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N25/N30 - New Ross Bypass [open to traffic]

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  • Thursday, January 28, 2010

    Both bypasses are ready to go

    THE NEW County Wexford Public Private Partnership (PPP) Project which incorporates the New Ross and Enniscorthy bypasses is on schedule to begin construction in March 2011.

    This was according to Director of Services for Roads, Adrian Doyle at last week’s monthly meeting of the county council.

    Cllr. Declan MacPartlin raised the issue of a High Court challenge to the New Ross bypass that is currently before the court and asked if there had been a decision in that case. Mr. Doyle said the decision is due in January.

    An Bord Pleanála has approved the Environmental Impact Statement and Compulsory Purchase Order for the New Ross element of the scheme, however an application for a judicial review of the board’s decision is currently before the High Court.

    Despite the High Court action work is progressing on the scheme and a contractor has been appointed for the Main Ground Investigation, with the majority of these investigations having been already completed.

    Archaeological test are currently being carried out on 12 per cent of the agricultural land included on the route of the proposed bypass.

    At the meeting Cllr. Martin Murphy brought a motion before the councillors on behalf of the New Ross Electoral Area Committee that plans would be brought forward fort a roundabout at Marshmeadows, New Ross.

    “The reason for this is when the bypass is built the main traffic will enter the town along that road so it will be very important the roundabout will be built before then.” Fellow New Ross councillor Larry O’Brien added: “Going back a number of years ago, this [the roundabout] was going to be a runner. We had a motion to this effect before the council.”

    He added that the junction in question serviced a number of haulage companies and an oil depot.

    “This will be the main road into New Ross and I am calling on the National Roads Authority (NRA) to put plans in place.” Responding, Mr. Doyle said the roundabout at Marshmeadows was not the main priority for the council, mentioning one at Kent’s Cross as higher up on the list as well as a number of others.

    “We can ask the NRA,” Mr. Doyle added.

    In relation to the M11 Gorey to Enniscorthy section of the scheme contractors have also been appointed for detailed ground investigation, topographical surveys while tenders have been received for the archaeological services contract.

    In September An Bord Pleanála held an oral hearing into the scheme and that process is due to be completed early this year.

    So far €274,169 has been spent on the County Wexford PPP Project and the budget for 2010 was not yet available at the meeting.

    Hopefully this project will start moving soon. I am a bit confused though by the PPP part as according to the Wexford County Council website, it will be a non-toll PPP Project. Link




  • More here, enter one Peter Sweetman. It is NOT that Sweetman has a case but that the High Court decision on the Galway Bypass will be appealed and that appeal will take longer than June when the CPOs expire.

    By some miracle it could come back from Brussels before June and the CPOs can be exercised pronto.

    http://www.newrossstandard.ie/news/fears-of-lengthy-delay-in-ross-bypass-project-2059308.html
    THE NEW Ross bypass could be delayed by a number of years following complications arising from a High Court action and the 'decoupling' of the New Ross project from the Enniscorthy bypass development.


    An Bord Pleanala's approval of the Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) for the New Ross bypass is now the subject of a Judicial Review, initiated by objector Peter Sweetmen, and the NRA are unable to proceed with the project.


    Fears are being voiced this week by Deputy Sean Connick that even if this Judicial Review is favourable to the An Bord Pleanála decision, it is still subject to appeal to the Supreme Court.


    'We are in a really difficult situation. We arebeing held to ransom. There are questions to be answered – who is this guy?' said a frustrated Deputy Connick.


    The Fianna Fail TD is now afraid that the CPO approval may expire before the legal review of the EIS approval is complete.


    'The Compulsory Purchase Order approval for the New Ross bypass expires in June 2010 if not exercised before then. There is a real danger that the delay on the court's part in hearing and deciding on the Judicial Review will result in the CPO approval expiring before the legal review of the EIS approval is complete,' he said.

    'If that happens, the NRA will have to reapply for CPO approval. They may be unwilling to risk exercising the CPO in view of the uncertainty as to whether or not the EIS approval will stand. That decision has not been made yet, so it is easy to see that the New Ross Bypass may well be delayed by another couple of years,' added Deputy Connick.

    According to the Fianna Fail TD, Peter Sweetmen, from Rathmines in Dublin, has objected to at least 15 projects in the past, including the Rathcoole Incinerator in Dublin, the President's holiday home, the Galway City bypass, the Shell Pipeline in Mayo and the Ballymun Regeneration Project.




  • Bodan wrote: »
    Hopefully this project will start moving soon.

    Possibly not unless the Galway Bypass scheme legal spat comes back from Brussels before June when the New Ross CPOs expire. I would exercise the CPOs anyway and be done with it. I reckon the county council officials are too frightened to and that is the big problem.

