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Where do you buy your pro v1's?

  • 23-08-2010 4:15pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭


    Trying to not just use whatever cheap balls come to hand and to get a consistent feel, so......

    any ideas on the best value for buying pro v1's please?

    thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,690 ✭✭✭Whyner


    The only ones I play with are finds...:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭stockdam


    If you are buying online then watch out for the dimples.

    Ok so you won't know until you buy them but complain and post the link if you are sold fakes.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-7C6R5f34A&feature=search


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,677 ✭✭✭staker


    Usually buy my golf balls at golfstoreeurope.com.
    Never bought the ProV1's tbh, just might start doing so having played with one at the weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,939 ✭✭✭Russman


    Nevada Bobs in Dundrum had them for €35 a dozen a few weeks ago, which was pretty good. They're not at the price anymore though !

    thegolfshoponline.co.uk are doing a special at the moment, can't remember the price but the £stg10 shipping will probably use up any saving.

    Not much help I'm afraid. Best bet is to know someone heading to the States and get them to bring back a couple of dozen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭Sporty_Kate


    EBAY :D
    I got 1 Dozen for 6 euro- They were brand new
    Its excellent price for excellent golf balls!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭aster99


    what would you pay for a dozen in the states?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Kace


    EBAY :D
    I got 1 Dozen for 6 euro- They were brand new
    Its excellent price for excellent golf balls!!

    Sounds like a good deal - almost too good to be true 8-o
    Can you show us the eBay link for this ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭Sporty_Kate


    aster99 wrote: »
    what would you pay for a dozen in the states?

    I heard that it was about 43 dollars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭Sporty_Kate


    Kace wrote: »
    Sounds like a good deal - almost too good to be true 8-o
    Can you show us the eBay link for this ?

    I actually bought these a couple of months ago so the link is gone :L
    There are many more offers on eBay for Pro V1's so you should go on and have a look!
    Sorry i couldnt get the link!
    They are genuine, I did the dimples test and the balance test and they do have characteristics!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭Hacker111


    I buy mine from a guy who collects them in the Wicklow/Sth dublin area, €1 per ball, as good as new, excellent condition.......... he does really gud deals on other makes... pm me if ur interested...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Benicetomonty


    I win mine; club puts up pro vs for the gross prize:D

    Not that I win very often, but it happens the odd time and I conserve them by rarely using a brand new one!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭Sporty_Kate


    I win mine

    Haha Good One :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,571 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    EBAY :D
    I got 1 Dozen for 6 euro- They were brand new
    Its excellent price for excellent golf balls!!

    €6, no chance!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,939 ✭✭✭Russman


    I heard that it was about 43 dollars.

    That's about right, they're usually $39.99 on the shelves but then they add on the taxes which bumps it up to just over the $40 mark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭G1032


    They are genuine, I did the dimples test and the balance test and they do have characteristics!

    what tests are these?

    switched to the TaylorMade Penta now. Same distance and control as a Pro V but doesn't cut up quite so easily


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭BraveDonut


    I had heard that about the Taylormades - how do they compare price wise?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭f22


    They are genuine, I did the dimples test and the balance test and they do have characteristics!

    Have you done the warm water test? For e6 a dozen they will no doubt dissolve!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Ive started just using the ProV1 Practice balls, €35 /12 available from my Pro!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭shawpower


    Have people tried the Pro V1 practice balls? Halpenny golf have them in at the moment. €30 for a box of 12. Apparently they are perfect balls, just the previous version of the ProV, with PRACTICE written on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭G1032


    BraveDonut wrote: »
    I had heard that about the Taylormades - how do they compare price wise?

    About the same. Harder to source on Ebay though. €40 a dozen in Golfstyle in Galway...........I think!!! Buying some tomorrow evening so I'll let you know then. A sleeve cost me €10 last week. Well impressed with them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭jimbling


    I've bought Lake ball ProV1s before. First batch I got was a mixture of Pearl/Grade A. They were excellent for the most part. Worked out around €1.50 a ball I think, including delivery.

    The second time I was ordering I downgraded a bit to Grade B. Worked out at about 70c a ball, but the quality was much lower. A lot of practice/refurbished balls, and a lot with heavy scuff marks etc.


    I'm now looking to buy again (although going with Srixon z-urs rather than V1) and will get the Pearl/Grade A again.

    So that would be my advice. If you want to get Pro V1s at a low cost, get the Pearl or Grade A lake balls from a reputable vendor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭G1032


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Ive started just using the ProV1 Practice balls, €35 /12 available from my Pro!

    €25 in Golfstyle in Galway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    €25 in Golfstyle in Galway.

    More than a €10 in petrol though Im afraid :)

    FYI Practice balls are not last years or seconds, they simply have some cosmetic imperfection (that you probably wont even be able to see) that meant they didnt pass QC. X-Outs are similar but *might* not be confirming.
    However unless the competition you are playing in requires you to use a ball from the list of conforming balls then its not an issue.

