Ubuntu 10.10

Stuxnet

gone in to beta 1 yesterday after 3 alpha's

anybody testing?

lucid beta was very solid last time and i ran it from the start, but i have no testing machine (old-laptop) now anymore thanks to my 2 1/2 year old ! so ill await final release

have installed some maverick features through some repos, running the new software center, and volume applet, both really nice

so whats the verdict...will it be the perfect 10.10 as shuttleworth claims !!

Eliot Rosewater

I might give this a twirl. As I've said before on this forum, 10.04 doesn't shut-down my computer, restarting instead, and this annoying error still has me on 9.10 despite my desire to upgrade. If the problem isn't fixed in 10.10 it's panic stations, with the updates on 9.10 running out in a few months.

Eliot Rosewater

Na, still restarts when I click shut-down.

The installer's been a little reworked. You now select your user-name and location etc after you select partitions, so it starts installing in the background while you put in these details.

I'll have to start giving serious consideration to the shut-down problem. Support for 9.10 ends this coming April.

Jonathan

I'll upgrade to Maverick but probably move to Squeeze when that gets released. I'm getting sick of adding PPAs.

bnt

That shutdown problem sounds weird. Can you shut down from a terminal? (sudo shutdown -h 0) If that also leads to a restart, I'd be wondering about ACPI settings or compatibility.

Stuxnet

did you file a bug, could be a hardware problem

ya good reports on the installer, with the option to add "non-free" codecs etc, great for new-comers

Zapho

iPwnage wrote: »

did you file a bug, could be a hardware problem

ya good reports on the installer, with the option to add "non-free" codecs etc, great for new-comers

Sweet, it was always a pain in the ass having to sort that out post-install. I can understand their reasons for leaving them out by default, but still.....

Stuxnet

ya its a good move, but i wonder can the option be included in magazine dvd versions of the distro ?

bnt

I have a Netbook (eeePC 1000. 8+32GB SSD), so I'm trying the Netbook Beta install at the moment. First time I've done a complete wipe of the system in 2 years, this time I totally wiped the partition tables. The Eee PC isn't the fastest thing out there, so I'm interested to see if I get any performance improvements out of Maverick. The new Netbook interface looks nice and simple, though it still runs on top of GNOME, so we'll see.

Edit: no, that hasn't gone well. It's booted, logged in OK, but as soon as I tried finding a terminal, it started thrashing itself in to a frenzy. Took 10 minutes to log in on tty1, which is logging "out of memory" messages. Had to restart GDM to get it back. This system has 1GB RAM, no swap (because it's SSDs). If this is more than a one-off, I'm going to start again with Xubuntu - or some other distro entirely.

Sherifu

Trying it out on my mini9 netbook over the past week, like what I see so far. No major bugs or headaches.

bnt

The eeePC has a Railink 2860 wireless chip, which was fine on 10.04, but has been giving me problems on 10.10b. The connection was flaky, yet always showing 100%, even when no traffic was getting through. (I think that's what's called a "regression".) So I installed the Railink driver according to this guide, which is better, and at least telling me what the connection is like. There's a kernel update in the repository, which I'll try in the morning.

FruitLover

I'm running the netbook edition. Interesting new menu system (Unity). Not sure I like it much yet, but I'll see how it goes...

bnt

I've gone back to Gnome, the Unity/Mutter Netbook interface just isn't working for me in beta. It's a resource hog, various bits crashing out and restarting, sluggish on this notebook. I'll try it again after 10.10 goes gold.

Stuxnet

tis out !

Jonathan

Looks like it has been ready since Thursday, but they waited until 10:10:10 GMT on 10/10/10 to release it.

aidan_walsh

Running through the desktop installer at the moment, which in itself has gotten a huge kick in the arse. Much, much nicer.

Bluefrog

Anyone thrown the RC or the full release on to an Acer Aspire one? If so, how did it work out. Have Mint 9 on mine at the moment but any kind of heavy network traffic via wi-fi and it crashes my UPC modem/router, which is a tad inconvenient. Shame because Mint runs very nicely otherwise.

Bluefrog

I'll answer my own question - ran the live version from an external usb drive - it ran fine with no wi-fi dropouts. Installed and all I get is a blinking curosr after the acer splash screen. Downloading the netbook version now but its slow going now the Americans are online.

Jonathan

Bluefrog wrote: »

I'll answer my own question - ran the live version from an external usb drive - it ran fine with no wi-fi dropouts. Installed and all I get is a blinking curosr after the acer splash screen. Downloading the netbook version now but its slow going now the Americans are online.

2.2GB of Ubuntu 10.10 seeded already today.

Bluefrog

Don't know what put it into my head but I decided to try another install of the desktop version of Meercat on my Acer Aspire One but without any SD cards inserted and lo and behold, the install worked perfectly.

I had one small issue with the mic working in Skype but a quick Google sorted that - the fix is to install the Pulseaudio volume control and then click on the 'Input' tab and set the left channel of the mic to 100% and the right channel to 17%.

Partner software channel looks a bit empty - no Java, Skype etc...

tman

Bit of a random (and extremely anal!) question here;

I've updated my work test PC using "update-manager -d" which went through without issue.
Now, whenever I SSH to it I get the following;

Ubuntu 10.10

Welcome to Ubuntu!
* Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/

Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS

Welcome to Ubuntu!
* Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/

658 packages can be updated.
0 updates are security updates.


Any ideas on how to get that to just show 10.10?

Jonathan

Ubuntu has some silly cron task to update /etc/motd if I remember correctly.

Disable it and edit motd to your taste.

loldog

Any noticed a faster boot time?

I've only tried it on a live USB - looks pretty slick and I like the improvements in the Software Centre. Computer Janitor still looks primitive and deadly, I don't know why they include it.

I'll probably stay with the LTS, but I would be interested in hearing how much faster the boot time is...

.

Jagera

Just installed 10.10 Netbook Edition on the Acer Aspire One.

I had to get around this issue.

So far (merely 15 mins) I still prefer the 10.04 interface. I don't like how longer application names are shortened: e.g. OpenOffice..rd Processor

anyway, I'll keep playing...........

EKRIUQ

I want to upgrade from 10.4 via the updates when will it be available?

Jonathan

$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-get upgrade
$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

EDIT:
If you don't like terminal:

EKRIUQ

Just won't upgrade I have all the latest updates from the update manager but no option for 10.10

Sparky

Anyone have a Samsung n150 with wireless issues on the netbook release?

Edit: appears to have sorted itself
Odd

aidan_walsh

EKRIUQ wrote: »

Just won't upgrade I have all the latest updates from the update manager but no option for 10.10

Some LTS releases might only check for new LTS releases as updates. You can check to see if this is happening and change it in System > Administration > Software Sources > Updates.

tman

EKRIUQ wrote: »

Just won't upgrade I have all the latest updates from the update manager but no option for 10.10

Press alt+f2 and type in "update-manager -d"

AntiRip

I was thinking putting the light version on my netbook long side windows 7. I find the netbook chokes on win7 sometimes.

I have no experience with ubuntu, do you have to have knowledge (terminals etc) to install/use it?

I'm even finding it hard to find a download?

5uspect

You can get it here:
http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook

You can also get a lot of distros from ftp.heanet.ie if you want a fast download.
The only issue I have with ubuntu is wireless drivers with a broadcom card. Tho I've sorted it out with ndiswraper.

You shouldn't need to use the command line at all but it would be recommended to see what it can do.

AntiRip

I've installed it now long side Win 7. No wireless adaptor working. Went into Win 7 and the adaptor isn't working either now. Such a pain in the bum :rolleyes:

EKRIUQ

tman wrote: »

Press alt+f2 and type in "update-manager -d"

Cheers that did the trick, upgrading now I hope:o

5uspect

AntiRip wrote: »

I've installed it now long side Win 7. No wireless adaptor working. Went into Win 7 and the adaptor isn't working either now. Such a pain in the bum :rolleyes:

Is there a physical kill switch (Fn+F2 for example)?
You may need to enable it in Win7 first.

Also in Ubuntu go to system>administration>hardware drivers and enable any third party wifi drivers.

Also open a terminal (yeah I know ) and type iwconfig
Is there a wlan0 entry and what does it say?

AntiRip

5uspect wrote: »

Is there a physical kill switch (Fn+F2 for example)?
You may need to enable it in Win7 first.

Also in Ubuntu go to system>administration>hardware drivers and enable any third party wifi drivers.

Also open a terminal (yeah I know ) and type iwconfig
Is there a wlan0 entry and what does it say?

Thanks for replying, damn I've started a new thread as I didn't want to hijack this one

Will give them a go and get back to you

AntiRip

5uspect wrote: »

Also open a terminal (yeah I know ) and type iwconfig
Is there a wlan0 entry and what does it say?

lo no wireless extensions

eth0 no wireless extensions

eth1 IEEE 802.11 Access Point: Not-Associated

5uspect

So it looks like you are getting your wi-fi device on eth1.
You need to change the wireless interface id of network-manager-gnome to use eth1 instead of the default wlan0.


I use wicd for my wi-fi, I find it better than the gnome-network-manager.
You can install it from the synaptic package manager if you wish.

This is a nice UI where you can select and install software from a repository of popular open source software.

Ardent

Jonathan wrote: »

$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-get upgrade
$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

EDIT:
If you don't like terminal:

Thanks, those terminal commands did the job for me. Couldn't get over how long it took to install 10.10 once the upgrade files were downloaded!!

d'Oracle

I have been on Ubuntu for about a week.
Linux Newbie, 10.04

Should I bother upgrading?
I didn't want to wait the extra 2 days for 10.10.

Jagera

What is everyone's opinion on the Unity interface? I'm not finding it very friendly so far.. some examples

- when I press the "Web" category (Blue icon in below image) it simply opens Firefox.

- When I press Applications, then "Internet" I can't see Transmission Torrent. But its installed. If I search for "torrent" then KTorrent comes up....

Should I bother upgrading?

I am the same as you. 1 week on 10.04, and upgraded 2 days ago. I prefer the 10.04 interface.

source

bw wrote: »

What is everyone's opinion on the Unity interface? I'm not finding it very friendly so far.. some examples

- when I press the "Web" category (Blue icon in below image) it simply opens Firefox.

- When I press Applications, then "Internet" I can't see Transmission Torrent. But its installed. If I search for "torrent" then KTorrent comes up....




I am the same as you. 1 week on 10.04, and upgraded 2 days ago. I prefer the 10.04 interface.

Why didn't you install the full desktop version, it's exactly the same as 10.04, you could always do as i did and download unity through the software center. You can then choose between the two at login.

I do quite like the unity GUI, it's nice and handy to use. But yeah there are one or two little bugs in it.

Stokolan

foinse wrote: »

Why didn't you install the full desktop version, it's exactly the same as 10.04, you could always do as i did and download unity through the software center. You can then choose between the two at login.

I do quite like the unity GUI, it's nice and handy to use. But yeah there are one or two little bugs in it.

You can do that with the login with the netbook version anyway. You can also go back to the older 10.04 style, by selecting the 2d version.

Khannie

d'Oracle wrote: »

I have been on Ubuntu for about a week.
Linux Newbie, 10.04

Should I bother upgrading?
I didn't want to wait the extra 2 days for 10.10.

I wouldn't bother.

I did the upgrade myself at home and it went grand, but I'm sticking with 10.04 in the office for now.

Stokolan

Decided to put 10.10 on my main pc as a second OS,

Have a few minor issues with it that I'll have to try fix.

1 - No sound. Creative xfi card. Showing up in properties but just no sound coming out of it.
2 - Flash videos are jumpy and freezing.

Anyone got any ideas on whats the best thing to do for these? Or a link to an idiots guide to fixing them :P

Jagera

Khannie wrote: »

I did the upgrade myself at home and it went grand, but I'm sticking with 10.04 in the office for now.

I rolled back to 10.04 yesterday.

EDIT - by rolled back, I mean format & reinstall. I didn't perform a rollback function.

Bluefrog

Just to let anyone interested know, upgraded from Lucid this morning without any major issue on my Inspiron 9400.

Graphics feel distinctly snappier for some reason. Also Pulse audio (signatel card) which had been giving me no end of problems in Lucid with Skype etc seems to work great in Maverick.

Nice to see Empathy 2.32 which seems to have brought back audio to MSN and both Audio and video to Yahoo - haven't tested these yet though.

Only thing that broke was Burg but a quick re-install with the graphical Burg manager and an update took care of that.

All in all, pleased I took the plunge.

Jonathan

I think i'll leave my laptop with 10.04. It's an OSXless (Lucid/Win7) MacBookPro 5,5 and I don't really have the time at the moment to get fix it if the upgrade breaks one of the many EFI/HFS+/Mactel tricks...

Might do a clean install on the desktop later though.

Tar.Aldarion

just put it on gfs netbook, the desktop version. The netbook version had more bugs...lots of flickering screen and nothing much happening. If you get an error installing from usb about a configuration error, go into syslinux config and remove 'ui' from the last line and then install. It will work fine then, what a pain.

Sparky

Stokolan wrote: »

1 - No sound. Creative xfi card. Showing up in properties but just no sound coming out of it.

This issue I have on the desktop for a while. Doesnt bother me too much, but for the moment I've decided to run it in VMware on another monitor beside Win7

pickarooney

I don't think I'll bother with this, yet again. I can't see any real point in these releases and am just going to stick with my tried and trusted Jaunty install.