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International Rules Series 2010

  • 12-09-2010 8:22pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭


    1st Test on Saturday October 23rd at 7:00pm in the Gaelic grounds Limerick.
    Probably jumping the gun a bit here as most people are still waiting for the championship to finish but I am looking forward to the first test as it is a bit of a novelty playing it in Limerick (and under lights as well).
    Limerick is only an hour down the road to me so I will probably go, don't know what kind of a team Ireland will put out;presumably nobody from Down or Cork will be playing (hopefully Galvin gets picked:))


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    It should be good. It was a pity it did not happen last year. I won't be around for the first test, but I plan to be there for the one in Croke Park. It is usually good. There are always a lot of complaints about the whole thing, but when the teams actually stick to the rules and play it as it is meant to be, it is not a bad game to watch. Hopefully they will do that this time and we will get something to remember for the right reasons, topped with an Irish victory of course. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    This is just an accident waiting to happen. When the Aussies start loosing they will start the fighting again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    I will probably go to the Second test but no way will I be in the Hill for it.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    The last series was good. Hard but fair. Hoping for more of the same this year. Looking forward to seeing Marty Clarke up against the Aussies (again).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭jackbhoy


    teednab-el wrote: »
    This is just an accident waiting to happen. When the Aussies start loosing they will start the fighting again.

    The aussies don't start all the rows in fairness, just looks bad because they win them all. Saw a few Irish players at last test hitting sly digs and then whining to ref when they got it back with interest!

    Looks like Gary Ablett is coming over this time, be interesting to see how he adapts, he's some afl player..
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/next-stop-for-gary-ablett-ireland/story-e6frf9jf-1225924290274


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭lukin


    The Aussies may not send their best players. It's a long trip and they don't see it as that important. Taking the first test to Limerick is sign of the GAA trying to generate flagging interest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Stevecw


    We will be missing a lot of our best players too as some co finals or more likely early provincal club games could fall around that time too.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    lukin wrote: »
    The Aussies may not send their best players. It's a long trip and they don't see it as that important. Taking the first test to Limerick is sign of the GAA trying to generate flagging interest.
    Last time it was in Ireland they brought it to Galway for the first test and the second was in Croke Park. Both games were completely sold out and I wouldn't be surprised if this years series is sold out too. The Gaelic Grounds needs a sell out game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    lukin wrote: »
    The Aussies may not send their best players. It's a long trip and they don't see it as that important. Taking the first test to Limerick is sign of the GAA trying to generate flagging interest.

    Your first point is true. The Aussies take it less seriously than we do, and if they put out their best team I firmly believe they would beat us about 80% of the time, despite the rules of the game being far more in our favour than theirs.

    However moving the game to Limerick doesnt indicate flagging interest. The Aussies take the 2 tests to different cities (Perth and Melbourne the last time I think) so why shouldnt the GAA do the same? Having both tests in the one stadium/city basically says to the Aussies that we have no other place that is worth visiting!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    04072511 wrote: »
    Your first point is true. The Aussies take it less seriously than we do, and if they put out their best team I firmly believe they would beat us about 80% of the time, despite the rules of the game being far more in our favour than theirs.

    Really? I'd've said the rules were far, far closer to Aussie Rules than Gaelic Football, to me it seems it's basically their game with a round ball and rectangular pitch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭jackbhoy


    amacachi wrote: »
    Really? I'd've said the rules were far, far closer to Aussie Rules than Gaelic Football, to me it seems it's basically their game with a round ball and rectangular pitch.

    The ball is by far and away most important though. If you spent your whole life learning to kick a round or oval ball it's very difficult to adapt your style. the technique involved is very different which is why you see a lot of Aussie players with (what we'd call) strange kicking technique. If it was played with an oval ball Ireland would have no chance, IMO.

    Australia tend to get stronger team to visit to Ireland as they seem to like the jolly! Given some of names being touted in (ever unreliable) Australian press, I'd say they'll name a strong panel.

    Can't say I'll be getting too excited by it but proably go to test in croker anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    jackbhoy wrote: »
    The ball is by far and away most important though. If you spent your whole life learning to kick a round or oval ball it's very difficult to adapt your style. the technique involved is very different which is why you see a lot of Aussie players with (what we'd call) strange kicking technique. If it was played with an oval ball Ireland would have no chance, IMO.

