Tendonitis

Pontificatus

**Not looking for medical advice just general experience**

Does anyone here suffer from tendonitis, particularly of the elbow? My current regime of ice every night and stretching before and after training provides me with some relief, but it still nagging me alot of the time.

I've read that it can flare up due to overuse of the forearm muscles (:rolleyes:), particularly with gripping and pulling excercises. From my own experience it's very tight the morning after pullups, inverted rows and after a BJJ session. I have no problem with deadlifting but it can cause discomfort during military press depending on the grip (thumbless = no pain for me).

Has anyone else experienced this and had 100% recovery or is it something i will just have to manage and put up with. Any good stretching recommendations

Hawk Wing 2

Plagued with it in my shoulder, lots of stretching is the only answer I find

AntiVirus

I have the exact same problem as you do. Doing pull ups affects it more than doing chin ups which I think is because of the different grip. I don't get any pain doing dips, chest press, or chest flies. I went to see a physio yesterday and was told to rest it. If you hold your arm at a 90 degree angle and twist you wrist (left if left arm, right if right arm) do you feel a pain in your forearm? Try a negative chin up and see how that feels?

rustynutz

Pontificatus wrote: »

**Not looking for medical advice just general experience**

Does anyone here suffer from tendonitis, particularly of the elbow? My current regime of ice every night and stretching before and after training provides me with some relief, but it still nagging me alot of the time.

I've read that it can flare up due to overuse of the forearm muscles (:rolleyes:), particularly with gripping and pulling excercises. From my own experience it's very tight the morning after pullups, inverted rows and after a BJJ session. I have no problem with deadlifting but it can cause discomfort during military press depending on the grip (thumbless = no pain for me).

Has anyone else experienced this and had 100% recovery or is it something i will just have to manage and put up with. Any good stretching recommendations

Have had this a few times through the years, most recently a few weeks ago. Only cure I found was a steroid injection directly into the inflammed tendon. This only works if you can find a doctor who can find the exact spot to inject into.

Pontificatus

AntiVirus wrote: »

I have the exact same problem as you do. Doing pull ups affects it more than doing chin ups which I think is because of the different grip. I don't get any pain doing dips, chest press, or chest flies. I went to see a physio yesterday and was told to rest it. If you hold your arm at a 90 degree angle and twist you wrist (left if left arm, right if right arm) do you feel a pain in your forearm? Try a negative chin up and see how that feels?

If i pick up a coffee cup at arms length (sore), bring it to my mouth(not sore) and turn the cup to drink (sore) my effected area is at the elbow and just below the joint. From reading i think the term 'golfers elbow' applies. I dont play golf btw How long have you been effected? To be honest i'm just trying to judge how long this could effect me for and if i should just 'man up' and ignore the discomfort.

Are there any other strength excercises which can be done while resting your elbow?

rustynutz wrote: »

Have had this a few times through the years, most recently a few weeks ago. Only cure I found was a steroid injection directly into the inflammed tendon. This only works if you can find a doctor who can find the exact spot to inject into.

Thanks, but i think i'd rather stick to the ice and stretching and avoid cortisone or steroid injections if at all possible...for now

GampDub

Have had it in my knee (Patellar) for a number of years... similar to yourself ice a stretchng was all that really seemed to work for me to provided any kind of relief!

Recently I started taking some Cissus Quadrangularis, I used Mega Cissus from myprotein.co.uk and have to say the results so far (about 3 weeks in) have been fantastic! While it has completely cured me the relief I have felt so far has been amazing!

Would definitely reccommend you give it a shot!

WalterMitty

Had it around ten years ago. I stopped everything for awhile and had physical therapy and cortisone and physio but it did little. I went back gym after few months and just persavered and it cleared up and i havent had it much since and only for a few days when i have had it. I avoid exercise which seemed to trigger it or make it worse.

AntiVirus

Pontificatus wrote: »

From reading i think the term 'golfers elbow' applies. I dont play golf btw How long have you been effected? To be honest i'm just trying to judge how long this could effect me for and if i should just 'man up' and ignore the discomfort.

Are there any other strength excercises which can be done while resting your elbow?

Yip Golfers elbow is what I think it is too. I've had it for months and it hasn't any worse or any better. I have been just going to the gym and ignoring it and it hasn't stopped my progress but I've decided to stop doing the exercises that seem to cause the pain for a few weeks and see how it goes. I'd rather not wait for it to get worse.