    Peter Sweetman is making a nuisance of himself again :(

    http://www.newrossstandard.ie/news/fears-of-lengthy-delay-in-ross-bypass-project-2059308.html

    An Bord Pleanala's approval of the Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) for the New Ross bypass is now the subject of a Judicial Review, initiated by objector Peter Sweetmen, and the NRA are unable to proceed with the project.

    Fears are being voiced this week by Deputy Sean Connick that even if this Judicial Review is favourable to the An Bord Pleanála decision, it is still subject to appeal to the Supreme Court.


    'We are in a really difficult situation. We are being held to ransom. There are questions to be answered – who is this guy?' said a frustrated Deputy Connick.


    The Fianna Fail TD is now afraid that the CPO approval may expire before the legal review of the EIS approval is complete.


    'The Compulsory Purchase Order approval for the New Ross bypass expires in June 2010 if not exercised before then. There is a real danger that the delay on the court's part in hearing and deciding on the Judicial Review will result in the CPO approval expiring before the legal review of the EIS approval is complete,' he said.




  • surely legal challanges would mean the clock would stop for the execution of CPOs.

    is this a non-issue?




  • We should know in a fortnight

    http://www.newrossecho.ie/news/story/?trs=mhojauidey&cat=news
    If the Judicial Review, which will take place in the High Court on February 23, finds in favour of An Bord Pleanála, the matter might not end there as that decision could be appealed to the Supreme Court.

    Sweetman has quite a dismal track record in the High Court and so it could well be game on again in a fortnight :)


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  • Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Possibly not unless the Galway Bypass scheme legal spat comes back from Brussels before June when the New Ross CPOs expire. I would exercise the CPOs anyway and be done with it. I reckon the county council officials are too frightened to and that is the big problem.

    Peter Sweetman is making a nuisance of himself again :(

    http://www.newrossstandard.ie/news/fears-of-lengthy-delay-in-ross-bypass-project-2059308.html

    I'm no fan of the current legal system in this country (or any other for that matter!). My estimation of our legal system is going the way of that relating to the church - irrelevant and out of touch with reality. It is ludicrous that a large road project (that could benefit so many people) is jeopardised by the concerns relating to one individual person. It seems such a familiar storey on many fronts in this country (not just roads etc.). Our law and legal industry needs to operate in the 21st century and focus on actual fairness rather than legal technicalities which serve only a few.

    Another example relating to road construction: I remember hearing about the M4 Leixlip/Maynooth/Kilcock Bypass being held up by a fiddler who refused to move from his house - IMO, this is an act of pure selfishness and disregard for other people who were suffering from traffic congestion (motorists and residents along the old N4 – emergency services also). There were AFAIK no legal implications in the instance, but such cases which involve disruption to society in whatever way should be fast-tracked to a hearing by public jury (taking moral aspects into consideration) - if the defendant is found guilty of deliberate obstruction (even if it’s technically legal) for no reason other than unreasonable self interest, then heavy penalties should apply!

    Each person in this country should be expected to behave in a manner which contributes to the proper functioning of the state. This means that a person should not be unfair to others (singularly or collectively), or tolerate unfairness imposed upon himself/herself (for reason of precedent).

    Hope this isn’t too technical... :o

    Regards!




  • Why oh why can't we bring in vexatious litigant laws to prevent Sweetman, Salafia et al from delaying infrastructure projects (and the Gaelgoirs from pissant equal-status language claims like the cigarette packets, and that wan that keeps appealing her deportation and and and...)




  • Sponge Bob wrote: »
    More here, enter one Peter Sweetman. It is NOT that Sweetman has a case but that the High Court decision on the Galway Bypass will be appealed and that appeal will take longer than June when the CPOs expire.

    By some miracle it could come back from Brussels before June and the CPOs can be exercised pronto.

    http://www.newrossstandard.ie/news/fears-of-lengthy-delay-in-ross-bypass-project-2059308.html

    Sweetman has some neck! :mad:

    There is a huge chance of lives being lost as a result of him delaying these road projects. He will have blood on his hands and so will the courts for entertaining his objecting bullshit.

    The state should prosecute him for wasting the state's time and money with his frivolous objections. I don't understand why one person is being allowed to cause this much disruption and delay important infrastucture which will save lives and boost economic activity.




  • http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0303/1224265502403.html


    Bid to stop planned New Ross bypass fails
    In this section »
    AN ENVIRONMENTAL campaigner has lost a High Court bid to overturn the granting of planning permission for the New Ross bypass road.

