Bohemian Rhapsody (Freddie Mercury Biopic)

boosabum

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

As has been previously stated the 1984/85 Works album and the following tour was what really relaunched Queen`s career. The movie just ignores this.

exactly, the "rock in rio" vhs came from this tour which was only 6 months or so before Live Aid

S.M.B.

I find it really odd that they would be so meticulous in recreating the Live Aid sequence when you could just watch the original performance yet they chose to deviate so often from real life events throughout the rest of the movie. It just makes little sense to me.

And while dramatic license is commonly found in most biopics/any true life adaptations, to me it's an issue when it just comes across as extremely convoluted and clear as day that events didn't unfold this way. I am no Queen fan and only have a vague recollection of the events when they happened but I could see from a mile what was factual and what wasn't.

Coming out of the movie I could visualise a timeline etched on a whiteboard with all the beats and plot points.

The masses seem to be enjoying this movie so we'll see more of the same going forward. Next up: Rocketman. I'm assuming with Dexter Fletcher on board from day 1 this will be more of the same.

Steve F

S.M.B. wrote: »

I find it really odd that they would be so meticulous in recreating the Live Aid sequence when you could just watch the original performance yet they chose to deviate so often from real life events throughout the rest of the movie. It just makes little sense to me.

And while dramatic license is commonly found in most biopics/any true life adaptations, to me it's an issue when it just comes across as extremely convoluted and clear as day that events didn't unfold this way. I am no Queen fan and only have a vague recollection of the events when they happened but I could see from a mile what was factual and what wasn't.

Coming out of the movie I could visualise a timeline etched on a whiteboard with all the beats and plot points.

The masses seem to be enjoying this movie so we'll see more of the same going forward. Next up: Rocketman. I'm assuming with Dexter Fletcher on board from day 1 this will be more of the same.

Nope,next up is Stan and Ollie in January
I'm a big L&H fan but I think I detected a couple of red flags just from the trailer

John Sacrimoni

Just back from seeing this film, i had low expectations going in but i loved it. I was tearing up at the end, and had shivers throughout the whole Live Aid performance.

Closest thing ill ever get to seeing Queen live. Amazing.

PTH2009

http://loudwire.com/queen-adam-lambert-2019-rhapsody-tour-dates/

Might as well keep the gravy train rolling

Expect this 'Rhapsody tour' to hit Europe at some point in the future

Having seen this line-up twice it's going to be Interesting to see how they can change it up from the last tour. My guess is not much as they played all the big hits with a massive production

IamMetaldave

Went to see this last night and enjoyed the s**t out of it.. even with the amount of "artistic licence" taken with it.. few goosebumps moments too with a big smile on my face and my gf was the same, she's a bigger a Queen fan than myself.

JP Liz V1

https://ew.com/movies/2018/12/14/bohemian-rhapsody-highest-grossing-biopic-box-office/

Well did not expect that but Queen is very very popular

silverharp

another movie where the "critics" are out of step with the paying public

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/bohemian_rhapsody

HandsomeBob

silverharp wrote: »

another movie where the "critics" are out of step with the paying public

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/bohemian_rhapsody

I haven't seen the film yet but the chasm here between critic and audience doesn't surprise me. From the positive reactions I've seen here the second one of their hits comes thumping onto the screen they are hooked.

McLoughlin

I wonder will they chance their arm at a sequel the decline and death of Mercury and how May/Taylor Queen + managed to carry on without him.

HandsomeBob

McLoughlin wrote: »

I wonder will they chance their arm at a sequel the decline and death of Mercury and how May/Taylor Queen + managed to carry on without him.

Doubtful because you can tell from documentaries that were involved in that Freddie 's lifestyle really unsettled them.

They try to paint themselves as his best friends but their words betray them.

PTH2009

McLoughlin wrote: »

I wonder will they chance their arm at a sequel the decline and death of Mercury and how May/Taylor Queen + managed to carry on without him.

They might but will have too stick to the "movie" story/timeline

As we all knw by now the movie and the real life stories are different

A sequel would be interesting but completely different and much darker

w/s/p/c/

Finally seen this last night, really enjoyed it, worth seeing on the big screen for the musical performances. They really nailed the recreation of the Live Aid performance down a tee, right to the Pepsi cups on top of the piano!

As great as Malek was, would have loved to see how Sacha Baron Cohen would have played Freddie, I read that the version of the film he was linked to was a bit darker.

marklazarcovic

What a great trip down memory lane,very well made indeed.

Agent Coulson

Got to say I loved it even with all the creative licence they took with telling the story.

Malek was fantastic.

