VRT on Classics

Sids Not

Just be aware that from Sept 1st you'll need to bring your car to an NCT center to pay your VRT....not sure if there will be any sort of testing procedure, but i'm sure they'll be going over it with a fine tooth comb...fore-warned etc..;)

Sorry..i forgot about the other thread...:o:o

Suffice to say i've been told theres going to be a big crackdown on foreign plated cars/bikes by customs check-points.
,some bikes seized in wicklow last sunday....;);)

Leadership

Actually I am importing at the moment and it will arrive on the 2nd from the US. The NCT center had no idea what I was talking about and the VRO told me to bring the paper work only to them. They do not need to see the vehicle.

Where is all this coming from?????

Leadership

Ok I got this from a manager at the NCT call centre, they are starting trials on the 1st September. Its not a 100% cut over hence the conflicting information that is circulating.

superfly35

I think I better have to get the document for the car sorted out this week. :-(

corktina

me too....

Leadership

Leadership wrote: »

Ok I got this from a manager at the NCT call centre, they are starting trials on the 1st September. Its not a 100% cut over hence the conflicting information that is circulating.

Cancel that statement the OP is spot on. The VRO phoned me back this morning to tell me that they will not register the vehicle from the 1st September. They also gave me this link:

http://www.ncts.ie/vrt.html

bugsntinas

can i still get my car registered in cork without taking it downn there as it's being restored?
also do ya think it's gonna be a problem that it's been in the country for around 3 years on uk plates although not used?

carchaeologist

bugsntinas wrote: »

can i still get my car registered in cork without taking it downn there as it's being restored?
also do ya think it's gonna be a problem that it's been in the country for around 3 years on uk plates although not used?

I guess these are the most valid points.

Please be advised that if you do not complete your registration process within the 30 day period then an additional assessment of VRT maybe raised for the period the vehicle remained unregistered in the State. In this regard, you are advised to retain possession of the documentation relating to the shipping or storage of the vehicle where the date of the invoice is more than 30 days earlier than the date of registration. It should be noted that an unregistered vehicle may be detained or seized by Revenue Officials or by An Garda Siochana.

Only 22 of the current NCT centres will be conducting this service on behalf of the revenue commissioners.

A directional map to the centre and the opening hours of the centre can be viewed below:

- Arklow
- Blarney
- Carlow
- Dundalk
- Ennis
- Enniscorthy
- Galway
- Greenhills
- Kells
- Kilkenny
- Letterkenny
- Limerick
- Monaghan
- Naas
- Nenagh
- Northpoint
- Skibbereen
- Sligo
- Tralee
- Tullamore
- Waterford
- Westport

What is involved in the Inspection?

At that test centre, the vehicle will be examined to ensure it matches the various characteristics described in the accompanying documentation for example, vehicle identification number (VIN), registration number (in the case of a used vehicle) make, model and variant, engine size, number of doors etc. If the requisite documentation is not available at the time of the examination or the vehicle details do not match the documentation, the vehicle will not be registered and a re-test fee will be payable on return with relavant documentation.

When it has been established that the vehicle is eligible for registration you will be presented with a document containing the vehicle details which you will be asked to sign confirming that you wish to register the vehicle as outlined on the declaration. Following confirmation, Revenue will assign a registration number to the vehicle and this will be issued to you by the NCTS on payment of the tax due.

Please note that a second visit to an NCT centre as a result of incorrect or missing documentation will be at your own expense.

Leadership

bugsntinas wrote: »

can i still get my car registered in cork without taking it downn there as it's being restored?
also do ya think it's gonna be a problem that it's been in the country for around 3 years on uk plates although not used?

I would take the paperwork down to the VRO before the 1st and register it. The VRO in Cork told me that if my container arrives before the 1st then I should take the paperwork down to them before the cut over.

macplaxton

bugsntinas wrote: »

can i still get my car registered in cork without taking it downn there as it's being restored?
also do ya think it's gonna be a problem that it's been in the country for around 3 years on uk plates although not used?