    Australia tend to get stronger team to visit to Ireland as they seem to like the jolly! Given some of names being touted in (ever unreliable) Australian press, I'd say they'll name a strong panel.

    Can't say I'll be getting too excited by it but proably go to test in croker anyway.

    The tackling is a bigger change than the shape of the ball IMO. I've **** all experience with an oval ball but it took me 20 minutes to get to within 90% accuracy with one compared with what I can do with a round one, though I'm crap with those too. :pac: When just dicking about I find it easier using the straight-on technique with a straight ball. The technique for kicking an oval ball can be used on a round one just fine, especially if you're already used to kicking like that. On the other hand the tackling completely changes the dynamic of the game, runs have to be made much differently and "open space" means something completely different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    i wouldnt mind going to these, may even be in limerick on the 23rd of october also....

    how much were the ticket prices the last time?

    any idea of a panel? very hard to pick due to club commitments and people who wont play, but you would think the following would be asked to play anyway....

    kerry - seamus scanlon, declan sullivan, tommy walsh, tadhg kennelly, thomas o shea, Galvin (would be interesting to see if he plays)
    cork - o neill, canty, shields, kelly, goulding, cadagan,
    limerick - galvin.
    dublin - the 2 brogans, cullen, cluxton as keeper, ideal for it.

    down would have 4, clarke and coulter especially, o shea from mayo, tyrone 3 or 4, one or 2 from armagh. one from louth, one from antrim, one from wicklow, maybe one or 2 from meath.

    hard to say yet though who exactly would be involved.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    i wouldnt mind going to these, may even be in limerick on the 23rd of october also....

    how much were the ticket prices the last time?

    any idea of a panel? very hard to pick due to club commitments and people who wont play, but you would think the following would be asked to play anyway....

    kerry - seamus scanlon, declan sullivan, tommy walsh, tadhg kennelly, thomas o shea, Galvin (would be interesting to see if he plays)
    cork - o neill, canty, shields, kelly, goulding, cadagan,
    limerick - galvin.
    dublin - the 2 brogans, cullen, cluxton as keeper, ideal for it.

    down would have 4, clarke and coulter especially, o shea from mayo, tyrone 3 or 4, one or 2 from armagh. one from louth, one from antrim, one from wicklow, maybe one or 2 from meath.

    hard to say yet though who exactly would be involved.

    Setanta O hAilpin as well from Cork, and the two Brisbane boys would have a shout as well Pearce Hanley from County Mayo, and Niall McKeever from County Antrim. And no fellas from Kerry I would think from what was said!

    edit: found this on Hoganstand
    Provisional panel of 45: Paddy Keenan, Eamonn McAuley (Louth), Leighton Glynn, Ciaran Hyland (Wicklow), Brendan Murphy (Carlow), Colm Begley, Donie Kingston (Laois), Stephen Cluxton, Bernard Brogan, Alan Brogan, Rory O'Carroll, Michael Darragh Macauley (Dublin),Kevin Reilly (Meath), Ciarán McKeever, Stevie McDonnell (Armagh) Paul Finlay (Monaghan) ,Gareth Bradshaw (Galway) Joe & Justin McMahon (Tyrone) Rob Kelly, Peter Kelly, Hughie Lynch, James Kavanagh, Emmet Bolton (Kildare), Niall McNamee (Offally) Johnny McCarthy, John Galvin(Limerick)

    I remember reading somewhere that they were training Friday evenings and Saturday mornings!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭muincav


    jackbhoy wrote: »
    The aussies don't start all the rows in fairness, just looks bad because they win them all. Saw a few Irish players at last test hitting sly digs and then whining to ref when they got it back with interest!

    Looks like Gary Ablett is coming over this time, be interesting to see how he adapts, he's some afl player..
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/next-stop-for-gary-ablett-ireland/story-e6frf9jf-1225924290274

    Yeah youre right the Aussies dont start all the fights, but they do go in like cowards and go 3 or 4 on one Irish player, and have always done it that way since the days of the "Compromise Rules". I was at the first tests back in 1984 and there was a few players who should have been arrested then and in a few later tests, not all Aussies, but mostly.
    The only time the Aussies win the tests is when they play dirty and nasty, but when they try to play with skill, its the Irish who prevail.
    Dont get me wrong, I am a big fan of the International rules, but there has to be a limit to how much you can get away with..;)


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    The Aussies won't play nasty, if they do and are caught, they will be fined and suspended for a number of games back home, not worth it to become nasty nasty like we have seen in previous tests, because there was no repercussion after the game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭derickmc


    04072511 wrote: »
    Your first point is true. The Aussies take it less seriously than we do, and if they put out their best team I firmly believe they would beat us about 80% of the time, despite the rules of the game being far more in our favour than theirs.

    I think that's just aussie propaganda that they spin when they lose. Going by the way the celebrate wins, their win at all costs attitude and the way their commentators almost lose the plot with excitement when they win I'd disagree with this.

    They just like to pretend they are not taking it too seriously when their stars are embarrassed by at team of amateurs.
    04072511 wrote: »
    despite the rules of the game being far more in our favour than theirs.

    You get a free kick every time you get a mark. A good ball in to a forward in Gaelic football in bounced on front of him, suicide in this game. I think the mark and the tackle easily make up for the ball. Add to that they are professional athletes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Swoosh


    jackbhoy wrote: »
    The ball is by far and away most important though. If you spent your whole life learning to kick a round or oval ball it's very difficult to adapt your style. the technique involved is very different which is why you see a lot of Aussie players with (what we'd call) strange kicking technique. If it was played with an oval ball Ireland would have no chance, IMO.

    Australia tend to get stronger team to visit to Ireland as they seem to like the jolly! Given some of names being touted in (ever unreliable) Australian press, I'd say they'll name a strong panel.

    Can't say I'll be getting too excited by it but proably go to test in croker anyway.

    this ball bit is a load of rubbish for me.

    Round is the conventional ball an with soccer being a worldwide sport i'm sure they have plenty practice with a round ball

    maybe if gaa was played with a square ball it'd be an advantage but a round ball is something everyone is used to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 jacksyhoulahan


    Should be a great weekend in limerick.
    Munster are playing Friday nite in thomond and aussie rulles saturday nite in gaelic grounds.
    Bring it on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭User Friendly


    lukin wrote: »
    The Aussies may not send their best players. It's a long trip and they don't see it as that important. Taking the first test to Limerick is sign of the GAA trying to generate flagging interest
    :rolleyes:

    the first test was du to take place 12 months ago in limerick........ where you get the notion that there is flagging interest?? :rolleyes:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Strong rumour down the Kingdom is that Kerry players will be boycotting the team over Anthony Tohill's disgraceful carryon on the Sunday Game this year. I hope the Australians land them their arse on a plate tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Strong rumour down the Kingdom is that Kerry players will be boycotting the team over Anthony Tohill's disgraceful carryon on the Sunday Game this year. I hope the Australians land them their arse on a plate tbh.
    Christ, for the most successful county in Gaelic football, you sure are one helluva bitter bunch.

    Grow a pair and get over it. Every county have had their gripes with officialdom this summer (some more than others) but you're beginning to sound like a broken record.

    If Kerry players decide not to play that's their loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭lukin


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Strong rumour down the Kingdom is that Kerry players will be boycotting the team over Anthony Tohill's disgraceful carryon on the Sunday Game this year. I hope the Australians land them their arse on a plate tbh.

    Disgraceful as in pointing out when a player does something wrong on the pitch? I would have thought that would come under "just doing his job".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    I'm going to make a night out in Limerick out of this. Sure to be a bit of an experience.

    Any ideas when the panel will be announced?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Strong rumour down the Kingdom is that Kerry players will be boycotting the team over Anthony Tohill's disgraceful carryon on the Sunday Game this year. I hope the Australians land them their arse on a plate tbh.

    that rumour has been going for the last two months and tbh, it doesn't matter a damn if they do or not. If they don't want to represent their country because of what a pundit rightly pointed out, then leave them off.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    lukin wrote: »
    Disgraceful as in pointing out when a player does something wrong on the pitch? I would have thought that would come under "just doing his job".

    Disgraceful as in pointing out a particular player when several were at it, also completely ignoring the aggression shown by Eoin Cadogan and completely vilifying Paul Galvin and calling for him to be suspended. The CCCC subsequently suspended him in a trial by Media which cost Kerry dearly in our next Match against Co. Down and as the season panned out cost Kerry a certain All-Ireland title.

