UFO invasion? Have they decided to make contact?

demonspawn

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My name is URL

Some of those videos are of fallstreak holes.. a type of cloud

Not sure what to make of the other ones tbh!

Torakx

Aliens will have to land outside my home and walk over and shake my hand or shoot me with a laser pew pew before i believe they are near earth.
For me its all top secret government stuff.

demonspawn

My name is URL wrote: »

Some of those videos are of fallstreak holes.. a type of cloud

Not sure what to make of the other ones tbh!

A fallstreak hole (also: hole punch cloud, punch hole cloud, canal cloud) is a large circular gap that can appear in cirrocumulus or altocumulus clouds. Such holes are formed when the water temperature in the clouds is below freezing but the water has not frozen yet due to the lack of ice nucleation particles. When a portion of the water does start to freeze it will set off a domino effect, due to the Bergeron process, causing the water vapor around it to freeze and fall to the earth as well. This leaves a large, often circular, hole in the cloud.

I find that quite hard to believe when this information comes not from NASA, or from the NCDC, but from the "Cloud Appreciation Society". Search "fall streak cloud", "fall streak hole", or whatever else in the NCDC database and tell me what comes up. Don't be so gullible.

It is believed that a disruption in the stability of the cloud layer, such as that caused by a passing jet, may induce the domino process of evaporation which creates the hole. Such clouds are not unique to one geographic area and have been photographed from the United States to Russia

Or UFO seems to be more likely.

Aliens drawing pictures on a foggy window.

Duiske

demonspawn wrote: »

Aliens drawing pictures on a foggy window.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=66208738#post66208738

Wonder if its the same artistic "Aliens" who were over Waterford / Wexford last June ?

Don't be so gullible.

LOL !!!

demonspawn

Duiske wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=66208738#post66208738

Wonder if its the same artistic "Aliens" who were over Waterford / Wexford last June ?



LOL !!!

Wow, if these things are so rare then why are they showing up all over the world and why only now? Why are they all roughly the same size? Where is there any information about them from NASA, the NCDC, or any other governmental body?

Who's the gullible one? Wake up.

profitius

demonspawn wrote: »

Wow, if these things are so rare then why are they showing up all over the world and why only now? Why are they all roughly the same size? Where is there any information about them from NASA, the NCDC, or any other governmental body?

Who's the gullible one? Wake up.

Indeed. If people say this is natural then they should have plenty of pictures of it happening previously.

My name is URL

demonspawn wrote: »

I find that quite hard to believe when this information comes not from NASA, or from the NCDC, but from the "Cloud Appreciation Society". Search "fall streak cloud", "fall streak hole", or whatever else in the NCDC database and tell me what comes up. Don't be so gullible.



Or UFO seems to be more likely.

Aliens drawing pictures on a foggy window.

Why are UFO's more likely to have caused them? I mean I'd love to believe that we are being visited but obviously jets are the most likely cause of that phenomenon.

And watching that video filmed from the aircraft, it looks like it's the reflection in the glass of a light inside of the plane

Duiske

profitius wrote: »

Indeed. If people say this is natural then they should have plenty of pictures of it happening previously.

When in doubt......

http://www.google.ie/images?source=og&q=fallstreak&hl=en&ned=en_ie&tab=ni&biw=1024&bih=560

Su Campu

demonspawn wrote: »

I find that quite hard to believe when this information comes not from NASA, or from the NCDC, but from the "Cloud Appreciation Society". Search "fall streak cloud", "fall streak hole", or whatever else in the NCDC database and tell me what comes up. Don't be so gullible.



Or UFO seems to be more likely.

Aliens drawing pictures on a foggy window.

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap040112.html (ie. NASA)

demonspawn

My name is URL wrote: »

Why are UFO's more likely to have caused them? I mean I'd love to believe that we are being visited but obviously jets are the most likely cause of that phenomenon.

And watching that video filmed from the aircraft, it looks like it's the reflection in the glass of a light inside of the plane

Perhaps if you accepted the fact that UFOs are real and have been seen by many military personnel then if wouldn't be so hard to understand.

Did you not watch the video of a UFO shooting an ICBM with some kind of laser? I'll post it again.

demonspawn

Torakx

Ok i can admit they are UFO's but humans inside or remote comtrolled is my oppinion so far.
That is the most logical explanation.Second to that i would consider an advanced race besides human.
Consider the stories back in the 40's? of the bell type saucers that were supposedly made by the nazis.
I find it alot more likely they invented a new means of propulsion rather than an alien species came down/got shot down and yielded new technology yet we still dont see them today some 70 odd years later.
What are the chances its aliens and what are the chances its humans?
I do think its possible this planet was visited long ago.But its debateable still.

gizmo

demonspawn wrote: »

Did you not watch the video of a UFO shooting an ICBM with some kind of laser? I'll post it again.

That's actually a really interesting video. There's clearly something there alright but the question is what. I'd err more on the side of the US testing their own technology on itself to see could it be defeated rather than aliens of course but it's an interesting video nonetheless.

demonspawn

gizmo wrote: »

That's actually a really interesting video. There's clearly something there alright but the question is what. I'd err more on the side of the US testing their own technology on itself to see could it be defeated rather than aliens of course but it's an interesting video nonetheless.

It may very well be human technology at work. Either way, they are clearly lying to us. As such, I am forced to disbelieve everything they tell us until it is proven to be the truth.

By the way, my 12 guests are back. I guess one isn't at his computer yet, lazy bugger. :rolleyes:

Priori

It's very difficult to know just what's going on in relation to the UFO phenomenon, especially when it's complicated by (some would say compounded by, others would say corroborated by) the claims made by so-called Alien abductees.

Open as many of them are to a wide array of very different, and decidely more earth-bound explanations, I would still hesitate before ascribing it all to self-generated (and perhaps culturally-generated) fantasy/confabulation. John E. Mack's work is a point in case.

demonspawn

Priori wrote: »

It's very difficult to know just what's going on in relation to the UFO phenomenon, especially when it's complicated by (some would say compounded by, others would say corroborated by) the claims made by so-called Alien abductees.

Open as many of them are to a wide array of very different, and decidely more earth-bound explanations, I would still hesitate before ascribing it all to self-generated (and perhaps culturally-generated) fantasy/confabulation. John E. Mack's work is a point in case.

Good for you. Well, you go find out what these UFOs are and come back and enlighten us. The U.S. military (well most of it apparently) has no idea what they are.

demonspawn

Gizmo, here's another interesting video you might enjoy. No commentary so you can decide for yourself what it may be. Description of the video is in the info on the actual Youtube page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQH7qJDgcpc

demonspawn

Is this positive evidence of extraterrestrial lifeforms?

demonspawn

NASA footage of UFOs in space and also observing the shuttle landing.

gizmo

demonspawn wrote: »

It may very well be human technology at work. Either way, they are clearly lying to us. As such, I am forced to disbelieve everything they tell us until it is proven to be the truth.

Probably for good reason though, if it was aliens and they announced it it would probably cause mass panic. If it was their own tests then it's probably experimental technology they don't want released yet. Either way I think it's knowledge best kept to themselves for now.

demonspawn wrote: »

By the way, my 12 guests are back. I guess one isn't at his computer yet, lazy bugger. :rolleyes:

There's 23 guests on my screen now, maybe they're preparing to track you down so they can silence you.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=67941341

demonspawn wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQH7qJDgcpc

As for this video, it seems less credible. The surrounding area of the crash site implies the trajectory of the object was extremely steep since there no impact trail. Given the lack of any kind of fire damage, it's unlikely it passed through our atmosphere unless the object could absorb and dissipate massive amounts of heat through it's surface. Therefore it would have to have been in within our atmosphere. In this case, in order to be embedded into the ground so deeply, it would have to either have been traveling at an extremely high speed or is extremely heavy. The former is odd since why would one want to travel at a high speed towards the ground at that trajectory and the latter doesn't make sense given the soldiers in the picture were able to move a chunk of it with relative ease.

It just doesn't make much sense unfortunately.

demonspawn

gizmo wrote: »

Probably for good reason though, if it was aliens and they announced it it would probably cause mass panic. If it was their own tests then it's probably experimental technology they don't want released yet. Either way I think it's knowledge best kept to themselves for now.

I think we've gone beyond the stage of panic. Most people I know are quite comfortable with the idea of ETs and some, like myself, actually welcome the idea of them.

There's 23 guests on my screen now, maybe they're preparing to track you down so they can silence you.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=67941341

Maybe.

As for this video, it seems less credible. The surrounding area of the crash site implies the trajectory of the object was extremely steep since there no impact trail. Given the lack of any kind of fire damage, it's unlikely it passed through our atmosphere unless the object could absorb and dissipate massive amounts of heat through it's surface. Therefore it would have to have been in within our atmosphere. In this case, in order to be embedded into the ground so deeply, it would have to either have been traveling at an extremely high speed or is extremely heavy. The former is odd since why would one want to travel at a high speed towards the ground at that trajectory and the latter doesn't make sense given the soldiers in the picture were able to move a chunk of it with relative ease.

It just doesn't make much sense unfortunately.

When an airplane goes out of control it can nosedive into the ground. That's not too hard to believe. You are looking at this with only your knowledge of how our aircraft work. This is alien technology so it's safe to assume it works completely different from what we know. Perhaps it was shot down by the USSR and this crew is picking up the wreckage. If it was shot down it could have just flipped like a coin until it crashed into the ground.

I don't know so I wouldn't like to speculate how it got there, but it is quite obviously there none the less. Did you watch the Mexican alien video? Pretty strange stuff.

Sparticle

I like TorakX will believe in aliens when I shake one of their hands (or tentacles). I thought UFO meant unidentified flying object not I dont know what it is therefore it is an alien spacecraft.

demonspawn

Sparticle wrote: »

I like TorakX will believe in aliens when I shake one of their hands (or tentacles). I thought UFO meant unidentified flying object not I dont know what it is therefore it is an alien spacecraft.

Good for you. Hopefully it won't be much longer. They are showing themselves more and more every year. I won't be surprised if we make contact in this lifetime to be honest.

I don't blame you for being skeptical, it's a strange feeling and we don't know if these are good guys or bad guys. If they were bad guys though, I think they'd just come down and start blasting War of the Worlds style.

Jeboa Safari

demonspawn wrote: »

Good for you. Hopefully it won't be much longer. They are showing themselves more and more every year. I won't be surprised if we make contact in this lifetime to be honest.

I don't blame you for being skeptical, it's a strange feeling and we don't know if these are good guys or bad guys. If they were bad guys though, I think they'd just come down and start blasting War of the Worlds style.

What if they needed to use the planet, wouldn't make sense to potentially destroy it.

Anyway, I think alot of ufo cases are our own military tests. Some are intriguing though.

gizmo

demonspawn wrote: »

I think we've gone beyond the stage of panic. Most people I know are quite comfortable with the idea of ETs and some, like myself, actually welcome the idea of them.

Most normal people. What happens when you get Alex Jone-esque people screaming that they're going to destroy us? Also what happens when religious zealots start up in a similar vein?

Personally if there are visiting us then hopefully they've had a nice sit down with our leaders and discuss the situation before hand just so that when the nutjobs come to protest at them they'll realise they don't represent humanity as a whole.

demonspawn wrote: »

When an airplane goes out of control it can nosedive into the ground. That's not too hard to believe. You are looking at this with only your knowledge of how our aircraft work. This is alien technology so it's safe to assume it works completely different from what we know. Perhaps it was shot down by the USSR and this crew is picking up the wreckage. If it was shot down it could have just flipped like a coin until it crashed into the ground.

Most of my assumptions were made on basic physics though including the state of the surrounding ground and vegetation, the only human technology aspect was the heat absorption which would excuse only one of the problems with the crash site. If the Russians did shoot it down then they would have been at the site soon after which would preclude the possibility that it had been there for long enough for the vegetation to grow back.

demonspawn wrote: »

I don't know so I wouldn't like to speculate how it got there, but it is quite obviously there none the less. Did you watch the Mexican alien video? Pretty strange stuff.

The Mexican video seemed extremely fake, the reaction of the guys in it seemed fake as did the noise the "alien" made, which doesn't sound like it was captured using the same sound equipment. Also, the only "Area 51 Productions" I can find online are a Washington-based film production company.

demonspawn

gizmo wrote: »

Most normal people. What happens when you get Alex Jone-esque people screaming that they're going to destroy us? Also what happens when religious zealots start up in a similar vein?

Personally if there are visiting us then hopefully they've had a nice sit down with our leaders and discuss the situation before hand just so that when the nutjobs come to protest at them they'll realise they don't represent humanity as a whole.

I'm sure they're intelligent enough to know that some of us are just assh*les are should largely be ignored.

Most of my assumptions were made on basic physics though including the state of the surrounding ground and vegetation, the only human technology aspect was the heat absorption which would excuse only one of the problems with the crash site. If the Russians did shoot it down then they would have been at the site soon after which would preclude the possibility that it had been there for long enough for the vegetation to grow back.

Perhaps our basic laws of physics are inaccurate. We don't know everything there is to know about our universe yet so it's understandable that our "laws" are just nor correct or only relate to the physics on earth.
I don't know enough about physics to speculate though. I also don't know enough about what the Russians were up to but that video has been independently verified to be a top secret KGB film.

The Mexican video seemed extremely fake, the reaction of the guys in it seemed fake as did the noise the "alien" made, which doesn't sound like it was captured using the same sound equipment. Also, the only "Area 51 Productions" I can find online are a Washington-based film production company.

The video was overdubbed with audio, as you can tell by the news reporter talking at the start, so you can't judge it from the additional sounds that were added. The actual video images themselves seem to be very authentic.

demonspawn

Ben Rich Lockheed Skunk Works CEO had admitted in his Deathbed Confession that Extraterrestrial UFO visitors are real and the U.S. Military travel among stars.

“We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkCrHyCrKk8

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/33001/UFO_Alien_Metepec_Mexico_Medical_Analisys/

Soveriegn

I like to think those cloud formations are the result of cloaked UFO's. I blelieve aliens are and have been on earth for a decades (not including reptilians). Probably works like it did in "the next generation" tv show, they are not allowed to interfere unless the majority want them to.
The money hungry power driven fockers in control wont let it happen..

gizmo

demonspawn wrote: »

I'm sure they're intelligent enough to know that some of us are just assh*les are should largely be ignored.

Well a showing of violence from a race of people with a violent past never looks good. Plus, one could say the human race is intelligent enough to know some people are just assholes yet look at the number of people whose attitudes towards Islam have changed since the attacks.

demonspawn wrote: »

Perhaps our basic laws of physics are inaccurate. We don't know everything there is to know about our universe yet so it's understandable that our "laws" are just nor correct or only relate to the physics on earth.
I don't know enough about physics to speculate though. I also don't know enough about what the Russians were up to but that video has been independently verified to be a top secret KGB film.

Well yes, this crash was on earth therefore it would have been subject to our laws of physics. I'm specifically referring to the affects of the crash on the surrounding area, I'm perfectly happy to put the scorch marks issues aside as that would be dependent on, as I said before, the material the craft as made out of.

Got a link to the verification?

demonspawn wrote: »

The video was overdubbed with audio, as you can tell by the news reporter talking at the start, so you can't judge it from the additional sounds that were added. The actual video images themselves seem to be very authentic.

Even discounting the audio I find the video to be quite the opposite of authentic unfortunately. It looks more like mediocre CGI work imo.

demonspawn wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkCrHyCrKk8

Fake.

demonspawn

gizmo wrote: »

Well a showing of violence from a race of people with a violent past never looks good. Plus, one could say the human race is intelligent enough to know some people are just assholes yet look at the number of people whose attitudes towards Islam have changed since the attacks.

Nope. Millions of people came out after the attack to protest the war with Iraq. I was at one of those protests. I think that showed them that the majority of this planet loathe war and wish it never happened. I think they're here to help us make sure all wars come to an end permanently. The George Bushs and Tony Blairs of this world have gone mad with power and they need to be stopped. The ETs may have the power to stop them.

Well yes, this crash was on earth therefore it would have been subject to our laws of physics. I'm specifically referring to the affects of the crash on the surrounding area, I'm perfectly happy to put the scorch marks issues aside as that would be dependent on, as I said before, the material the craft as made out of.

Got a link to the verification?

I meant the craft was build with a much higher understanding of physics. We don't know how it crashed or when it crashed so we cannot speculate about the surrounding vegetation etc. I'll try to find the video from the documentary which this clip was featured in. It explains who verified the reels.

Even discounting the audio I find the video to be quite the opposite of authentic unfortunately. It looks more like mediocre CGI work imo.

Well, that's your opinion. I'm trying to find if any video experts have verified it.

Fake.

And tries to defend himself:

“I must say I didn’t claim it was real. That was Maussán who claimed it was real. He believed it. All the show was a hoax that got out of control, but after four years I’m happy to see one of my creations going around the world and through many scientists and and they still haven’t figured out what it is. I may have fooled science! LOL”

You're going to believe to word of a man that uses "LOL" at the end of his sentence? That admission was the fake, not the corpse. You don't think that the scientists who thoroughly examined that creature would have seen that it was fake? They even took CAT scans of the thing ffs!! Not a fake, just more misinformation.

gizmo

demonspawn wrote: »

Nope. Millions of people came out after the attack to protest the war with Iraq. I was at one of those protests. I think that showed them that the majority of this planet loathe war and wish it never happened. I think they're here to help us make sure all wars come to an end permanently. The George Bushs and Tony Blairs of this world have gone mad with power and they need to be stopped. The ETs may have the power to stop them.

It still doesn't change the fact that violence is part of human nature, something that anyone looking at our history as a species will be able to identify.

demonspawn wrote: »

I meant the craft was build with a much higher understanding of physics. We don't know how it crashed or when it crashed so we cannot speculate about the surrounding vegetation etc. I'll try to find the video from the documentary which this clip was featured in. It explains who verified the reels.

Cool thanks, more info would definitely be appreciated. As it stands all we can do is make an evaluation based on the video and as I stated, it doesn't look like a case of a UFO.

demonspawn wrote: »

Well, that's your opinion. I'm trying to find if any video experts have verified it.

Again I'm basing my opinion on the movie and what I know of video production effets. If it was verified then there is no way in hell it wouldn't have been picked up by at least one national TV station.

demonspawn wrote: »

You're going to believe to word of a man that uses "LOL" at the end of his sentence? That admission was the fake, not the corpse. You don't think that the scientists who thoroughly examined that creature would have seen that it was fake? They even took CAT scans of the thing ffs!! Not a fake, just more misinformation.

I'd tend to believe the post more than some of the facts I've read about the case.

Most notably:

If it was an alien then why would it be dumb enough to get caught in that kind of trap?
How did he drown it while it was in the trap?
If he did manage to drown it in the trap then why is it's body in such a position?
There's no way in hell the avid "UFO hunter and leading researcher" Maussan would keep the creature in a safe after acquiring it.
Why hasn't he said what labs he sent it too so they can be verified?
If it has stumped some scientists in Mexico then why hasn't it gained international exposure?

Anyway, it seems like there's a Monster Quest episode about it so I'm going to give that a watch later.

demonspawn

Well to be honest man, I don't want to waste any more time trying to convince a skeptic of this. I've provided videos that you can check out yourself. If you're really interested then I'm sure you'll be keen enough to research all this for yourself.

If you're just pretending to be interested just so you can keep trying to debunk these videos then I'm gonna just stop talking and keep posting more videos. No offense but I'm just sick to death of these debunkers who refuse to believe what's in front of their faces.

Actually, either way I'm gonna stop talking as this thread is just so I can embed videos of UFOs and alien encounters. If anyone else wants to debate the videos feel free. I'm done debating with people on this forum.

alastair

Soveriegn wrote: »

I like to think those cloud formations are the result of cloaked UFO's. I blelieve aliens are and have been on earth for a decades (not including reptilians). Probably works like it did in "the next generation" tv show, they are not allowed to interfere unless the majority want them to.
The money hungry power driven fockers in control wont let it happen..

Yeah - when will the Man give an honest joe alien a break!?

gizmo

demonspawn wrote: »

Well to be honest man, I don't to waste any more time trying to convince a skeptic of this. I've provided videos that you can check out yourself. If you're really interested then I'm sure you'll be keen enough to research all this for yourself.

If you're just pretending to be interested just so you can keep trying to debunk these videos then I'm gonna just stop talking and keep posting more videos. No offense but I'm just sick to death of these debunkers who refuse to believe what's in front of their faces.

I've expressed interest in some of your videos as I find that they look legit and warrant further investigation. Other videos looked far more fake and I've pointed it out based on the facts presented within. You can't just take everything at face value, for instance, if you had cut up elements of the movie Paranormal Activity you could easily convince someone that the casts house was indeed haunted, we know far better of course. Same goes for some elements of The Fourth Kind, which some people initially thought was actually based on a true story.

demonspawn wrote: »

Actually, either way I'm gonna stop talking as this thread is just so I can embed videos of UFOs and alien encounters. If anyone else wants to debate the videos feel free. I'm done debating with people on this forum.

I'm pretty sure the mods wont' take kindly to people simply posting videos and refusing to discuss them in threads.

demonspawn

gizmo wrote: »

I'm pretty sure the mods wont' take kindly to people simply posting videos and refusing to discuss them in threads.

Then report me, let's see what happens. You've been rumbled and now you want to make silly threats. I'm not a fool, so don't treat me like one.

demonspawn

Jeboa Safari

Can you post a basic description of the videos please?

demonspawn

demonspawn

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

Can you post a basic description of the videos please?

Read the top of the video, it's a basic description of the video. If you need more info then click the video again and it will take you to Youtube where you can check for more info. Grow up please.

gizmo

demonspawn wrote: »

Then report me, let's see what happens. You've been rumbled and now you want to make silly threats. I'm not a fool, so don't treat me like one.

I see no need to report you and I'm not making threats, this forum charter, like most on Boards specifically states you should be willing to discuss what you post:

This is not your personal blog. If you're not interested in discussing what it is that you post, then you probably shouldn't be posting it.

I have also not been rumbled in any shape or form, to repeat what I said before, you posted some videos I found extremely interesting which lead me to look into them more. You also posted some videos I didn't not believe were legitimate and commented as such. I, like most rational people, will not believe everything they see in a Youtube video.

The video you posted above is an excerpt from the Monster Quest documentary on The History Channel which I indicated I intend to watch soon to get some more info on the creature.

Smyth

gizmo wrote: »

That's actually a really interesting video. There's clearly something there alright but the question is what. I'd err more on the side of the US testing their own technology on itself to see could it be defeated rather than aliens of course but it's an interesting video nonetheless.

I've read about that story in more detail. That video is a "recreation" of the even that actually happened. It's not the actual video. It's all based on beardy mans memory of it.

I think it's a waste of time debating back and forth over videos and cloud rings etc. Read the 500 pages in the disclosure project. Watch the 2 hour conference. What more do you need? Lots of top ranking officials who's stories and backgrounds check out.

"oh i'll not believe until I shake hands with one lol"

You can't really argue with a mentality like that. I wouldn't even bother. Just trot along completely ignorant and bullheaded, totally dismissing the work and words of others because it shakes up the idea that a 9-5, pay your taxes and die lifestyle is as fantastical as the Universe gets. Have fun........lol

Soveriegn

alastair wrote: »

Yeah - when will the Man give an honest joe alien a break!?

I love you too Alice xxx

gizmo

Smyth wrote: »

I've read about that story in more detail. That video is a "recreation" of the even that actually happened. It's not the actual video. It's all based on beardy mans memory of it.

I think it's a waste of time debating back and forth over videos and cloud rings etc. Read the 500 pages in the disclosure project. Watch the 2 hour conference. What more do you need? Lots of top ranking officials who's stories and backgrounds check out.

Bummer on the video, it looked extremely promising. That being said, the testimony from the guys involved was certainly interesting enough to keep my eyebrow raised. I'll give the articles on The Disclosure Project a look anyway.

Smyth wrote: »

"oh i'll not believe until I shake hands with one lol"

You can't really blame people for being skeptical when there's so much obvious rubbish out there fighting for attention along with more believable material. Of course, the attitudes similar to your closing paragraph don't really help either.

Yitzhak Rabin

gizmo wrote: »

The video you posted above is an excerpt from the Monster Quest documentary on The History Channel which I indicated I intend to watch soon to get some more info on the creature.

If you do find this will you post the link here. I wouldn't mind looking at it.

namloc1980

demonspawn wrote: »

Looks like a small monkey caught in a trap. To believe this is an alien creature you must believe:

1. This alien (presumably from a technologically advanced race) was stupid enough to get caught in a basic foothold trap.
2. It's compatriots also didn't bother or were unable to free it.....presumably their advanced technology couldn't crack the complexity of a basic foothold trap!
3. The aliens then just left it there to die.

Riiiiiiight. I'll go with small monkey in a trap.

gizmo

yekahs wrote: »

If you do find this will you post the link here. I wouldn't mind looking at it.

It seems to be Season Three, Episode 21 "Terror From the Sky" if that's any help.

From reading about it thus far there does seem to be people who are miffed at how the scientists results were presented. Evidently they claim that they "couldn't extract identifiable DNA" which is twisted by the show into being "the DNA is unidentifiable", two very different things. This is why I asked why the guy who bought the corpse from the farmer decided to keep it in a safe where it decomposed before he brought it for testing.

namloc1980 wrote: »

Looks like a small monkey caught in a trap. To believe this is an alien creature you must believe:

1. This alien (presumably from a technologically advanced race) was stupid enough to get caught in a basic foothold trap.
2. It's compatriots also didn't bother or were unable to free it.....presumably their advanced technology couldn't crack the complexity of a basic foothold trap!
3. The aliens then just left it there to die.

Riiiiiiight. I'll go with small monkey in a trap.

The scientists in the MQ episode discount the monkey idea based on the fact that it's feet are smaller than a typical primate. The animal was also initally thought to be skinless but they also deduced that he had a thin lair of hairless skin. Your other points are similar to what I brought up earlier though and I'm hoping some of them are addressed in the full episode.

Torakx

demonspawn wrote: »

Well to be honest man, I don't to waste any more time trying to convince a skeptic of this. I've provided videos that you can check out yourself. If you're really interested then I'm sure you'll be keen enough to research all this for yourself.

If you're just pretending to be interested just so you can keep trying to debunk these videos then I'm gonna just stop talking and keep posting more videos. No offense but I'm just sick to death of these debunkers who refuse to believe what's in front of their faces.

Actually, either way I'm gonna stop talking as this thread is just so I can embed videos of UFOs and alien encounters. If anyone else wants to debate the videos feel free. I'm done debating with people on this forum.

Sorry i used to be enthusiastic about this stuff.Lately i guess i have other interests holding my attention and without the enthusiasm i lack the imagination and want to consider the other possibilities.
maybe thats a good thing.
I see strange things but just lately dont wish to associate strange thing with alien.Would rather concede to UFO because nobody has proven aliens are inside them and nobody has a proven piece of photo of any alien near this planet that isnt a hoax for sure.
It appears to be more advantageous to the gorvernments to have people believe its UFO's and also i think alot of abductions might be psychiatrists implanting these stories or even CIA or soem other org doing it to victims.