The Live Aid part was truly spine tingling and it brought back some memories of a 12 year old me sitting watching it.

branie2

I hope Malek gets the best actor Oscar

run_Forrest_run

lukin wrote: »

And the guy playing Geldof was just laughable. Geldof is probably the biggest cretin that ever existed anyway, would have been better to leave him out of the film altogether.

totally agree (about the laughable bit anyway), it cheapened things by having an awful representation of Geldof in it.

gmisk

w/s/p/c/ wrote: »

Finally seen this last night, really enjoyed it, worth seeing on the big screen for the musical performances. They really nailed the recreation of the Live Aid performance down a tee, right to the Pepsi cups on top of the piano!

As great as Malek was, would have loved to see how Sacha Baron Cohen would have played Freddie, I read that the version of the film he was linked to was a bit darker.

I thought Malek was brilliant, Ben Whishaw would have been interesting as well.

expectationlost

did they cgi alter malek's mouth to freddie singing during live aid?

Heckler

Preface: A Fan but not an uber fan of Queen. I've watched the Live Aid Queen countless times because its fantastic and I think Freddy is an out of this world frontman.

But: 5 minutes into Bohemian Rhapsody and I'm waiting for the Dracula teeth to fall out. The size of Mercurys teeth is exaggerated and makes Malek sound like an old man with dentures. Its very off putting at the moment but I'm gonna keep at it because I love everything about it. Freddie as a singer, Malek as an actor.

Heckler

Well into now. Totally absurd. But fun. Anyone whosever played in a band knows how stupid this is.

Harry Palmr

This film could just about nudge a billion dollars - phenomenal success and proof that "jukebox" musicals are now as big in cinema as they are on the stage. Bit hard to think of another act who would push the right buttons for the same treatment, as you need an emotional core and a big event as the climax. The Stones would only work with Altamont as the core event and that's hardly feel good! And many of the top acts have ended on a low with a death or lawsuits - Led Zep, Whitney Houston (there is a good film to be made there if anyone dares), The Who, Eagles, Floyd. ABBA have their own fiction franchise.

Any suggestions?

Heckler

Harry Palmr wrote: »

This film could just about nudge a billion dollars - phenomenal success and proof that "jukebox" musicals are now as big in cinema as they are on the stage. Bit hard to think of another act who would push the right buttons for the same treatment, as you need an emotional core and a big event as the climax. The Stones would only work with Altamont as the core event and that's hardly feel good! And many of the top acts have ended on a low with a death or lawsuits - Led Zep, Whitney Houston (there is a good film to be made there if anyone dares), The Who, Eagles, Floyd. ABBA have their own fiction franchise.

Any suggestions?

If ABBA ever staged a comeback it would break all records for sell out shows across the world hands down. It would be worth stupid money to them, promoters, venues etc. It would be the biggest music news story since Cobain.

And I'd gladly pay !!

PTH2009

Heckler wrote: »

If ABBA ever staged a comeback it would break all records for sell out shows across the world hands down. It would be worth stupid money to them, promoters, venues etc. It would be the biggest music news story since Cobain.

And I'd gladly pay !!

Yeah would be fairly massive. Everyone loves ABBA

The Guns N Roses reunion happend 3 years ago successfully but didn't feel as big as I thought it would in be music world.

The smiths reunion would be quite good but might never happen as Egos will get in the way

Some brilliant movies can be made from a lot of bands histories. To a name a few Fleetwood Mac, Phil Lynott, Black Sabbath/Ozzy, Nirvana/Cobain

Heckler

PTH2009 wrote: »

Yeah would be fairly massive. Everyone loves ABBA

The Guns N Roses reunion happend 3 years ago successfully but didn't feel as big as I thought it would in be music world.

The smiths reunion would be quite good but might never happen as Egos will get in the way

Some brilliant movies can be made from a lot of bands histories. To a name a few Fleetwood Mac, Phil Lynott, Black Sabbath/Ozzy, Nirvana/Cobain

Montage of heck is a good Cobain watch. I'm half way through Bohemian Rhapsody at the mo. Its a good feel good movie but a world apart from a working band in its early stages. Went from small clubs to arenas in moments. I know it has to be condensed for film. Whoever cast and plays Brian May are both genius. Da bulb offa him.

Heckler

Well done Rami Malek . A powerhouse performance. The last 20 mins were electrifing.

S.M.B.

Harry Palmr wrote: »

This film could just about nudge a billion dollars - phenomenal success and proof that "jukebox" musicals are now as big in cinema as they are on the stage. Bit hard to think of another act who would push the right buttons for the same treatment, as you need an emotional core and a big event as the climax. The Stones would only work with Altamont as the core event and that's hardly feel good! And many of the top acts have ended on a low with a death or lawsuits - Led Zep, Whitney Houston (there is a good film to be made there if anyone dares), The Who, Eagles, Floyd. ABBA have their own fiction franchise.

Any suggestions?

Think I said earlier in the thread that Rocket Man is going to be more of the same. And given the 'poetic licence' on show in Bohemian Rhapsody I think you could apply the same formula to a lot of bands. The line between a 'biopic' and a 'jukebox movie' has become a whole lot blurrier.

Queens music (not that I'm a big fan) is so iconic it may be difficult to replicate its success.

shamrock55

Am I the only one who didn't like rami malek as Freddie

darced

shamrock55 wrote: »

Am I the only one who didn't like rami malek as Freddie

Looked and sounded nothing like him, seemed way to slight. Amazed at the positive reaction to this as I thought it was hilariously bad for huge parts.

The Live Aid segment is of course well down and very enjoyable but everything before that is a mess. The whole film looked so cheap, was it done on a miniscule budget?

The hair and makeup and cringy dialogue were so bad I thought I was watching some bad BBC sketch show at times.

The White Wolf

I assume there's nothing to stop someone from doing a Freddie Mercury biopic? I'm aware there would be limitations without official Queen Productions approval but surely they couldn't stop a film focusing on Freddie's life?

McLoughlin

The White Wolf wrote: »

I assume there's nothing to stop someone from doing a Freddie Mercury biopic? I'm aware there would be limitations without official Queen Productions approval but surely they couldn't stop a film focusing on Freddie's life?

There has been some TV movies one of the big limitations is the rights to music.

NIMAN

shamrock55 wrote: »

Am I the only one who didn't like rami malek as Freddie

Another here.

I thought the film was poor enough for large sections, but improved as it went on.

Not a fan of Malek as Freddy to be honest. The voice, especially early on, was like he was trying to do a Mick Jagger impersonation. I also thought he was too small....was FM a small man? He never came across as small.

Also found the acting of that Irish guy from Downtown Abbey awful. He played Paul. Anything he does is poor. I just don't think he's a good actor.

I also followed up on how much of it was factually true, and it would appear that a huge amount of licence was taken with the film.

Overall for me, a 6/10. Probably saved by the LiveAid scene at the end.

Question, when all the songs were being performed in the film, weren't they all Freddie singing? I know in some films the actor is actually recorded signing the songs, but I closed my eyes for a few of them and they all sounded like FM.

Finally, I like a film like this to insert some real footage at times. There was none of that. Maybe there is a legal reason for it, I don't know?

shamrock55

It did have a really cheap straight to video feel about it, it covered pretty much everything without really covering anything if that makes sense, I hated the live aid crowd scenes too, the cgi was awful

The Crowman

This nearly gave me a fecking migrane. Is much of the film edited like this? I can't get over the cheap look of it too.


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The White Wolf

I'd say John Reid is only delighted that it's Richard Madden portraying him this year.. though neither seem to have made too much of an effort to get his personality down.

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Hard to articulate how I feel about this.

Thought that Malek didnt look or sound like Freddie, but more importantly, was missing his "presence". However, I almost didnt mind that, because - there can only be one Freddie.

For me the whole thing felt like it was a very rose tinted glasses view of Freddie (and Queens) story.

Everything seemed too clean, too bright, too sanitised. No grit. It was like the PG version of the story somehow.

Even the Live Aid scene - absolutely fantastic attention to detail on the stage, the costume design, the instruments, the action, the music - but the whole thing looked like it was glossy compared to how it really looked! The crowd in Wembley were too colourful, too pretty, too spaced apart. When i watch it on Youtube its grey, grungy, a bit dismal looking (as the 80s were!). This version is just too polished.

Its a pity it was the story as told by Queen, we might have gotten a more warts and all version had they not actually been involved.

I mentally compared it to Sid and Nancy with Gary Oldman - now obviously that WAS a much grittier story anyway, but it was just more realistic you know?

So, sure, i enjoyed the music, the nostalgia, but I didnt think it was amazing.

expectationlost

NIMAN wrote: »

Another here.

I thought the film was poor enough for large sections, but improved as it went on.

Not a fan of Malek as Freddy to be honest. The voice, especially early on, was like he was trying to do a Mick Jagger impersonation. I also thought he was too small....was FM a small man? He never came across as small.

FM 1.77m

RM 1.75m so not much difference, I did think Freddie Mercury was atleast 6 feet but perhaps he was just thin and goofy not particularly tall, although he may have been tall for a Persian person.

branie2

....... wrote: »

Hard to articulate how I feel about this.

Thought that Malek didnt look or sound like Freddie, but more importantly, was missing his "presence". However, I almost didnt mind that, because - there can only be one Freddie.

