Peak Oil!!!

Tender Hoop

Some say that we are already there and that supplies are now on the way down.

What does that mean for joe public? With the world so heavily reliant on oil and oil based products and with no real viable alternative what will happen to society when we run out of oil?

Will an alternative be developed in time or will there be a abrupt end of oil supply which will then cause chaos in society?

I have been reading a few books and watching some documentaries on the subject and I think it is a very interesting and worrying topic. I would be curios to see if any boardies have given this any considerations and if so what their thoughts are on the issue.

One thing that is for sure is that the demand for oil is increasing and the supply is decreasing. Oil is finite, it will run out and some say soon. :eek:

MagicMarker

Oil is finite? The hell you say!!

In other news, light is light.

KeithM89_old

Use Gas...

Voltex

buy a Nissan Leaf and a Superser!

mikom

Tender Hoop wrote: »

Some say that we are already there and that supplies are now on the way down.

What does that mean for joe public?

Fuck..... We'll have to grill everything.

Biggins

Yea, another 50 to 70 years and prices are going to rocket - without fuel of course!
(I'll propably be dead by then by I worry for the kids future)

SeaFields

we should go nuclear ....now!

Biggins

SeaFields wrote: »

we should go nuclear ....now!

Go annoy Iran or North Korea - they will make you nuclear rapid!

Mrmoe

I think this will be a good thing for Ireland. We will eventually switch to more renewable means of fueling transport. Our agricultural system will get a boost as well due to the rising price of food world wide our low cost systems of production will have an advantage over most others.

strokemyclover

I'm already working on a potato-based alternative

SeaFields

Biggins wrote: »

Go annoy Iran or North Korea - they will make you nuclear rapid!

The experiments by Iran and N. Korea are strictly for energy generation Biggins ....and they just happen to be testing some nice new rockets they built as well.

InTheTrees

Maybe planning permission for a wind turbine will get easier?

naaa....

:mad:

Biggins

SeaFields wrote: »

The experiments by Iran and N. Korea are strictly for energy generation Biggins ....and they just happen to be testing some nice new rockets they built as well.

I agree - pure coincidence.
And one will never be combined with the other. :pac:

Sea Sharp

Rumour has it they genetically engineered bacteria that eats wood chips and sh1tes out oil.
Also there's a load of helium3 on da moon, which can be used for nuclear fusion or somthin' like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbnZNJptWEQ

Terry

strokemyclover wrote: »

I'm already working on a potato-based alternative

Poitín?
I've been drinking it for years and can confirm that it is worthy of the rocket fuel status it has acquired.

As for oil, I consume very little, so I can now point at all you jackasses driving large engine cars and call you, well, jackasses. Seriously, what's the point? Do you think that driving above 88Mph will give you the ability to travel through time? Do you think that owning a car that gets you 20mpg makes your cock bigger?
Congratulations on selfishly depleting the world's oil supply through your own vanity. The medal is in the post.

Biggins

Sea Sharp wrote: »

...Also there's a load of helium3 on da moon, which can be used for nuclear fusion or somthin' like that.

Apparently true but at present the mining costs are not YET making it a viable project to go ahead with - but give them time and the super-powers will find a way.
Thanks heavens I will be dead (hopefully) before they mine the crap out of the moon!

Jesus Wept

Watch the movie 'Crisis' if you feel like freaking out.
Actually that isn't the name of the movie, I can't remember what it was called now. :-o

According to it we are doomed and it's time to stock up on tinned goods.

Oil is used for everything, making essential things that can't be made without it.

amacachi

Once the price goes over ~$100 shale oil will become economically viable leaving us with a nice big supply again.
We should be building fission plants and erecting wind turbines til fusion becomes viable. Some day I'm sure.

Tender Hoop

The-Rigger wrote: »

Watch the movie 'Crisis' if you feel like freaking out.
Actually that isn't the name of the movie, I can't remember what it was called now. :-o

According to it we are doomed and it's time to stock up on tinned goods.

