Construction Studies project (merged)

enaeknala1

Hey everyone im repeating my leaving and wondering what construction project I should make? I made a bench last year, turned out well but loads off work.

Thinking along da lines of a jewelery box?

Any suggestions? Thanks!

ciano1

I did a model of a house

Digits

A coffee table. :P

Our teacher says pick something different to what people in your class are doing and something you can write a lot about in the portfolio and that wont take forever to make.

I would tell you what I'm doing but I just know everyone will copy my idea its that good.haha

enaeknala1

haha go on tell us??

Thinking bout a small chess table now! With like drawers and stuff for holding the pieces!

enaeknala1

ciano1 wrote: »

I did a model of a house

Not too fond of the idea of a heritage project for some reason! Think day look savage but alot of research and work more so dan a craft project! my opinion anyway!

tomtom101

Hey, for my constrction project i made a model of a timber frame wall... Keep in mind i never did woodwork befor 5th year and i got an A1!! Make sure to have a good write-up for whatever you do!!

I'm trying to upload a pic but it wont let me!!!

ciano1

enaeknala1 wrote: »

Not too fond of the idea of a heritage project for some reason! Think day look savage but alot of research and work more so dan a craft project! my opinion anyway!

I didn't do a heritage project.. I just pulled some random dimensions out of me arse, built a model bungalow out of plywood and wrote up a VERY detailed portfolio!

tomtom101

HA!! Got the pic up!! :D:D ... Mine was eazy enough to build nd got me the grade:):):)!!!

Redzer7

Thinking of doing the Emirates stadium, made from timber with perspex glass around the outside


Placing the timber onto a green towel which will resemble the pitch,
obviously there will be more detail, does anyone think it would be possible?
Still no ideas for the seating?

tomtom101

Redzer7 wrote: »

Thinking of doing the Emirates stadium, made from timber with perspex glass around the outside


Placing the timber onto a green towel which will resemble the pitch,
obviously there will be more detail, does anyone think it would be possible?
Still no ideas for the seating?

In my opinion, this would be wayyyyy to hard and you'd have to be so careful with every detail to make it look good... think more simpley....

Liveit

Redzer7 wrote: »

Thinking of doing the Emirates stadium, made from timber with perspex glass around the outside


Placing the timber onto a green towel which will resemble the pitch,
obviously there will be more detail, does anyone think it would be possible?
Still no ideas for the seating?

I think its a really good idea. You will get great marks for originality and your teacher will probably be really interested in it aswell. It would make for a great portfolio. Remember just to keep things as simple as possible though.

johnmcdnl

don't make furniture - it'll have to be fecking class to get a good mark - try doing a project on renewable power, water systems, roofing, stairs or something like that...

that way you can fill a big huge brief up and make a small model to show something...

I got a B1 last year and I made a wind turbine out of a bottle of coke... took about 2-3 classes to put the yoke together and a good bit of copy and paste from the internet filled my brief out - would have been finished before the mocks but I was just a lazy fecker and sat around chatting in class rather than working but I was still the first in the class finished pretty much and it gave me loads of time to start practicing making joints and all that for the day practical and that really stood to me

I really hadn't a clue what was going on in the subject half the time but I think because I kept it pure simple and got a load of practice at making joints it helped me get the B1

I'd seriously recommend you thinking about something like that rather than the furniture

Redzer7 wrote: »

Thinking of doing the Emirates stadium, made from timber with perspex glass around the outside


Placing the timber onto a green towel which will resemble the pitch,
obviously there will be more detail, does anyone think it would be possible?
Still no ideas for the seating?

dear god don't do this - you will never get it done and you will fail if you even try to do this

don't do it - it isn't going to be worth it - just do something simple like a wall or a roof or something

what are you going to put in the brief for that like in fairness - you'd have to look at different ways to build the stadium then and unless your an engineer's son your gonna get it hard to find out what the advantage or disadvantage of building in steel rather than concrete say or whatever...

and because it's a whole stadium you'd have to look at EVERRYTHING...

