How do i stop my dog barking at night

ste2006

Hi All,

As some of you may remember i got a rescue dog about 6 months ago called Tayto (Border Collie). He is doing great and we have great fun together.

We had another small old dog we were asked to take care of and him and Tayto used to have good fun together. He died last week from old age and Tayto really missed him.

We picked up a Terrier / Collie cross from a shelter last week to give Tayto (Original Dog) some dog company.

The two dogs get on great and run after each other, play tug of war etc etc.

Anyway my issue is the new small dog likes to bark at night. He will be very quiet but he could start barking at 2 AM and not stop for ages. He will only start barking if another dog starts first.

We have lots of dogs around if different houses, farms etc and if any of them decide to bark a few times in the night my fella will start up also.

He is keeping us up all night once he starts. We tell him to be quiet and he stops for 2 mins and starts again.

Has anyone any ideas on how to stop him barking. Tayto is very quiet and never barks unless there is something wrong.

Any advice would be appreciated, Thanks,

LisaO

Where is he at night - inside/outside?

ste2006

She sleeps in a kennel outside at night,

Both Dogs have a Kennel each with bedding.

During the day she roams inside and outside wherever she wants to go.

Eircom_Sucks

leave her in the house

wetdogsmell

i know this is going to go down like a lead balloon but give the dog a slap when it cries and then ignore it, don't rub it or give it any afection, it will soon learn it does'nt get anything positive from crying, your company is what its looking for
i have 11 dogs and none of them bark at nite, once a dog is feed exercised and has water and somewere warm to sleep theres no reason to cry

andreac

wetdogsmell wrote: »

i know this is going to go down like a lead balloon but give the dog a slap when it cries and then ignore it, don't rub it or give it any afection, it will soon learn it does'nt get anything positive from crying, your company is what its looking for
i have 11 dogs and none of them bark at nite, once a dog is feed exercised and has water and somewere warm to sleep theres no reason to cry

Absol do not do this!!!! :mad: This is cruel and unnecessary. You can train dogs withourt resorting to violence and hurting them.

I would bring the dog into the house at night. There are lots of distractions outside to cause a dog to bark.

cocker5

wetdogsmell wrote: »

i know this is going to go down like a lead balloon but give the dog a slap when it cries and then ignore it, don't rub it or give it any afection, it will soon learn it does'nt get anything positive from crying, your company is what its looking for
i have 11 dogs and none of them bark at nite, once a dog is feed exercised and has water and somewere warm to sleep theres no reason to cry

DEF DO NOT DO THIS!! Its totally unecessary and cruel... dog cry for many reasons not just for food or excercise, they have feelings etc... dogs can bark or be upset for many other reasons... lonleiness, frustartion, confusion, anixety etc.... they are animals with feelings not robots. if you slap your dog he will learn out of fear... its DEF NOT the way to train a dog... this is only a recent occurance, thus shows a direct link to the loss of his buddy

Your dog is missing his friend and is lonely, maybe he feels now he is alone that he has to be alert at night etc... may be he is scared to be alone??
Yes they had seperate kennels but the were infact together etc...

Bring in inside, he will fell more at ease and the crying should stop

ste2006

cocker5 wrote: »

DEF DO NOT DO THIS!! Its totally unecessary and cruel... dog cry for many reasons not just for food or excercise, they have feelings etc... dogs can bark or be upset for many other reasons... lonleiness, frustartion, confusion, anixety etc.... they are animals with feelings not robots. if you slap your dog he will learn out of fear... its DEF NOT the way to train a dog... this is only a recent occurance, thus shows a direct link to the loss of his buddy

Your dog is missing his friend and is lonely, maybe he feels now he is alone that he has to be alert at night etc... may be he is scared to be alone??
Yes they had seperate kennels but the were infact together etc...

Bring in inside, he will fell more at ease and the crying should stop

No No, I may not have explained it great but you have it wrong,

The original Dog (Tayto) lost his friend. He is fine; Happy as ever.

Its the new dog i got who is barking. He gets on great with the new dog (Honey) and they play lots together.