    The man is not fit to be a Television pundit and clearly not to lead the national team after such diatribe filled outburst of jealous hate against the best team in the country at the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭lukin


    Stinicker wrote: »
    the aggression shown by Eoin Cadogan
    Give me an example.
    Stinicker wrote: »
    cost Kerry a certain All-Ireland title.
    Can I borrow your crystal ball for the lotto this weekend?
    Stinicker wrote: »
    outburst of jealous hate against the best team in the country at the time.
    Laughable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    I thought this thread was about the international rules series?! This paul galvin thing has been done to death on this forum this year :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭muincav


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Disgraceful as in pointing out a particular player when several were at it, also completely ignoring the aggression shown by Eoin Cadogan and completely vilifying Paul Galvin and calling for him to be suspended. The CCCC subsequently suspended him in a trial by Media which cost Kerry dearly in our next Match against Co. Down and as the season panned out cost Kerry a certain All-Ireland title.

    The man is not fit to be a Television pundit and clearly not to lead the national team after such diatribe filled outburst of jealous hate against the best team in the country at the time.

    You really do need to get a grip -honestly I would love to see both the above players on the team and they should be honoured to be picked to play for their country. Also, Anthony Tohill was only doing his job and I applaud him for it. Fans from most counties in Ireland will have a gripe with one or other of the RTE panelists or commentators (me included-cant stand O Rourke...lol) but you have to move on and pick the best team possible and not many know more about the Internationl Rules code better than Anthony Tohil as he was ONE of the greatest players of the the game, along with the likes of, Dermot Mc Nicholl, Seamus Moynihan (the best ever) Jack O Shea, Sean Marty Lockhart and Graham Geraghty (controversial...I know) just to name a few.
    I have followed this Code since the 80s and really enjoy it and in my opinion, several great players have opted out of the series for different reasons, whether it be injury or work commitments over the years, but in this day and age there should be NO reason apart from injury to turn your back on your National Team, so pick the best players and let them go out and beat the Aussies and keep the grudges for off the sports field.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    muincav wrote: »
    You really do need to get a grip -honestly I would love to see both the above players on the team and they should be honoured to be picked to play for their country. Also, Anthony Tohill was only doing his job and I applaud him for it. Fans from most counties in Ireland will have a gripe with one or other of the RTE panelists or commentators (me included-cant stand O Rourke...lol) but you have to move on and pick the best team possible and not many know more about the Internationl Rules code better than Anthony Tohil as he was ONE of the greatest players of the the game, along with the likes of, Dermot Mc Nicholl, Seamus Moynihan (the best ever) Jack O Shea, Sean Marty Lockhart and Graham Geraghty (controversial...I know) just to name a few.
    I have followed this Code since the 80s and really enjoy it and in my opinion, several great players have opted out of the series for different reasons, whether it be injury or work commitments over the years, but in this day and age there should be NO reason apart from injury to turn your back on your National Team, so pick the best players and let them go out and beat the Aussies and keep the grudges for off the sports field.

    Every single sport has it own unique type of politcs, and GAA is no different.

    Why should the Kerry players play under a man who so clearly hates their county with Jealousness? It is the Aussies we are talking about here and the International rules, we are hardly going to be playing England or France are we? It is really meaningless and basically an excuse for the GAA lads to get a free trip to Australia, (having been there myself I'd be up for that anytime).

    For the Australians it is chance to heal wounds after their season and keep their professional athletes in good spirits, it also proves a great poaching opportunity to harvest Irish talent.

    Basically its a sham and to play for your country against jumped up Aussie thugs under a manager who has more respect for the opposition than players from a certain country. NO THANKS!!! Let the Cork boys take their place, they are after all the number one team in the country now. Tohill is a disgrace and should resign having brought not only the International rules but the All-Ireland Championship for 2010 into disrepute and utter disgrace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭User Friendly


    lukin wrote: »
    Give me an example.

    Can I borrow your crystal ball for the lotto this weekend?

    Laughable

    check out youtube,you will find plenty of examples there.

    just a word on Paul Galvin........ anyone in PUC for the replayed cork/Kerry game this summer?
    Never,ever in all my years of going to GAA games have i heard such booing of an amateur player as i heard that day when Paul came on as a sub.Would these same people who booed him do a turnabout and cheer him on in the Gaelic grounds??? No chance...... as whatever Paul does will always be wrong or not good enough in some peoples eyes.

    If Galvin doesn't want to play for Ireland under Tohill,then i certainly wouldn't blame him,Tohill should have known better!
    I'm sure the players who are chosen to play will give their all for the cause.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭Coddlemonster


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Every single sport has it own unique type of politcs, and GAA is no different.

