Micro$oft to increase price of xbox live

Trevor451

Microsoft are going to increase the price of gold in the U.S. and the UK (I don't know about Ireland but I presume it will ) :mad: I am not going to top up my gold again if the price increase effects Ireland. Why do they continue to add useless features that you can get for free on the PC such as last fm, facebook and twitter :rolleyes:

Source: http://majornelson.com/archive/2010/08/30/price-change-for-xbox-live-gold-subscription.aspx

ThatsOurGaming

They are always trying to squeez money of us grrr

lorin1234567

if they do I am just going to buy a f*cking ps3 -.-
I get enough stick from my friends about paying for online gaming like hell im going to pay even more!

thebox

UK

Current
1M Gold: 4.99 GBP
Starting Nov 1, 2010
1M Gold: 5.99 GBP


this is the only price increase for the uk so assume it will be same here

brian plank

"I wanted to let you know that as of November 1, 2010 we are increasing the price of an Xbox LIVE for some members. This price increase only affects Xbox LIVE Members in Canada, Mexico, United Kingdom or the United States."

do people read things anymore?

Jev/N

Rant fail! :pac:

TheMooseInNam

Don't think this increase will effect the Euro zone. Haven't found any mention of the price going up here in Ireland.

It can't go up because they haven't offered us anything extra here on the Live service to justify it.

gizmo

Ireland is not in the UK in the context of XBox Live so not only did you sound silly using the term "Micro$oft", your rant also failed. :pac:

Zeouterlimits

As for the increase:
"There is no defending the price increase at all but I see it as paying a cover charge for a bar where all my friends are drinking at. Sure I could go down the street and drink at the bar with no cover charge... but I'd be drinking alone.£

calex71

I think it's safe to assume Ireland won't be effected directly, however how many of us use the sucker way of buying live i.e through the dashboard? Most of us in the know buy off ebay or live-codes et-al and these are sourced usually from UK sellers. But doesn't look like they are upping the pric eon 12 months for now so storm in a tea cup I think.

grimm2005

people are saying it won't effect Ireland but surely most people here buy their subs off the likes of live-codes who sell in £ sterling (I know i do anyway, hell of a lot cheaper).
Although as stated above it only appears to be the 1month subs in the UK so hopefully no change to the 12month

Edit: Darn calex, beat me to it :P

Mikeyt086

thebox wrote: »

UK

Current
1M Gold: 4.99 GBP
Starting Nov 1, 2010
1M Gold: 5.99 GBP


this is the only price increase for the uk so assume it will be same here

lol

LETS BURN THE ****IN MICROSOFT BUILDING DOWNNN!

:rolleyes:

calex71

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

lol

LETS BURN THE ****IN MICROSOFT BUILDING DOWNNN!

:rolleyes:

I'll start passing around the pitch forks you light the torches

DARK-KNIGHT

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

lol

LETS BURN THE ****IN MICROSOFT BUILDING DOWNNN!

:rolleyes:

its in sandyford industrial estate in dublin the building name is the atrium lol lets go:)

johnny_ultimate

Hah the Kotaku post about it has 2000+ comments already :pac:

Doesn't seem to be affecting us, so maybe no need to panic. The 59.99 it brings it up to in the US is still cheaper than our standard rate of 60 euro, though.

Personally speaking, this wouldn't be the worst thing that has ever happened. It has stayed the same for the best part of a decade, a price hike after that long isn't entirely unreasonable.

Uh oh, I forgot I was on the internet when I said that.

gizmo

Indeed, and on top of the fact that there has not been any price increase in that period, there have been several features added along the way which haven't been charged for. Of course we haven't gotten the best of those features yet i.e. Netflix, but it's not like a one pound increase on one tier is going to kill anyone, is it? As for the UK issue, well again I think its' just for that one-month tier rather than the 6 and 12 month tiers so again, not much to worry about.

Jev/N

It only affects the one month sub though, for the UK at least, so it still shouldn't affect us

gizmo

Jev/N wrote: »

It only affects the one month sub though, for the UK at least, so it still shouldn't affect us

Yep, Major Nelson has amended his post:

Again, the only subscription packages impacted are those mentioned above. For instance, the 12m UK Price? Not affected since it is not mentioned above

jaykhunter

For once it's actually better/cheaper for us not to be in America/UK?