Any exercises which don't hurt should be ok to do, or anything that involves pushing should be ok. I'm only back from the gym now and was finishing off by doing some rowing on the C2 and after a few mins I could feel it so thats off the list too! If it hurts mark it off the list

AntiVirus

GampDub wrote: »

Recently I started taking some Cissus Quadrangularis, I used Mega Cissus from myprotein.co.uk and have to say the results so far (about 3 weeks in) have been fantastic! While it has completely cured me the relief I have felt so far has been amazing!

Would definitely reccommend you give it a shot!

I've just been reading up on Cissus Quadrangularis and tendons and the feedback all seems to be good so I'm off to order some and see how it goes! Thanks for the tip

GampDub

AntiVirus wrote: »

I've just been reading up on Cissus Quadrangularis and tendons and the feedback all seems to be good so I'm off to order some and see how it goes! Thanks for the tip

Can't do you no harm and I can certainly vouch for it. Got to the stage whereby if my knee was bent while sleeping I would wake up in serious discomfort and not be able to get back asleep. Haven't had that problem since I started taking it.

As I have said already though this doesn't seem to be any kind of miracle cure, from years of trying to cure it I have realised that the only way to truely cure tendonitis is to to cease all activity that may be causing it. I'm not prepared to do that at the moment so I'll be sticking with Cissus

Pontificatus

AntiVirus wrote: »

Any exercises which don't hurt should be ok to do, or anything that involves pushing should be ok. I'm only back from the gym now and was finishing off by doing some rowing on the C2 and after a few mins I could feel it so thats off the list too! If it hurts mark it off the list

On the C2, perhaps you should try changing your grip to a thumbless grip and narrow your grip also (ie hands closer together). This works well for me in reducing the impact. I use the rower at least three times a week (2 HIIT, 1 general ticking over)

AntiVirus

Pontificatus wrote: »

On the C2, perhaps you should try changing your grip to a thumbless grip and narrow your grip also (ie hands closer together). This works well for me in reducing the impact. I use the rower at least three times a week (2 HIIT, 1 general ticking over)

I'll try that out on Friday and see how it goes.

rustynutz

Thanks, but i think i'd rather stick to the ice and stretching and avoid cortisone or steroid injections if at all possible...for now

Do you mind me asking why, is there a risk involved I don't know about?

+1 on the Cissus, had problems with my knees for years, started taking cissus a couple of months ago and no problems since, hopefully it stays that way!!

Giggipaws

AntiVirus wrote: »

Yip Golfers elbow is what I think it is too. I've had it for months and it hasn't any worse or any better. I have been just going to the gym and ignoring it and it hasn't stopped my progress but I've decided to stop doing the exercises that seem to cause the pain for a few weeks and see how it goes. I'd rather not wait for it to get worse.

Any exercises which don't hurt should be ok to do, or anything that involves pushing should be ok. I'm only back from the gym now and was finishing off by doing some rowing on the C2 and after a few mins I could feel it so thats off the list too! If it hurts mark it off the list

Hi there,

I think also that it is good to stop the activity that worsens the condition because if the inflammation of the tendon increases, it might be even harder to treat. In the meantime you can still do some training - legs, abdos, cardiovascular training, etc.

What usually works is the total rest of the affected forearm for let's say a week, icing for 15mins 5 times a day, and a self massage of wrist flexors (the muscles that run for the inner side of your elbow towards the wrist) - these are the ones affected by the Golfer's elbow. Self massage should involve kneading the muscles (usually they feel quite tense if you suffer of this condition) and some other similar movements. I use anti-inflammatory drug too (Ibprofen or Voltaren gel etc).

If it does not get better, ultrasound might need to be the next step - but for this you would need to see a specialist.

Hope this helps,
Giggi

SpookyBastard

Had it myself about 6 months ago. Seemed to be a combination of 10 hours using a mouse and then heavy tricep exercises. I ended up taking about 8 days off lifting and seriously cutting back on computer time, icing my elbow in a bucket of ice and water a few times a day and taking some anti-inflamatories. I haven't had it since though so I guess you can keep it at bay. I'm careful to stretch more and I don't push through on heavy tricep work if it starts to nag at me.