    Why should the Kerry players play under a man who so clearly hates their county with Jealousness? It is the Aussies we are talking about here and the International rules, we are hardly going to be playing England or France are we? It is really meaningless and basically an excuse for the GAA lads to get a free trip to Australia, (having been there myself I'd be up for that anytime).

    For the Australians it is chance to heal wounds after their season and keep their professional athletes in good spirits, it also proves a great poaching opportunity to harvest Irish talent.

    Basically its a sham and to play for your country against jumped up Aussie thugs under a manager who has more respect for the opposition than players from a certain country. NO THANKS!!! Let the Cork boys take their place, they are after all the number one team in the country now. Tohill is a disgrace and should resign having brought not only the International rules but the All-Ireland Championship for 2010 into disrepute and utter disgrace.

    There will be Kerry players on the panel, they wouldn't be as bitter as yourself thankfully. Although the Gooch doesn't fancy the rough stuff... actually when you think about it after the Gooch who else would make the panel? Not many I'm afraid, there's Tommy walsh, now an AFL player who's made himself available but after that there are not that many Kerry players suitable to this game ATM.
    As for your rant about the game in general I'm amazed that you have such insight into the Aussie psyche, and slagging off one the games all time greats in Tohill, because he said enough is enough when one of your players(i'm assuming your a
    from Kerry) gouged a corkman - it's laughable really.
    Overall your comments expose your lack of knowledge - very poor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    This whole series is much ado about nothing. The equivalent of a friendly in rugby/soccer. A chance to go out and have a few beers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭muincav


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Every single sport has it own unique type of politcs, and GAA is no different.

    Why should the Kerry players play under a man who so clearly hates their county with Jealousness? It is the Aussies we are talking about here and the International rules, we are hardly going to be playing England or France are we? It is really meaningless and basically an excuse for the GAA lads to get a free trip to Australia, (having been there myself I'd be up for that anytime).

    For the Australians it is chance to heal wounds after their season and keep their professional athletes in good spirits, it also proves a great poaching opportunity to harvest Irish talent.

    Basically its a sham and to play for your country against jumped up Aussie thugs under a manager who has more respect for the opposition than players from a certain country. NO THANKS!!! Let the Cork boys take their place, they are after all the number one team in the country now. Tohill is a disgrace and should resign having brought not only the International rules but the All-Ireland Championship for 2010 into disrepute and utter disgrace.

    You really are a bitter person! Pat Spillane has been running down other counties in the GAA for years-as has Brolly and O Rourke!
    I think anyone as bitter as you probably would not take the only chance they may ever have to turn out for their country, but I dont believe the Kerry players will do that...I dont think the Gooch should be picked as he done more diving in the championship than Ronaldo, plus the Aussies wouldnt let him away with the nasty digs he gives from behind-at least Galvin is man enough to stand up to them...
    I cant wait to be watching the finest Footballers in the country play against the Aussies, but I take it that you WONT be watching.You will probably be on boards.ie wondering why no one is replying to your bitter over the top rants about a game you dont even like....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Swoosh


    check out youtube,you will find plenty of examples there.

    just a word on Paul Galvin........ anyone in PUC for the replayed cork/Kerry game this summer?
    Never,ever in all my years of going to GAA games have i heard such booing of an amateur player as i heard that day when Paul came on as a sub.Would these same people who booed him do a turnabout and cheer him on in the Gaelic grounds??? No chance...... as whatever Paul does will always be wrong or not good enough in some peoples eyes.

    If Galvin doesn't want to play for Ireland under Tohill,then i certainly wouldn't blame him,Tohill should have known better!
    I'm sure the players who are chosen to play will give their all for the cause.

    Galvin's antics generate the dislike for him. You wouldnt have heard Tomas O Se, Donaghy, gooch being booed like that because despite
    what they do when they cross the line to win, Galvin takes things beyond all that is considered reasonable.

    noone doubts his ability. bu his behaviour is unbecoming of someone playing at that level for a proud football county


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Every single sport has it own unique type of politcs, and GAA is no different.

    Why should the Kerry players play under a man who so clearly hates their county with Jealousness? It is the Aussies we are talking about here and the International rules, we are hardly going to be playing England or France are we? It is really meaningless and basically an excuse for the GAA lads to get a free trip to Australia, (having been there myself I'd be up for that anytime).