I dunno, I'll have to read up on it more. Price increase, i'm sure they'll stick in some new features.....it sure sucks that the 50 euro price-tag for the game doesn't cover free online. But people are willing to pay for the better service, so there ya go, really.

I also love discussing things like this with Irish people. So much more reasonable :)

DaveyDave

It isn't going up here, and in the UK it's only the 1 month that's going up. If you look around on the internet you can buy a year of Gold, usually the 12+1 Month, for €45. I think Play had one recently.

If you can afford a console, a HDTV and games, you can afford a yearly payment of €45. That's less than €3.50 a month, it costs more than €3.50 for me to get the bus into town and back.

Wetbench4

I'm so sick of microsoft and their greedy overpricing ways. The psp, ds, pc, ps3, wii and even some phones have free online gaming. I know you can cross game chat on xbox live but thats not enough to justify paying so much.

And whats more baffling is that some previous posters are giving the impression that its ok to increase prices and sher whats another €2 a month. Are you serious??

It says the uk only but you can be sure the rest of europe will have to follow suit next year, and the minute there is an increase announced for Ireland, i'm getting rid of xbl. I have a ps3 too so i will be moving to psn 100% which also will mean all my games will be bought for ps3. It seems like the xbox is in serious trouble up against the ps3 as it is without have to pay more to play my online games. Microsoft should be abolishing the payment, or at least reducing it, the world is in recession and i think they have gotten enough out of us already.

This could end up being the final nail in the coffin for the xbox and,tbh, it would serve microsoft right.

gizmo

Wetbench4 wrote: »

I know you can cross game chat on xbox live but thats not enough to justify paying so much.

Cross game chat is only one aspect of the service.

Wetbench4 wrote: »

And whats more baffling is that some previous posters are giving the impression that its ok to increase prices and sher whats another €2 a month. Are you serious??

No one said this. What was said was that since it's launch eight years ago the cost of the service has not increased yet its features has. As such the increase they're looking for, $1.20 extra per month, isn't too much to ask.

Wetbench4 wrote: »

It seems like the xbox is in serious trouble up against the ps3 as it is without have to pay more to play my online games. Microsoft should be abolishing the payment, or at least reducing it, the world is in recession and i think they have gotten enough out of us already.

No it's not, it's still outselling the PS3 and already has a 5m unit lead. The Live service is also comparatively better so for most people don't mind paying the paltry price for it. Also why would they reduce it when the other platform holders will more than likely be moving towards subscription schemes in the future?

Tubsandtiles

To be honest lads xbox live is too expensive not to complain about it, while its not going to affect us in the land of green, all downloadable content is usually always overpriced, and the whole paying for membership annoys me at times but I am sucker for xbox live, why not even bring down the price of games, sorry to blaberr on but in comparison to the uk we get ripped off :mad:

Wetbench4

gizmo wrote: »

Cross game chat is only one aspect of the service.


No one said this. What was said was that since it's launch eight years ago the cost of the service has not increased yet its features has. As such the increase they're looking for, $1.20 extra per month, isn't too much to ask.


No it's not, it's still outselling the PS3 and already has a 5m unit lead. The Live service is also comparatively better so for most people don't mind paying the paltry price for it. Also why would they reduce it when the other platform holders will more than likely be moving towards subscription schemes in the future?

I only play online games so the only difference i see, is with the cross game chat. The facebook and twitter things are rubbish, the sky needs another subscription before you can use it and if i was to watch online movies with it, my internet company would be laughing all the way to the bank. So these new features don't affect me in anyway whatsoever, so my point is why should i have to pay more to use the same features i did since the 360 came out? Maybe they should have a platinum option for people who want to use and pay for these features??

I have only been with xbl since the 360 and i think its a fantastic service but its just the whole principal of it. If you add up over the years how much people have spent on playing games online(that they've already paid for down the gameshop), its ridiculous and the fact that i'm on my 3rd or 4th 360 due to rrod, it just makes me mad.

I'm not even going to get into sales numbers with you, i couldn't care less. I just get the impression that ps3 has become the hot console of the moment, thats all.

gizmo

Wetbench4 wrote: »

I only play online games so the only difference i see, is with the cross game chat.

As I said, the cross game chat is only one aspect of the service. It's closely tied into the party and invite system, all of which combined make for a fantastically integrated online system. Having attempted to go without it myself when playing some games with my mates on the PS3, I found myself quite frustrated and was certainly glad to get back to it after we had moved back to BC2.