Can't see it being a problem. I got round to registering my car after 9 months in storage and still haven't taxed it yet as I've still to fix the steering before it goes on the road.:o

Sids Not

LISTEN LADS..get down and register yer cars before the 1st Sept...DO IT NOW....in Wicklow VRO they dont even need to see the car,doesnt matter how long its been stored/driven.. all you need is the V5 and yer Laser/cheque book....NO CASH....DO IT NOW....
Sorry for shouting...some people are'nt listening...]

corktina

bugsntinas wrote: »

can i still get my car registered in cork without taking it downn there as it's being restored?
also do ya think it's gonna be a problem that it's been in the country for around 3 years on uk plates although not used?

re-registered ROJ to 69C836 this morning.... get down there quick bugs....you only have til tuesday. No questions were asked as to the date it came into the country or what condition its in.


CORK VRO is now in Blackpool btw....

Leadership

corktina wrote: »

re-registered ROJ to 69C836 this morning.... get down there quick bugs....you only have til tuesday. No questions were asked as to the date it came into the country or what condition its in.


CORK VRO is now in Blackpool btw....

Thats not a bad reg from them, I bet when the NCT muppets get hold of this it will be something like 69-C-123456789.

I have no chance of meeting the Tuesday deadline for mine :-(

Abelloid

Leadership wrote: »

Thats not a bad reg from them, I bet when the NCT muppets get hold of this it will be something like 69-C-123456789.

I have no chance of meeting the Tuesday deadline for mine :-(

NCT centres will only inspect for matching numbers, registration is still in the hands of the VRO.

corktina

Leadership wrote: »

Thats not a bad reg from them, I bet when the NCT muppets get hold of this it will be something like 69-C-123456789.

I have no chance of meeting the Tuesday deadline for mine :-(

you do realise you might not need to take the car with you? Mine has not had an engine since 2006...

corktina

JustinOval wrote: »

NCT centres will only inspect for matching numbers, registration is still in the hands of the VRO.

thats how I read it...you'll have to visit BOTH the NCT and the VRO, and no doubt will have to get a NCT if not exempt (thats the system in the UK afaik, you have to get an MoT first before you can re-register )

DannyBuoy

corktina wrote: »

thats how I read it...you'll have to visit BOTH the NCT and the VRO, and no doubt will have to get a NCT if not exempt (thats the system in the UK afaik, you have to get an MoT first before you can re-register )

From cut over you'll only visit nct, their system will issue a reg on behalf of revenue.

Abelloid

DannyBuoy wrote: »

From cut over you'll only visit nct, their system will issue a reg on behalf of revenue.

So the VROs will all close? Or will they just take the VRT payments, nothing more?

milan

corktina wrote: »

re-registered ROJ to 69C836 this morning.... get down there quick bugs....you only have til tuesday. No questions were asked as to the date it came into the country or what condition its in.


CORK VRO is now in Blackpool btw....

Where in Blackpool is it?
Did you just arrive in with all your documentation and say I want to pay VRT on this Vintage car yeah?

Any idea what hours they work?

bugsntinas

i don't have the money to reg it now:(so i'll have to take me chance later.realistically is it going to be as bad as we're all thinking after the 1st?

DannyBuoy

JustinOval wrote: »

So the VROs will all close? Or will they just take the VRT payments, nothing more?

NCT centre will be taking the payment aswell. The whole process will be at the NCT centre. AFAIK the vro staff are being redeployed to other duties.

carchaeologist

Will this have any affect on the ringers,not so much the cars that are already rung,but future cars?

DannyBuoy

Depends on how 'rung' they are I suppose. NCT will check paperwork and ensure vin on vehicle match paperwork. If the vin plate is done well on the vehicle it'll probably go through. Any bigger issue, such as 2 halves of different car etc, may come to light when the standard nct is done later.

corktina

milan wrote: »

Where in Blackpool is it?
Did you just arrive in with all your documentation and say I want to pay VRT on this Vintage car yeah?

Any idea what hours they work?

LinnDubh building on the bypass (New Revenue building).Free parking. Open all day. You just roll up to reception and they give you a queueing number. Took me about 20 minutes.

corktina

DannyBuoy wrote: »

Depends on how 'rung' they are I suppose. NCT will check paperwork and ensure vin on vehicle match paperwork. If the vin plate is done well on the vehicle it'll probably go through. Any bigger issue, such as 2 halves of different car etc, may come to light when the standard nct is done later.

I think they will be looking for stamped numbers on the chassis. They failed one of my cars for this.

Sids Not

corktina wrote: »

I think they will be looking for stamped numbers on the chassis. They failed one of my cars for this.

Thatrs what i was worried about.the panel was replaced...

bugsntinas wrote: »

i don't have the money to reg it now:(QUOTE]

You dont have €50..........:eek:

corktina

Sids Not wrote: »

Thatrs what i was worried about.the panel was replaced... UNQUOTE

wanna borrow a stamp?

bugsntinas wrote: »

i don't have the money to reg it now:(QUOTE]

You dont have €50..........:eek:

Maybe its not 30 years old!

Sids Not

corktina wrote: »

Sids Not wrote: »

Thatrs what i was worried about.the panel was replaced... UNQUOTE

wanna borrow a stamp?


Thanx, i'll make do with the plate for now...




Maybe its not 30 years old![/QUOTE


thought he had a 78 tina.......

milan

corktina wrote: »

LinnDubh building on the bypass (New Revenue building).Free parking. Open all day. You just roll up to reception and they give you a queueing number. Took me about 20 minutes.

Thanks lad.

I've 2 cars I could really do with VRTing:(

The thing is,i've an 88 MK1 MR2 that I rang them in Cork about a few months back,asking for a quote to VRT it,and they said they couldnt do it in Cork,that i'd have to send off the documentation to Wexford and they'd come back to me with a price,wwould that still be the case if I went in to them on Monday,is it only 30 year old cars that are VRT'd so quickly due to it being €50?

mikehn

Hi Milan
I was curious about your MR2, I assume being 88 that its a Jap import, I was able to log onto the VRT website and get a quote for €560 based on an open market selling price of €2000, this would be for a Tbar manual trans.
Unfortunatly some custom officers can decide a particular car falls outside the normal criteria collectibles ?? As a case in point my brother brought in an '88 Merc in March 09, a friend of his had brought in a similar car same age, model, even same colour two months previously, Brother was quoted €400 more even though he referred to his friends car vrt cost he got no hearing.
Depends on who you meet I suppose.
Personally I would imput your cars details on the VRT website, print out the quote and then ring Customs or preferrably call in and ask them to confirm that its in order.

Abelloid

milan wrote: »

Thanks lad.

I've 2 cars I could really do with VRTing:(

The thing is,i've an 88 MK1 MR2 that I rang them in Cork about a few months back,asking for a quote to VRT it,and they said they couldnt do it in Cork,that i'd have to send off the documentation to Wexford and they'd come back to me with a price,wwould that still be the case if I went in to them on Monday,is it only 30 year old cars that are VRT'd so quickly due to it being €50?

No. I once waited 6 weeks for a code from Wexford on a '57 beetle, it just wasn't on the system.

milan

mikehn wrote: »

Hi Milan
I was curious about your MR2, I assume being 88 that its a Jap import, I was able to log onto the VRT website and get a quote for €560 based on an open market selling price of €2000, this would be for a Tbar manual trans.
Unfortunatly some custom officers can decide a particular car falls outside the normal criteria collectibles ?? As a case in point my brother brought in an '88 Merc in March 09, a friend of his had brought in a similar car same age, model, even same colour two months previously, Brother was quoted €400 more even though he referred to his friends car vrt cost he got no hearing.
Depends on who you meet I suppose.
Personally I would imput your cars details on the VRT website, print out the quote and then ring Customs or preferrably call in and ask them to confirm that its in order.

Well UK import,but on the VRT website its classified as Jap.
That quote you got is very good,I did the same check on the VRT website and ended up with a quote of 890 ( if I remember right! )for an 88 T-Bar model with miles around the 100k mark.

I might print off that price alright and see what they say,thanks lad.

corktina

Sids Not wrote: »

corktina wrote: »

Sids Not wrote: »

Thatrs what i was worried about.the panel was replaced... UNQUOTE

wanna borrow a stamp?


