30kph speed limit history soon?

Guy:Incognito

LordSutch wrote: »

Maybe down a small laneway or cul-de-sac, but 30 km/h is 18 mph in old money (2nd gear) :cool:

How does you car know what type of road its on and adjust it's behaviour to give trouble on the quays

af_thefragile

I have never driven through the city center at 30kmph. Its just too slow and ridiculous!

Today I was trying to do 30kmph and I was getting overtaken by buses on the left and everything else on the right or was holding a lot of traffic behind me.

I just keep pace with the traffic and the average speed every one drives at in the city is around 40-50kmph. Even the cyclists don't do 30kmph!

I have yet to see someone driving through the city center at 30kmph.

And everyone who says they drive through the city at 30kmph is just plain lying or they only drive during rush hour when you're just sitting in your car stationary the whole time. Even then when the cars move, a lot of times you go faster than 30kmph.

Maybe in some countries with narrow and crowded roads 30kmph seems fine.
But Dublin city roads are not very narrow neither are they that crowded most of the time to be able to be dangerous doing anything above 30kmph...

D_murph

Tragedy wrote: »

I've been overtaken on the Quays by cyclists.

I wonder if they get speeding tickets there :rolleyes:? I realise that a mechanically propelled vehicle is required in order to get a ticket but the cog wheels and chains are mechanical to me. Whether the fuel source comes from petrol/diesel or a human powered by food should be irrelevant. You can still hurt someone badly on a bike if they walk out in front of you.

Which brings me to another point later on in this post.

cosmic wrote: »

I always meticulously stick to the 30 limit in the city centre (for fear of getting caught speeding more than anything else!). However, I've found that occasionally at large junctions i can't get through the lights on time, even when there's no traffic. It's green when I enter, turns amber and has turned red before I'm through the junction. Bizarre that they didn't adjust the timers on the lights to the new speed limits.

Bizarre indeed as they did say they were going to in order to make it pointless to speed in the first place .

djimi wrote: »

.....In my opinion there is absolutely no threat to pedestrians or anyone elses safety by cars travelling at up to 50km/h thru the city center, and any pedestrians that are in danger have most likely put themselves in danger by not taking proper precautions while crossing the road and by generally doing as they please and not taking heed of the cars around them. The onus of responsibility needs to be put on pedestrians for their own safety, not on the car drivers, and I would prefer to see a €100 on the spot fine introduced for jaywalking, rather than speed limits designed to slow cars to a crawl.

djimi wrote: »

You could argue the same about any road with a footpath running alongside it. If pedestrians stayed on the path where they belong, crossed at pedestrian lights like they should instead of taking a chance running out across traffic, and cars stay on the road as they should, then there should be no need for a limit like this. How many instances are there in a year of cars mounting the footpath because of speeds of around 50km/h and injuring or killing pedestrians? Few if any Id imagine.

These points exactly^. It was taught to us in school. The safe cross code, remember? You look each way before crossing to make sure it is safe and not just barge out onto the road blindly in the hope that you will not be hit by a car like another Darwin award :rolleyes:.

veritable wrote: »

How many people have been killed/injured on the quays by speed in the past years?

I would say very few if any.

So there is no logical reason for having this ridiculous speed limit. The beaurocrats in the Dublin CO co are well happy with themselves - trying to show us that they're actually doing something.

Exactly, its just another way of making it look like they are doing something when in fact, all it is doing is making the life of motorists harder/more annoying and ignoring the fact that the pedestrians need to watch out for their own safety too.

But no!! Just lump another ridiculous speed limit on the ever guilty until proven innocent motorist and tell us afterwards that if he/she had obeyed it, the clueless person that walked out into traffic without looking would still be alive and punish them accordingly :rolleyes:.

Im not saying that pedestrians are always wrong or drivers are always right here either but it does seem lately that no matter what kind of stupidity a pedestrian does, if they get hit by a car, the driver of that car is always at fault and a more common sense approach needs to be taken by all sides in order for everyone's safety.