just do something simple - seriously

that's something to do in your spare time with no brief needed - not something to do for your leaving cert project

do something else



saying that I can see how it'd get you an A if you do it well but unless you do it well your gonna have problems and seeing how most people acted in my class unless your a VERY diligent student and start working at it now and figure it all out early on and work at it through out the year your going to have problems making this particular project look good...

just think about it and know how your going to do it all before starting and maybe wasting 2-3 months making the base and then getting really badly stuck

maybe do a simpler stadium but remember your brief is going to have to explain why you picked X material for Y job and why not Z etc etc etc etc.... there's gonna be a lot of work in it but it really would look pretty damn good if you get it done



maybe do a simpler stadium that has no roof and is generally squarer like the Arthur Ashe stadium here... no rounded walls or roof needed so no tedious work needed to get the walls done

and it's still completely different -that'd be my suggestion

best of luck with whatever you do anyways

enaeknala1

tomtom101 wrote: »

HA!! Got the pic up!! :D:D ... Mine was eazy enough to build nd got me the grade:):):)!!!

Looks a very good project well done!

enaeknala1

Redzer7 wrote: »

Thinking of doing the Emirates stadium, made from timber with perspex glass around the outside


Placing the timber onto a green towel which will resemble the pitch,
obviously there will be more detail, does anyone think it would be possible?
Still no ideas for the seating?

Wow wouldnt advise it or have the balls to try it myself but really would look amazing if done well! Let us no if you end up doing it!

Cathald04

Emm my dad teaches this subject and i have seen a fair few projects and stuff . But a good one i have seen is a model of a foundation and a wall with radon barrier , concrete, dpc, insulation the rock. Another idea that i have had is that water tower on the m50 cause it contains a hyperbola and construction teachers love of such shapes

Dragonmanirl

Is anybody here doing anything about renewable energy, im doing construction but keeping my project a sworn secret, a friend in my class is doing solar panals and wondering how many of you are doing something along those lines?? p.s anybody who attempts a stadium, i wish you look, both in your project, write up and sanity

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Only starting construction this year (am a repeat:() and I was wondering what to do my project on?? My new teacher is a bit lazy and told me to do the historical one because its very little construction and a lot of writing up. Liked the idea as I have no experience in construction until he told me that what people do that dont have a clue do!! Now I dont want to do it because I fear the examiner will think the same way.

ajjmk

THFC wrote: »

Only starting construction this year (am a repeat:() and I was wondering what to do my project on?? My new teacher is a bit lazy and told me to do the historical one because its very little construction and a lot of writing up. Liked the idea as I have no experience in construction until he told me that what people do that dont have a clue do!! Now I dont want to do it because I fear the examiner will think the same way.

I had no woodwork experience whatsoever when I took up the subject for the LC. I had a sh1t teacher in 5th year who literally did nothing with us. By the time it came round to doing projects in 6th year I still had no woodwork experience at allll, so for my project I made the simplest thing I could think of - a model of a house! It was pretty much little bricks of MDF glued together, with a really good paintjob! That, along with a brutal day-practical, & a half decent written paper got me a B!

Shane101

ajjmk wrote: »

I had no woodwork experience whatsoever when I took up the subject for the LC. I had a sh1t teacher in 5th year who literally did nothing with us. By the time it came round to doing projects in 6th year I still had no woodwork experience at allll, so for my project I made the simplest thing I could think of - a model of a house! It was pretty much little bricks of MDF glued together, with a really good paintjob! That, along with a brutal day-practical, & a half decent written paper got me a B!

What level?

ajjmk

Shane101 wrote: »

What level?

Higher

MoyVilla9

Redzer7 wrote: »

Thinking of doing the Emirates stadium, made from timber with perspex glass around the outside


Placing the timber onto a green towel which will resemble the pitch,
obviously there will be more detail, does anyone think it would be possible?
Still no ideas for the seating?

I honestly think you are joking.

MoyVilla9

Furniture does not have to be amazing to get a good score. I think ye are asking for hardship doing the projects you're talking about.

jonaldinho

For my project I'm making a scale model of my house. It's going well but I'm stumped with the decision of what to use to give off the impression of slates on my roof. I could use cardboard strips and paint them but I was wondering does anyone have any other suitable suggestions?

dg647

Use modelling card, you will get it in any art supplies store.
Then mark out the slate on the card in pencil.
Once you have done this score along the lines with a Stanley knife but do not cut the whole way through.
Then paint the card.
When the paint dries the scores on the card will raise up giving the impression of slates.

