magners irish team of the week

outwest

1 wilkonson
2 croinin
3 hagen
4 mick
5 hines
6 leamy
7 ronan, ofisa, changed my mind
8 wannerburg, meant to have a good game. only
9 stringer
10 keatly
11 howlett
12 niva
13 cave again didnt see him play
14 carr.
15 jones

any thaughts who might be there

Redsock

Two ulster players? They beat the ospreys.

outwest

i didnt see the game, but i read that them two had good games. il wait for some ulster lads to post there team.

Redsock

Alright this is my TOW:

1 wilkinson
2 fogarty
3 fitzpatrick
4 muller
5 hines
6 stevie ferris
7 ronan
8 pedrie
9 marshall
10 keatley
12 paddy Wallace ( replaced whitten and was excellent).
13 cave
11 carr
14 howlett
15 jones

thomond2006

Wilkinson
Cronin
Buckley (takes cover )
Muller
MOD
Ferris
Ofisa
Wannenburg
Marshall
Keatley
Carr
Wallace (I thought Tuitupou did well for Munster)
Ta'auso
Howlett
Jones

profitius

I didn't see all the games so I can't pick a team. Buckley had a super game though. He helped Munster win the scrum battle against a good Italian scrum and scored a try too.

Keatley could improve under Elwood this season. If he can be more consistant he won't be far from an Ireland place.

WOuld it be best to list just Irish qualified players?

Mr.Applepie

outwest wrote: »

8 wannerburg, meant to have a good game. only

He must have had a great game to get in there ahead of Heaslip. He dragged Leinster around the park for 60 mins before being taken off.

CatFromHue

here are two possible tries of the week

treviso v scarlets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbBQKFR0Rsk&feature=player_embedded

munster v aironi (skip to 30 seconds in)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEz34T_tvBs

outwest

Mr.Applepie wrote: »

He must have had a great game to get in there ahead of Heaslip. He dragged Leinster around the park for 60 mins before being taken off.

i didnt think jamie was that good

siltirocker

CatFromHue wrote: »

here are two possible tries of the week

treviso v scarlets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbBQKFR0Rsk&feature=player_embedded

munster v aironi (skip to 30 seconds in)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEz34T_tvBs

Keatley's at Connacht vs Dragons is in there too. Great try.

toomevara

Realise we're talking about the ML here but an honourable mention must go to Exeter's Gareth Steenson who by all accounts had an absolute stormer in the 10 berth for the chiefs against Gloucs last weekend...He was instrumental in their promotion last year and continues to improve, good to see another irish 10 making good. The Guardian made him their player of the weekend.

outwest

week 2 team of week

leinster front row
hines swift
ofisa diack sean o b
boss keatley
wallace bod
carr luke isa

thomond2006

Week 2

Healy
?
Ross
Ryan
Hines
Quinlan
Jennings
Diack
Boss
Madigan (Didn't see Connacht game but I'd say Keatley played well too)
Nacewa
Tuitupou
?
Carr
Fitzgerald

outwest

wilkonson
croinin
hagen
muller
doc
quinlan
ofisa
diack
tol
keatley
carr
tuitupou
cave
trimble
duffy

this is what i think was team of the week for week 3

thomond2006

Week 3

Du Preez
Cronin
Buckley
DOC
Muller
Ferris
Quinlan
Diack
Marshall
Keatley
Howlett
Tuitupou
Cave
Carr
Jones

outwest

week 4,

______ id go for wilkonson.
croinin. great game, nearly gave conancht a chance to win it.
buckley.
swift
doc
wallace
ofisa
mccormish
tol
rog
carr
mattews
mafi
murphy
duffy.

Diom

outwest wrote: »

week 4,

______ id go for wilkonson.
croinin. great game, nearly gave conancht a chance to win it.
buckley.
swift
doc
wallace
ofisa
mccormish
tol
rog
carr
mattews
mafi
murphy
duffy.

No Ulster lads?

outwest

was honig to put caldwell and wannerburg, paddy had an great game at 10 but rog was meant to be fantactic leinster back offered very little in attack,

thomond2006

Wilkinson
Cronin
Hagan
Caldwell
?
Leamy
Ofisa
Heaslip
Boss
Keatley
Carr
Matthews
Cave
Murphy
Duffy

jolley123

1. Van der Merwe
2. Cronin
3. Hagan
4. Swift
5. O'Driscoll
6. Ferris
7. O'Brien
8. Wannenburg
9. Marshall
10. O'Conner
11. Carr
12. Mathews
13. Cave
14. Trimble
15. Jones

Not really team of the week, more so the players i've been impressed with so far.

siltirocker

jolley123 wrote: »

1. Van der Merwe
2. Cronin
3. Hagan
4. Swift
5. O'Driscoll
6. Ferris
7. O'Brien
8. Wannenburg
9. Marshall
10. O'Conner
11. Carr
12. Mathews
13. Cave
14. Trimble
15. Jones

Not really team of the week, more so the players i've been impressed with so far.

