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What is best way to get definition ,ripped

  • 14-09-2010 12:00am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭


    Hi guys I am male 19 years old 5ft 7,70kg body fat is 9%
     
    What am I doing right and wrong here .I train 7days a week .I have fairly good diet (don’t eat eggs ,chicken for protein)
    My diet as follows
    For breakfast I normally have flapjack.
    For dinner I could have - toasted sandwich (brown bread,cheese,tomatoe,onion)
    - soup n roll
    -just vegetables and meet (no spuds)
    In evening I could have tuna with homemade brown toast
    Salad or beans .
    If I eat chocolate its only dark chocolate.
    And maybe once a week I could have takeaway
    -I train 7days a week .routine as follows
    -5 spin classes a week hour each
    -1hr booth camp per week (squats,lunges,situps,press ups,sprinting,)
    -5ab classes per week
    -1hr weight class a week (high reps low weight )
    I do weights as follows about 5days
    Bench press ( reps or 12,10,8,6) starting with 30kg and adding weight after every set
    Assisted chin ups with 5kg (reps of 12-10-8-6)
    Shoulder press (reps 12,10.8.6) weight 14-18kg
    Arm curls (reps 12,10,8,6)weight 15kg-20kg
    Triceps extensions( reps 12,10,8,6) 14-16kg
    Reverse sit ups -20 reps 3 sets
    Abs machine 20reps 3 sets 50kg
    Only doing the weights for about 3 weeks
    When should I see changes .
    Will I get six-pack or am I doing too much cardio ?
    Should I take protein supplements as


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Ray Mond


    Eat more... Why don't u eat chicken or eggs? Ur training too much also have a day or 2 rest each week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    midlands19 wrote: »
    What am I doing right and wrong here .I train 7days a week .I have fairly good diet (don’t eat eggs ,chicken for protein)

    Why don't you eat eggs. They are a great source of protein and fats.

    My diet as follows
    For breakfast I normally have flapjack. I doubt flapjack is great
    For dinner I could have - toasted sandwich (brown bread,cheese,tomatoe,onion)
    - soup n roll
    -just vegetables and meet (no spuds)

    Sanswichs/rolls etc wouldn't be great for dinner. Same for toast later

    In evening I could have tuna with homemade brown toast
    Salad or beans .
    If I eat chocolate its only dark chocolate.



    And maybe once a week I could have takeaway

    I'm guessing you know thats not great

    -I train 7days a week .routine as follows
    -5 spin classes a week hour each
    -1hr booth camp per week (squats,lunges,situps,press ups,sprinting,)
    -5ab classes per week
    -1hr weight class a week (high reps low weight )

    5 ab classes are mostly like a waste of time,

    I do weights as follows about 5days
    Bench press ( reps or 12,10,8,6) starting with 30kg and adding weight after every set
    Assisted chin ups with 5kg (reps of 12-10-8-6)
    Shoulder press (reps 12,10.8.6) weight 14-18kg
    Arm curls (reps 12,10,8,6)weight 15kg-20kg
    Triceps extensions( reps 12,10,8,6) 14-16kg
    Reverse sit ups -20 reps 3 sets
    Abs machine 20reps 3 sets 50kg
    Only doing the weights for about 3 weeks
    Stop doing curls, crunchs, machijes etc,
    start doing more big lifts, deadlifts, squats, with weights not boot camp body weight squats in the morning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭metamorphosis


    Regards your diet, the advice given in these threads to you already is still sound

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055899780


    Also regards the gym and training, there was some good advice from the usual suspects in these threads

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055919204
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055953536


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    ULstudent wrote: »
    Regards your diet, the advice given in these threads to you already is still sound

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055899780


    Also regards the gym and training, there was some good advice from the usual suspects in these threads

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055919204
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055953536
    agreed - there was lots of advice given already and hope you have took it on board


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,282 ✭✭✭Bandara


    I think you might be squatting too heavy....

    In May you were 5ft 9"

    In June you were 5ft 8"

    Now your 5ft 7"....


    ..... either that or your toning the soles of your feet a little too lean !

    :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    Hammertime wrote: »
    I think you might be squatting too heavy....

    In May you were 5ft 9"

    In June you were 5ft 8"

    Now your 5ft 7"....


    ..... either that or your toning the soles of your feet a little too lean !

    :p
    Yes i noticed that also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭Patdusty2010


    9% body fat? Where and how did you get that measured?

    The best way imo to get ripped is interval training. To be honest though if you want to get ripped you can't really leave anything out so you need to do weights/cardio and interval training and train your /ollox off..

    I wouldn't do ab classes myself. The top way to show your ab's is to lower your fat %, and if you are 9% they really should be showing...