For me the whole thing felt like it was a very rose tinted glasses view of Freddie (and Queens) story.

Everything seemed too clean, too bright, too sanitised. No grit. It was like the PG version of the story somehow.

Even the Live Aid scene - absolutely fantastic attention to detail on the stage, the costume design, the instruments, the action, the music - but the whole thing looked like it was glossy compared to how it really looked! The crowd in Wembley were too colourful, too pretty, too spaced apart. When i watch it on Youtube its grey, grungy, a bit dismal looking (as the 80s were!). This version is just too polished.

Its a pity it was the story as told by Queen, we might have gotten a more warts and all version had they not actually been involved.

I mentally compared it to Sid and Nancy with Gary Oldman - now obviously that WAS a much grittier story anyway, but it was just more realistic you know?

So, sure, i enjoyed the music, the nostalgia, but I didnt think it was amazing.

And Gary Oldman, who was in Sid and Nancy, presented Rami Malek with the Best Actor Oscar

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branie2 wrote: »

And Gary Oldman, who was in Sid and Nancy, presented Rami Malek with the Best Actor Oscar

Great catch!!!

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expectationlost wrote: »

FM 1.77m

RM 1.75m so not much difference, I did think Freddie Mercury was atleast 6 feet but perhaps he was just thin and goofy not particularly tall, although he may have been tall for a Persian person.

I think they just had very different physicality.

Freddie was very masculine looking on stage, both in his movements and his frame, he had a great build. His proportions were such that he looked tall, whereas Rami's proportions make him look much shorter, and he isnt as well built around the chest.

Im sure if you drew out their measurements each individual one isnt too different, but the eye perceives the difference of the whole package.

jobless

this lad is a pretty good impression of freddie, he was used in the film

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=38&v=XWJloWmAqnE

boosabum

....... wrote: »

I think they just had very different physicality.

Freddie was very masculine looking on stage, both in his movements and his frame, he had a great build. His proportions were such that he looked tall, whereas Rami's proportions make him look much shorter, and he isnt as well built around the chest.

Im sure if you drew out their measurements each individual one isnt too different, but the eye perceives the difference of the whole package.

Have a look at youtube where the movie version of live aid set versus actual is done on a split screen setup.

Rami is a million miles away from Freddie's performance, so forced and when you consider all the rehearsals i guess it had whereas Freddies was an impromptu performance

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boosabum wrote: »

Have a look at youtube where the movie version of live aid set versus actual is done on a split screen setup.

Rami is a million miles away from Freddie's performance, so forced and when you consider all the rehearsals i guess it had whereas Freddies was an impromptu performance

Ill check it out.

I did watch the real live aid performance AFTER I watched the movie but a split screen would be interesting.

They definitely didnt move the same way, as I said earlier, Rami just doesnt have Freddies presence or his energy.

Again though, I kind of didnt mind that aspect of it because you never could replicate Freddie.

expectationlost

This film won the Oscar for best editing! You may have noticed the criticism of the scene with aiden gillan for both dialogue and editing, I usually ignore the criticism videos because they are usually very self indulgent but the editor actually responded https://www.slashfilm.com/bohemian-rhapsody-editing/ you can read his explanation that the WP got. To me it seems the needed a wide shot from behind Aiden Gillan, although that would have been over water.

El Duda

Watched this on Friday on 4K...

Whilst it is not without its merits and it has some good stuff in there, at times I was aghast at just how awful it was. Sycophantic beyond belief. At times it felt like an intentionally farcical parody. Malek was fine on stage but his 'behind the scenes' Freddie was off. It felt like he was taking the piss. Those dentures were shockingly bad.

Bowlardo

El Duda wrote: »

Watched this on Friday on 4K...

Whilst it is not without its merits and it has some good stuff in there, at times I was aghast at just how awful it was. Sycophantic beyond belief. At times it felt like an intentionally farcical parody. Malek was fine on stage but his 'behind the scenes' Freddie was off. It felt like he was taking the piss. Those dentures were shockingly bad.

Just watched it last night. It reminded me of that Eddie the eagle film with Hugh jackman... it was woeful

branie2

Aidan Gillen, as John Reid, looked like Charlie Haughey, another character played by him

boosabum

I guess most of the fan's have seen it at this stage, but Queen & AL played the Live Aid set for the Australian Firefighters concert and it's up on utube.

A pretty decent effort but just reinforces how magnification the original 20 something minute performance was almost 35 years ago, can never be equaled and will never be topped

Slydice

Gave this a watch. Thought it was well done. All the songs!! 🙂

Didn't think I could feel so

Spoiler Warning

sad watching the wembley performance

Queen - Under Pressure (Official Video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a01QQZyl-_I