Best of luck with it.

Trev64

Hey Jonaldinho,
I suggest that you use breakfast cereal boxes - the grey inside surface.

Mark a grid on the card - for example horizontal lines 12mm apart and vertical lines 8mm apart. Cut it into 12mm strips. Then cut along each 8mm line - only cut 8mm in length leave the last 4mm. The effect is like a row of teeth/gums.

Paint them next. When they're dry, glue them onto the roof - start at the eaves - ensure the 4mm part of each strip is overlapped by the row above so that only the 8mm 'slates' are seen.

The actual size you use for the grid depends on the scale of your model - the above sizes would suit a model scale 1:100.
Trevor

P.S. See the attached photo so an example of a student's version of this.
www.constructionstudies.ie

mullenman93

i am making a model cottage and i am getting it hard to find it hard to find something that would look like a thatched roof..any ideas

Griffen262

Might just throw this up.

Model house here also. Ready to render the outside wall soon, heard that sand and house paint mixed is usually the way to go, but tried it out on a small bit of ply and didnt look great tbh. Any other ideas or am i just doing it wrong?

mullenman93

well how do you create your own post on this all i can do is reply

Trev64

I've helped students with this several times over the years... the bad news is - it's difficult; the good news is - it's not impossible. Overall I have had the best results using natural bristle from an exterior masonry paintbrush. The sort of brush that's about 100mm wide and has long light brown coloured bristle.

Start by cutting it all off the brush - keep it in line though - don't let it fall into an untidy pile! Then cut 15mm wide strips of cereal box. Use All Purpose Glue to glue the bristle to the card so you have what looks like a long mustache.

When you have several strips ready you can start gluing them to the roof of the model. Start at the eaves - ensure the second row completely hides the cardboard on the first row - and so on...

For the ridge glue the bristle to the card so that the card is in a line down the middle of the bristles. When the glue has dried bend the card in the middle along its length - then glue it to the ridgeline.

Look at the example in the attached photo - this was made by a student of mine in UL. He used heavier 'thatch' but you should use the paintbrush bristle- it's a better scale material.

Trev64

Griffen262 wrote: »

Might just throw this up.

Model house here also. Ready to render the outside wall soon, heard that sand and house paint mixed is usually the way to go, but tried it out on a small bit of ply and didnt look great tbh. Any other ideas or am i just doing it wrong?

That method works - the sand needs to be very fine and dry though. Some people are fond of the 'spray on stone' paint but I'm not. Can't see how you could marks for using that - it's what I call a 'bought in solution'.

I prefer a compromise. You can buy a 'texture paint'. It's a white gritty paint that is best applied using a wide pallet knife or a piece of stiff card. Then yo paint over this to get the colour you want. It's a little easier than using sand and paint

Alternatively, use sand and PVA glue (normal wood glue) apply a fine coat of glue, sprinkle on the sand, allow to dry overnight and then paint it.

Griffen262

Trev64 wrote: »

That method works - the sand needs to be very fine and dry though. Some people are fond of the 'spray on stone' paint but I'm not. Can't see how you could marks for using that - it's what I call a 'bought in solution'.

I prefer a compromise. You can buy a 'texture paint'. It's a white gritty paint that is best applied using a wide pallet knife or a piece of stiff card. Then yo paint over this to get the colour you want. It's a little easier than using sand and paint

Alternatively, use sand and PVA glue (normal wood glue) apply a fine coat of glue, sprinkle on the sand, allow to dry overnight and then paint it.

Great! Thanks for that...love your book by the way :pac:

Trev64

Thanks if you like the book, you might like my new solutions: http://bit.ly/e5TlVH

Damo 2k9

So the deadline is the 29th, but I take it everybody will be on easter holidays so they have to be in on friday. Im making a rabbit hutch and im not nearly finished, have my brief pretty much done tho. I need to do the roof for it, 2 small doors for the front and just nail the floor of it on so i guess it wont take that long.

