Richard Boyd Barrett

Lenny Lovett

I'm just listening to him on Newstalk now. I've never really taken him seriously but he seems genuine. At least he has the courage to speak his mind about what he believes in instead of all our current Politicians who bow to the party whip. Of course Marc Coleman is trying to belittle him with the Trotsky jibes.

Cookie_Monster

He's ****ing decrepit :mad:

That party does nothing but object to anything progressive anyone tries to do. One of my friends used to be vaguely supportive of him, did and interview with him for the college he was in and now can't stand the fool.

He's the Joe Duffy of politics
"Ah Richard, it just terrible, Richard, just terrible. Will ya do sumtin about Richard"

P. Breathnach

He is a fairly intelligent person, sincere and well-intentioned. He is also considerably more polite than the average politician.

It's a pity that he advocates policies that have no hope of being generally accepted, and that would probably cause chaos if they were accepted.

In short: good guy; bad policies.

Sergeant

P. Breathnach wrote: »

He is a fairly intelligent person, sincere and well-intentioned. He is also considerably more polite than the average politician.

It's a pity that he advocates policies that have no hope of being generally accepted, and that would probably cause chaos if they were accepted.

In short: good guy; bad policies.

Absolutely. I always get the same impression from Joe Higgins. The man is passionate, well-intentioned, honest, and not from the "cute hoor" school of political thinking.

But the policies are the type of far left claptrap that were last discussed and believed in the Socialist economics department of Northern English polytechnics in the early 70's.

Jeboa Safari

The only time I ever hear anything from Richard Boyd Barret, is some stupid load of nonsense from the latest protest he's found. He must be going for some kind of record attendence at protests

dynamick

Lenny Lovett wrote: »

At least he has the courage to speak his mind about what he believes in instead of all our current Politicians who bow to the party whip.

He couldn't find the courage to tell the electorate which party he stood for in the last election.

Of course Marc Coleman is trying to belittle him with the Trotsky jibes.

It's not an insult to say that his socialist workers party is Trotskyist.
http://www.swp.ie/trotsky-123/2796?size=preview

Their aim is to replace capitalism with the dictatorship of the proletariat.

timespast

dynamick wrote: »

He couldn't find the courage to tell the electorate which party he stood for in the last election.

It's not an insult to say that his socialist workers party is Trotskyist.
http://www.swp.ie/trotsky-123/2796?size=preview

Their aim is to replace capitalism with the dictatorship of the proletariat.

Capitalism is on it's knees but the old rhetoric of the SWP isn't the answer.

I'm most definitely left wing....... the alternative is the majority will be left behind.

Liam Byrne

Who ?

bijapos

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Who ?

Richard Boyd Barrett, a councillor for People before Profit. They have a few council seats in Dublin, more so in Dun Laoghaire. He is involved in the anti-war movement, Socialist Workers Party amongst others. You often see him at demos around Dublin, he is well known on the political scene here.

Di0genes

bijapos wrote: »

Richard Boyd Barrett, a councillor for People before Profit. They have a few council seats in Dublin, more so in Dun Laoghaire. He is involved in the anti-war movement, Socialist Workers Party amongst others. You often see him at demos around Dublin, he is well known on the political scene here.

He also doesn't advertise that his father is a extremely wealthy architect and property developer.

Lenny Lovett

Di0genes wrote: »

He also doesn't advertise that his father is a extremely wealthy architect and property developer.

Is that his fault?

Di0genes

Lenny Lovett wrote: »

Is that his fault?

No but you have to wonder when he'll quit this socialist nonsense and join the family business.

bullpost

I've always suspected that People Before Profit is the marketing dept. of the SWP.

Cookie_Monster

PBP recently:

Protest against Blair
Protest against rats in Dun Laoghaire
Protest in support of a family of scroungers who refused to pay their council rent
Protests to not demolish the old baths in Dun Laoghaire, but to leave them in place as a rotting hulk
Protests against the demolition of an old shed on Carlisle Pier that served no purpose and was contaminated by asbestos
Support of the illegally running Patton Flyer

I'm sure there's much more, but I do my best to try and avoid them

Lenny Lovett

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

PBP recently:

Protest against Blair
Protest against rats in Dun Laoghaire
Protest in support of a family of scroungers who refused to pay their council rent
Protests to not demolish the old baths in Dun Laoghaire, but to leave them in place as a rotting hulk
Protests against the demolition of an old shed on Carlisle Pier that served no purpose and was contaminated by asbestos
Support of the illegally running Patton Flyer

I'm sure there's much more, but I do my best to try and avoid them

And what have the mainstream parties given us recently? What have FF, FG, Labour or The Greens done lately? Keep pouring our hard earned into dead banks, cut back hospital and other services, increased the dole queues, imposed new taxes on an already hard pressed nation, allowed wholesale fraud within the financial and developer sectors etc etc. Regrding Boyd Barrett and his protesting, yes, I agree. Many of their protest causes wouldn't be my choice but, at least, he's not been sitting on his arris doing nothing like most of our over paid TDs have been.
I don't believe in Socialism. There's no examples of it being a long term success anywhere but the alternatives seem to have a limited life span too.

Di0genes

Lenny Lovett wrote: »

And what have the mainstream parties given us recently? What have FF, FG, Labour or The Greens done lately? Keep pouring our hard earned into dead banks, cut back hospital and other services, increased the dole queues, imposed new taxes on an already hard pressed nation, allowed wholesale fraud within the financial and developer sectors etc etc. Regrding Boyd Barrett and his protesting, yes, I agree. Many of their protest causes wouldn't be my choice but, at least, he's not been sitting on his arris doing nothing like most of our over paid TDs have been.

While latching onto the cause of the week marching up and down the street, while trying to flog copies of the socialist workers to 1st year arts students, has managed to achieve what?

Callan57

bijapos wrote: »

Richard Boyd Barrett, a councillor for People before Profit. They have a few council seats in Dublin, more so in Dun Laoghaire. He is involved in the anti-war movement, Socialist Workers Party amongst others. You often see him at demos around Dublin, he is well known on the political scene here.

Was he involved with the infamous Youth Defense gang at one time?

JonathanAnon

I think Coleman's point about "being rich enough that he can afford to be a socialist" has a lot to do with it. When asked about how he would tackle the 20Bn deficit, he didnt really have anything substantial, just alluded to cutting management/political earnings. He was pretty stumped when Coleman said to him that Karl Marx had proposed exterminating all people of Christian faith, including the Irish.

Lenny Lovett

JonathanAnon wrote: »

When asked about how he would tackle the 20Bn deficit, he didnt really have anything substantial, just alluded to cutting management/political earnings.

And what have the mainstream parties achieved on that issue? What have FF and the Greens achieved on that front, apart from landing us in it? What have Fine Gael and Labour proposed?

Madd Finn

Di0genes wrote: »

He also doesn't advertise that his father is a extremely wealthy architect and property developer.

Adoptive father. His natural mother is the gorgeous Sinead Cusack, a fact that is only too obvious if you compare their faces.

And OK, socialism is mad but can you honestly say that capitalism as practised by the Anglosphere in recent years isn't?

Lapin

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

PBP recently:
.....Support of the illegally running Patton Flyer......

You mean he is supporting an enterprising entrepreneur who identified a gap in the market by providing an efficient, clean, comfortable and reliable service between south Dublin and the airport.

Only in Ireland would someone providing welcome employment while offering his customers a choice be considered to be engaging in illegal activity by the pen pushing bureaucratic gob****es in the Dept of transport.

I don't agree with RBB on most issues, but i'm 100% behind him in his support for this particular example of free enterprise.

Cookie_Monster

Lapin wrote: »

You mean he is supporting an enterprising entrepreneur who identified a gap in the market by providing an efficient, clean, comfortable and reliable service between south Dublin and the airport.

Only in Ireland would someone providing welcome employment while offering his customers a choice be considered to be engaging in illegal activity by the pen pushing bureaucratic gob****es in the Dept of transport.

I don't agree with RBB on most issues, but i'm 100% behind him in his support for this particular example of free enterprise.

no I don't mean that at all, I meant what I ****ing said :rolleyes:

it was an illegal service, he refused the licence he was given and ran the service anyway. Aircoach went the legal route, got the licence and now operate a better, cheaper service despite the loses they had to suffer from illegal competition.

Lapin

I quoted what you "****ing" said.

Chill out.
I was simply responding with my interpretation of one of the few principles of RBB that I agree with.
I wasn't putting words in your mouth.

Dirk Gently

Callan57 wrote: »

Was he involved with the infamous Youth Defense gang at one time?

I'd be very surprised if he was tbh. Youth defence is a very right wing conservative catholic organisation, very much opposite to Barretts politics.

sceptre

Callan57 wrote: »

Was he involved with the infamous Youth Defense gang at one time?

Justin Barrett. Different guy.

Lapin

sceptre wrote: »

Justin Barrett. Different guy.

What ever happened to him, where is he now?

Callan57

sceptre wrote: »

Justin Barrett. Different guy.

Ah thanks for that ... you've relieved my tension headache

BKtje

Aircoach went the legal route, got the licence and now operate a better, cheaper service despite the loses they had to suffer from illegal competition.

Better? In what way?
Cheaper? I'm pretty sure it's not.

I actually voted for him last time around but have seriously reconsidered my position on him recently. Well let's not beat about the bush. He won't be getting my vote again (don't agree with his policies, i have no idea about the man himself).

Mister men

The guy is a hero in a world of corrupt (i'm alright jack) politics.

skearon

Lenny Lovett wrote: »

I don't believe socialism.

You're not alone

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Cookie_Monster

BKtje wrote: »

Better? In what way?
Cheaper? I'm pretty sure it's not.

I actually voted for him last time around but have seriously reconsidered my position on him recently. Well let's not beat about the bush. He won't be getting my vote again (don't agree with his policies, i have no idea about the man himself).

its 7 vs 8 or 14 vs 16 return
Better as it has many more departures, more modern, more comfortable coaches with Wifi and drops you closer to the terminal. Simples