    Peter Sweetman had claimed An Bord Pleanála’s decision upholding a grant of permission for the New Ross bypass breached the EU habitats directive, which provides for the conservation of wild fauna and flora via a system of site designation and restrictions on land use. Mr Sweetman made similar claims in a previous unsuccessful High Court challenge to the Galway city outer bypass road. He has appealed the High Court decision in that case to the Supreme Court.

    Yesterday, Mr Justice John Hedigan ruled the New Ross bypass was subject to an appropriate assessment in light of the conservation objectives for the site.

    There was relevant, and “indeed ample”, evidence before the board upon which it could properly rely to ascertain there would be no likely adverse effect on the site, he said. There was no reasonable scientific doubt about that, he added.

    Mr Sweetman, Grosvenor Road, Rathmines, Dublin, sought judicial review of the board’s decision under the Planning and Development Acts 2000-2006. To bring such a judicial review, a challenger must demonstrate “substantial grounds” rather than the “arguable” grounds for other judicial reviews.

    Mr Sweetman had argued the board’s decision was irrational because the Minister for the Environment, or other authority, had not set out conservation objectives for the lands through which the road would pass, the judge noted.




  • I reckon Isaac is no longer entertained by the judiciary. It is a pity he wasn't given a warning that the next vexatious case would result in him being told to stay out of the courts like Denis Riordan was.


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  • Sponge Bob wrote: »
    I reckon Isaac is no longer entertained by the judiciary. It is a pity he wasn't given a warning that the next vexatious case would result in him being told to stay out of the courts like Denis Riordan was.

    more on the above from local New Ross paper below.....most significant thing is that 'The High Court has taken the wise decision to refuse leave to appeal on their decision', so no further appeals to the supreme court and european court.....




    Wednesday March 03 2010

    THE NEW Ross Bypass is now back on track after the High Court threw out a case yesterday (Tuesday) against the multi-million Euro road project and refused leave to appeal.
    An Bord Pleanala's approval of the Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) for the New Ross Bypass was the subject of a Judicial Review initiated by Dublin man Peter Sweetmen.
    According to Don Curtin, the Liaison Officer with the National Roads Authority (NRA), the judge concluded yesterday that the grounds Mr. Sweetmen raised were 'insubstantial' and he refused leave for judicial review.
    There were serious fears voiced in recent weeks that the judicial review would hold up the entire bypass project for a number of years.
    Up to yesterday the NRA were unable to proceed with the project and Deputy Sean Connick voiced his concern that the CPO approval may expire before the legal review of the Environmental Impact Statement approval is complete.
    'We are back on track. I am absolutely ecstatic,' said Deputy Sean Connick, adding that the High Court case removed the last obstacle to the bypass proceeding.
    'I want to warmly welcome this judgement from the High Court which I regard as a common sense response to this legal challenge... If this challenge had been successful the New Ross By-Pass could have been delayed for another four years,' he said.
    'The High Court has taken the wise decision to refuse leave to appeal on their decision, which will mean that objectors will not be able to delay the project more than they already have by appealing this judgement to the Supreme Court,' added the Fianna Fail TD.
    The New Ross Bypass was 'decoupled' from the Enniscorthy bypass as the NRA did not wish to delay the Enniscorthy Bypass if New Ross one was delayed and decided to proceed with it on a standalone basis as a Public Private Partnership scheme.
    However, the Board of the NRA have a meeting scheduled for next Tuesday, where it is expected that they will take a decision at this meeting to 'recouple' the New Ross and Enniscorthy bypasses as a joint project.
    According to the Fianna Fail TD, Peter Sweetmen, has objected to at least 15 projects in the past, including the Rathcoole Incinerator in Dublin, the Galway City By Pass, the Shell Pipeline in Mayo and the Ballymun Regeneration Project.




  • Goodo, now can all the BANANAS kindly FOAD?




  • There is no overkill with a 2+2 for new ross and a large bridge spanning river there. this should be a standard on such an important route accross the south of ireland. if they put in a two way bypass and roundabouts and traffic lights it will need upgrading just as quick. Maybe people are afraid to lose all the passing business


    just look at the height of the approachs, high sided hills and also the traffic that will use that corridor will definately warrant a full bypass. A signature bridge also will put new ross on the map and could turn out to be a tourist attraction. wait till you see what waterford will attract when word gets around about the cable stay.one of the biggest cable stay bridges in the British isles.


    what a kip New ross is to drive through. narrow streets congestion. Some people love an arguement over nothing. a nice town in itself though don't get me wrong.




  • Does the recent utterances from the Dept of Transport as reported in yesterday's paper finally kill off this PPP project for the foreseeable future along with the proposed M11 from Gorey to Enniscorthy/Oilgate??




  • Road-Hog wrote: »
    Does the recent utterances from the Dept of Transport as reported in yesterday's paper finally kill off this PPP project for the foreseeable future along with the proposed M11 from Gorey to Enniscorthy/Oilgate??

    Instead of building a bridge across Ireland's second longest river, carrying important regional & international traffic (including much heavy freight from & to ports) away from notorious rush hour jams & improving local transport links, the gombeen political classes of Ireland will now choose to spend the money on useless projects elsewhere. :rolleyes:

    Just watch the Parish Pump politicians of the West demanding that their local projects go to the top of the list instead:mad:




  • Bump! I just created this dedicated New Ross Bypass thread by moving posts from various M11 and N25 threads.

    newrossbypass.jpg

    This is coupled in a PPP bundle with the M11 Enniscorthy Bypass. From the NRA's second round PPP programme document (attached):
    The N25 New Ross Bypass scheme commences at Glenmore in County Kilkenny and crosses over the River Barrow via Extrados Bridge at Pink Point in County Kilkenny and Stokestown in County Wexford. It then continues in an easterly direction where the bypass intersects with the R733 in Camlin and continues in a north easterly direction to connect to the N25 at Ballymacar Bridge. From there the bypass route continues to the northeast finishing at the N30, at a point to the east of Corcoran’s Cross.

    Scheme Features:
    • Three at grade roundabout junctions at Glenmore (N25), Ballymacarbridge (N25), Corcoran’s Cross (N30) and a compact grade separated junction at Camlin (R733).
    • River Barrow crossing with a 36m clearance of the river channel. The crossing will be by way of a 3 tower Extrados bridge and the structure will extend for approximately 900 metres from Pink Point in Co. Kilkenny to Stokestown in Co. Wexford;
    • 1 No. Railway Bridge – an overbridge of the disused New Ross/ Waterford railway line near Glenmore;
    • 11 No. Road Bridges;
    • 13 minor structures such as accommodation underpasses.




  • (New Ross Standard, print edition, 19 October 2010)

    Five consortia have been shortlisted to bid for the design and building of the Enniscorthy and New Ross by-passes in a private and public partnership arrangement.

    It is expected that the preferred bidder will be selected early next year and contracts should be signed by the end of 2011.




  • I'm interested as to what they're going to do at the N30 end of this. The slightly better map (the one here is missing junctions even!) shows it ending mid-field as its meant to abut another project.

    http://www.wexford.ie/wex/Departments/Roads/NationalRoadsLiaisonOffice/M11GoreytoEnniscorthyScheme/Thefile,8141,en.pdf

    That scheme appears to have survived the chop but is only in prelim design stages - http://www.newrossecho.ie/news/story/?trs=mhgbqlmhgb&cat=news

    How to join the existing N30 without leaving future problems for a tie in is gonna be the issue here.




  • Will the New Ross Bypass be a Type 2 DC spec?




  • Furet wrote: »
    Will the New Ross Bypass be a Type 2 DC spec?

    No full motorway standard apart from green signs and hatched hard shoulder lining.


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  • Not the link from the N25 to the N30....surely




  • Will the New Ross bypass / River Barrow bridge ever be built? I was assuming that it was already shelved or even canceled but according to the local paper http://www.newrossstandard.ie/news/bypass-project-hasnt-stalled-2895189.html it will still eventually happen!! :rolleyes:

    Are the government & NRA just making excuses to local politicians, this happens often enough so I'm assuming that's still the case here :confused: Everyone knows the country is broke so why not tell the truth??? ;)


    Apologies if this subject is already covered in another tread that I can't find :D




  • Its in an un-cancelled PPP bundle, but its so far down the list that its many, many years off. We can't get people to take the higher priority, possibly cheaper, PPP bundles as it stands.




  • Thanks MYOB, I suspected as much. :rolleyes:




  • I presume PPP means it would be tolled,so one look at the waterford bridge and its high avoidance rate would be an instant turnoff:(




  • hi5 wrote: »
    I presume PPP means it would be tolled,so one look at the waterford bridge and its high avoidance rate would be an instant turnoff:(

    Untolled PPPs can and most likely will exist. There isn't enough traffic for a tolled one to be successful.




  • Looks like this thread could be active again :-) . Brendan Howlin is set to announce this as one of the schemes to go ahead over the next few years.




  • jd wrote: »
    Looks like this thread could be active again :-) . Brendan Howlin is set to announce this as one of the schemes to go ahead over the next few years.

    Is Howlin a Wexford TD perchance?




  • Is Howlin a Wexford TD perchance?
    yes.. just like Dick Roche in Wicklow and Martin Cullen in Waterford...


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  • barney 20v wrote: »
    yes.. just like Dick Roche in Wicklow and Martin Cullen in Waterford...

    While its great to see some activity at long last, the old parish pump crap continues unabaited.

    Still i guess its a good day overall


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