So is everyone finished or nearly finished ?

Ayrtonf7

Nearly finished.

Ive got a good bit of painting to to do, but yeah...Thats all I have left to do. I am doing my project on an eco friendly house. My model is a scaled down house with different energy saving building methods in it.

Also I thought the deadline was May 6th ?

citizen_p

Ayrtonf7 wrote: »

Nearly finished.

Ive got a good bit of painting to to do, but yeah...Thats all I have left to do. I am doing my project on an eco friendly house. My model is a scaled down house with different energy saving building methods in it.

Also I thought the deadline was May 6th ?

Im fairly sure deadline was the 6th too, probly just your teacher lying to avoid the last day rush.

see here
TimeTable

Damo 2k9

Yeh I read that on the internet but hes still insisting on having them in by tomorrow
We come back on the 3rd and they dont have to be back till the 6th

galwayman17..

THFC wrote: »

Only starting construction this year (am a repeat:() and I was wondering what to do my project on?? My new teacher is a bit lazy and told me to do the historical one because its very little construction and a lot of writing up. Liked the idea as I have no experience in construction until he told me that what people do that dont have a clue do!! Now I dont want to do it because I fear the examiner will think the same way.

PEOPLE your project is corrected by your teacher as the education system here believe that they can provide a better grade to you as they know how much work and effort was put into the project.

galwayman17..

Dragonmanirl wrote: »

Is anybody here doing anything about renewable energy, im doing construction but keeping my project a sworn secret, a friend in my class is doing solar panals and wondering how many of you are doing something along those lines?? p.s anybody who attempts a stadium, i wish you look, both in your project, write up and sanity

my project is on energy in the home. but mainly focuses on heat energy like underfloor heating and insulation and whatever.
P.S. you will gain more marks as lng as you accomplish what you are trying to make. that is what they want to see. and use plenty of pictures as evidence you did the project.

galwayman17..

are yere porfolios big? i dont have much of mine done so i have to do it all now?

galwayman17..

Griffen262 wrote: »

Might just throw this up.

Model house here also. Ready to render the outside wall soon, heard that sand and house paint mixed is usually the way to go, but tried it out on a small bit of ply and didnt look great tbh. Any other ideas or am i just doing it wrong?

hello mr griffen,
the method trevor described there works very well but also you should try using a thin coat of pollyfiller on your walls. this is delicate work but gives a great finish, when the pollyfiller is spread on the wall dab with a small piece of sponge to give it the rendered plaster effect (maybe let it dry a little before doing so) i think filler is €3.65 it doesnt cost much. just a lot of patience and time.
Best of luck,
Ruairi.

Ayrtonf7

Ive got a fair bit done on mine, but I need to do more...

Ayrtonf7

Well I am a construction studies student and Im just trying to improve my brief over the easter while I have time. I was hoping to get my hands on some of the previous marking schemes for the project/brief but I cant seem to find them online.

Would anybody be ale to help me ?

C__MC

What do you mean your teacher corrects them

Ayrtonf7

C__MC wrote: »

What do you mean your teacher corrects them

State Examiner corrects them ?

clonadlad

C__MC wrote: »

What do you mean your teacher corrects them

Your teacher grades your project. An external examiner then comes in and looks at the marks given by your teacher and can change them accordingly.

Ayrtonf7

clonadlad wrote: »

Your teacher grades your project. An external examiner then comes in and looks at the marks given by your teacher and can change them accordingly.

Are you sure ? that seems a strange way of doing it. As far as I knew an examiner comes in and goes through each project individually

clonadlad

Yes the examiner does look at every project but your teacher grades everyone first and then the examiner does his business at a later stage. A bit crazy really. I'm not sure if they do this in engineering or anything else.

NotExactly

clonadlad wrote: »

Yes the examiner does look at every project but your teacher grades everyone first and then the examiner does his business at a later stage. A bit crazy really. I'm not sure if they do this in engineering or anything else.

It's the same for Ag science. I don't really see the logic behind itTBH.

J_E

It's apparently for fair marking because your teacher will know if you bothered with it or not, so it's based on effort as well as technical skills.