Training twice daily

batista

So im going to start training twice a day 1 or 2 times a week. Question is if your training twice a day is it better to train weights in the afternoon and run in the evening or the other way around??? I wouldnt mind toning up a bit but i dont want to lose strength at all

The Guvnor

It's a tough question to answer. Afternoon and evening seem very close together mate.

My initial thought is evening weights definitely.

However maybe training am and pm makes more sense and am weights are ok once you get used to it.

When training twice a day the ideal is to do it say at 6am and 6pm to maximise the recovery between sessions. This is irrelevant if you are not working and have lots of time free during the day for recovery/sleep etc.:D

How many times a week are you thinking of doubling up?

Penrose

Dont do weights and cardio on the same day, the body cannot effectively balance their results instead it optimizes one or the other.

Thats why you dont see many multi marathon runners who win weight lifting competitions and vice versa.

Train weights one day and cardio the next, light to moderate cardio without running will actually increase your healing.

AntiVirus

Penrose wrote: »

Thats why you dont see many multi marathon runners who win weight lifting competitions and vice versa.

I think the op wants to be somewhere in between.

Dotcomdolly

I would run in the a.m and lift in the evening.
Reason being I can't run after squatting because my thighs & ass won't lift my legs

TommyKnocker

Penrose wrote: »

Dont do weights and cardio on the same day, the body cannot effectively balance their results instead it optimizes one or the other.

Thats why you dont see many multi marathon runners who win weight lifting competitions and vice versa.

Train weights one day and cardio the next, light to moderate cardio without running will actually increase your healing.

Marathon Runners run Marathons, Weight Lifters enter Weight Lifting Comps. There is no crossover, so your second statement makes absolutely no sense.

Running and lifting on the same day may not be an issue depending on the OP's goals.


M

heno86

first off what kind of results are you trying to achieve? is it for sport? how many days a week do you train currently?enthusiasm is great but it maybe unnecessary and could very possibly lead to overtraining..more details please. to answer the original question in a very general way i'd recommend weights first especially considering that strength seems to be quite important to you as i you will need to be fresh to really push yourself unless of course your a marathon runner etc.

Mellor

Penrose wrote: »

Thats why you dont see many multi marathon runners who win weight lifting competitions and vice versa.
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????
The fact that marathon runners win marathons and weight lifters win lifting comps has absolutely zero to do with the fact they they don't do cardio and weights on the same day.

Phill Ewinn

A couple of BBers (on a cut) used to train cardio in the evening/ weight in the morning due their restrictive diet. They seemed to have more energy in the am.

g'em

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

A couple of BBers (on a cut) used to train cardio in the evening/ weight in the morning due their restrictive diet. They seemed to have more energy in the am.

In fairness though, the conditions that a competitive BBer is training under, teh experience they have, the nailed down diet and and the... eh... numerous supplements they take will be a large factor in recovery. That's largely different to the OP who wants to look a bit better nekkid (an admirable a goal as any btw, I'm not knocking it!)

OP why do you want to train twice a day? Because you like it or because you want to lose weight? It is possible to train twice a day, but it's hard, and by and large unecessary for most people's goals.

Transform

agreed - depends on the goal but really not quite necessary for the vast majority and i see many people starting to do this because they want to try to out train their diet rather than clearing up some issues there.

I regularly do 2-3 sessions per day but the intensity of each is quite varied i.e. one might be a light run/row, olympic lifting session, strength session, metcon, yoga session with foam rolling etc plus its all about the recovery rate. Try doing 2-3 sessions a day without paying attention to exercise selection, intensity, optimal diet, sleep etc and you are going to crash hard.

Barry.Oglesby

Lots of fallacies here.

1. Define your goal.
2. Eat and rest around your sessions in a manner befitting those goals
3. Volume is not your friend twice a day, but you won't need it to be.
4. Rest.
5. Eat properly
6. Rest
7. Sleep

Nothing at all wrong with an "average Joe" training twice per day, in fact I salute your enthusiasm good sir. Also bodybuilders take the world's supply of drugs to enable them to keep size and strength while doing 2 sessions per day so probably best to bear that in mind.

8. Sleep

batista

Currently training approximately 5-6 days per week, mixture of runnning and weights. I just want to mix it up as im going back playing football. Thinking of just for starting with 1 day per week doing some weights in the morning and football training or a swim in the evening. For some reason when ive tried to lift weight and run im just boloxed.

My goals are to keep strength but at the same time increase my speed and stamina.

cardio,shoot me

i train around 9-10 times a week at the moment, sometimes more

weight training, jujitsu, mountain biking, road cycling, and im gonna start a bit of cross country running, just have to know when to keep the intensity low

Lothaar v2

Transform wrote: »

Try doing 2-3 sessions a day without paying attention to exercise selection, intensity, optimal diet, sleep etc and you are going to crash hard.

What exactly should be considered when doing 2-3 sessions a day?

Every time I do this, I end up run-down. Usually, I end up sick and can't train for a couple of weeks. I started training multiple times per day last week and today I've got a sore throat and a bit of a head-cold.

But... if I don't train multiple times per day, I get nowhere cos I don't have any time to do one decent big session. Very frustrating and it's been going on for years.