Thanx, i'll make do with the plate for now...




Maybe its not 30 years old![/QUOTE


thought he had a 78 tina.......

he has two or three, some would be less than 30 Id say

corktina

thats what Id do, I'd say if the details all tally, they'd be able to do it on the spot. They have to be able to find it on their system, although a 57 beetle surprises me as not being on there!

milan

corktina wrote: »

thats what Id do, I'd say if the details all tally, they'd be able to do it on the spot. They have to be able to find it on their system, although a 57 beetle surprises me as not being on there!

Thanks lad,i'll try them tomorrow or Tues anyway.

Abelloid

corktina wrote: »

thats what Id do, I'd say if the details all tally, they'd be able to do it on the spot. They have to be able to find it on their system, although a 57 beetle surprises me as not being on there!

It was 1835cc.

corktina

sorry i thought it was a beetle not apollo 19;)

Esel

bugsntinas wrote: »

can i still get my car registered in cork without taking it downn there as it's being restored?
also do ya think it's gonna be a problem that it's been in the country for around 3 years on uk plates although not used?

From 1st September, you will have to produce an invoice and confirm importation date. Penalties will be imposed for late registration. For a car that has been here for three years, this could add up to €€€.

Best advice, as given above, is to register asap (before 1st Sept) in your local VRO.

The reg no you get is based on your address, not on where you register - so, no need to go to Cork!

corktina

strictly there is a need to take the car, in practise, especially with a classics, they dont ask to see it always.

It clearly states on the NCTS site that an extra charge may be levied on a vehicle in the state longer than 30 days before re-registration.

http://www.ncts.ie/vrt.html

I would go Monday if i were you....

macplaxton

JustinOval wrote: »

corktina wrote: »

although a 57 beetle surprises me as not being on there!

It was 1835cc.

I've had 3 cars in now not on the system. Taken anywhere between 8 days to 5 weeks.

rodneys

I am gonna be screwed so, I have a Minx in storage being restored (slowly),bought it 4 years ago for cash so no invoice or even name of previous owner as car wasnt in their name, wont be able to get it up and mobile again for ages yet!
Fun times ahead for classic scene , know loads of guys in similar situation!!!!! :mad:

kasper

surley the minx was only ever going to cost 50 euro to import when you got it ,it would be a bit mad if they were looking for stupid arrears , or am i missing something ?

corktina

had you got in there today you could have re-registereed it without taking it in and maybe saved a lot of hastle. I cant see things ever being as free and easy as they have been ... just the start ?

DannyBuoy

Tomorrow and the rest of the week will tell a lot, me thinks.

landkeeper

well i went into the vrt today to clear an offroad racer i have, it's built on a 73 rangerover chassis/running gear etc , it was road legal in the uk and i wanted to get it legal here as some events will need it to be road legal here too
anyway to cut a long story short as it has a larger than standard (for the year) engine fitted the girl couldn't do it and stated there was nothing she could do as they don't have computer system clearance after today and i'd have to book it in at an nct station etc etc etc
so it looks like the writings on the wall for old classics unless they have a clearly legible vin number on the chassis they won't accept them
the invoice/recipt part will also catch out a lot of lads i'd imagine
the whole thing is now a mess you have lads being told they CANT tax thier commercials in one office and in another lads are taxing away

Ali Babba

They've just brought things inline with other government departments really, they've been a mess for years, it's really no wonder the country's in the mess it's in. I don't blame people for ringing cars tbh.

superfly35

So like a idiot, I did not do anything work paper wise since I have the porsche.

So I am planing to go to the VRT office on Friday, I know it is too late and it is going to be a pain...

So what do I need to register my car?

I have a V5 the problem is that the V5 was dated in February but the car was 30 years old in May.

Cheers

kasper

was it in storage somewhere for a few months ?

superfly35

Oh yeah it is still in storage, I restoring the car at least I am trying.
The engine is out of the car and so on, I am planing to have it on the road for next summer.

kasper

i thought it might have been in storage in england until maybe july and only landed after its 30th birthday

superfly35

Yeah I need to go and see what the story is.
Do you know if we can go in any VRT office?
cheers