Oil is used for everything, making essential things that can't be made without it.

I watched crisis. Pretty dramatic stuff.

Terry

InTheTrees wrote: »

Maybe planning permission for a wind turbine will get easier?

naaa....

:mad:

No! You are not going to obscure my view of the sea and/or field with your monstrosities. I will object to any planning permission requests.

How dare you even suggest building such eyesores? I guarantee that you would object to them if you were not living in a high ivory tower. It's all well and good for you, but not all of us can c the c from c level.*

As for nucular power; how dare anyone even suggest it. We all know that Muslim teererists will undoubtedly blow them all up, and that the English will just pour our waste back into the Irish c.* Actually, the last bit might be true.


*I decided to amuse myself by forcing txt spk users to think about what they are reading. Apologies to those who do not use txt spk. The answer is "see sea sea and sea.

Peak oil is a bit like table mountain, steep sides and a flat top, we are currently on the flat top, sometime soon - down the slope!

Oli isn't running out, it's just that we can't get it out of the ground quick enough and at an affordable price.

Forget future growth, it isn't going to happen - the Chinese have bought up much of the future supplies of oil.

Best thing we can do is to start manufacturing things locally and forget "da nowlege economy"

ejmaztec

You could probably get a thousand miles out of the contents of an Eddie Rocket frying-pan.

mink_man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGGabrorRS8

johnnyjb

This might belong in the Conspiracy Theory forum but i heard oil isnt that rare and they have loads in alaska but its being hoarded to keep supply and demand prices high.

I always wondered why people werent so pushed it would be gone in 50 years or so, it prob wont. Surely we would be seriously looking for alternatives

Grindylow

Oil switch to Water.

KevinVonSpiel

Pish-fuelled engines for the win.

Tender Hoop

johnnyjb wrote: »

This might belong in the Conspiracy Theory forum but i heard oil isnt that rare and they have loads in alaska but its being hoarded to keep supply and demand prices high.

I always wondered why people werent so pushed it would be gone in 50 years or so, it prob wont. Surely we would be seriously looking for alternatives

I would hardly call this topic a conspiracy theory.

Terry

Deleted User wrote: »

Peak oil is a bit like table mountain, steep sides and a flat top, we are currently on the flat top, sometime soon - down the slope!

Oli isn't running out, it's just that we can't get it out of the ground quick enough and at an affordable price.

Forget future growth, it isn't going to happen - the Chinese have bought up much of the future supplies of oil.

Best thing we can do is to start manufacturing things locally and forget "da nowlege economy"

What?
So all those people with arts degrees are ****ed?
Who would have thought that would ever happen?

Pherekydes

Tender Hoop wrote: »

Some say that we are already there and that supplies are now on the way down.

What does that mean for joe public?

Americans will still be driving down their driveways to collect their post while the rest of the world will be trying to catch their farts in bottles and robbing cow dung from the nearest farm.

amacachi

mink_man wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGGabrorRS8

Where does the plastic come from?

Boxoffrogs

Tender Hoop wrote: »

I watched crisis. Pretty dramatic stuff.

Was it called Collapse, Mike Ruppert was the guys name, because of him, all my money is in seeds, I couldn't afford any gold:(

sligopark

Peak Oil - another fear factor green lie to promote fear amongst serf and promote profit amongst ruler

mink_man

mink_man wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGGabrorRS8

Interesting video, I'd love to know what temperature he has it set to - it looks diy'able.

Tender Hoop

diddledum wrote: »

Was it called Collapse, Mike Ruppert was the guys name, because of him, all my money is in seeds, I couldn't afford any gold:(

Yes, Sorry it was called Collapse

Jesus Wept

diddledum wrote: »

Was it called Collapse, Mike Ruppert was the guys name, because of him, all my money is in seeds, I couldn't afford any gold:(

That was it!

ejmaztec

We'll just be assigned a couple of scumbags on community service to push our engineless limos down the shops. Fuck the oil!