    For the Australians it is chance to heal wounds after their season and keep their professional athletes in good spirits, it also proves a great poaching opportunity to harvest Irish talent.

    Basically its a sham and to play for your country against jumped up Aussie thugs under a manager who has more respect for the opposition than players from a certain country. NO THANKS!!! Let the Cork boys take their place, they are after all the number one team in the country now. Tohill is a disgrace and should resign having brought not only the International rules but the All-Ireland Championship for 2010 into disrepute and utter disgrace.


    Stiniker, what age are you? 12? The Sunday Game must be past your bedtime so I'll let you know what actually happened:

    The presenter controls the flow of the programme and asks the questions not the pundits. Whilst analysing the Cork/Kerry match he asked all 3 pundits namely Tohill, Colm O'Rourke and Tomas O'Flaharta (from guess where? Kerry) their opinion on the Galvin incident.

    All 3 pundits including O'Flaharta gave their honest opinion that Galvin's actions had been unacceptable. Tohill neither brought the subject up nor condemnned Galvin anymore than the other pundits.

    We can only surmise as to why Tohill has been singled out. I suppose it beats admitting that one of your own has done wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭Frogdog


    Stinicker, I am going to say this to you as a fellow Kerryman, so know that this is not an attack on where you're from, but an attack on your posts/opinions in this thread;

    You're giving me a headache.

    This year we have been shown to be ungraceful in defeat (Jack O' Connor's pre-match interview against Down), not willing to accept punishment despite being caught on camera (Galvin) etc. etc. And now you're bringing more wrath on us. We all know Galvin was guilty and deserved to be suspended, but this tit-for-tat attitude of "Well if Galvin is to be banned then so is Cadogan" is tiring. And don't get me wrong, I firmly believe Cadogan should have been banned as well, and plenty of Cork people I know agree with me, but whether he should be banned or not should not directly affect us and we should not be getting involved. This year we should've concentrated on ourselves, as we usually do, and not get caught up in whether a player from another team should be banned or what a pundit on tv said about one of our players.

    On topic, for the poster who said there wouldn't be anyone from Kerry on the team on merit (I'm paraphrasing) then you might need your head examined. Tadgh Kennelly should be a definite on the starting team. Tommy Walsh should be a cert for the squad, and would be a close call to be on the starting team in my opinion. Some may disagree as he hasn't made the breakthrough over there, but when he was over here he was unstoppable. Tomás O Sé is another definite for me. Doubt the likes of Marc O Sé, Gooch or Declan O' Sullivan, while all fine footballers, are cut out for this game. As a bit of a wildcard pick I'd like to throw forward the name Mike McCarthy - anyone agree/disagree??? Age isn't on his side but he's strong as an ox and reminds me of a poor man's Seamus Moynihan/Kieran McGeeney (and that's not a bad thing to be called that!).

    As for whether Galvin decides to make himself available/is not picked/whatever, I hope he is asked and I hope he makes himself available and all this debate about Tohill/Galvin is put to bed and Galvin goes out and tears the Aussies a new one!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭lukin


    Surely Kennelly should not be picked after his act of thuggery on Nicholas Murphy in last year's AI final?
    Thankfully there are no Cork players in the squad,I'm sure they would have found it difficult to stomach playing on the same team as that fella.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    lukin wrote: »
    Surely Kennelly should not be picked after his act of thuggery on Nicholas Murphy in last year's AI final?
    Thankfully there are no Cork players in the squad,I'm sure they would have found it difficult to stomach playing on the same team as that fella.

    You need to have a certain level of skill, which alot of that team does not possess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭Frogdog


    lukin wrote: »
    Surely Kennelly should not be picked after his act of thuggery on Nicholas Murphy in last year's AI final?
    Thankfully there are no Cork players in the squad,I'm sure they would have found it difficult to stomach playing on the same team as that fella.

    First off, Cork and Down players will be included later on. As both teams are this year's finalists they get a bit of a rest.

    Secondly, you're giving me a headache too.

    But I'll agree with you when you say that Cork lads wouldn't have the stomach for a game where Kerry are involved.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 ballybunionlad


    Cork players are definitely taking part.


    In an interview with the Irish Times today Daniel Goulding said he's looking forward to being involved with the panel and representing his country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭lukin


    Stinicker wrote: »
    You need to have a certain level of skill, which alot of that team does not possess.