Its when the new dog honey hears other dogs barking she barks back as if to reply to them.

Then the other dogs keep barking and she barks back and it keeps going on and on.

Tayto through all this time stays sleeping away and resting. He never ever barks unless there is something wrong.

Any ideas???

andreac

ste2006 wrote: »

No No, I may not have explained it great but you have it wrong,

The original Dog (Tayto) lost his friend. He is fine; Happy as ever.

Its the new dog i got who is barking. He gets on great with the new dog (Honey) and they play lots together.

Its when the new dog honey hears other dogs barking she barks back as if to reply to them.

Then the other dogs keep barking and she barks back and it keeps going on and on.

Tayto through all this time stays sleeping away and resting. He never ever barks unless there is something wrong.

Any ideas???

Let them sleep inside. No distractions there. Could be a cat or anything causing him to bark.

wetdogsmell

cocker5 wrote: »

DEF DO NOT DO THIS!! Its totally unecessary and cruel... dog cry for many reasons not just for food or excercise, they have feelings etc... dogs can bark or be upset for many other reasons... lonleiness, frustartion, confusion, anixety etc.... they are animals with feelings not robots. if you slap your dog he will learn out of fear... its DEF NOT the way to train a dog... this is only a recent occurance, thus shows a direct link to the loss of his buddy

Your dog is missing his friend and is lonely, maybe he feels now he is alone that he has to be alert at night etc... may be he is scared to be alone??
Yes they had seperate kennels but the were infact together etc...

Bring in inside, he will fell more at ease and the crying should stop

i was expecting a responce like this, i'm not talking about kicking the fook out of the dog , i'm talking about a little slap to let it know that crying for no reason is not aloud, i don't think this is cruel, its called having manners

Zapperzy

wetdogsmell wrote: »

i was expecting a responce like this, i'm not talking about kicking the fook out of the dog , i'm talking about a little slap to let it know that crying for no reason is not aloud, i don't think this is cruel, its called having manners

The only thing a slap teaches a dog is to fear your hand. Do it enough times and eventually the dog will just cower away when you raise your hand to it, keep at it and you'l eventually have a dog with aggressive tendencies towards rasied hands or sharp movements.

How long have you had the new dog? Maybe she just needs time to settle in to a new routine. Is she getting a long walk everyday? Try an extra 10/15 minute walk before bedtime to see if it tires her out enough to sleep the whole night.

ETA: Nevermind I just seen you only got her last week. It's a big change for a dog to change homes, she probably hasn't settled in yet. Try what I mentioned above, if that fails your only option is to bring them in at night and let them sleep in the kitchen or utility room.

andreac

wetdogsmell wrote: »

i was expecting a responce like this, i'm not talking about kicking the fook out of the dog , i'm talking about a little slap to let it know that crying for no reason is not aloud, i don't think this is cruel, its called having manners

You dont have to put manners on a dog by slapping it.

wetdogsmell

Zapperzy wrote: »

The only thing a slap teaches a dog is to fear your hand. Do it enough times and eventually the dog will just cower away when you raise your hand to it, keep at it and you'l eventually have a dog with aggressive tendencies towards rasied hands or sharp movements.
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i have to diagree with that, if done right the dog knows its place and is far more happy in the long run, if a dog does something its not ment to it gets punished, so it learns not to do it again, i've been doing this for 20 years and never had a problem, and to add the longest it ever took a dog to work this out was 3 nites, i think bringing inside is giving in to bad behavior and incouraging it to misbehave

andreac wrote: »

You dont have to put manners on a dog by slapping it.

i did'nt say you did but i find it works realy well

andreac

wetdogsmell wrote: »

Zapperzy wrote: »

The only thing a slap teaches a dog is to fear your hand. Do it enough times and eventually the dog will just cower away when you raise your hand to it, keep at it and you'l eventually have a dog with aggressive tendencies towards rasied hands or sharp movements.
QUOTE]
i have to diagree with that, if done right the dog knows its place and is far more happy in the long run, if a dog does something its not ment to it gets punished, so it learns not to do it again, i've been doing this for 20 years and never had a problem, and to add the longest it ever took a dog to work this out was 3 nites, i think bringing inside is giving in to bad behavior and incouraging it to misbehave


i did'nt say you did but i find it works realy well

Yes you did, you said by slapping a dog it puts manners on it. It doesnt, its violence towards the dog and absol no need for it.
yes of course it only took 3 nights, coz you were slapping it and it stopped out of fear of being hit, not because it was trained to stop properly.

cocker5

i dunno.. slapping a dog so it know its place??
What sort of attitude it that???