How can you put O'Connor above Keatley at the moment? I don't see that at all and can't understand that conclusion! Argree with the rest maybe Ofisa for O'Brien and liking Buckley at the moment (but only marginally ahead of Hagan). Good selection.

outwest

de preez
flavin
hayes. he had a good game, :P
caldwell
hines
sean o b
ofisa
heaslip
ruan peirnear
rog
fitz
tuitupo
bod
johny murphy
duffy, very solid game in difficult conditions, could well surprise people this year

Podge_irl

outwest wrote: »

van de mere

The Leinster scrum got worse when he came on.

Risteard

Podge_irl wrote: »

The Leinster scrum got worse when he came on.

Agree. I'd nearly shove Sexton in there just for the impact he had when he came on tbh.

outwest

Podge_irl wrote: »

The Leinster scrum got worse when he came on.

sorry i meant de prrez, keep getting them saffa's mixed up

Podge_irl

Risteard wrote: »

Agree. I'd nearly shove Sexton in there just for the impact he had when he came on tbh.

Would almost be tempted myself. Showed more in 20 mins than ROG did in 80 anyway.

Seems harsh to leave out Leamy - he was Munster's best player by a distance. Could put him at 6 - didn't see Ofisa play though so can't really comment

PhatPiggins

DOC was the standout second row of the weekend for me by a distance

Caldwell is having a stormer this season but he wasn't in the Ulster 22 do you mean Touhy?

outwest

yes, not been a good week for faces with me,

sexton played 8 mins not 20

B0X

Sexton played 24 minutes.

thomond2006

Du Preez
Strauss
Hagan
Toner
Caldwell
Leamy (stick him at 6)
JOC (made an unreal impact in the 2nd half)
Heaslip
Pienaar
Sexton (yes I know he was a sub)
Carr
Tuitupou
BOD
Nacewa
Kearney

Dave_The_Sheep

Of the Irish out-halves (as in those from Ireland), Sexton had by far the most positive impact on the game that they were playing in. Keatley, O'Gara... who else?

It may have only been a short while, but it completely invigorated the Leinster backline (how much was due to Reddan as opposed to Sexton is up for debate). If we're talking only Irish 10's, then he has to get in there. If it's those playing for Irish teams, it still holds because Pienarr is a scrum half.

PhatPiggins

If you were picking the team tomorrow and basing it purely on games played so far this season then Keatley is the starting 10.

Dave_The_Sheep

Fair point, but the thread is "of the week" after all.

PhatPiggins

I'd still have Keatley in the team of the week. ROG was so so and Sexton was on for what 20 minutes and touched the ball maybe 6 times, made an impact but not enough to push himself ahead of Keatley who I thought played well in very difficult conditions in Cardiff.

Podge_irl

I think the point is that Sexton's impact was absurdly obvious. I'm a big fan of Keatley and would have him on the bench ahead of ROG. I don't see as much Connacht as I would of Leinster though so that's going to affect my opinion. Sexton's impact was insane though - Leinster were twice the team with him on.

thehighground

Podge_irl wrote: »

I think the point is that Sexton's impact was absurdly obvious. I'm a big fan of Keatley and would have him on the bench ahead of ROG. I don't see as much Connacht as I would of Leinster though so that's going to affect my opinion. Sexton's impact was insane though - Leinster were twice the team with him on.

I don't know if you have seen it or not, but in the interview for the Man of the Match Award, the interviewer credited Sexton with making a huge impact and BOD corrected her and said that Reddan was the one that made the major impact. (Reddan passed straight to O'Brien for the try).

He won't be anywhere if he can't kick.

Interview is at the end pf part 2.

http://beo.tg4.ie/main.aspx?content=265626038273

Podge_irl

I did see it actually. I would be of the opinion that Sexton made Reddan look good, but then BOD knows more than me. The loop move that Sexton made was the single best thing in that match though.

His not kicking is definitely a concern. It implies he wasn't fully fit and we need him fully fit to win next week.

thehighground

Podge_irl wrote: »

I did see it actually. I would be of the opinion that Sexton made Reddan look good, but then BOD knows more than me. The loop move that Sexton made was the single best thing in that match though.

His not kicking is definitely a concern. It implies he wasn't fully fit and we need him fully fit to win next week.

Reddan's service was so much better than Boss's which was dismal. The scrumhalf is now the most influential player on the pitch and why Ulster will continue to play Pienaar at 9.

Surely you must think that O'Brien's offload for BOD's try was the best single thing in the match? The loop move didn't get anywhere.