My name is URL

If I was oil I'd have a peak so I could sell myself at extortionate prices through fear and urgency.. and I'd put the kibosh on that electricity too.. the fcukin pansy

Boxoffrogs

Tender Hoop wrote: »

Yes, Sorry it was called Collapse

I think Mike Ruppert needs to worry more about his lungs than he does about oil reserves, he makes my Mum look like a light smoker, interesting watch though does make you consider just how reliant on oil we are. Very high on drama though!

johnnyjb

Tender Hoop wrote: »

I would hardly call this topic a conspiracy theory.

I was not saying this topic should be in CT, my own statement could be seen as a Conspiracy theory.

sligopark

sligopark wrote: »

Peak Oil - another fear factor green lie to promote fear amongst serf and promote profit amongst ruler

Peak oil will simply give the greens wet dreams as it will do all the "carbon reduction" for them as supplies dwindle!
Forget the carbon taxes they are simply unecessary, oil use will drop anyway.

diddledum

diddledum wrote: »

I think Mike Ruppert needs to worry more about his lungs than he does about oil reserves, he makes my Mum look like a light smoker, interesting watch though does make you consider just how reliant on oil we are. Very high on drama though!

I think his take on it is too dramatic, the decline will be as slow as the original ascent, just consider what life was like only 40 years ago, in 40 years time it could be almost like that again.

Terry

Pherekydes wrote: »

Americans will still be driving down their driveways to collect their post while the rest of the world will be trying to catch their farts in bottles and robbing cow dung from the nearest farm.

I think it's time we made allies of the Russians and Chinese. Those ****ers are close enough to Alaska and are crazy enough to invade and take the oil.
Time to give the yanks a taste of their own medicine.

Nukes: Check.
Terrorist cells: Check.
Christian FundaMenatlists: Check.
Innocent Muslims: Check.
Invading other countries: Check.
Imposing their values on the countries they invade: Check.

It's time to take them out, install a puppet government, and take their oil.

Agent_47

we'll be able to forget the greens after the next election never to be heard of again.

On peak oil, Given some 87% of the countries energy needs come from oil there has to be a seismic shift toward renewable or nuclear energy.

Don't believe this shift will happen as long as oil is affordable or the nuclear debate reopens. Don't believe anything will happen until there is a "shock" to the energy system and then it could be expensive and too late. Have to say the Greens are not seismic shifters.

sligopark

My name is URL wrote: »

If I was oil I'd have a peak so I could sell myself at extortionate prices through fear and urgency.. and I'd put the kibosh on that electricity too.. the fcukin pansy

+1

Elessar

amacachi wrote: »

Once the price goes over ~$100 shale oil will become economically viable leaving us with a nice big supply again.
We should be building fission plants and erecting wind turbines til fusion becomes viable. Some day I'm sure.

This man knows the truth. There is something like in-excess of 100 billion barrels of oil through shale oil and coal oil alone on Earth.

Fusion power is the long-term future.

Elessar

Elessar wrote: »

This man knows the truth. There is something like in-excess of 100 billion barrels of oil through shale oil and coal oil alone on Earth.

Fusion power is the long-term future.

Only problem is it need to use about 30 billion barrels of oil (or gas) and water to get at it, plus it leaves a lot of pollution!

sligopark

Agent_47 wrote: »

we'll be able to forget the greens after the next election never to be heard of again.

oh please God

mink_man

amacachi wrote: »

Where does the plastic come from?

do you realise the amount of plastic currently in the world. it's a massive problem in the eastern hemisphere countries where there is no room to store the plastic, so your attempt at a witty and smart reply just failed sir.

dilallio

This guy explains peak oil very well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY

Gummy Panda

[terry's lodger]

We can use cold fusion. The world powers have had the technology since roswell. We could make it work on a world scale

[/terry's lodger]

dilallio

dilallio wrote: »

This guy explains peak oil very well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY

Yes he does, but not in this video.

This one is better, it links the ecomony as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwNgNyiXPLk