Why Is There So Much of This These Days?

MetzgerMeister

Recently I've been seeing loads of TDI RS4s, 5 series BMWs with fake M5 bits (i.e. quad exhausts, "stick on" grilles on the front wheel arches), 1.6 mitsubishi lancers with full Evo kit and badges on them etc.

Why do people get such a kick out of faking??

KingIsabella

Look cool in front of people driving the likes of gt turbos?

djimi

Its not really a new thing tbf. I never got it myself; sticking a Type R kit on a 1.4 Civic for example would just seem very hallow to me, especially the guys who go all out with the red badges and the Type R stickers, but each to their own I guess.

Atomic Pineapple

KingIsabella wrote: »

Look cool in front of people driving the likes of gt turbos?

Only to look stupid when the gt turbo passes with ease.....?

neris

the worst is a 3 series with the M3 badges one exhaust, no side vents etc

neris

neris wrote: »

the worst is a 3 series with the M3 badges one exhaust, no side vents etc

M3 badge or M sport badges ? There is a big difference.

omega man

I love the RS4/S4 ones with the 1.9TDI badge still on If youre going do it at least take the bloody TDI badge off!

EPM

A lad I know has a car the same as mine almost but a slightly plainer spec. He's put FR badges on it, FR alloys and has even changed his 5 speed gearlever to the FR 6 speed. He's changing his bumpers next to the FR ones and getting the exhaust to suit. The fool also bought the wheels straight from a dealer and is hell bent on doing the same with the bumpers and exhaust. Reckon not a lot of change from €3k for this crap.

What I do like however is people in the real deal making their cars look like the usual run of the mill versions, e.g. M5 with a 520d badge:pac:

L-M

I've absolutely no problem and at all with kits, or even someone 100% replicating a Type R/GTI/M5 etc. etc. as long as they don't put on the badge.

langdang

Twas fairly easy during the seltic tiger to have more money than class, we're still enduring the fall out.

Mr Magners

I passed a Ford Focus on the M7 last week with a Type R badge stuck to the back of it.

:eek:

L-M

Mr Magners wrote: »

I passed a Ford Focus on the M7 last week with a Type R badge stuck to the back of it.

:eek:

If it was a 02 ish I've a picture of it somewhere.

Edit:

MetzgerMeister

EPM wrote: »

What I do like however is people in the real deal making their cars look like the usual run of the mill versions, e.g. M5 with a 520d badge:pac:

520D with quad exhausts

mailforkev

Mr Magners wrote: »

I passed a Ford Focus on the M7 last week with a Type R badge stuck to the back of it.:eek:

I saw a Citroen C4 "V6" in Dunnes Stores carpark the other day.

Some people are idiots and shouldn't be allowed to own a car.

Matt Simis

Limerick man wrote: »

I've absolutely no problem and at all with kits, or even someone 100% replicating a Type R/GTI/M5 etc. etc. as long as they don't put on the badge.

I agree with the above. The look is fine (and Ive borrowed from the OEM Plus bin before), but the lying about it is not.
If I was buying a car with the wrong badge on it, I would insist it be taken off before I drove off with it.

Its the lamest thing a lame driver can do.

SnowSurfer

They dont like to admit to the ladies that they can't afford the real thing?

MetzgerMeister

Matt Simis wrote: »

I agree with the above. The look is fine (and Ive borrowed from the OEM Plus bin before), but the lying about it is not.
If I was buying a car with the wrong badge on it, I would insist it be taken off before I drove off with it.

Its the lamest thing a lame driver can do.

This is moreso what I was getting at rather than the idea of kitting up a car.

i.e. I like the idea of putting an Mtech kit on a 3 series and the "///M" badge on it to signify there's M kit on it. What I hate is when the ///M3 badge is put on.

Voodoomelon

I don't think i've ever seen a standard 3 or 5 with an M3 or M5 badge on it.

I've no real problem with people adding something like exhaust tips or a new front diffuser, small touches add to a car. Anything else and it typically becomes a mongrel.

Velocitee

Mr Magners wrote: »

I passed a Ford Focus on the M7 last week with a Type R badge stuck to the back of it.

:eek:

Was in Blackpool shopping centre in Cork and saw a bog standard 99 Octavia with bling alloys, chrome (obviously stuck on) a Type R and "M" badge and a big NISMO vinyl on his rear bumper! he was looking right at me so couldn't take a pic!

Looked like he bought out a car accessory shop...

Voodoomelon

Voodoomelon wrote: »

I don't think i've ever seen a standard 3 or 5 with an M3 or M5 badge on it.

+1, myth of boards me thinks.

EPM

RoverJames wrote: »

+1, myth of boards me thinks.

I must be imagining things as I have certainly seen a few. Even saw one with hubcaps. Usually compliments the chrome tape on the doors, the windows, the bootlid, the grills and who can let out the chrome ariel too:D

kildare.17hmr

RoverJames wrote: »

+1, myth of boards me thinks.

Was a few of them knockin around kildare for ages, also a young lad with a 95 M3 evo with 320i on the back!

neris

RoverJames wrote: »

M3 badge or M sport badges ? There is a big difference.

M3 badges.

Bing_IRL

I love coming across them on the roads. Particularly the Honda "Type R's". It's great fun listening to all the noise when they try to get back up to speed while holding with them in a diesel

Viper_JB

I like to think of it as of being a warning sign, give them plenty of space on the road and don't get involved in a conversation with them.

MetzgerMeister

RoverJames wrote: »

+1, myth of boards me thinks.

There's one in my town - a silver 3 series with the stick on vents on the arches, lip spoiler, replica mtech alloys, naff front bumper, m3 badge on the bootlid.

No power bulge in the bonnet

EDIT: James, 5 more posts and you have 2 Rovers in your post count!

Tea 1000

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Was a few of them knockin around kildare for ages, also a young lad with a 95 M3 evo with 320i on the back!

Evo didn't come out till around 97. "Standard" 3 litre M3 it would have been in 95, with "only" 286bhp.
I've seen very few M5 or M3 badged cars compared to the RS4 brigade out there, more often than not with the 1.9 TDi badge still on. Muppets. They think they're really driving the dogs bolix of a car. Cats anus more like.

Cookie_Monster

EPM wrote: »

A lad I know has a car the same as mine almost but a slightly plainer spec. He's put FR badges on it, FR alloys and has even changed his 5 speed gearlever to the FR 6 speed. He's changing his bumpers next to the FR ones and getting the exhaust to suit.

he got it done up in a load of Ryaniar spec, heavens why?

E39MSport

I like this: -


Hey Matt, I'm sure the irony of your sans badge M8 hasn't passed you by here ......

subway

Voodoomelon wrote: »

I don't think i've ever seen a standard 3 or 5 with an M3 or M5 badge on it.

http://www.adverts.ie/282540/cars/bmw-520-m/

subway

E39MSport wrote: »

Hey Matt, I'm sure the irony of your sans badge M8 hasn't passed you by here ......

ahh, dont start him on that again!

paddycam

I also seen people put 1.9tdi badges on there rs4

kildare.17hmr

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Evo didn't come out till around 97. "Standard" 3 litre M3 it would have been in 95, with "only" 286bhp.
I've seen very few M5 or M3 badged cars compared to the RS4 brigade out there, more often than not with the 1.9 TDi badge still on. Muppets. They think they're really driving the dogs bolix of a car. Cats anus more like.

To be fair to the guy it was actually a 328i with the engine replaced so could well have been an evo

RandomAccess

A few years back this was fairly rare but these days RS4's outnumber TDi's 4:1, so anyway I was on the phone and standing near a Golf R32, saw fella get in so I was relishing the start up.. 3.2 v6 lucky me.

Then TuKKA TuKKA TuKKA .... Diesel! WTF!!

daveharnett

einheisserschre wrote: »

Why do people get such a kick out of faking??

This. We're talking about idiots here. Being quite stupid themselves, they assume other people will be stupid enough to believe their badges and give them mad props.

What I don't understand is why the manufacturers support this by selling badges to members of the public without the corresponding cars. Surely all of these 'fake' badges are damaging the badge value of the real McCoy?

Lets say your fund management/merchant banking/fas directorship has gone well of late, and you want to let the world know. Why on earth would you spend the better part of a hundred grand on a badge when the unwashed masses will assume you got it for a tenner around the back in the parts department?

Is it as simple as being content to take the €20 (or whatever) for the price of the badge rather than let it go to a chinese badge maker on ebay?

kirving

The best one I've seen was a Toyota MR2 converted to a Ferrari F430. Saw it a few hundred yards away, and was waiting for the noise, but it never came...

It stopped at the pedestrian lights i was waiting at, and I saw the guy driving it was wearing a Ferrari shirt, and cap. I doubt the blonde in the passenger seat realised she was in a toyota

Anan1

Limerick man wrote: »

I've absolutely no problem and at all with kits, or even someone 100% replicating a Type R/GTI/M5 etc. etc. as long as they don't put on the badge.

TBH, I don't see any fundamental difference - both involve people spending money for that 'look at me, aren't I cool' effect. The driver of a 5 series with a factory M Pack is motivated by exactly the same desires that put furry dice & foglights on Micras, the difference between the two being IMO purely a matter of taste.

fryup

faking> its just harmless fun, they're young

let them have their fantasy

Shane732

In fairness you see very few M3/5 badges on a standard M-Sport BMW. I know someone linked a 520 with a M5 badge on it but it's a rarity.

What you may see is people with a M badge on an M-Sport car or maybe an M badge on a SE/ES model.

I drive a M-Sport model, which came with a M badge on it (not a M3 badge). One day I came back to it in a car park and some idiot had written "not a real M3" on the back of it. Too fu*king right it's not a M3 - I'd made no attempt to make it look like a M3 at all!!!! If I could find that person I'd love to give him a lesson about the differences between a M3 and M-Sport and then take the piss out of whatever piece of sh*t he's driving.

Ever notice that most people who have a problem with M-Sport BMW's etc... are people who can't afford them.

Berty

I believe this picture is enough for the thread to be closed.

Voodoomelon

Those exhaust tips, ha ha! He should have stuck them on the boot for the craic.

Berty

See the rear drivers side alloy. Now that IS PIMP! Only a true "Felter" could do that!

Voodoomelon

Is that not a photoshop swirl? Or do you mean the painted drum?

Berty

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Is that not a photoshop swirl? Or do you mean the painted drum?

Its the swirl. I did it by accident but I dont have the original photo anymore and cant be assed trying to fix it.

dylbert

Ha ha, the flames under the door handles are the wrong way round.

Berty

dylbert wrote: »

Ha ha, the flames under the door handles are the wrong way round.

Not unless the car only drives really fast in reverse!

L-M

Anan1 wrote: »

TBH, I don't see any fundamental difference - both involve people spending money for that 'look at me, aren't I cool' effect. The driver of a 5 series with a factory M Pack is motivated by exactly the same desires that put furry dice & foglights on Micras, the difference between the two being IMO purely a matter of taste.

Anyone who is has ANY bit of car knowledge will know from ten miles away the difference between and "Mpack" car and any "Mtech" car. Why would anyone buy a 5 series Bmw over a Ford Fiesta? It's for a look at me effect, what you're saying is silly IMO.

mickdw

Having a problem with Msport packs is just silly. Anything factory built is fine with me and I genuinely never thought there was any confusion between Msport & M3/M5 until I came on boards.

Hotwheels

This has been going on for years, in the 80's it was MK111 Escorts going round with RST kits, some were very well done.

At a time when Insurance was going thru the roof in GB on hot hatches, folks bought boggo 1.6's and stuck on a RST Kit. wheels, seats etc.

Even with that lot declared to insurance, you were still cheaper, Insurance almost killed off the hot hatches at one stage. Because of the amount that were being stolen...

Its one industry that is still thriving, and creating jobs too...

Easy to spot on the M-Way, a phaked TypeR ran out of puff trying to keep up with my auld 1.9 oil burner...:D

Anan1

Limerick man wrote: »

Anyone who is has ANY bit of car knowledge will know from ten miles away the difference between and "Mpack" car and any "Mtech" car.

Being perhaps 5% of people. The other 95% won't notice any difference.

Limerick man wrote: »

Why would anyone buy a 5 series Bmw over a Ford Fiesta? It's for a look at me effect

Might be, might not - it's all down to the buyer.

Limerick man wrote: »

what you're saying is silly IMO.

Why? One person specifies an M Pack on their new 5 series because they think it'll make their car look better, the other tarts up a 99 Micra for the same reason. Personal taste aside, what's the difference?

L-M

Anan1 wrote: »

Why? One person specifies an M Pack on their new 5 series because they think it'll make their car look better, the other tarts up a 99 Micra for the same reason. Personal taste aside, what's the difference?

Because an M pack is something you can order from factory, something that hundreds of thousands of people have on their BMW's. It's not someones creation, it's not one of a kind.

Bring the standard Bmw into Halfords where the Micra has been, then you can compare.