    Yes, the 19 Sept last proved that.:rolleyes:
    As for the other poster's childish remark about Cork not having the stomach for a game where Kerry are involved; maybe the Kerry players will object to playing with Tyrone as they haven't had the stomach for them either.
    By the way, if Kennelly is playing then Goulding and co. should just ignore him IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭Frogdog


    lukin wrote: »
    Yes, the 19 Sept last proved that.:rolleyes:
    As for the other poster's childish remark about Cork not having the stomach for a game where Kerry are involved; maybe the Kerry players will object to playing with Tyrone as they haven't had the stomach for them either.
    By the way, if Kennelly is playing then Goulding and co. should just ignore him IMO.

    We don't object to having any other county's players as our team mates, you're the one that brought that up. Anyway, aren't we all from the one country - Ireland - and neither Kerry nor Tyrone people believe they belong to their own special "People's Republic", so why shouldn't fellow countrymen get along?

    As for your proposed ignoring of Tadhg by Cork players, I thought I was the one with the childish remarks..........??? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭lukin


    Frogdog wrote: »

    As for your proposed ignoring of Tadhg by Cork players, I thought I was the one with the childish remarks..........??? :rolleyes:

    I don't think there would be anything childish about ignoring "Tadgh" at all. It would be pure hypocrisy for Goulding or any of the Cork lads to stretch out a hand and say "put it there boy" after what he did.
    I wouldn't say the Kerry lads are too pleased with him either; he came over here just to get his AI medal, blackened the name of Kerry football and then hared off back to Oz after saying he would stay. Seems a right self-serving individual to me.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    New jersey 62992_10150090864928502_350398153501_7403816_7131526_n.jpg

    Considering it was on TG4 on Sunday, wasn't kept a great secret!

    Kennelly is playing and tbh I don't think there will be any childish goings on with regards him and the Cork lads, they are there to play for their country as a team. Link Looking forward to seeing Gary Ablett playing thought! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Ian_K


    Michael Shields trained with the squad last week, Goulding had a club championship game on saturday so didnt go - Ciaran Sheehan was also involved with that so not sure yet if he's going to be part of the international rules set-up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Gipo3


    O'Neills still dont know its called the "International Rules".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭Frogdog


    lukin wrote: »
    I don't think there would be anything childish about ignoring "Tadgh" at all. It would be pure hypocrisy for Goulding or any of the Cork lads to stretch out a hand and say "put it there boy" after what he did.
    I wouldn't say the Kerry lads are too pleased with him either; he came over here just to get his AI medal, blackened the name of Kerry football and then hared off back to Oz after saying he would stay. Seems a right self-serving individual to me.

    Here I was thinking my fellow Kerryman on this thread was being petty going on and on about Galvin's trial by media this year!!!

    Build a bridge, get over it. That was last year. Ye're champions this year - go out and celebrate and stop living in the past.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    lukin wrote: »
    I don't think there would be anything childish about ignoring "Tadgh" at all. It would be pure hypocrisy for Goulding or any of the Cork lads to stretch out a hand and say "put it there boy" after what he did.
    I wouldn't say the Kerry lads are too pleased with him either; he came over here just to get his AI medal, blackened the name of Kerry football and then hared off back to Oz after saying he would stay. Seems a right self-serving individual to me.

    The Cork guys aren't gonna be buddy buddy with him, but they will play with them. They do realise that players do stupid things during games, yes he should have been sent off, no he wasn't, yes Kerry beat us last year but this year we are champions, and I think the Cork lads are bigger men that to keep a petty grudge!
    Frogdog wrote: »
    Here I was thinking my fellow Kerryman on this thread was being petty going on and on about Galvin's trial by media this year!!!

    Build a bridge, get over it. That was last year. Ye're champions this year - go out and celebrate and stop living in the past.

    Dead right!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭muincav


    Gipo3 wrote: »
    O'Neills still dont know its called the "International Rules".

    Sent O Neill's and e-mail just to let them know, and this was the reply...(didnt know they were based in Belfast now?)
    by the way-there should be a free jersey for the poster who noticed the mistake...but this is Ireland and you only get it free if your a banker-(I said banker, so that rules out Stinicker...lol)

    "Hi,
    Thank you for your comments. I can confirm the range has been changed to Ireland GAA International Rules. This was a typing error by the technical team when uploading the ad/jersey and we would like to apologise for any inconvenience caused.
    Best Regards
    Leanne McGonigle
    Internet Sales -O Neill's"


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