Wetbench4 wrote: »

The facebook and twitter things are rubbish, the sky needs another subscription before you can use it and if i was to watch online movies with it, my internet company would be laughing all the way to the bank. So these new features don't affect me in anyway whatsoever, so my point is why should i have to pay more to use the same features i did since the 360 came out? Maybe they should have a platinum option for people who want to use and pay for these features??

Well there are certainly some good points in there, it would be nice to be able to pick and choose what features get integrated but remember, the revenue MS receive from the service is used to develop this new functionality and while you may not like the feature-set now, that's not to say you won't love the next addition they make. It's a relatively small price to pay imo.

Wetbench4 wrote: »

I have only been with xbl since the 360 and i think its a fantastic service but its just the whole principal of it. If you add up over the years how much people have spent on playing games online(that they've already paid for down the gameshop), its ridiculous and the fact that i'm on my 3rd or 4th 360 due to rrod, it just makes me mad.

The principle is that running a service like XBL or PSN isn't cheap and it needs to be paid for. XBL went with their sub model while Sony decided to stick with free play. Personally I don't think this will last and I'm sure they're looking at the stats for PSN+ to see how it could be migrated to everyone else in the coming years. As for the game price, none of that is supposed to cover your online costs so the point is moot.

Wetbench4 wrote: »

I'm not even going to get into sales numbers with you, i couldn't care less. I just get the impression that ps3 has become the hot console of the moment, thats all.

Ah, that's fair enough. I'm merely highlighting you'd be wrong in that assumption.

AdMMM

People buy 1 month subscriptions?

Fingleberries

AdMMM wrote: »

People buy 1 month subscriptions?

And people pay full price for subscriptions? ... Looks like that Sticky on top of this Forum is really worth it, eh?

Ian Beale

A few of the online retailers have increased the cost of their 12 month subs and are blaming MS :rolleyes: won't be buying anymore points or subs of them that's for sure.

Zeouterlimits

Ian Beale wrote: »

A few of the online retailers have increased the cost of their 12 month subs and are blaming MS :rolleyes: won't be buying anymore points or subs of them that's for sure.

Care to name names?

Retr0gamer

I still don't get why we have to pay for the privilege of peer to peer gaming, it's not like they have any dedicated servers to maintain unlike Sony which does so for many of it's games. MS can **** right off tbh.

Ian Beale

Zeouterlimits wrote: »

Care to name names?

Sorry about that, forgot to paste the links,
http://electronicfirst.com/
and the other one also ran by ef is www.cheapxboxlivecodes.com , they put the price up by £3.00

gizmo

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I still don't get why we have to pay for the privilege of peer to peer gaming, it's not like they have any dedicated servers to maintain unlike Sony which does so for many of it's games. MS can **** right off tbh.

You're not paying exclusively for P2P gaming, you're paying for the rest of the service and the development of new features therein. Also Sony only run dedicated servers for a handful of games so it's a bit unfair to make that comparison.

Varik

gizmo wrote: »

Also Sony only run dedicated servers for a handful of games so it's a bit unfair to make that comparison.

It is only a handful but that handful happens to be most of the first party games.

WolfForager

I found that amusing...

gizmo

I did lol alright. That being said, is "cheevos" a popular name? :eek:

Gunmonkey

gizmo wrote: »

I did lol alright. That being said, is "cheevos" a popular name? :eek:

Meh the trophy and acievement whores have a completely different mindset to normal people, i assume language is wired differently too.

Zeouterlimits

gizmo wrote: »

That being said, is "cheevos" a popular name? :eek:

No, never seen it before, PA probably came up with it as it just sounds hilarious(ly bad).

HxGH

PS3 online is free......

WHYYYYYYYYY!?

HxGH

gizmo wrote: »

I did lol alright. That being said, is "cheevos" a popular name? :eek:

Cheevos is a popular word used by ppl who hunt for them/ are part of achievement hunting groups eg - trueachievements.com

Liam O

HxGH wrote: »

PS3 online is free......

WHYYYYYYYYY!?

cause it's crap

NotorietyH

Liam O wrote: »

cause it's crap

It's not by the way, there is very little difference between 360 and PS3 online.

gizmo

NotorietyH wrote: »

It's not by the way, there is very little difference between 360 and PS3 online.

I responded to this in another thread before and I think it's quite relevant here too...

You know I was thinking the same thing last night as I booted up my console...

