Understanding CD's/TV's

Miss Ogyne

OK so starting this in the same vein as this thread

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055966319

and kind of came to my head because of this thread

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056011036

Now before going any further my reason for this is curiosity, I'm not here to judge and anyone posting shouldn't judge either, each to their own etc

Firstly I'm pre op M to F TS and live full time as female hence my reason for not understanding CD/TV's. I'll ask my questions and maybe then it'll be clearer where I am coming from

OK so there are two types of CD's and two types of TV's (I am taking that from coolvales thread), the ones who dress for sexual pleasure/kick/kink etc and the ones who just do it because it feels comfortable, as I said I live full time and my preferred clothes are Jeans, t-shirt and ugg boots(Skang I know but seriously guys they are so damn comfortable) so based on that my questions are

1. If you do it for the sexual reason then what is the sexual trigger?, I get no sexual kick from the clothes so it's hard for me to see what would cause anyone else to.

2. If you don't get a sexual kick then what is your motivation for doing it? as in why are you drawn to wear womens clothes? to me clothes are clothes, jeans are jeans no matter the gender

3. How do you identify? as in do you identify as straight/gay male in male mode and straight/gay female in female mode or do you always identify as male no matter the mode (I ask this because I see a lot of TV's/CD's use the word "Gurls" an to be honest that word just makes me cringe)

4. Clothes, do the types of clothes make a difference? as in when TV/CD'ing would say my preference in everyday clothes be less effective than say a skirt and Satin blouse? and also to a lesser extent do materials make a difference too?

I have more questions but I'll start with those four and if the thread is allowed to run it's course try keep it nice people, if you are going to post words like "Freaks"/"Perverts" etc then don't, I'm not asking for an opinion of them I'm asking for an insight into them and hopefully learn something and I realize that I'm being very black and white right now (sexual or non sexual) but to be honest that's the base of how I perceive it given my current info so I'm hoping to learn something from this that will add to that perception.

Katherine Jane

Sorry, but I am curious about it too.

Miss Ogyne

Katherine Jane wrote: »

Sorry, but I am curious about it too.

I know, I've never seen anyone ask, all you can ever get are "Definitions" of the differences between us but never someone who is CD/TV actually giving it from their point of view and I'd love if some of them would answer just to clarify those questions because I doubt we are the first to want to know. And to be honest I think some insight might help others view it as more than the status it has in society now, the "Understanding Transgender" thread did more good than harm so I can't see why this one can't go in the same vein (assuming no abusive posters take their normal pot shots)

Katherine Jane

As I don't really "hang out" with the "community", I've always wanted to ask. Not in a snotty way, but out of sheer curiousity. But have always been afraid to ask, as I know how much it hurts to be asked insensitive questions. The last thing I would want to do to someone else is hurt them. I hope the meanies stay away from posting bile.

Azure_sky

There's two types of transvestism. Fetishtic transvestism, which of course a sexual fetish, and there is a non fetishistic form of transvestism. The non fetishtic is like an emotional release, getting in touch with ones feminine side. It does not however have the biological causes which is apparent in transsexuals.

Miss Ogyne

Azure_sky wrote: »

There's two types of transvestism. Fetishtic transvestism, which of course a sexual fetish, and there is a non fetishistic form of transvestism. The non fetishtic is like an emotional release, getting in touch with ones feminine side. It does not however have the biological causes which is apparent in transsexuals.

Hense the reason for my questions, what are the triggers in both? your post, while appreciated, doesn't answer the questions it just supplies another definition and we all know those definitions already. What I was looking for is something more substantial than that, an actual real life explaination of why it exists as a behaviour from someone who engages in it (for whatever reason). It's like if someone asked me why I'm TS I could give many definitions of what being TS means but equally could give my own definition of what being TS means to me and say why I am personally and not why everyone says I am by definition. I'm not looking for an internet/wiki definition here, what I'm asking for is for CD/TV's to be as open about why they are CD/TV as the TS people were about themselves on the thread I linked in my first post

Miss Ogyne

On another note the thread has had 135 hits but only 6 replies by 3 people so(as I can imagine) some people may be worried about answering but I believe in this forum you can post anonomously so replying anon is fine, I'm not asking your name just your opinion/POV/insight