I hoped that way of teaching a dog was gone with the fairies...

A dog doesnt understand english and humans dont speak dog!!
so it takes time for a dog to learn how to behave! its not fair to slap a dog so it will learn... totally ridiclious!

Thank god my dog doesnt live with some of the other posters...

my dog has excellent manners, never barks, and he sleeps in the kitchen.... it is possible to have a well mannered dog without slapping it or leaving it outside.

cynder

After 5 years of listening to 3 of our neighbours dogs (2 on 1 side and 1 on the other) we have started throwing buckets of water over them each time they bark. We have a few buckets lined up, and it seems to be working.

The neighbour with the 1 dog did put a anti-bark collar on it, but that never worked.

cocker5

grindelwald wrote: »

After 5 years of listening to 3 of our neighbours dogs (2 on 1 side and 1 on the other) we have started throwing buckets of water over them each time they bark. We have a few buckets lined up, and it seems to be working.

the neighbour with the one dog she did put a anti bark-collar on it but that never worked.

I do feel your pain... its horrible living beside people who's dogs bark... its very unfair...

Have you discussed with your neighbours???

Dogs bark for many reasons... excitment, boredom, if their in pain, anixety, thirtsy etc... i would say its more than likely boredom... its totally your enighbours fault...

cynder

cocker5 wrote: »

I do feel your pain... its horrible living beside people who's dogs bark... its very unfair...

Have you discussed with your neighbours???

Dogs bark for many reasons... excitment, boredom, if their in pain, anixety, thirtsy etc... i would say its more than likely boredom... its totally your enighbours fault...

1 neighbour is very nice, she even got a anti-bark collar and kept the dog in but the other one - well thats a no go area......


The one with the 2 dogs they bark if you open the window , they bark if you open the back door, they bark if you go into the garden and keep barking.

cocker5

grindelwald wrote: »

1 neighbour is very nice, she even got a anti-bark collar and kept the dog in but the other one - well thats a no go area......


The one with the 2 dogs they bark if you open the window , they bark if you open the back door, they bark if you go into the garden and keep barking.

Jesus thats a nightmare.... thats terrible.. even as a dog owner i hate dog barking, when my guy was a pup he was a crier... a few quirts of water from an empty coke bottle (didnt point it at him but beside him) and it soon ended his whinging days...

He's brillant now... doesnt bark at all... or sorry except for when the post man comes around! Why do all dogs hate the poor post man!!

But i feel your pain, its very frustrating... :(:(:(

wetdogsmell

andreac wrote: »

wetdogsmell wrote: »

Yes you did, you said by slapping a dog it puts manners on it. It doesnt, its violence towards the dog and absol no need for it.
yes of course it only took 3 nights, coz you were slapping it and it stopped out of fear of being hit, not because it was trained to stop properly.

i said slapping it when it barks will stop it barking, and yes it stoped because it learned nothing good comes from barking for no reason, so its trained properly in my opinion, if you want to do it a diferent way thats up to you, i don't realy care what way you do it or if you think i'm cruel as i don't know you or care about your opinion

cocker5

wetdogsmell wrote: »

andreac wrote: »

i said slapping it when it barks will stop it barking, and yes it stoped because it learned nothing good comes from barking for no reason, so its trained properly in my opinion, if you want to do it a diferent way thats up to you, i don't realy care what way you do it or if you think i'm cruel as i don't know you or care about your opinion

Can i ask how do you know the dog wasnt barking as it was in pain?
Or as it was frightened??