I noticed some of my friends were online so I joined their party for a quick chat as I was finishing off a level of Afro Samurai while they were playing Red Dead Redemption. We caught up over the next 10mins and, after finishing the level I was on in Afro, we decided to play some Bad Company 2 together. I started up the game, sent them some invites as they were finishing up in RDR and we then created a squad from the guys in our party and played for a few hours.

Later, one of the guys mentioned that Mega Man 10 was in the Deal Of The Week so I dropped out, checked the latest Game Demos available and grabbed the Trial version quickly. It looked great and was 50% off so I grabbed it just before the guys re-invited me back into the game from the party I was still in. They also mentioned that the Summer Of Arcade is starting with even more sweet games coming out.

Now, what console am I talking about?

Needless to say I disagree with your assertion.

thewheel2.0

Liam O wrote: »

cause it's crap

I find that when people provide a statement like that with out backing it up your better off ignoring them.

super_furry

Meh, I don't mind. Xbox Live is a brilliant service that's light years ahead of the competition and worth the money. A minor increase in the fee doesn't really bother me.

joe123

Liam O wrote: »

cause it's crap

Its not at all to be honest. I own an xbox and only use the ps3 at friends houses. There is no difference from what I can see. Lag is the same, connecting to games etc = all the same.

To have one free and one costing 40-60 quid a year is a bit mad really.

Still I think xbox live is worth it just I cant understand why people say the ps3 online is ****e when it isnt.

Id love people to point out whats actually better about xbox live.

WolfForager

joe123 wrote: »

Id love people to point out whats actually better about xbox live.

Oh no he didn't... Time to put on your learning pants boy!

The last thing a man should do is ask that question in the xbox forum.

gizmo

joe123 wrote: »

Id love people to point out whats actually better about xbox live.

Didn't I do just that literally three posts above you?

NotorietyH

gizmo wrote: »

I responded to this in another thread before and I think it's quite relevant here too...



Needless to say I disagree with your assertion.

Fair enough, I did say "very little difference" and I'd consider that a little difference, Live is more convenient. I've never had an experience like that myself, and if that's worth 40 quid a year to ya have at it!

I'm a Gold subscriber myself, and split my time fairly evenly between PS3 (admittedly I lean more towards the PS3, and if force to choose between the two I'd go for the PS3) but in terms of actually playing games online there is very little difference between the two, and the gap is constantly shrinking. Xbox live is really good, I'm not arguing that it isn't, I'm saying that just because that may be true doesn't automatically mean PS3 online is sh*te as he was putting it. Fanboyism does my head in, that's what I was responding to. PS3 is perfectly fine online, Xbox Live is a bit more convenient and stream-lined but it's not like it's impossible to play games online on PS3, and I find it hard sometimes to justify the price of Live to myself, but saying that, I would be fairly certain that Sony will be copying Microsoft's model and not the other way around and we'll be paying to play both online.

gizmo

I totally agree, saying PSN is ****e just isn't true and it reeks of fanboyism.

What is equally an unfair point to make though is this "paying to play online" idea. With XBL you're paying for the entire service, as I outlined above, not just the ability to play online. For the paltry sum XBL costs per year I think said service and the continued development of it is well worth it. There are those who disagree of course but at the end of the day, you get what you pay for.

NotorietyH

gizmo wrote: »

I totally agree, saying PSN is ****e just isn't true and it reeks of fanboyism.

What is equally an unfair point to make though is this "paying to play online" idea. With XBL you're paying for the entire service, as I outlined above, not just the ability to play online. For the paltry sum XBL costs per year I think said service and the continued development of it is well worth it. There are those who disagree of course but at the end of the day, you get what you pay for.

Yeah I'd generally agree that Live is worth it in the long run, there's just the odd month that goes by that I rarely use it. If we had the same features as the US it'd easily be worth it. I'd love Netflix. Don't mind paying for Live at all, just bemoan the fact the odd day (usually renewal day funnily enough!)

gizmo

NotorietyH wrote: »

Yeah I'd generally agree that Live is worth it in the long run, there's just the odd month that goes by that I rarely use it. If we had the same features as the US it'd easily be worth it. I'd love Netflix. Don't mind paying for Live at all, just bemoan the fact the odd day (usually renewal day funnily enough!)

Hah, so true!

Also totally agree on the features the US service gets, I really would kill for Netflix.