    Also at most train 6 days a week so you can have some recovery time. If you are training 7 times a week your body won't have enough time to recover and you won't train at your optimum level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭midlands19


    9% body fat? Where and how did you get that measured?

    The best way imo to get ripped is interval training. To be honest though if you want to get ripped you can't really leave anything out so you need to do weights/cardio and interval training and train your /ollox off..

    I wouldn't do ab classes myself. The top way to show your ab's is to lower your fat %, and if you are 9% they really should be showing...

    Also at most train 6 days a week so you can have some recovery time. If you are training 7 times a week your body won't have enough time to recover and you won't train at your optimum level.



    got body fat % measured at gym with machine .

    as regards the heights i have been measured this time round .

    i do leg work on machines with 120kg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭d10carter


    your life seems boring. my diet is like awful and i'm in unbelievable shape. relax and enjoy life :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    midlands19 wrote: »
    got body fat % measured at gym with machine .

    as regards the heights i have been measured this time round .

    i do leg work on machines with 120kg
    overall man i realy think you could do with putting on about 4-6kg in muscle and just getting much stronger.

    Forget ab classes and spend the time working on strength - what you lift on a leg machine in the gym does not count IMO. What you deadlift, squat or do lunges with will count much more


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,254 ✭✭✭Esse85


    midlands19 wrote: »
    Hi guys I am male 19 years old 5ft 7,70kg body fat is 9%
     
    What am I doing right and wrong here .I train 7days a week .I have fairly good diet (don’t eat eggs ,chicken for protein)
    My diet as follows
    For breakfast I normally have flapjack.
    For dinner I could have - toasted sandwich (brown bread,cheese,tomatoe,onion)
    - soup n roll
    -just vegetables and meet (no spuds)
    In evening I could have tuna with homemade brown toast
    Salad or beans .
    If I eat chocolate its only dark chocolate.
    And maybe once a week I could have takeaway
    -I train 7days a week .routine as follows
    -5 spin classes a week hour each
    -1hr booth camp per week (squats,lunges,situps,press ups,sprinting,)
    -5ab classes per week
    -1hr weight class a week (high reps low weight )
    I do weights as follows about 5days
    Bench press ( reps or 12,10,8,6) starting with 30kg and adding weight after every set
    Assisted chin ups with 5kg (reps of 12-10-8-6)
    Shoulder press (reps 12,10.8.6) weight 14-18kg
    Arm curls (reps 12,10,8,6)weight 15kg-20kg
    Triceps extensions( reps 12,10,8,6) 14-16kg
    Reverse sit ups -20 reps 3 sets
    Abs machine 20reps 3 sets 50kg
    Only doing the weights for about 3 weeks
    When should I see changes .
    Will I get six-pack or am I doing too much cardio ?
    Should I take protein supplements as
    you need to do your own research first, then come on here and ask how to fine tune things.

    Learn the basics on your own.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,892 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Transform wrote: »
    overall man i realy think you could do with putting on about 4-6kg in muscle and just getting much stronger.

    Forget ab classes and spend the time working on strength - what you lift on a leg machine in the gym does not count IMO. What you deadlift, squat or do lunges with will count much more

    +1 learn to squat and deadlift.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    9% bodyfat, sweet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭SIX PACK


    Your diagram looks good you just need to Squat some & Squat some more... Its the daddy If you want to get that Six or 8 pack (pushes out the abdomonal muscles)....
    I found squatting a bitch when i started 3 yrs ago but just keep the weight comfortable to what you can lift until your body gets used to the Exercise. then up the Kilograms- All the best


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭midlands19


    Transform wrote: »
    overall man i realy think you could do with putting on about 4-6kg in muscle and just getting much stronger.

    Forget ab classes and spend the time working on strength - what you lift on a leg machine in the gym does not count IMO. What you deadlift, squat or do lunges with will count much more


    yea your right i have gained only id say 2-3kg muscle since i joined gym .
    wheres your videos on youtube transform cant find em ?
    any tips or advice for deadlifts,squats for someone with week back ?
    whats your opinion on protein suplements ? as i have very little proteine in my diet .
    and is 9% body fat low enough to see definition when i put on muscle ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Protein supplements, or otherwise, get some more protein into your diet, chicken, fish, meat, eat it all.

    As for 9% bodyfat, you may not actually be that low, those machines are unreliable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭Patdusty2010


    midlands19 wrote: »
    yea your right i have gained only id say 2-3kg muscle since i joined gym .
    wheres your videos on youtube transform cant find em ?
    any tips or advice for deadlifts,squats for someone with week back ?
    whats your opinion on protein suplements ? as i have very little proteine in my diet .
    and is 9% body fat low enough to see definition when i put on muscle ?