LegacyUser

going unreg for this one

ive been into cross dressing for years now. I do it for purely sexual reasons, ive no desire to be a woman. Im straight, and i like being a man very much.
The clothes just make me feel sexy, and a wig and some make up just top it off, but the clothes are the main thing. The variety of materials and feel of them just gets me going. I couldnt tell you why, its just the way i am. why do some people find feet sexy?
Its escapism too, i get to be someone different for a while, act different, talk different. While i enjoy being me, i also enjoy escaping into another world where im somebody totally different and forget about my own life for a while.
I guess its also to do with the fact that im very kinky in nature. I have many fetishes and cross dressing is just one of them.
Plus, womens clothes are so much more interesting than mens

Wow, you know, ive never really thought about why i do it until now.

deirdre_dub

Azure_sky wrote: »

There's two types of transvestism. Fetishtic transvestism, which of course a sexual fetish, and there is a non fetishistic form of transvestism. The non fetishtic is like an emotional release, getting in touch with ones feminine side. It does not however have the biological causes which is apparent in transsexuals.

I wouldn't be so sure. It seems to me that there is a range of transsexualism - there are those who knew from age 3 that their body was wrong, there are those who come to that realisation later in life, and I suspect there are those who have a "milder" form of transsexualism who need to crossdress, yet don't feel the need to transition.

One of my friends describes herself as being a "24-hour transvestite" - i.e. someone who would like to live their life as female, yet retain their male anatomy.

Miss Ogyne

deirdre_dub wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure. It seems to me that there is a range of transsexualism - there are those who knew from age 3 that their body was wrong, there are those who come to that realisation later in life, and I suspect there are those who have a "milder" form of transsexualism who need to crossdress, yet don't feel the need to transition.

One of my friends describes herself as being a "24-hour transvestite" - i.e. someone who would like to live their life as female, yet retain their male anatomy.

I can understand, and in some ways relate to your friends. Until I transitioned I felt the same desperation as everyone else, just wishing to one day wake up as female but now that I live 24/7 that desperation is gone. Now don't get me wrong I still want reassignment someday but I feel happy in myself now so I'm not as pushed about it. At one point it would have been the most important thing in my life but now there are other things that are far more important to me and I've actually encounterd other TS who this has happened too.

Which I guess leads me to say to others on here that are feeling now the way I use to then is trust me it does get better. Don't focus on the reassignment because no matter what that will be a long way away and to think in such big thoughts will just overwhelm you because it seems so inaccessable. For now concentrate on the little, far more accessable things (Hormones, transitioning etc) and you'll find that the other stuff will fall into place naturally. Also taking the smaller steps will have far less impact on your life in the here and now. See if you blurt out to your family/friends that you want a sex change they will naturally assume that month you plan on getting bits chopped off and walking around with stubble and a wig and that's what they imagine it's going to be like so will reate badly whereas if you tell them that you want to transition and explain it'll be in steps and over a period of years they'll be far less risistant to it.

Annasopra

Unfortunately Miss Ogyne has been site banned permanently as the account was a rereg of Kazobel, Kazzie, Genocide, Lepidopteria etc - while she provided some useful help to some people over the last few days - her history on boards.ie means that she had to be sitebanned

Azure_sky

deirdre_dub wrote: »

One of my friends describes herself as being a "24-hour transvestite" - i.e. someone who would like to live their life as female, yet retain their male anatomy.

Well, I know some transsexuals, who have identified as the opposiate birth sex from childhood, actually do go on hormones,live full time, but never get the SRS.

Azure_sky

Johnnymcg wrote: »

Unfortunately Miss Ogyne has been site banned permanently as the account was a rereg of Kazobel, Kazzie, Genocide, Lepidopteria etc - while she provided some useful help to some people over the last few days - her history on boards.ie means that she had to be sitebanned

Well it looks like she wants to differ, what exactly is the reason, all she's done is help so far so how can she be just randomly accused of being an ex member? Is every TS going to be treated like that?
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056016431

Annasopra

Azure_sky wrote: »

Well it looks like she wants to differ, what exactly is the reason, all she's done is help so far so how can she be just randomly accused of being an ex member? Is every TS going to be treated like that?
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056016431

No, every TS is not going to be treated like this. This thread is not about Miss Ogyne. I will delete any further references. If you have a problem send me a PM