    Typically I draw an aim line over the practice or x-out mark anyway so it doesnt bother me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,692 ✭✭✭shawpower


    GreeBo wrote: »
    FYI Practice balls are not last years or seconds, they simply have some cosmetic imperfection (that you probably wont even be able to see) that meant they didnt pass QC. X-Outs are similar but *might* not be confirming.
    However unless the competition you are playing in requires you to use a ball from the list of conforming balls then its not an issue.

    Typically I draw an aim line over the practice or x-out mark anyway so it doesnt bother me.

    That was my assumption regarding the "imperfection", but the Titleist rep told the guy working in Halpenny that this wasn't the case. He said they were perfect golf balls, simply had Practice written on them so couldn't be sold as regular balls. He also said that the particular batch that Halpenny had in were the previous version of ProV, but that wouldn't bother me in the slightest if it were true.

    Perhaps the rep was wrong, but I trust the guy in the store that this is what was said as he's a member of my club.

    Either way, I don't see any reason not to use them, as they are fully conforming balls from what I understand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭Tom Ghostwood


    I bought two sleeves to taylormade pentas in golfstyle. Nice ball. Not sure if i could say they are better or worse than prov1x yet. Playing today again so will play 9 holes with one of each.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭G1032


    GreeBo wrote: »
    More than a €10 in petrol though Im afraid :)

    FYI Practice balls are not last years or seconds, they simply have some cosmetic imperfection (that you probably wont even be able to see) that meant they didnt pass QC. X-Outs are similar but *might* not be confirming.
    However unless the competition you are playing in requires you to use a ball from the list of conforming balls then its not an issue.

    Typically I draw an aim line over the practice or x-out mark anyway so it doesnt bother me.

    Have played with them practice balls for a long time now. But they are not always available in the shop where I get my golf gear so tried out the TaylorMade and was impressed.

    I think you are incorrect as regards your description of what a practice ball is. AFAIK a practice does not have any imperfections. They are simply stamped with the word practice. Used on ranges at pro tournaments etc.

    An X-Out ball has imperfections and that is why the brand name has been X'd out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭G1032


    I bought two sleeves to taylormade pentas in golfstyle. Nice ball. Not sure if i could say they are better or worse than prov1x yet. Playing today again so will play 9 holes with one of each.

    They play the same from what I can make out. They just last longer.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Just wondering.....

    I know Pro v1's are a really good ball, but what kind of handicap do you need to be to enable them make any real difference to your game/score?

    I reckon most golfers are preoccupied with the most expensive clubs/balls and that in reality they make little/no difference.

    I've played off single figures for 25+ years and certainly the modern drivers hit it further and straighter too. A decent 15 y.o. peripheral weighted iron is still a good club (doesn't Lee Westwood use Ping Zings still?) and a modern soft ball - pretty much any of them - is plenty good for all but the very lowest handicap players I'd suggest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭Tom Ghostwood


    You cant beat a soft premium ball from 100 meters in. No beating it.

    Ive three balls on the go in the bag at the moment. I only use a prov1 or penta for a comp. Nice new fresh one on the first tee.

    I use srixon ad33s & the scuffed balls from the last round in non comp rounds.

    A dozen new balls would last me 2 months or more.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    I agree a soft ball gives much better feel/spin.

    The thing is though does it make any difference for a say 9 handicapper whether he uses a Pro v1 at maybe €4 a pop or say something like a Nike pd soft costing 75% less?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭Tom Ghostwood


    You'd have to ask that 9 hcapper :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Mister Sifter


    I've said it before on here and i'll say it again. The most important thing with any golf ball is that you know how it will react when hitting a shot. That means that as long as you are using the same type of ball all the time you should be fine.

    I never pay over 40 euro for a box of provs. A bit of haggling should see most pro shops do them for this amount. When you consider that the prov one scraps (practice, refurbs) are 35 euro per dozen - it's not a huge difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭jimbling


    I've said it before on here and i'll say it again. The most important thing with any golf ball is that you know how it will react when hitting a shot. That means that as long as you are using the same type of ball all the time you should be fine.

    This is definitely one of the most important factors all right.... especially in the short game side of things.

    I've been mainly using lake pro v1s for the last year. Recently I started using a top brand mix pack that I had left over. It was made up of good balls , but all different brands and types of balls (some hard, some soft etc). Short game has suffered due to this.

    Think I'm settled on the Srixon Z-Star and that's my next big batch buy. Think this guy is the best price for Pearl/A grade. And he will also insure that my batch is entirely Z-Star with no Z-starX.
    Works out at approx 1.70 a ball, but they're top quality.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    I've said it before on here and i'll say it again. The most important thing with any golf ball is that you know how it will react when hitting a shot. That means that as long as you are using the same type of ball all the time you should be fine....

    But unless you are a really top class player there's more variation in your swing than you might find in competing ball characteristics surely?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭BraveDonut


    I've said it before on here and i'll say it again. The most important thing with any golf ball is that you know how it will react when hitting a shot. That means that as long as you are using the same type of ball all the time you should be fine.

    This is why I started looking into the pro v's - to try to find some consistency.
    I played on Sunday with a brand new pro v (number 8 - apparently even that makes a difference). I lost this on the 12th and pulled the next clean/newish ball out of the bag - a callaway. I was really amazed at the difference.

    I hate the snobbery that some players have around the ball they use. Looking down their noses at some of the cheaper balls.

    But, I really liked the feel of the pro v - I just don't want to pay top dollar for them if there are alternatives out there for better value.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭jimbling


    But unless you are a really top class player there's more variation in your swing than you might find in competing ball characteristics surely?


    hmmmm, I don't think that's correct at all.... and I'm a 15 handicapper.

    Lets take an example.
    I have 100 pro v1s. I take 100 pitches from 100y out.
    I have 100 mix balls. I take 100 pitches from 100y out.


    I would be close to 100% that the first 100 would fair a lot better than the second 100.

    Firstly, Golf balls can differ hugely. One ball could fly 10y longer, even from 100y out. It could also run 10y longer.
    If you want to consistently know your distance for a well hit pitch it is hugely beneficial to use the same ball all the time.

    Secondly, while there is certainly variation in my golf swing, I hope that it is not extreme. And even it it was, to constantly be changing golf ball is just adding further variation without a need too.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    jimbling wrote: »
    hmmmm, I don't think that's correct at all.... and I'm a 15 handicapper.

    Lets take an example.
    I have 100 pro v1s. I take 100 pitches from 100y out.
    I have 100 mix balls. I take 100 pitches from 100y out.


    I would be close to 100% that the first 100 would fair a lot better than the second 100.

    Firstly, Golf balls can differ hugely. One ball could fly 10y longer, even from 100y out. It could also run 10y longer.
    If you want to consistently know your distance for a well hit pitch it is hugely beneficial to use the same ball all the time.

    Secondly, while there is certainly variation in my golf swing, I hope that it is not extreme. And even it it was, to constantly be changing golf ball is just adding further variation without a need too.

    If you were that consistant you'd be a scratch player. Yes I know balls vary but we're talking about Prov1's vs other soft balls here after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭jimbling


    If you were that consistant you'd be a scratch player. Yes I know balls vary but we're talking about Prov1's vs other soft balls here after all.

    1) What is "that consistant" referring too? Honestly, no idea what you're saying there. I never stated I had some amazingly consistent swing, nor did I infer it in any way. In fact, thought I made my point pretty clear, but perhaps I did not.

    2) One person asked about pro v1s vs softer balls, but that wasn't the main discussion in this thread. And you were replying to Mister Sifter who was just talking about the importance of consistency in golf balls. i.e. dont be going from hard to soft back to hard etc.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    I won't bother replying to that. Life is too short.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭jimbling


    I won't bother replying to that. Life is too short.

    Whatever man, no need to be a dick. But if you just want to spout ****e and not bother give a reason then fine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    I agree a soft ball gives much better feel/spin.

    The thing is though does it make any difference for a say 9 handicapper whether he uses a Pro v1 at maybe €4 a pop or say something like a Nike pd soft costing 75% less?
    Yes it does!
    I find a huge difference between Prov1 and other "soft" balls. The TM are similar but are also a similar price.
    Basically I have yet to find a cheaper soft ball that responds the same as the more expensive ones.
    Pitching, chipping and bunker shots are the most noticeable to me...and these are the shots that you need to know what the ball is going to do!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭jimbling


    I think putting is massively different too. The feel you get for distance control on the green with the more expensive ball is amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Mister Sifter


    But unless you are a really top class player there's more variation in your swing than you might find in competing ball characteristics surely?

    Not sure i agree with that. I firmly believe that the more consistency and repitition you can get in all aspects of your game, the better your game will be. And i think that stands true for all levels.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Not sure i agree with that. I firmly believe that the more consistency and repitition you can get in all aspects of your game, the better your game will be. And i think that stands true for all levels.

    Consistancy is great I agree.

    The ball (once it's got a soft feel) is a relatively minor component I feel. The swing and particularly the strike of a mid handicap golfer is hugely variable shot to shot.

    Chunk, thin, slice, hook, push, pull, off centre.......

    The reason I suggested this over emphasis on the most expensive ball, is that I played recently with a very very good player who played beautifully with a Nike PD Soft, and said that the difference between it and a Pro v1 was "minimal if you are playing well".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭gawoo1012


    BraveDonut wrote: »
    Trying to not just use whatever cheap balls come to hand and to get a consistent feel, so......

    any ideas on the best value for buying pro v1's please?

    thanks


    I think that the ProV1 is a great ball but there are now a lot of comparable alternatives in the premium ball range that offer real competition at a slightly lower price. The ProV1 is probably the best marketed ball out there which is reflected in the price. I would suggest that you take a look at the Srixon Z-star or the Bridgestone B330RX. Both excellent balls. I find that the Srixon offers a bit more spin around the greens


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Mister Sifter


    Consistancy is great I agree.

    The ball (once it's got a soft feel) is a relatively minor component I feel. The swing and particularly the strike of a mid handicap golfer is hugely variable shot to shot.

    Chunk, thin, slice, hook, push, pull, off centre.......

    The reason I suggested this over emphasis on the most expensive ball, is that I played recently with a very very good player who played beautifully with a Nike PD Soft, and said that the difference between it and a Pro v1 was "minimal if you are playing well".

    Did he play with the Nike PD Soft all the time though? If so, i fully agree with him. I personally would notice a huge difference between a PD Soft and my normal prov1 as it would react completely differently around the green than what i'm used to and what i like, but i agree that a mid-handicap player may be different.

    I think you're probably right. For the mid to high handicapper, a similar type ball is fine.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Did he play with the Nike PD Soft all the time though? If so, i fully agree with him. I personally would notice a huge difference between a PD Soft and my normal prov1 as it would react completely differently around the green than what i'm used to and what i like, but i agree that a mid-handicap player may be different.

    I think you're probably right. For the mid to high handicapper, a similar type ball is fine.

    I genuinely don't know that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭f22


    Bridgestone B330S for me for most of the Summer, low spin with the driver and good spin control around the green. Doesn't cut up nearly as bad as the new prov1/x's too.

    The advantage of the new bridgestone range is that you can match the ball to your swing speed/preferences.

    http://www.bridgestonegolf.com/product/ball-fitting/online


  • Subscribers Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭PhilipMarlowe


    I'm conducting an 'experiment' recently... I got some Srixon AD333's (from golfstoreeurope.com) and have been using them exclusively.
    The positives:
    1. Cheap. Brand new ball, ~ €1.30 ea.
    2. Less Spin. Spin isn't always beautiful backspin, sometimes it's slice or hook spin and these will slice less than a ProV1 which is good.
    3. Distance is good.

    The negatives:
    1. Less Spin. There have been a few occasions where my ball has released too much with resultant cursing etc. Noticeable from <100 yards, bunker shots, pitches etc.

    Putting is neither a positive nor a negative because I don't find it that different, they still feel pretty decent off the putter.

    However, I'd agree with Mister Sifter in that if you know what your ball is going to do then you can adjust your target/expectations to match. It's possible that the amount of times a bunker shot has rolled a couple of feet further that I'd like would be outweighed by being in play more often from the tee and potentially less likely to be in that bunker in the first place!
    Also, some consideration should be given to the type of course you play most on, whether you "need" a high-spin ball.

    I have used the TM Penta and liked it... I like the ProV1 but everyone uses them :)
    I will stick with the AD333's for a while anyway and they will be a perfect autumn/winter ball in the softer conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Licksy wrote: »
    I'm conducting an 'experiment' recently... I got some Srixon AD333's (from golfstoreeurope.com) and have been using them exclusively.
    The positives:
    1. Cheap. Brand new ball, ~ €1.30 ea.
    2. Less Spin. Spin isn't always beautiful backspin, sometimes it's slice or hook spin and these will slice less than a ProV1 which is good.
    3. Distance is good.

    The negatives:
    1. Less Spin. There have been a few occasions where my ball has released too much with resultant cursing etc. Noticeable from <100 yards, bunker shots, pitches etc.

    Putting is neither a positive nor a negative because I don't find it that different, they still feel pretty decent off the putter.

    However, I'd agree with Mister Sifter in that if you know what your ball is going to do then you can adjust your target/expectations to match. It's possible that the amount of times a bunker shot has rolled a couple of feet further that I'd like would be outweighed by being in play more often from the tee and potentially less likely to be in that bunker in the first place!
    Also, some consideration should be given to the type of course you play most on, whether you "need" a high-spin ball.

    I have used the TM Penta and liked it... I like the ProV1 but everyone uses them :)
    I will stick with the AD333's for a while anyway and they will be a perfect autumn/winter ball in the softer conditions.

    I found these guys in the states and bought some. I like them, excellent for Winter golf alright.
    I actually found the spin from them is not too bad, struck well it will certainly stop, might not zip back but hey thats probably more to do with me than the ball. They are not a rock like some of the cheaper balls and felt nicer to me than the NXTs.


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