained it was fiction, humour, and in error and apologized, you might have actually recruited someone... as per the aim of the topic, but now, the only thing you're attracting is bad opinions.

Again, I will say this to you. The Bio`s have been removed. Any disrespect shown was not intentional or otherwise. My apology was the removal of the bio and like you, and everbody on this planet i dont need to apologise to anybody on boards.ie for whatever reason. A big deal was made from this. The removal has been done after that i dont know what more can be done firekitten.

NakedDex

For the record. An AK47 isn't a "terrorist weapon", it's a rifle. A "terrorist weapon" is any device held by a terrorist with intent to cause harm or damage, be that a crowbar, rifle, RPG or even a video camera. It can be a toothbrush if the scenario lends itself to such a loose definition.

An AK47 is a rifle. Ergo the bearer of said device instills within it the operational category into which it falls through action and/or forethought, not the popular misconceived reputation that has preceeded the device. Were it vice-versa, a contractor using an AK of any variety would technically be a terrorist, as would the majority of eastern European national armies.

Quid Erat Demonstrandum.




IBTL

eadyzrx

Jazus lads and lady can you all just shut up. Time to close this.

Remember its just a game.

FingalAirsoft

Move along now.... nothing to see here:cool::pac::pac::pac: