Savages coming to a neighbourhood near you soon

Deacon

Savages coming to a neighbourhood near you soon. So here goes the very latest news from Fairview Cresent Garryowen, Limerick. The main family responsible for terrorising the folks that currently reside at Fairview Cresent and the other 20 families rendered homeless, beause of the fear and intimidation imposed upon them by these savages. Instead of being sent to jail and been evicted like any other normal socities response to illegal behaviour, instead are in fact being REWARDED.What does that mean? It means that all the Einsteins's in our Limerick City Council have decided to buy this family a 5-6 bedroom home in an exclusive neighbourhood in Limerick. Sounds like a case of Limerick justice to me.

MESSAGE HERE: Bully, terrorise, intimidate, and threathen innocent peoples on a daily basis to the point they fear for their life's and move,then you will be rewarded by our City Councilmen. Inevitably these people will end up in an area where hard working families in Limerick, who have worked real hard to get at the point there at. The area is a status to some of us , a measure of reward for the hard work we put in to be at a stage to make a purchase of such a home. This family could be your neighbour very soon. What are you going to do about it? Answer, absolutely nothing. Why? Because they are protected by a City Council, Inadequate politicians, Powerless Police Force, Outdated Laws and Leaderless Judges. They have beat the system and they will continue to wreak havoc on any neighbourhood they set their foot inside.

Middle class neighbourhood folks: Contact your TD Peter Power immediately, he has established himself as a die hard, to protect the middle class punters house values from any undesirables moving within miles of your vacinity. Lets actually move these savages next door to Peter. See how successful his life becomes. Wake up Limerick residents or it will be way too late. Here is the scenario that faces us: House prices in decline and the majority of families burried in negative equity and the Council on top of all that decide to shove some unruly savages responsible of causing 20 families to be rendered homeless in the backdoor of our estates. This will certainly have an even greater effect on our estates with regard to values. It makes absolutely no sence to me. Does something about this ring anybody else the wrong way?

Deacon

campo

I fully understand where your post comes from Deacon and I would not want them living beside me that is for sure.
But and here is the problem I think they have to live somewhere the council can just dump them on the street or put them on 1st place to Uzbekistan no matter how much we might like that done.
So unfortuantly for some family they will probably have to live next door to these savages as you call them.

wildefalcon

Its a real problem that Irish Society hasn't yet faced up to:

How do we, as a society, deal with individuals who persistently reject the values of our society?

Especially when our society (rightly) believes in giving individuals many chances to embrace those values?

Moving these individuals isn't the answer. Removing them from society, and educating them as to the needs, responsibilities and obligations necessary for society to work is a better option.

But that takes courage and leadership, but we don't have any, and we don't elect committed high quality people of integrity, or courageous leaders.

So, until we, as a society, forward and elect strong, courageous individuals, with integrity and the willingness to make tough decisions, we will just have to suffer.

Meh.

Jofspring

Where can they go?

Jail for the ones causing the problems would be a start.

Thing about this that annoys me the most is this affects the genuine and nice people in regeneration areas that are looking to be re-homed as it further adds to the stigma a lot of people already have about them being put into different estates.

molard

Deacon wrote: »

Savages coming to a neighbourhood near you soon. So here goes the very latest news from Fairview Cresent Garryowen, Limerick. The main family responsible for terrorising the folks that currently reside at Fairview Cresent and the other 20 families rendered homeless, beause of the fear and intimidation imposed upon them by these savages. Instead of being sent to jail and been evicted like any other normal socities response to illegal behaviour, instead are in fact being REWARDED.What does that mean? It means that all the Einsteins's in our Limerick City Council have decided to buy this family a 5-6 bedroom home in an exclusive neighbourhood in Limerick. Sounds like a case of Limerick justice to me.

MESSAGE HERE: Bully, terrorise, intimidate, and threathen innocent peoples on a daily basis to the point they fear for their life's and move,then you will be rewarded by our City Councilmen. Inevitably these people will end up in an area where hard working families in Limerick, who have worked real hard to get at the point there at. The area is a status to some of us , a measure of reward for the hard work we put in to be at a stage to make a purchase of such a home. This family could be your neighbour very soon. What are you going to do about it? Answer, absolutely nothing. Why? Because they are protected by a City Council, Inadequate politicians, Powerless Police Force, Outdated Laws and Leaderless Judges. They have beat the system and they will continue to wreak havoc on any neighbourhood they set their foot inside.

Middle class neighbourhood folks: Contact your TD Peter Power immediately, he has established himself as a die hard, to protect the middle class punters house values from any undesirables moving within miles of your vacinity. Lets actually move these savages next door to Peter. See how successful his life becomes. Wake up Limerick residents or it will be way too late. Here is the scenario that faces us: House prices in decline and the majority of families burried in negative equity and the Council on top of all that decide to shove some unruly savages responsible of causing 20 families to be rendered homeless in the backdoor of our estates. This will certainly have an even greater effect on our estates with regard to values. It makes absolutely no sence to me. Does something about this ring anybody else the wrong way?

Deacon

are you banned on limerick blogger .

Jumpy

Unless you specify the 'neighbourhood' and provide proof then all this is just hot air.
Especially since you only have one post.

acalmenvoy

Jumpy wrote: »

Unless you specify the 'neighbourhood' and provide proof then all this is just hot air.
Especially since you only have one post.

In fairness to the OP, without seeing the proof of what he says, I can see this happening, it wouldn't suprise me.
God help that neighbourhood.

hightower1

Put them in the same areas that they seem to fit in with, slap them in a nice council house beside some of the other "colourfull" families in moyross? Let them annoy each other.

In fact lets not stop there, lets vet everyone living in moyross , take the respectable and decent folk out and set THEM up in nice digs elsewhere. Use the vacant space for the likes of the savages and let it all devolve slowly.

We can expect a steady decrease in populous within the first three years through murder etc then as they cross breed and increase again after that we can think of a more... ah hem... perminent solution.

um7y1h83ge06nx

I actually believe in something along the same lines, put all the trouble makers in one estate and move out the decent folk.

"Punish" trouble makers in other estates by moving them to this "bad" estate. At the same time allow people in the "bad" estate to move to other estates if they show signs of maturing and better behaviour with a probationary period in place.

The bad estate would probably be a ghetto of the highest order but at least the bad eggs would be all in the one basket and just harass one another. An estate with the minimum amount of access points would be ideal, allowing it to rapidly shut-down by the Gardai in times of trouble.

There are lots of decent folk putting up with sh*t from arseholes for too long.

And there's my right-wing thought of the day folks.

topper75

Even though I'm paying a mortgage, I'd be happy to see an honest regeneration family move in next to me, provided they were respectable and genuinely wanted a new start.

The family referred to here seem to be outside that bracket and I think protest would be justified.

um7y1h83ge06nx

The average scobe is pretty fascinating to watch sometimes.

A few days ago during lunch I came out of Arthurs Quay shopping on to Patrick Street. Anyway there was this female scobe walking in front of me with an umbrella. She was really doing the whole "tough man" thing, it was hilarious. The walk, spitting on the ground etc. Anyway when she was walking alongside the pharmacy windows there she put up her umbrella and started scraping/running the end of it along the windows.

Very small thing I know, but it got me thinking that this woman was older than me (probably early 30's) and if I did it even when I was a child my mother would have slapped me across the head. If I did it now I would expect people to think I was a little nuts. Just a pure attitude of boldness, quite hard to fathom really.

JerryHandbag

They should get Cork county council to build a nice house for them......on Spike Island

krudler

I've said it a million times, this city needs Batman.

topper75

Zachariah Gigantic Predator wrote: »

If I did it now I would expect people to think I was a little nuts.

These scobes ARE nuts I've always thought. Limerick is afflicted with huge numbers of people who actually belong in institutions. Our state taxpayer kitty can't afford to accomodate them in institutions, which is why you were witness to the anti-social umbrella show. Maybe next time she drops in with her medical card, she could get a 'special' injection.

Yeah I'm right wing; but look were lefty thinking got Limerick!

liammur

Deacon wrote: »

Savages coming to a neighbourhood near you soon. So here goes the very latest news from Fairview Cresent Garryowen, Limerick. The main family responsible for terrorising the folks that currently reside at Fairview Cresent and the other 20 families rendered homeless, beause of the fear and intimidation imposed upon them by these savages. Instead of being sent to jail and been evicted like any other normal socities response to illegal behaviour, instead are in fact being REWARDED.What does that mean? It means that all the Einsteins's in our Limerick City Council have decided to buy this family a 5-6 bedroom home in an exclusive neighbourhood in Limerick. Sounds like a case of Limerick justice to me.

MESSAGE HERE: Bully, terrorise, intimidate, and threathen innocent peoples on a daily basis to the point they fear for their life's and move,then you will be rewarded by our City Councilmen. Inevitably these people will end up in an area where hard working families in Limerick, who have worked real hard to get at the point there at. The area is a status to some of us , a measure of reward for the hard work we put in to be at a stage to make a purchase of such a home. This family could be your neighbour very soon. What are you going to do about it? Answer, absolutely nothing. Why? Because they are protected by a City Council, Inadequate politicians, Powerless Police Force, Outdated Laws and Leaderless Judges. They have beat the system and they will continue to wreak havoc on any neighbourhood they set their foot inside.

Middle class neighbourhood folks: Contact your TD Peter Power immediately, he has established himself as a die hard, to protect the middle class punters house values from any undesirables moving within miles of your vacinity. Lets actually move these savages next door to Peter. See how successful his life becomes. Wake up Limerick residents or it will be way too late. Here is the scenario that faces us: House prices in decline and the majority of families burried in negative equity and the Council on top of all that decide to shove some unruly savages responsible of causing 20 families to be rendered homeless in the backdoor of our estates. This will certainly have an even greater effect on our estates with regard to values. It makes absolutely no sence to me. Does something about this ring anybody else the wrong way?

Deacon

Correct.

We get no IDA jobs and investment into the region in 13 years and now they are going to ruin the middle class areas of raheen, castletroy, caherdavin and corbally. Limerick needed massive investment for regeneration to be a success.
Instead, no jobs, no investment, end result will be areas like raheen will need to be regenerated in about 20 years time.

Jumpy

Still no proof on how you know or which estate.

maggot12345

I don't know about the family the op is speaking about but this scenario does happen. A family in my estate in county limerick who have caused endless trouble in the town and in the estate have recently been given a span new house in another unsuspecting town in county limerick. They will do exactly the same there. They are rewarded for their behavior/given every state help going. It's ridiculous. :mad: But I'm glad they're gone.

MissHoneyBun

As someone about to teach in one of these very deprived areas, I find this whole situation in Limerick immensely saddening across the board. Unfortunately with such widespread social problems, there's no magic wand answer. It's only when individuals begin to take responsibility for themselves and their outlook that things can progress from there. You just have to be the change you want to see.

bigpink

MissHoneyBun wrote: »

As someone about to teach in one of these very deprived areas, I find this whole situation in Limerick immensely saddening across the board. Unfortunately with such widespread social problems, there's no magic wand answer. It's only when individuals begin to take responsibility for themselves and their outlook that things can progress from there. You just have to be the change you want to see.

I hate this "deprived area" term,all these "deprived areas" seem to have the best of sevices,schemes,programmes and funding

Fairview Cresent is a very new build area and look what is has become because of the scum that get rewarded

MissHoneyBun

bigpink wrote: »

I hate this "deprived area" term,all these "deprived areas" seem to have the best of sevices,schemes,programmes and funding

You tell that to the children who get sent to school without any lunch or can't do their homework because they haven't got a copybook.

Raiser

Deacon wrote: »

These are the very exact people that epitomize what is wrong with our society.

Can I take you literally and assassinate the LB Mods in order to create our own Utopia by the Shannon?

- I think your Shoulder Chips are skewing your perspective and that's throwing your judgements our of kilter and then ultimately your conclusions are as a consequence intrinsically flawed

flutered

i cannot quantify this but here goes, i an led to believe that in holland you get a house from the council corpo or whatever they are called, you misbehave you get moved, you misbehave the second time you are evicted on to the street, with your belongings and nobody gives a fcuk,

Wetbench4

flutered wrote: »

i cannot quantify this but here goes, i an led to believe that in holland you get a house from the council corpo or whatever they are called, you misbehave you get moved, you misbehave the second time you are evicted on to the street, with your belongings and nobody gives a fcuk,

Then they would all live on cruises street or william street, and the city centre would be a complete no go area.
I think they should build a rehabilitation/prison housing estate on some mountain out in county limerick. Build a housing estate then put up 30foot walls around it, and have the army guard the perimeter.Anybody who won't follow the rules of our society should not get one of OUR hard earned houses where NORMAL people live, but a shiny new one in this rehabilitation estate.Security tag everyone, and put them all on a curfew, check everyone entering and leaving the estate, and charge a quarter of their wages/dole for the house they are given.
Once these troubled families start to interfere with normal people around them, give them once chance as flutered was saying and after that, put them in the rehab estate or on the street. Thats the only solution i can think of off the top of my head, but i'm sure it would make them think twice.

bigpink

At least the army would earn their wages

jamezy

liammur wrote: »

Correct.

We get no IDA jobs and investment into the region in 13 years and now they are going to ruin the middle class areas of raheen, castletroy, caherdavin and corbally. Limerick needed massive investment for regeneration to be a success.
Instead, no jobs, no investment, end result will be areas like raheen will need to be regenerated in about 20 years time.

You are sadly on the money with that statement.

munstergirl

Rent allowance couple with 3 kids is €700, pretty much will get you a house in most parts of limerick.
Watch out for moving vans

Whatever they move i pity their poor neighbours.

bigpink

MissHoneyBun wrote: »

You tell that to the children who get sent to school without any lunch or can't do their homework because they haven't got a copybook.

Thats not a deprived area thats bad parents
I posted in a thread about Moyross its got facilities but people need to use them,but you get get the poor old talk

Report the parents if they arent feeding their kids

Insect Overlord

Deacon, keep your problems with other web-sites off this forum. Consider this your only warning. Post deleted.

Berty, thanks for posting that sound advice, but as it relates to the deleted post I have removed it.

Bigpink, I've removed your reply to Berty as it quotes a deleted post.

With regards to your feelings on the use of the term "disadvantaged area", I would like to ask you now to stop bringing it up at every available opportunity. You clearly have no understanding of how the term is used in an educational context. If you drag another thread off-topic by bringing it up again, I will ban you for trolling.

Everyone: stick to the original topic of discussion please. If anyone wants to soap-box or rant, consider starting a blog.

anti_c

we are one of the 20 familles hounded out of our home in fairview crestent garryowen it was sheer hell physical threats horrific intimidation damage to property we lived in fear all the time we had years of intimidation ant-social behaviour . it has being going on for 7 years and limerick city council done nothing to help us we cryed for help .how much more time dos limerick city council need .??????? done nothing to help the famillies of fairview crestent garryowen it has already had 7 years. maybe a other 7 years?????? of fairview hell.

Deacon

Anti C , I really feel sorry for the circumstances that you have unwillingly been forced to face. I am utterly ashamed and disgraced as a Citizen of this once great nation, of the systematic and beuracratic failures, bestowed upon Irish people like you. A nation that boasts of it's fighting spirit around the rest of the world, and where men once fought to make a differance for future generations. I am saddened to say that this is the future generation they were speaking about. The generation willing to forget the fight and plight of it's less fortunate citizens.

Please tell me more about your experiences? Did you ever call the gaurds on these people? If so what could did they do for you? Did you ever make complaints to the city council? If so how many and what was the response? What's your current situation? I can only begin to imagine the fear and helplessness that you must have felt leaving your home after having your life threathend? This behaviour warrants jail time.

It appears to me that we have some serious incompetent leaders. A leader is required in our government to be open and transparent with the public, so we can have this healthy dialoque as a society. Instead of these closed door sessions in City Hall by men and women who have entered into such an areana motivated by a status symbol. What the people need is transparancy and accountability on all issues from the City Council. Especially on circumstances like yours Anti -C, having been renedered homeless by a bunch of savages.

Anti C , I know the entities that are in place to support you like the City Council, Gaurds, and the Court System may have failed you (Clarify this point for me). In a time like this you need to reach for some higher power and connect. All the wisdom in the world could not prepare for a life shattering event that you and many families like you have experienced. Remember do not lose hope but gain strenght from your experience and know that there is still people out there willing to FIGHT FOR WHATS RIGHT. Anti -C I hold strong with you and for families just like yours all around our country. Keep fighting and do not give up or give in.

Deacon

Deacon

Very good