Do you still feel this is barking for no reason??

ste2006

What would people think about closing the door of the kennel at night and leaving her in the kennel with a bowl of water,

I rang the Kennel i got her from and this is one of their suggestions

Any thoughts???

wetdogsmell

cocker5 wrote: »

wetdogsmell wrote: »

Can i ask how do you know the dog wasnt barking as it was in pain?
Or as it was frightened??

Do you still feel this is barking for no reason??

if it was in pain it would be making the same noise during the day
frightened is no reason to bark

Whispered

I think it's a good idea, but don't rush into it. Maybe close her in for a few mins during the day, then when she's used to the door being shut behind her, close her in very last thing at night and get up bright and early to let her back out. Should only take a few days for her to be comfortable with that. You can increase the time as she gets used to it.

My fella is crated and now happily snoozes for 10 hours a night, even when his crate is open (lazy thing that he is!)

EDIT: Good idea to close her in I mean, not a good idea to smack her.

Whatever about different "training" methods, even the most old school owners who feel a tap on the nose is not a bad thing, must realise how harmful it could be to the dog when the OP only has her a week, especially considering she came from a shelter and her history may be unknown? I would be more concerned about building up trust with her than teaching her "her place"

cocker5

ste2006 wrote: »

What would people think about closing the door of the kennel at night and leaving her in the kennel with a bowl of water,

I rang the Kennel i got her from and this is one of their suggestions

Any thoughts???

Personally i think she will bark even worse... she more than likely wont liked being locked in her kennel.....

sorry i cant be of any help:(

cocker5

wetdogsmell wrote: »

cocker5 wrote: »

if it was in pain it would be making the same noise during the day
frightened is no reason to bark

ok on the pain front, your a prob right there...
but its not very sympathic to say a dog cannot bark when frightened... its a reaction, not right to slap them for it

wetdogsmell

cocker5 wrote: »

wetdogsmell wrote: »

ok on the pain front, your a prob right there...
but its not very sympathic to say a dog cannot bark when frightened... its a reaction, not right to slap them for it

i don't know why i'm bothering but i'll try clear this up, dogs do cry sometimes when there changed to a new kennel, i try double them up with another dog and will spend alot of time with them to settle them in during the day, but most dogs don't cry from fear its boredom, i'm talking about the type of barking i hear from my neighbours dogs, constant barking for no reason other than there not exercised enough or don't know any better

Whispered

wetdogsmell wrote: »

i don't know why i'm bothering

Because you care! You really really care :pac:

wetdogsmell wrote: »

constant barking for no reason other than there not exercised enough

Very good point actually. OP instead of hitting the dog, try giving it loads more exercise. I have a very boisterous, med sized dog myself and while he doesn't bark, he can get very "flighty" for want of a better word. Up and down from his bed, moving around etc. He's at his happiest when really exercised well. A tired dog, is a happy (and quiet) dog. Usually.

cocker5

wetdogsmell wrote: »

cocker5 wrote: »

i don't know why i'm bothering but i'll try clear this up, dogs do cry sometimes when there changed to a new kennel, i try double them up with another dog and will spend alot of time with them to settle them in during the day, but most dogs don't cry from fear its boredom, i'm talking about the type of barking i hear from my neighbours dogs, constant barking for no reason other than there not exercised enough or don't know any better

This i do agree with, your are right... its the slapping thing i dont agree with thats all....

It does take time for a dog to learn, but ive never slapped my dog, now i dont treat him like a baby etc, but have never slapped him either.
He is very well behaved etc... i just feel that there are ways to train a dog whether its barking or biting etc.... and for me slapping is not an option :cool:

wetdogsmell

cocker5 wrote: »

wetdogsmell wrote: »

This i do agree with, your are right... its the slapping thing i dont agree with thats all....