Podge_irl

thehighground wrote: »

Reddan's service was so much better than Boss's which was dismal. The scrumhalf is now the most influential player on the pitch and why Ulster will continue to play Pienaar at 9.

Surely you must think that O'Brien's offload for BOD's try was the best single thing in the match? The loop move didn't get anywhere.

It didn't get anywhere but it made yards and was impressive. It was the best backline move of the match. Either way Leinster were the only ones putting in backline moves which is a concern for Munster.

The scrumhalf situation in Leinster is weird. No matter who starts the replacement always seems to be better. I've seen Boss improve things and I've seen Reddan improve things. I think Reddan has better skills but Boss is more intelligent. Neither are perfect SHs though. There are no great Irish SHs which is a concern.

profitius

Sexton made a difference to Leinster when he came on and made an impact. Keatley had a quiet game for Connacht but did nothing wrong so its 50/50 IMO.

irishbucsfan

Podge_irl wrote: »

It didn't get anywhere but it made yards and was impressive. It was the best backline move of the match. Either way Leinster were the only ones putting in backline moves which is a concern for Munster.

The scrumhalf situation in Leinster is weird. No matter who starts the replacement always seems to be better. I've seen Boss improve things and I've seen Reddan improve things. I think Reddan has better skills but Boss is more intelligent. Neither are perfect SHs though. There are no great Irish SHs which is a concern.

Whoever comes on will always look better.

Reddan looked very poor the last time he started, far worse than Boss yesterday but against poorer opposition. He was excellent yesterday off the bench, I think he could do a great job from there for Leinster this season.

thomond2006

Magners Week 6

Hard to pick this week, Munster were playing against woeful opposition and the other 3 provinces were far from impressive.

Du Preez
Strauss
Ross
Toner
MOD
SOB
Wallace
Heaslip
Stringer
ROG
Fanning
McFadden
Earls
Howlett
Duffy

CouchSmart

thomond2006 wrote: »

Magners Week 6

Hard to pick this week, Munster were playing against woeful opposition and the other 3 provinces were far from impressive.

Du Preez
Strauss
Ross
Toner
MOD
SOB
Wallace
Heaslip
Stringer
ROG
Fanning
McFadden
Earls
Howlett
Duffy

Would have said Whitten personally. Thought both Leinster centres were poor this week.

irishbucsfan

thomond2006 wrote: »

Magners Week 6

Hard to pick this week, Munster were playing against woeful opposition and the other 3 provinces were far from impressive.

Du Preez
Strauss
Ross
Toner
MOD
SOB
Wallace
Heaslip
Stringer
ROG
Fanning
McFadden
Earls
Howlett
Duffy

Strong Ulster showing there

McIlwaine was at least 57x better than Fanning

CouchSmart

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Strong Ulster showing there

McIlwaine was at least 57x better than Fanning

Ye, though for a fairly unknown winger Fanning did all that was asked of him against Leinster.

Would also have Tuohy ahead of MOD.

irishbucsfan

CouchSmart wrote: »

Ye, though for a fairly unknown winger Fanning did all that was asked of him against Leinster.

Would also have Tuohy ahead of MOD.

Tuohy, Ferris and Pienaar all should be in there.

Best was excellent but so was Strauss tonight so that's a push

CouchSmart

Pienaar only wishes he could be Irish :P

As does Strauss actually, maybe one day.

And Howlett and Du Preez, I thought this was Irish team of the week or is it players playing for Irish teams

thomond2006

Du Preez
Strauss
Ross
Nagle
Hines
Dom Ryan
Ronan
Coughlan
Pienaar (I admit I well overrated Strings last night. If you take out the goalkicking and the hospital pass at the end, Pienaar did well enough. No real standouts though)
Warwick
Carr (Beat 3 players to set up a try apparently.)
Dineen
Murphy (no standout here either)
Conway
Nacewa (honourable mention to Adam D'Arcy)

outwest

strauss is playing very well of late. imo if he went back to south africa he could very well push for a place in the team

PhatPiggins

outwest wrote: »

strauss is playing very well of late. imo if he went back to south africa he could very well push for a place in the team

With all due respect he would in his hole. He'd do well to hold down a starting spot for a S14 team. Watched the Currie Cup final today and there were 3 better hookers on display then him.

He might be a good player with time but ML and international standard are worlds apart.

lologram

outwest wrote: »

strauss is playing very well of late. imo if he went back to south africa he could very well push for a place in the team

He also said in an Irish Times interview 2 weeks back that he wasn't really all that interested in going back to SA and that he didn't enjoy the setup when he was there. It's not like it's a legal undertaking not to go back, but it pretty much shows where he stands on it. And he's already halfway to qualifying for Ireland