    Did you get this 9% figure measured with Calipers? 9% is low enough to see definition. I am 12%. I don't know anyone that is 9%. The lowest I know is 10% and this guy is up at 6am training then training again at 6pm most days doing strength and conditioning. He isn't working which is why he is able to do this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭midlands19


    Did you get this 9% figure measured with Calipers? 9% is low enough to see definition. I am 12%. I don't know anyone that is 9%. The lowest I know is 10% and this guy is up at 6am training then training again at 6pm most days doing strength and conditioning. He isn't working which is why he is able to do this.


    this was on a machine that messures weight .body fat % target % etc ..

    bare feet standing on two pads and holding two probes and it reads it ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 Tico


    those machines aren't the most accurate out there as their measurements are based on passing a small electric current through the body so depending how hydrated or dehydrated you are it affects the readings


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Ray Mond


    Did you get this 9% figure measured with Calipers? 9% is low enough to see definition. I am 12%. I don't know anyone that is 9%. The lowest I know is 10% and this guy is up at 6am training then training again at 6pm most days doing strength and conditioning. He isn't working which is why he is able to do this.

    MY MATE IS 4%


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭The Guvnor


    Did you get this 9% figure measured with Calipers? 9% is low enough to see definition. I am 12%. I don't know anyone that is 9%. The lowest I know is 10% and this guy is up at 6am training then training again at 6pm most days doing strength and conditioning. He isn't working which is why he is able to do this.

    I was under 9% a few times when rowing as tested in the blackrock clinic. Now when I say under 9% I was never under 8%.

    Bodyfat is irrelevant imo - different methods as discussed give different results, same methods different sites give different results. The mirror is the best judge - preferably with favourable lighting!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    overall man just get a better program, eat more protein rich foods but in general read the stickies on diet as you need to get the basics right


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,892 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Ray Mond wrote: »
    MY MATE IS 4%

    I'd put money on it that he is more than that.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭cardio,shoot me


    but brian, he posted in capitals, it must be true


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭Barry.Oglesby


    Ray Mond wrote: »
    MY MATE IS 4%
    He's not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭Shane732


    Ray Mond wrote: »
    MY MATE IS 40%

    Just had to correct something


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    midlands19, you need to start doing your own research instead of waiting for people to tell you what to do.

    A tiny bit of googling will tell you your diet is fairly crap, you're doing too many pointless classes, and you're not resting enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    Don't be encouraging people to use google over this forum for fitness advice...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 425 ✭✭TheRiddler


    midlands19 wrote: »
    Hi guys I am male 19 years old 5ft 7,70kg body fat is 9%
     
    What am I doing right and wrong here .I train 7days a week .I have fairly good diet (don’t eat eggs ,chicken for protein)
    My diet as follows
    For breakfast I normally have flapjack.
    For dinner I could have - toasted sandwich (brown bread,cheese,tomatoe,onion)
    - soup n roll
    -just vegetables and meet (no spuds)
    In evening I could have tuna with homemade brown toast
    Salad or beans .
    If I eat chocolate its only dark chocolate.
    And maybe once a week I could have takeaway
    -I train 7days a week .routine as follows
    -5 spin classes a week hour each
    -1hr booth camp per week (squats,lunges,situps,press ups,sprinting,)
    -5ab classes per week
    -1hr weight class a week (high reps low weight )
    I do weights as follows about 5days
    Bench press ( reps or 12,10,8,6) starting with 30kg and adding weight after every set
    Assisted chin ups with 5kg (reps of 12-10-8-6)
    Shoulder press (reps 12,10.8.6) weight 14-18kg
    Arm curls (reps 12,10,8,6)weight 15kg-20kg

    Triceps extensions( reps 12,10,8,6) 14-16kg
    Reverse sit ups -20 reps 3 sets
    Abs machine 20reps 3 sets 50kg
    Only doing the weights for about 3 weeks
    When should I see changes .
    Will I get six-pack or am I doing too much cardio ?
    Should I take protein supplements as

    If you can curl more then you can shoulder press you are either have some freaky biceps or you are more then likely throwing the weights up with bad form.

    Also, your program seems very showey offy. I mean you only target your chest, arms and abs really like you are only trying to show off in the gym or something. Get squats, deadlifts, dips and rows in there man.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭midlands19


    TheRiddler wrote: »
    If you can curl more then you can shoulder press you are either have some freaky biceps or you are more then likely throwing the weights up with bad form.

    Also, your program seems very showey offy. I mean you only target your chest, arms and abs really like you are only trying to show off in the gym or something. Get squats, deadlifts, dips and rows in there man.


    thats the programe i was givin whats showey offy about it ? i do do dips and squats . i was told to do leg work on machines as my back is not good so no deadlifts .


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