It does take time for a dog to learn, but ive never slapped my dog, now i dont treat him like a baby etc, but have never slapped him either.
He is very well behaved etc... i just feel that there are ways to train a dog whether its barking or biting etc.... and for me slapping is not an option :cool:

thats fair enough mate, just out of curiosity how would you stop a dog biting???????

sral1

So you have 11 dogs but you have to resort to slapping to keep control. Who is the true leader of your pack ???????? certainly not you.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

wetdogsmell wrote: »

i know this is going to go down like a lead balloon but give the dog a slap when it cries and then ignore it, don't rub it or give it any afection, it will soon learn it does'nt get anything positive from crying, your company is what its looking for
i have 11 dogs and none of them bark at nite, once a dog is feed exercised and has water and somewere warm to sleep theres no reason to cry

wetdogsmell

sral1 wrote: »

So you have 11 dogs but you have to resort to slapping to keep control. Who is the true leader of your pack ???????? certainly not you.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

another ceaser millan wanna be :eek: i said slapping a dog would stop it barking, i have no need to hit my dogs as they already know there place, and i'm sure i'm more in control of my dogs than anyone else on this site, but you could be right, maybe my dogs are realy in control

Whispered

Oh FFS you're more in control of your dogs than anyone else on this site? You realise that all credability you may have had went out the window with that arrogant and ignorant statement. (not that you care i'm sure as you have said already :rolleyes:) How could you possibly think that? You don't know half of the posters in this forum. What a ridiculous statement.

arybvtcw0eolkf

wetdogsmell wrote: »

but you could be right, maybe my dogs are realy in control

Will you let me in on their secret to controlling you?.

kildareash

OP...u said the dogs were in separate kennels. Have u tried letting them sleek together? It must be confusing for the new guy to have a playmate all day and then be separated at night.

sligopark

sorry 11 dogs?

Are you like a rescue?

sral1

Who wants to be Ceaser Milan, control dogs by bully boy physo-tactics, I certainly would not. When It comes to controlling out of control dogs you either have IT or you Don't...........Do you:eek:

wetdogsmell wrote: »

another ceaser millan wanna be :eek: i said slapping a dog would stop it barking, i have no need to hit my dogs as they already know there place, and i'm sure i'm more in control of my dogs than anyone else on this site, but you could be right, maybe my dogs are realy in control

ste2006

kildareash wrote: »

OP...u said the dogs were in separate kennels. Have u tried letting them sleek together? It must be confusing for the new guy to have a playmate all day and then be separated at night.

They roam around outside at night and can sleep in the same Kennel if they want but they usually chose to sleep in seperate kennels.

Last night she was very good but about 2 AM she saw a cat i think and started barking and i couldnt stop her after that.

I ended up letting the two of them in to sleep on the dog beds inside.

I live in a rented house so it is not ideal to have them sleeping inside but they seem ok.

I think i might try add a door to her kennel to stop other things annoying her and at night close the door and let her out in the morning early. I might do this even for a few weeks and she might learn to not bark.

What do peolple think of this idea???

Thanks,

Phenix

hi op
had a fairly similar problem to you in that our rescue (have him 2 years now) used to bark during the night when we first got him. basically i think it was a type of separation anxiety...solution? move his bed from down stairs to the landing! that way he could still see us and it was a comfort to him (may not an option for you though) if you only have him a week or so, he will still be settling in and could be very anxious and unsettled at the moment
maybe if you try to teach him the 'speak' command for barking, that way you can also teach him 'stop or quiet'
i would absolutly not slap him for barking, he is barking for a reson even if it is just because hes a bit nervous. he is in new surroundings and has been through a bit. I also wouldnt lock him in his kennel. even if its a big enough kennel it is still a dark, locked confined place and may make him worse in the long run, esp if he is hearing noises outside the kennel and cant go investigate! our rescue, possibly for similar reasons in the past, does not like confined spaces (even the en-suite loo is too enclosed for him)
just saw your previous post. were both dog quiet when you let them sleep inside? if so, if they are both clean and house trained im sure no-one would be the wiser if they slept inside in teh night

Whispered

ste2006 wrote: »

What do peolple think of this idea???
,

Good idea I think, but don't just expect her to be happy being locked in straight away. Take your time and have her get used to it before you lock her in.

wetdogsmell

Whispered wrote: »

Oh FFS you're more in control of your dogs than anyone else on this site? You realise that all credability you may have had went out the window with that arrogant and ignorant statement. (not that you care i'm sure as you have said already :rolleyes:) How could you possibly think that? You don't know half of the posters in this forum. What a ridiculous statement.

thats fair enough mate but it was meant as a joke to the moron i was replying to, and i realy do care i broke into tears when i seen your nasty reply

wetdogsmell

sligopark wrote: »

sorry 11 dogs?

Are you like a rescue?

no need to apologise , no not a rescue, i'm a puppy farmer

wetdogsmell

sral1 wrote: »

Who wants to be Ceaser Milan, control dogs by bully boy physo-tactics, I certainly would not. When It comes to controlling out of control dogs you either have IT or you Don't...........Do you:eek:

well i don't have any out of control dogs so i must

wetdogsmell

Sylvie Icy Nosebleed wrote: »

Will you let me in on their secret to controlling you?.

we both know thats impossible

Glencarraig

Buy a bark collar in Argos, they are around €40 but well worth the money. When the dog barks it squirts out a puff of lemon scent, does the dog no harm whatsoever. The idea is that it distracts the dog and he will soon learn not to bark. I used one with a rescue dog I got from the DSPCA and have not had a problem.

wetdogsmell

Glencarraig wrote: »

Buy a bark collar in Argos, they are around €40 but well worth the money. When the dog barks it squirts out a puff of lemon scent, does the dog no harm whatsoever. The idea is that it distracts the dog and he will soon learn not to bark. I used one with a rescue dog I got from the DSPCA and have not had a problem.

that sounds very cruel to me

andreac

wetdogsmell wrote: »

no need to apologise , no not a rescue, i'm a puppy farmer

Hope this is a joke?

Whispered

wetdogsmell wrote: »

thats fair enough mate but it was meant as a joke to the moron i was replying to, and i realy do care i broke into tears when i seen your nasty reply

As I'm sure the person you just called a moron will when they see how little you think of them :rolleyes:. You really seem to want people to know you don't care. People likely got that from your first post.

I think it's pretty clear the OP is not going to slap their dog to get it to do what they want (and fair play to the OP for just ignoring it too instead of responding! not that you care of course) so any other tips to stop the dog barking at night?

I've always thought of my dad as an old school owner. His dogs are dogs and thats it. Treated as such, outdoor animals with a job. He can control his dogs with a nod of his head, in an open field, and doesn't have to resort to slapping. His dogs "know their place" to the point that he doesn't need to physically punish them and assert himself like that.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Whispered wrote: »

I've always thought of my dad as an old school owner. His dogs are dogs and thats it. Treated as such, outdoor animals with a job. He can control his dogs with a nod of his head

No need to lay the Glasgow kiss on the poor creatures.

One thing, if I'd a dog barking at night I wouldn't mind giving it a slap if I thought it would shut it up.

I'd recently a neighbour who had a barking dog, and I swear to good God if it was legal I'd have shot it, and the owner for not slapping it to shut it up.

OldNotWIse

wetdogsmell wrote: »

i know this is going to go down like a lead balloon but give the dog a slap when it cries and then ignore it, don't rub it or give it any afection, it will soon learn it does'nt get anything positive from crying, your company is what its looking for
i have 11 dogs and none of them bark at nite, once a dog is feed exercised and has water and somewere warm to sleep theres no reason to cry

Ridiculous advice. The best way to overcome bad behaviour is to ignore it, and reward good behaviour, same as with kids.

OldNotWIse

grindelwald wrote: »

After 5 years of listening to 3 of our neighbours dogs (2 on 1 side and 1 on the other) we have started throwing buckets of water over them each time they bark. We have a few buckets lined up, and it seems to be working.

The neighbour with the 1 dog did put a anti-bark collar on it, but that never worked.

Whats wrong with this statement....oh yeah I know - why the heck didnt you confront the neighbour like a grownup instead of sitting listening to the barking for five years and then throwing water? So sillly!